Why DoorDash Customers Don’t Tip. What Orders Should You Accept & Decline
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- A Look back at the Conversation w/ DoorDash Diaries aka Bentley.
In this part of the Live we speak about what orders we accept, does DoorDash send new dashers better offers and what does No Tip No Trip do to dashers and customers.
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My biggest problem is why if you are platinum, still getting $2 dollars orders.
Every once in a while, DD gives you some trash orders also, which always get declined. Integrity and profit ability.
Lol man you think cause of your platinum status there not going to send you $2-3 orders? If you think you're only entitled to high paying orders because of platinum status you're dreaming. The reality is someone has to take out the trash like they say and the low paying offers have to get delivered with no exceptions. You think these companies are going to pay you $10 plus for every order they send you?😂
That’s why at 85-90% AR, I can afford to decline any non-profitable offers that appear. I also have my “way” of utilizing the algorithm to my benefit. Works 90% of the time for me .
@@bballah9969 know I don’t expect that, and unlike most I don’t deliver for a certain amount, but for what makes sense. Where I live the market is plentiful with decent prices, even with those $2 dollar orders, which I take if they make sense, because customers actually tip out of pocket here. Was just a thought for if you’re in an area, and you know there’s higher orders why send me a $2 dollar at the same time as a $8 dollar order. I’m saying separate the 2. And rather you like it or not I enjoy my platinum, because I worked for it.
@@JohnKendziorski lmao with an AR of 90% talking about profitability
My problem is it feels like we went from being the heros delivering food in 2020/2021 to being delivery servants/peasants here in 2024. Lower pay, acceptance rate manipulation, more and more customers not caring or tipping. Not helping us even get to their location if it's a hard location to get to or gate code
I had 2 orders yesterday, to an apartment complex, and neither customer listed their gate code. I had to pull aside and text, then call the customers. It took the first customer almost 3 minutes to get back to me. Some people are just plain rude!
Well. If I don't see a tip. I ain't accepting it 💯
Be honest with yourself. Truly. You are using analysis in the middle of the pandemic. Of course, folks are "heroes" or "essential workers" at one point. How naive did you have to be? Did you think the COVID-19 numbers were going to continue?
People aren’t tipping because people these days simply DGAF…. when are we going to call it like it is?
They get their food regardless because of the tier system or "it was on my way home."
This dude understands 😂 I’m a full time engineer and do gig apps for side money too. I don’t tip because I simply don’t care what the driver makes or doesn’t make. I only tip if it’s a hard task, like if I order 20 pizzas sure I’ll throw you 50 bucks. If all I order is some Taco Bell don’t expect a 20 dollar tip for a simple task.
When started in 2016, base pay was $5.50 every order
& they'll keep lowerin it, I'm sure
They need to explain that it is not a tip. It's a payment to the Dasher for service because the base pay is not satisfactory.
If you don’t like the upfront number you see when the offer comes thru, don’t take it period. only expect the number you accept.
Exactly and this is why DD is beating down they drivers. People complaining about freedom, instant pay and have the ability to accept or decline and order and this is a GIG that's actually not meant for a full time job. Most of these gigtubers destroyed it Bentley actually was the one that saw ahead that the situation we all in now was going to happens
I am of the opinion that Door Dash should pay $5.00 and the Customer should tip at least $5.00 or more if they wish, this would solve the low tip matter.
Here is the reason for the rewards system: if the orders don’t get accepted by a driver then DoorDash has to refund the customer and the restaurant throws the food out, so it’s costing someone money to have orders that never get picked up. They are trying to reduce those orders that never get picked up because it costs them money or causes them to loose contracts with the store. So if we all just keep cherry picking and taking the orders that make sense they will have to figure something else out. I’m only taking orders that make sense.
I been through this several times, I’ve delivered to the same person more than twice the first time no tip, because another dasher took the food even after they tipped them, and the next two times she tipped even more, because she saw everybody wasn’t the same. We have to understand in every market some dashers make it harder for the next dasher being shady. We also have to understand that just because we work for ourselves doesn’t give us a right to be crappy people and give horrible service. I’ll just say everyone that dash shouldn’t be dashers.
Bentley definitely works for door dash
DEFINITELY NOT if you watch his last live. He actually was ahead of his time because what's going on with DD now is because of gigtubers complaining about customers and that's why they over saturation it with illegals
@@Loveaintreal congrats you are the next contestant on dummy door dash... And you win what's behind door number one.. Pedro tell them what they've won.....Bentleys nutsss
@@roomshaka u got my attention. Now go back to watching an only fans video you paid for. What a LAME
He wants to be a doordash ambassador so bad 😂
I drive for pizza hut and don't have a choice which deliveries to take. I'm always respectful because I represent the company. Tipping is optional and I can get another job. But I totally understand the frustration when people don't tip and it's tempting to tell people off etc If it's not enough pay on a door dash order don't take it.
The problem is that DD doesn't compensate us more especially for a customer that's far away and tips $5
5?? Lmao I drive 10mi & get 2 😒
Platinum dasher here and I do t receive orders that are less than 2$ a mile.
That's why you do EBT
@@HussleandMotiv8
You will still get low paying offers and still have upside down offers regardless man. The system is rigged in there favor not yours remember that
@@HussleandMotiv8and then you drive back 20-30 minutes unpaid…. Lol
With the new tiers, we just have to be diligent as to what we refuse. I save those 3 out of 10 declines for the 2 and 3 dollar orders. When they start to come back to back, I turn off the app for at least 10 minutes, and focus on UE.
The only thing I want to say is Doordash needs to raise there base pay. Two dollars for a to delivery order is like a crime.
I always thank "good" tipers - they like feeling good about themselves so it incentivises them to keep tipping. I've gotten good tips and bragged on the customer to them and they even raised the tip!
Our outrage should be directed towards DD. For them to drop the guarantee from $5 to $2 means a substantial loss in pay to us. Of course, the mindset is if we don't like it we can leave. True, but the tiers "force" us to work as employees. That was never agreed on when we started this hustle. I look for a major class action suit against dd sometime soon.
Considering we are contractors, they can basically do what they want. They have no obligation to keep the minimum at anything. Am I annoyed with it being $2? Sure. Because it is them forcing us to deal with having to choose orders even more than we normally would. But acting like you agreed to a specific base amount when you first started? No, you didn't.
Yep we are no longer independent contractors and they need to pay us as such
@@justaguy859 Except we are still independent contractors pal. The hell you on about?
I told my daughter when you order from the gig apps to always figure the mileage they have to drive and the time it takes and how much it would cost you. When I order I always figured this way and way before gig apps.
I can’t deliver an order for free or that would cost me. I’m sure there are drivers that drive for fun and don’t mine paying to deliver. lol
In my area if you dont accept orders you won't make anything
Why can't we as dashers have a spot where we can set our prices such as 5 $ and up. Button. So we won't even get the orders under 5$. It sucks that we have to do 2$ orders. Waist our time and gas for 2$
Because that won't work for dd. They would never get a large portion of orders delivered. If you owned a company and the people that worked for you did the same, you would be out of business quickly.
Well maybe it wouldn't hurt door dash to meet those needs if customers can't. So DD would rather have thier workers quit. Bc why should we put miles and wear on our vehicles just to not make money. Not all of us live in huge cities.
Not having money is not an excuse to order DoorDash….
If I use Doordash I always tip $8 to $10 and order only within a couple of miles.
This is a problem with DoorDash and not respecting the drivers…Bentley saying just throw the order back and move on is just not fair for driver that is trying to make money. Also drivers might not have time to drive for 4-8 hours to overcome bad orders they see. Most drivers drive for and hour and or two. Why is it so hard for drivers to make a minimum of $25 dollars an hour actual time?
Bentleys dancing all around the real questions here , the questions is how in the heck are we suppose to keep our acceptance rates up with 2$ orders coming every day. He won’t answer he’s like a salesman’s hahahahha DoorDash has pimped Bentley
I don’t accept no tip orders! My AR is 17%. My minimum that I accept is $6.25 & it has to be no more than 2 miles. No tip No trip!
💯🔥🔥🔥
You must be in a large market. Where I am, if a person doesn't stay in Platinum they can't even work the app.
You can be platinum while only accepting good orders just have to know how to work the system😂 my ar is always 70-80% with taking no less then 5$ for 2 miles most the time I get way more
Ive been dashing for 5 weeks now and have only denied 2 total orders in the 1st week i started. I live in a moderately smaller community so noticing the affect those declines made on how often i was able to schedule shifts i started accepting every offer yet even to this day 240 deliveries later im still at a 90% CR. I honestly believe the CR continues to drop when you unassign from orders idk what any of these other dashers claim. Because i can't explain it how im not at a 98% otherwise!
I took a collect 46 dollar from the customer pizza delivery tonight thinking there would be a cash tip on top of the 2 dollar base. As soon as I got to the customers house, I get a message saying the customer paid with a credit card and don’t collect any cash. Ugh. 2 bucks. Tip bait?
Change that cash on hand to no cash on hand. Stop that real quick.
Hi 👋😀 Pedro, Bentley & All in Chat
I can’t make any profit from $2 even if I deliver the food just one mile !
My car gets 30 miles to the gallon, my point is two dollars is not enough to even get out of the car for, even for a 1 mile trip
U do u dude…. I earn in excess of $1k every week & it’s only a passive income for me. Don’t judge me, we all DD in our own way.
$2 ain’t worth me starting my car, those ppls food can rot
Hey Guys, Thanks for taking time to share thoughts and experiences Hope you had a great holiday weekend.
Commenting about showing love to new drivers. My wife started a few months ago and the first five orders she received were trash. DD did not start her out in the Top AR. she finished her first day with like a 13 AR. When I started a while back They started me out as a Top Dasher for the first month. After the first month the orders started slacking. Of course I had watched several videos on accepting orders so I knew what to expect and do.
Drivers have got to use good judgement on which orders to take if they are going to continue delivering. My minimum is $5 for 2.5 miles or less. From there it goes up.
As far as tips go: Not really a consideration. Either the order pays well enough for the miles and order size or it does not. If The customer wants to add more it is always appreciated. If they don't; ok, I knew what it paid when it was accepted.
Safe Deliveries Everyone!
🎉They Need To Bring Back the Top Dasher Program Because This Pilot Program Sucks
No tip equals no trip. If the offer is insulting to my car or services, instant decline. I’m not going to change my approach to fulfill Doordash’s agenda.
If someone don’t tip they aren’t going to tip when they got extra, what hes saying sounds good in theory but isn’t realistic. I tip great everytime and if I don’t got it then I don’t go out to eat or use any delivery services..
I hit tip criteria in boston there IA no offers a.d are all low but when your below criteria you get better offers. Most non tippers om gh now
"clowns"? Some folks are born poverty minded...it's not always on purpose that it's a "no tip"
Then they shudnt uze DD
Poverty minded? Anybody with a poverty mind like you say would think door dash is bullshit.
Poverty minded you say? Far from it my friend, if you're ordering from a food delivery app you are far from being broke and living in poverty. It's just a lame excuse to not tip and appreciate the service someone is offering you and being a 🤡
Sounds like you are giving silly reasons not too tip and we don't care.
Poverty minded people shouldn't order food delivery...It is not a right its a luxury
I might do $4 for a mile or two depending on how difficult it is to get to food. McDonald's when the drive-thru is all jacked up no. 4 mi for $4? No
It really bothers me to take alow tip to deliver it to a mansion. Like wow 2.00 tip and live in a mansion.
Apparently DD corporate office coder isn't making sense... similar basepay amounts for similar orders doesn't add up regardless of the customer tip...
My car uses .32 cents per mile, and I am not driving a fuel economic vehicle, so $2 for 1 mile is good for me. Some of you with 30+ mile per gallon vehicles need to re-examine your miles to money mentality.
Starting your car engine 3 times and driving 1 mile for $2 is retarded at best
If you’re willing to work for $2 that’s one reason this app is in the piss poor shape it’s in.
Can someone tell me what is going on with scheduling? I can never get on the schedule even though I have gold status which gives you 6 days in advance. I used to be able to schedule at 3pm every day, but I no longer see my city in the list at 3pm. Did they switch up the time for dashers for the early schedule? Thanks in advance. I have called dasher support and we all know they do not help. I have uninstalled the app, changed password and still hard as hell to schedule.
Bentley was actually ahead of his time..All these gigtubers that complanined about customers is the reason why DD let it oversaturate with illegal accounts people was super ungrateful you cannot disrespect the customers because thats still money to grab if needed..And now look everubody saying earn by time is trash is damn near forced to use it now
He works for DoorDash
@@justaguy859 no I think he loved it because of the freedom and in the Charlotte market it was great but if you watch his LAST live he is actually standing up and wanting to do something about this over saturation and what's going on. Most Americans are so spoiled they lack discernment and don't see what's coming.
@@Loveaintreal no most just want to be paid a fair wage from the company and not all the stupid AR games if we are still considered independent contractors
@@justaguy859 that's not happening ever they rather lower the wage and pay a new Dasher 1200 for completing a certain amount of deliveries we got to stop treating these gigs like a real job
Bentley is a tap dancer..he dances around the question
He works for DoorDash .
@@TheBeaver50 absolutely
@@roomshaka I have over 10,000 doordashes , work and live in the same state as Bentley , within 40 miles . I have followed Bentley for years . The facts are he’s taught me a lot in the early days , inspired me to be better but , he sold out a long time ago. he still , at times , spouts facts but it’s always laced with that “I’m secretly getting paid to say certain things“ kinda mumbo jumbo . I stopped watching him a long time ago. The only reason I’m here is because of Pedro and it looks like Pedro is going the same route.
Nobody should be faced with having to take a 2$ or 3$ orders and that affecting your rating if you don’t accept those . It’s such a ridiculous notion that any company would even ask someone to to take those orders. base pay has dropped year after year and we are more than ever as drivers getting hit with 3$ orders going 5 and 10 miles . the gig economy as a whole , not just DoorDash , isn’t nearly as profitable as it was. I’ll always be proud of the days when I worked my butt off in the early days for these gig apps , specifically DoorDash and got so much of my debt paid down but I’m happy knowing I don’t have to depend on the gig economy to do that in present day. It’s not possible now.
The algorithm is one game after another now and it’s aimed at trying to get the drivers to take low ball , no tip offers that are not in the least bit profitable . From the drivers standpoint the economy plays a big part in this too as the customers are not tipping like they used to.
We ain’t getting paid like we used to from the customers and from these companies.
@@TheBeaver50 And you've never seen Bentley doing a delivery
@@TheBeaver50 but I agree with you.100 percent..that I will say
If order 3.50 1 mile why waste my gas or brake
How different things are since this video was made. Like the $6.25 order, and your 7000 deliveries.
They should have easy food for the kids to heat up in a microwave instead of ordering Wendy's. I would never use my last bit of money ordering out food.
You just look at previous delivery pictures and these dashers are just careless
Tbh, I'm less upset wit customers than i am wit DD. THEY should b tha 1s payin us 4 all tha miles we drive
Your dreaming that will never happen from a business and strategic point of view doesn't make sense to do that
Yeah I don't think we are going to win and end up making more money attacking non-tippers. This isn't going to change them into tippers. You might be able to change the minds of some of them if you speak to them respectfully over time - but calling them trash, losers and putting that out there may even causes good tippers to revolt because they are all part of the "Customer Club" vs the "Dasher Club" and feel like they to are being attacked (because they are in that same "customer club" by what they may percieve as entitled drivers.
Taking the trash will also not incentivise non tippers to tip - because we are telling them they don't need to.
This dude is talking in circles... If you've got no self-worth like this dude, you should take every order that's not worth your time...🤡🤡#NOTIPNOTRIP!
There is no money for dashers get you a 9-5
100 compleciones an 90 Accepted and customer 4.6 that is ok guy ?
Good metrics and your still getting $2-3 orders unfortunately
You are a slave on the plantation with those numbers. Stop taking $2 and $3 orders. It hurts us all.
Mine is just like yours exact same numbers that's good
I feel you my nifga
The harsh reality is the cherry picker strategy is what ruined these apps and the gig companies lnow this very well
What? 😭😭 please xplain that 1
This is the dumbest remark I have ever read
Exactly, the cherry picker strategy did absolutely ruin the buisness. DOORASS CHERRY PICKS PARTS OF A CONTRACTOR AGREEMENT THEY LIKE THEN TREAT EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THE WORST POSSIBLE W-2 THAT EVER EXISTED! YOU ARE CORRECT. RUINED THE BUISNESS. NOW THEY'LL PAY IN COURT TO UNCLE SAM!!!
@@RD-ce6bb
Oh really my comment is the dumbest comment you ever heard? Your entitled to your opinion care to elaborate and back up your claim as to why it is instead of a single sentence reply that shows you have no valid point? The truth is all these geniuses jumped online and disclosed through social media the strategy they use and how to beat the system. Well that clearly failed and failed miserably, you don't think these companies have employees going through social media and reading all the tips and tricks to beat their system which in turn affects their bottom line which is monetary gain just like any other company.
Wrong companies lower base pay and people proudly ordering food and not tipping is a thing.In my area dashers pick up every order so cherry picking ruining it is foolish thinking.
This dudes a single mom?
Door dash diaries only dashes in prime markets. It's easy to talk down to no tip no trip dashers. Homie acts like an employee for DD lol gtfoh
Santiagoooo
First
DoorDash dairie Bentley act like a DoorDash employee hahahaha. I think he is.
Let’s looks at the facts …..DoorDash has lowered to base pay to , two measly dollars and never has bonuses any longer
I have 10,000+ DoorDash deliveries and I’m looking to do other things. The money isnt there any more people .
Facts 💯 gig work is a losing proposition I don't care what anybody says and it has nothing to do with adapting like Pedro says all the time. Or maybe he means it's time to adapt and accept those high paying $2-3 orders dashers love and crave get da you know what outta here! 😂
DD Diaries doesn’t dash 😂 he’s so full of it
How many times gonna talk about the same shit over and over this gig is not that deep bruh so repetitive its ridiculous
@@mblaqminoz as many times as I feel. Get a real job; you’re mad because you’ve never amounted to anything lmao. What are you going to do about it lil dude.
No he doesn't . he's full of it
@@parisbaxter4996 I sense a lot of frustration and pent up aggression in you. Just because someone commented in a way that's different from you? You need to act better than that. We are ALL trying to figure this stuff out. Plus, many people only do dd as a part time gig.
@@parisbaxter4996 im talking about him
People who cherry pick still shouldn’t receive shit offers now beacuse of priority beacuse that is wat is going on especially people who were in the LOP program before just got destroyed beacuse they no longer see these offers
You're wrong people who cherry pick will still receive low paying offers and it's a proven fact. It doesn't matter if you're a platinum, gold, silver Dasher you will still get low paying offers that's just the way it is and that will never change. Do you actually think DD or UE is going to reward a cherry picker that purposely declines low paying offers consistently? No absolutely not and they shouldn't deserve high paying orders. So basically what you're saying is dashers with high AR's 80% or higher should get a mix of low paying and high paying offers and dashers with AR's that are 50% or less should only get high paying offers? If you think this is the way this system works your delusional sorry
@@bballah9969 that’s not wat I ment wat ment was orders hardly go up anymore people with low AR don’t see those orders with low miles that pay 15$ 20$ 10$ all there getting is low pay offers consistently now also I was In the large order program with low was still getting those orders now they have disappeared how is that fair tell me ? Not saying good all the time but coming from someone with 7k delivery I know when things change and when there up too there sneaky shit come on man
@@bballah9969 just saying dasher rewards isn’t rewards if we already had it smh worst pilot program known to man brotha
@@3svtcobra
My friend of course your not going to get high paying offers with a low AR that's why DD came out with this marketing scam of platinum, gold, silver Dasher so people think "Hey if I accept any or low paying offers I will eventually be rewarded with higher paying offers because I have an high AR" and you and I both know this is not true. I'm a platinum Dasher 80% AR was once at 97% to have a cushion to decline low offers and I still get $2-3 offers. They will continue to send out low offers no matter what level Dasher you are that's just the reality of it
It's what they pay usually too low and your tip is being picked in the process . Dollar a mile rule should be mandatory . No job less than 5$ .Stop the steal! Door dash doesn't respect what u do for them never mind non tippers someone else will always make up for it.Gig economy companies are theives that's the evolution unfortunately.The pay was much better no promotions now just plenty of tip picking 😮😮😮
CLT you just wasting people's time. If you into charity work just say so?
The issue with this logic is your also hindering the fact that you could be selling the service to some that could potentially be a 20 dollar tipper later, and instead promoting the business model further, ya DD could up the base pay, but there is that "it take money to make money" mindset too. The people out there doing that no tip no trip shit has probably never canvas a brand thru other jobs. I have even delivered phone books while I was in the service, I just remember delivering news papers as a kid.
I love his point on how people tip based off their last door dash driver interaction
That argument wood only stand if U dealin wit tha same driver
So you like the idea of a customer not tipping you of your A1 service because the previous driver did a shitty job?
@UltraInstinct-yn1ft u don't get it he's saying if they got a good expierence last time they are more likely to tip this time aka your time.
@Savagedude11 smh no of course not I'm saying he makes a very valid point on how alot of people (especially casual or new customers) often tip based on if their last experience was good or bad since it's a pre tip.
@@Savagedude11 exactly right. Just like if you know a restaurant has terrible ratings yet you go to the restaurant and get the same experience. Would you then leave a good review?