This is the video I was looking for 👏🏻 even Ava don’t explain the differences well. The Evo looks better to my eyes and seems more practical other than having to build it on first use.
Brilliant video, I’m also from Northern Ireland! I would like to get your thoughts on what I should buy for car washing only. I can buy a p50 easy for £189 From b&q or a p60 master for £329 With loads of attachments. Is the p50 good enough or is it worth the extra for p60 master? The p60 is only 8 metre hose and the p50 easy is 12 metres. Just want the best experience of using a snow foam cannon to get the best foam and also wonder does it make rinsing the car by having stronger 145 bar pressure. Also I wonder is the p60 Master quieter! Thanks for your help
I am looking for 1 of the 2. After some research I also came across the maintenance videos that you need to do if you want to qualify for the 20 year warranty. The fact that the Evolution series is beautiful and everything is neatly concealed is also a disadvantage for maintenance. The Master series is much easier to open to get to the engine than the Evolution. This is one thing that is much forgotten and decisive for me.
believe it or not, the evolution is slightly easier to work on when you have it opened up. They are both identical inside, and when it comes back to reassembly, the Evolution model seems to slot back together slightly easier!
Very interesting video, I had the same question myself and this demonstrates it perfectly 👌🏼 all going to be personal preference isn't it, or weighing up NEEDS Vs WANTS 👍🏼
I’ve got the Smart P60 it’s a great machine just waiting for the brand new easy version to arrive both these machines look very good better storage than the smart series
I’ve got an evo p60, I’ve had three issues 1 the fuse in the plug has blown a couple of times and the aluminium handle for the hosereel vibrates like hell when you operate the machine also the water flow pulses when operating with the vario nozzle other than that a 12 metre hose instead of 8 would be better
Are you using an extension lead with your AVA? Very unusual for the P60 to blow a fuse Also that’s a very strange about the handle. Agreed about the hose length. I have recommended 8m for 60; 10m for 70 and 12m for the 80 series machines, but I guess that’s why extension hoses are sold
I plug it direct into socket with the cable fully extended, I used it today but it wouldn’t start so changed the fuse in the plug again and it was fine, my home electrics are fine as they have just been checked so I know it’s not that
Interesting as first time I read the fuse issue in P60 and seemed to be more the P70/80 as higher ampage. I was set on a P60 Evo but will be using an extension reel as my garage socket is right at the back of the garage.
@@P1Fanatic not sure what it was with the one I had maybe a Friday afternoon one, anyway Ava have now got it back to look at and I got my money back, I’m going to start using my yellow peril again until I’ve saved enough for a kranzle k7/122 ts, which to be fair is what I wanted but the price dictated me getting the Ava and certainly given the guarantee they offered
@@P1Fanatic I am quite sad about the whole scenario, on paper the p60 is perfect apart from the length of the hose, I know that my home electrics are ok having had them checked after some worm being carried out, im just wondering now if I got a Monday morning or Friday afternoon machine, either way a bad experience from your first experience doesn’t bode well, I have to say though I bought it from Slims detailing and they couldn’t have been more helpful, I was dealing with Sadie and she kept me informed of all the conversations between her and Ava, she offered me a replacement or a full refund which I took the later, im now saving for what I wanted in the first place but couldn’t justify then and that’s a Kranzle k7
I was looking at the Nilfisk E160 but now leaning towards a P60 Evo due to the stubby gun and longer warranty. I read that you have to service it every 5yrs with a service kit. Any idea what the cost of the kits are and what you have to swap as finding it hard to find this info? Presumably just a few seals if they expect you to DIY service.
I’ve heard around £45 and they supply you with a new pump which you fit your self and send them a couple of videos. They then extend your warranty for another 5 years after which you just repeat the process
@@P1Fanatic I’ve just ordered a Evo P60 today. I saw the information about buying a service pack (which includes a replacement pump) every 5 years on a YT video. Actually if you Google AVA service kits you’ll find them, I found one for £28 which when fitted gives you another 5 years.
This is the video I was looking for 👏🏻 even Ava don’t explain the differences well. The Evo looks better to my eyes and seems more practical other than having to build it on first use.
I'm glad that you found it useful!
Brilliant video, I’m also from Northern Ireland! I would like to get your thoughts on what I should buy for car washing only. I can buy a p50 easy for £189
From b&q or a p60 master for £329
With loads of attachments. Is the p50 good enough or is it worth the extra for p60 master? The p60 is only 8 metre hose and the p50 easy is 12 metres. Just want the best experience of using a snow foam cannon to get the best foam and also wonder does it make rinsing the car by having stronger 145 bar pressure. Also I wonder is the p60
Master quieter! Thanks for your help
I am looking for 1 of the 2. After some research I also came across the maintenance videos that you need to do if you want to qualify for the 20 year warranty. The fact that the Evolution series is beautiful and everything is neatly concealed is also a disadvantage for maintenance. The Master series is much easier to open to get to the engine than the Evolution. This is one thing that is much forgotten and decisive for me.
believe it or not, the evolution is slightly easier to work on when you have it opened up. They are both identical inside, and when it comes back to reassembly, the Evolution model seems to slot back together slightly easier!
Very interesting video, I had the same question myself and this demonstrates it perfectly 👌🏼 all going to be personal preference isn't it, or weighing up NEEDS Vs WANTS 👍🏼
I’ve got the Smart P60 it’s a great machine just waiting for the brand new easy version to arrive both these machines look very good better storage than the smart series
The smart machines are really great too, but the difference between the Smart/Go/Easy and the larger Master/Evolution is brushed motors vs brushless
Thanks a lot for this video
I'm glad you found it helpful!
Ava needs an adaptor to rotate the spray angle. Weird.
Quite easy buy the evolution, much better design
There are some definite advantages, but I am still using both on a regular basis
I’ve got an evo p60, I’ve had three issues 1 the fuse in the plug has blown a couple of times and the aluminium handle for the hosereel vibrates like hell when you operate the machine also the water flow pulses when operating with the vario nozzle other than that a 12 metre hose instead of 8 would be better
Are you using an extension lead with your AVA? Very unusual for the P60 to blow a fuse
Also that’s a very strange about the handle.
Agreed about the hose length. I have recommended 8m for 60; 10m for 70 and 12m for the 80 series machines, but I guess that’s why extension hoses are sold
I plug it direct into socket with the cable fully extended, I used it today but it wouldn’t start so changed the fuse in the plug again and it was fine, my home electrics are fine as they have just been checked so I know it’s not that
Interesting as first time I read the fuse issue in P60 and seemed to be more the P70/80 as higher ampage. I was set on a P60 Evo but will be using an extension reel as my garage socket is right at the back of the garage.
@@P1Fanatic not sure what it was with the one I had maybe a Friday afternoon one, anyway Ava have now got it back to look at and I got my money back, I’m going to start using my yellow peril again until I’ve saved enough for a kranzle k7/122 ts, which to be fair is what I wanted but the price dictated me getting the Ava and certainly given the guarantee they offered
@@P1Fanatic I am quite sad about the whole scenario, on paper the p60 is perfect apart from the length of the hose, I know that my home electrics are ok having had them checked after some worm being carried out, im just wondering now if I got a Monday morning or Friday afternoon machine, either way a bad experience from your first experience doesn’t bode well, I have to say though I bought it from Slims detailing and they couldn’t have been more helpful, I was dealing with Sadie and she kept me informed of all the conversations between her and Ava, she offered me a replacement or a full refund which I took the later, im now saving for what I wanted in the first place but couldn’t justify then and that’s a Kranzle k7
I was looking at the Nilfisk E160 but now leaning towards a P60 Evo due to the stubby gun and longer warranty. I read that you have to service it every 5yrs with a service kit. Any idea what the cost of the kits are and what you have to swap as finding it hard to find this info? Presumably just a few seals if they expect you to DIY service.
I’ve heard around £45 and they supply you with a new pump which you fit your self and send them a couple of videos. They then extend your warranty for another 5 years after which you just repeat the process
@@geo2472 where did you see this as it seems difficult information to find and I ended up buying a P60 Evo
@@P1Fanatic I’ve just ordered a Evo P60 today. I saw the information about buying a service pack (which includes a replacement pump) every 5 years on a YT video. Actually if you Google AVA service kits you’ll find them, I found one for £28 which when fitted gives you another 5 years.
The beauty about AVA is that they run the right to repair, which basically means that all repair parts are offered at cost price
What model is best for mobile valeting?
Whatever suits your budget really. If you need truly mobile the P40 is fine - not as powerful but a truly mobile unit
Evolution P70/P80 models have been OOS for months 😫
all back in stock UK wide
what is the height of the evolution one please
37 1/2 inches with nozzles in situ
Whereabouts are you? I'm interested in buying an Ava washer
I'm based in Downpatrick, Northern Ireland