We owned a tractor dealership for 30 years and I have learned that people usually don't get rid of tractors until they are a problem. That being said the people getting rid of them more likely than not will lie about the condition.
Lots of people are quick to bag on you for some of the things you did during the purchase of this machine and and being a little surprised of the condition when you received it.... but it takes more of a man to show and admit what he did wrong, what went wrong, and what has been spent on it to get it in perfect working order. Thanks for sharing your advice and experience!
+Drew w it’s easy to armchair quarterback, we all do it myself included. I expected a lot of people to do that on this video and it’s okay. The Deere buying video should be up this week and I definitely learned from my mistakes.
@@GuyinWY really appreciate the video and suggestions. Never have bought site unseen, but have been thinking about it. Most things around here in SW Colorado are "gold" plated and not a lot of choices. Looking for a bigger tractor as I feel like like I'm overworking my older Kubota L4200.
The real moral of this story is "if you're going to buy a tractor sight-unseen, never have the seller arrange for the dealer to look it over. call the dealer yourself." People really are scumbags.
We’ve bought a couple sight unseen, we’d never buy another tractor with a loader on it like that but straight tractor is fairly safe. We usually speak with the previous owner as well, rather than just the salesman.
Sir, you are lucky you ever received the tractor. Never ever pay w/ a wire transfer, there are so many ways you can be totally scammed. #2. Never believe a seller 100 percent, have your own man go out and inspect the tractor, car ect... I have purchased several tractors and small dozers on line and have been screwed a few times due to me not doing my job correctly. I always send a certified check or money orders, never wire transfer.
I knew some folks who bought a brand new Cadillac( from the dealer) and a test drive. That didn't make it home in it. The point is that there are no guarantees with anything. So gald that you are sharing your experiences with us and to those of you out there that say "i won't have ...." . It's easy to hind sight someone else; and not come out and own up to your oops. Thanks for your videos
I'm sorry to hear that you had that problem. That makes me wonder who the dealer was, as I worked for someone in that state who did those kinds of things years ago. That is part of the reason why I left his employ, because I heard him talking over these kinds of plots with his mechanic in the shop next to where I was working, and didn't want to be party to it.
Yeah we bought several things sight un-seen as well with pretty mixed results. We picked up a JD 6420 awhile ago, but first we had our dealership run serial number checks and they were able to tell us the service records of it. It was well cared for and still one of my favorite tractors. Then we picked up a grain truck and a planter that works great.
Here is the way I see it. Now you have a Tractor that YOU have gone thru and know well what you have so that is the bright side and I myself could live with that. I have looked at things in person and bought them that I have had to go thru and repair and yes it bothers me but I can't take back a mistake and after all repairs are done I don't let it bother me anymore. Live and Learn or NOT.
I would of called the dealer my self and had them go and look at it ! but you cant trust all dealer too ! when i go my Kioti it was used and the salesman said it had been all gone over and the shop said it was good to go ! NOT got home and found out the air filter was dirty and found out it had not been gone over so we had to do it ! not we paid for ! take care and have a great week ! Curt :-)
i would never buy something on line. i would think it is better buying something used from a tractor dealer. yea you might pay more, but at least you see and feel the tractor, and might have some type of warranty on it. i don't know if you follow a guy on youtube called onelonleyfarmer, but he has some big tractors that he bought from the UK. he traveled there for a work vacation. in other words he took some time off, went to the UK just to find some tractors, bought what he liked, and had them shipped back to the states. good luck in the future, and watch some of WES videos on buying use equipment. he in very informative about it
+cuznjo1 I agree, but if you watch the video I did on cost of this machine I discuss the fact that I could not find a tractor like this in my price range at any dealer within several hours drive. The closest was 10 hours away and $10,000 more than I paid for this one.
funny you would mention wes, him and blake are the two polar opposites. wes is an angry, hate-filled bumpkin who constantly spews toxic vitriol on his videos. blake is calm, well spoken and level-headed. wes's vids are good for a laugh though, it's funny when wes throws a temper tantrum and his voice goes high pitched. just recently he thought he could play tire repairman and it exploded almost killing his son. then he blamed it on lyme disease lol
i happen to really like wes, it might be because i think like he does. like he said, he didn't wait long enough for the patch to cool. and when the tire did pop, it was on the inside of the tire, and no where near his son tim.
Hi Guy in WY, The Diff-lock light on the dash is connected to a pressure switch on low pressure manifold on the left side of the transmission, just in front of the rear axel. It is a common fault that the pressure switch starts falling after some time. There is a similar switch on the manifold for the MFWD dash light, but one is NO and the other is NC so you can’t just switch them around. It can of cause be the wires for the switches.
Guy in WY. Your welcome, Thinking about it I might be wrong on the location of the manifold, as it depends on the transmission type. But the “system” is the same. The pressure switch should be close to the solenoid regardless.
Recently bought a semi and a small tractor, new Holland ts110 sight unseen. The semi, a Freightliner 1994 fld120 with a c12 engine. We had an independent insepection and were very happy with what we purchased. The ts110 we bought after a brief phone call with the auction company, rebel auction out of geogria. I have only ran the tractor a few hours but it seems every thing is as they said other than a leaky seal on the front right hub. I will always have a. Sneaky suspicion about this transaction because it took s a few hours to buy without inspection at what might turn out to be a good deal. Won't know until it fails or lasts forever if we did ok.
Thanks for your honesty I subscribe for that reason. Lesson is send the Ford dealership over without the seller knowing your doing it. Bought a pickup only with a tonne of pictures best thing I ever did. Not experience so only bought low mileage truck
Thanks, you make some very good suggestions when buying a machine online. Probably your biggest mistake is not contacting a dealer or independent mechanic directly to inspect the tractor. It is costly, but since he is paid by you his obligation is to you. If you didn't have the know-how to do the repairs the finances wouldn't have worked out so well for you. A few years ago I bought a logging machine through an equipment broker. Things worked out well and everything was as claimed. The broker said his goal was to have repeat customers so he was careful to represent the machines as honestly as he could. I later used him to sell a machine because I was very happy with his service.
when my old job sold machines the boss had us do a walk around video start off on the serial of the machine and do a close up walk aroumd with the machine running engine bay walkways cab ect
Compliments to you on taking your experience incredibly well. It's worth mentioning that if you are too scared to do anything, you never learn and grow from experience. In order to win some, you will likely lose some on the journey. In order to experience either, you have to become a player and get in the game. Just realize there will be challenges, and keep on looking forward. You appear to have done a very respectable job keeping a real view of past decisions are made, and what you can control is what is in front of you into the future. It's not all bad, experience contributes to knowledge. To get there - you have to become a participant.
Hi Great video I bought a NEW front end loader sight unseen from the dealer asked heaps of questions like engine brand trans brand diff and final drives it was new so condition should be new so i thought spent 60 thousand had a load finder to bring the machine 4000 km , but when it got here it had been on a trailer as a shared load , the trailer was parked on the side of the road for 5 days , no batterys or fuel in it smashed windows as well the driver blew 2 tyres on his trailer and charged me for them as extras . The loader was a pile of junk it overheated with in 30 min of operation , air con not working trans had a horrible noise in it and it did not have zf diffs and trans like i was told it had non standard gearbox and diffs . I rang the dealer they denided ever telling me about diffs or gearbox they said every thing was checked before it left and it worked fine . 3 years later we have rebuilt the transmission and cooling system but the machine is basicly unusable as it has a heap of hyd problems like fading steering , brakes and lift , now the oil pressure wont go above 10 psi and its done 247 hours from new
You should name the seller. Always get a walk around video of all the components. A written letter of all the known faults. A third party paid by you to verify the equipment's usability and faults also sent to you direct. I am glad you came out sort of Ok on the deal. We almost bought a large articulated loaded off Government Liquidation. They gave a half around video of the loader and said it was in working order. We took a trip to see it. On the other side of the equipment water was spewing out of the block under compression and missing. They were hiding that fact. They had a smaller loader that ran OK. We decided to bid on that one. Every time we bid the same guy would counter bid. We finally stopped when the bid was way high. So you would think it was sold. Not so! Two months later it was up for bids again. So even the government sites are rigged. Buyer beware!
Hi, you surprise me ,here in the UK we have professional independent agri inspectors that charge a very reasonable fee, and will give a hand written detailed in depth report minimum( 8hrs ) they will even report down to trim and paintwork discrepancies ,any obvious recent repairs and the quality of work carried out, essential and desireable repairs needed etc etc.and will commit there opinions honestly .However they will never recommend you to purchase the item,but to make your own mind up on their very thorough report .I have purchased 4 Tractors with my pop like this,and never been dissatisfied. Money very well spent in my humble opinion. Regards from an old Limey b from across the pond.
Without watching the next video Im sure a major difference between to 2 purchases is the moral and ethical character of the person you purchased from. One was and one was not.
I drove around to a few dealers and inspected and drove what I was interested in. I was able to check engine oil , tires , hydraulics. I ended up with a 20 year old tractor with 4oo hours on it. I horsetraded the dealer into new rear rims. I have been very happy with it and they delivered it free. I would have been anxious about buying it on the net
We got burned buying a piece of equipment sort of like this. Major difference was that I had pics. Other than that similar. Talked to the owner told me a bunch of stuff that was partially true. Problem was the machine was 4wd and the front pinion was stripped. We didn't find that out until we got the machine and I tried to drive it somewhere the needed 4wd and the front axle didn't do anything. I ended up putting a new front end under the machine and fixed all the issues and then sold it. That was the first time we bought something of that price (8,500+1500 delivery) and I will not do it again. Everyone makes mistakes the trick is to learn from them.
Next time you want a tractor get ahold of dishman equipment from Muskogee Oklahoma hes honest and will be very truthfully about any piece of equipment in his lot
As for the paint all our older new Hollands do that on the hoods from the engine heat the paint seems super thin and chips and peels after a couple thousand hours the newer ones haven't done it but most of our older ones have
Great video, thanks for taking the time to share your experience that will benefit hundred's of people to not buy equipment from someone that take people for a ride
No matter how cautious you are, how man questions you ask, however many pictures or videos you see site unseen is sill site unseen. Within minutes of seeing something in person you have more of a feel for it than anybody can tell you. Buyers/sellers may have different perspectives on an item. The seller that sold you the New Holland may have been used to 10-20 year old equipment and To him it may have been a great tractor. If your used to running new stuff and then try to describe this old tractor you will have a different feel/eye for it.
Thank you for posting videos with pointers like this, and for sharing the real numbers involved. Financials are a taboo subject, yet, for aspiring farmers, business owners, etc. knowing the numbers is essential. I have a few honest questions for you on your New Holland purchase:1. Was it not feasible to travel to Maryland to see the tractor in person?2. For purchasing, could you have obtained a loan and then, if the debt bothered you, just paid off the principle with the cash on hand? Any reason for not doing this (perhaps the credit inquiry would be why)?3. On the hydraulics, would you be concerned about the pump life being shortened by the contaminated fluid? And why would the fluid be contaminated in the first place?4. I have heard that a manufacturer's expected engine life can be anywhere from 6,000 to 10,000 hours. What about for a gear transmission? How much life do you expect from it?Thanks again!!!
Good video, thank you Guy. Well, it stands to reason why the seller wouldn't take your calls after the tractor was in your possession. He just did what he had to do(from making up stories to telling partial truths) to get the tractor off of his lot and into someone else's hands, because he knew it had more problems than he was telling. To me, the unanswered calls is nothing more than him admitting that he lied to you. The story he gave of him having New Holland doing a check on it like you asked for was the topper in my opinion. Him doing that puts a very negative light on New Holland and drags their reputation through the mud, when it wasn't true from the start.
Yes, I knew he didn't buy it from New Holland, I just wasn't sure about the seller being a private seller though. even though, his not returning Guy's calls tell a lot about the seller. Thanks for your reply.
You need a dope slap.. If you want an equipment evaluation. You call and pay the dealer. They have a reputation to protect and would have given you a inspection report for $0-$750 cost. I the guy is up to no good he would hesitate on an independent inspection. If the dealer had a comparable unit for a better price they might have offered you a better machine for the same money and thrown in delivery to the local dealer.
Two things, you should have hired the dealer or a competent person to look at it and report directly to you. You should have asked for maintenance records.
The diff lock light stays on in my TS100A, mechanic told me it was something shorting out which causes the light to come on, he said first clean the trailer lights plug (the thing you plug into your trailer to get the brakes, hazards etc lights to work) because that is a common cause of the light staying on but I haven't done it yet so I don't know if it will work or not.
Hope you don't mind but I have shared your video to some people on some forums that were looking at buying a tractor over the web. And hoolfuly you will get a few more subs out of it. . Love the channel
There is a brake fluid sensor on those tractors. It's in the cap of the fluid reservoir. There is a button on top of the cap you can press to test the light in the dash.
Guy in WY. That might be why the light is on. Sounds like someone done away with the correct cap. The wires may be hanging there somewhere. If you have an owners manual you can look and see if that really is the brake fluid light that is staying on. I have had the brake fluid light come on on my 6030 before and it was just a tad low of fluid. New Holland has been using that brake fluid warning system since back in the early 90's.
Guy in WY. Oh if you have to add brake fluid it takes a special mineral based oil, not DOT brake fluid, you can get it from a NH dealer. The reservoir is on the right side of the firewall, raise the hood all the way up to see it.
+DLH Farms I had read about the mineral oil, but I still can’t find a sensor or any wiring that looks like it should go to a sensor. My light on the dash was caused by a problem with the water in fuel sensor, and went away when I fixed that.
When you get a good deal on the Brooklyn bridge you may want to have someone, preferably not someone from your church, go over and take a look at the rivets.
Great video. You can make mistakes standing next to a tractor at an auction too. If you do it again I would contact a dealer yourself and have them go look at it. They could have done everything you mentioned in an hour or less. It may have been money well spent. Good think you are able to fix the problems yourself.
I'm not sure the money you might have saved by getting a used tractor from the other side of the country is worth not seeing it in person. In fact I believe paying a little more for a local tractor is worth it. Did you get such a great price that it covered the shipping cost plus the thousands you spent on repairs?
I would usually agree. However, during the first year after getting a vehicle with an unknown maintenance history from someone you will probably not see again, it's a better deal.
Maybe the word "extended" is tripping us up. I'm recommending buying after market maintenance insurance. The plans covering cars are common enough to hear the ads on the radio. There are other plans covering many other types of equipment.
Typically such plans require a check up ahead of time. You can't blow an engine and then expect them to replace it for a few bucks a month. This isn't Obama Care!
it costed me $900 to have my tractor shipped to my place. the tractor was only 3 hrs south from here. i seen it on tractorhouse so i drove down there & took it for a test drive & fell in love with it.. so now its at my farm.. paid $8k for the tractor..
Thats why u buy realy cheap used equiplment.. not for 20-30k but for 10k and les. Ofcourse u still need to look for details and stuf.. but ull have to invest in most of used equipment.
here in Austria we look at nearly evrything we are buying directly so we visit the seller and look at evrything at the machine and let it start and also drive it so the Chance of making and bad buy is very low
I like the hell out of you after watching this. I think you're a little too trusting. Everybody has got to have a fault - the only Perfect Man ever lived got crucified. But I take a couple goons and a shit-ton of cash with me when I go to buy stuff. I count out bout half what the guy is asking for right in front of him - and then start looking at the machine. Pick it apart, stuff the money back in my pocket a couple times and get in the truck to leave it. I finally find out exactly what's the least he would possibly take for it. Then judging by the unit's condition I decide. Hey it works for me - but then again I like 70s and 80s tractors.
Hi I'm not buying equipment right now, but for fun I look round to see what guys are selling and what it's making. There are some real interesting video's linked to TH-cam from E bay. I was watching some for Case construction equipment the other day. Loads of it had real nice paint on things like old 580 TLB's but when the guys demonstrating it you can see the thousands of hours wear in everything, from knowing what to watch closely . To be honest from that i'd not waste my time going to look at stuff there. My whole impression of that company is they buy for $1000 or 2, spend a $1000 on paint and try find a sucker for $7500 or best offer. Some of the guys on Camera operating this stuff for them, don't have a clue either and make the equipment look bad to L.O.L . That tractors pretty well what I figured from my experience fixing for farms and call a typical beat up feedlot(livestock) tractor here in Canada. I'm with your thinking though if you get it fixed and don't spend much more, it should be ok for what you want as a stop gap for a few years. Then move it on again for a nicer one if financial and machine opportunity arise at the right times . I'm liking your video's you get what you see not some" dishonest look good acting" Thanks for sharing what you do in the real world out here of farming/repairs.
Thanks super. I could edit this stuff to make myself look like a genius, but I wanted to show what it's really like when you're a small outfit trying to grow.
Thank you, your honesty is admirable and it's also good advice. This is something I had considered doing myself but will not now due to what happened to you. It would be nice if you named the equipment seller / dealer so people know and at the worst condition they can refute any claims made. That's fair. I have several dealers in my immediate area and even more all within a 25 mile radius so I think I will get a hands on with whatever I buy...., most likely a John Deere, if not then a New Holland (Ford) just for the quality of machine. Sorry you had a tough time with this one, some people are only out for the money and will lie all day long to make a buck. I spend so much time researching this stuff online my wife things I'm living in another world these days (hahaha) maybe I am but better to learn than to get burned. Again - Thanks :)
Hi Guy in WY. docs.google.com/presentation/d/131y-BGXzecWmUQ-iX48MaWIGRIH9xcB11csi6qw0Ybk/edit?usp=sharing Here is a link of the ranch land up in the Grande Prairie area. The branding pen was once a barley and wheat field that I used to cultivate, plant and harvest as a teen. The ranches belong to my sister's family and my nephew. They have a cattle lease along a wild river and feed the cattle at home in the winter. The bison are on a big ranch along another river. My nephew, his dad and few friends run a one week horse camp on that bison ranch. You will see me stirring oatmeal for the camp kids and wranglers in the morning. The grizzly is just to show you what they can get to be when they are feeding on cattle. It was shot about 50 miles from home. Of course I have been off the farm for 35 years now, teaching in CT and living along the shore of Long Island Sound. Now I am waiting to get into the condo on the ocean in Fort Lauderdale. But my heart is still back home on the prairie land that I once farmed with my dad.It was my grandpa's homestead from the 1920's.
spending nearly $30k on a machine, it would have been well worth it to spend whatever to go look at the machine. flight, hotel and rental car would have been well worth the cost
I wish seller could tell FULL truth but then seller sound a poor maintainer. But least you fix problems, I same problem with truck do see that dealer at dealership. NO he burnt me n other customers. I believe their r people out there for quick buck n don’t care what problems they past on. I fix my truck n got very go use, it wasn’t best truck I have had but least it for itself.
YOU should have called the new holland dealership YOURSELF!!! and had them send a tech over to look at it. i work for a cat dealership ( 13 years now) and we do inspections for out of states sellers ALL THE TIME! i send the buyer a full 10 page report on system pressures and oil sample results and AT LEAST 20 pictures - usually of problem areas.... sorry buddy - its on you! dad always said - if its to good to be true - IT IS !!!!
Here’s the best way, or my way, call and get your best idea, then tell them you’re going to go see it and schedule the dealer to be there at the same time, and spend the money and time, if you won’t spend the money and time, expect to spend it later, trust no one
I think I'd have wanted to talk to the NH dealer or mechanic that was supposed to have examined the tractor, not just take the seller's word for it that it was examined.
I would consider you are very lucky you got the machine in the first place after sending 28 grand sight unseen...Let the buyer beware...As honest as you are, you expected the guy selling you the tractor to be....but he was in it to sell it for as much as he could get out of it....If you were to mention his name it would appear sour grapes....lesson learned...don't buy sight unseen!
I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but you did pretty much everything wrong. 1) A wire transfer? You knew better than that. At the very least send a cashier's check with the driver. 2) Did you do a lien search? How do you know if he had it financed? If he did, the lender can come and get it even if you paid for it. 3) You wanted to buy it WAY too much. Sometimes you have to jump on a deal, if you do, fly out and buy it, then store it at an equipment dealer until you pick it up. 4) Picking a price "somewhere in the middle" when deciding on transport is just as safe as buying a piece of machinery for a price somewhere in the middle. Don't do it. Do your homework. It's not hard to find a broker with a good reputation and insurance. Look on Ebay. You can get some GREAT deals if a trucker hasn't got a load for his trip back. 5) If you're going to have the machine inspected by a dealer, YOU MAKE THE CALL and call a dealer that isn't the one that's closest to him. Ask them if they know the guy. If they do, maybe they'll share some info on him, but if they say he's a good ol boy, call another dealer to do the inspection. They may say he's good because the owner is related, or is going to sell the guy a new tractor once he sells the tractor to you. 6) It's fine to look at the oil and fluids, but it's also easy for him to change them before he takes the pictures. Have the seller take pictures of every surface of the tractor (it's not that hard), including underneath and running. Ask for pictures (they're much easier to look at up close) except for a video of the machine running and operating, including the gauges. 7) It's going to sound strange, but BUY FROM A DEALER if you can. They'll make some really good deals if they've had a machine that they don't want on the lot. For instance a deere dealer won't want a Kubota on the lot, etc. When you're looking at prices, and you find a machine that looks like a decent price, you'd be surprised how much some of them will drop their price just to sell it. Your biggest job is to make phone calls. You can find good deals within 500 miles of you if you actually know what a piece of machinery is worth. 8) If you're actually trusting someone on a long distance sale, GOOD LUCK, but you will lose a LOT of money. ALWAYS inspect a machine yourself if you can. 9) Buy closer to home and go get it yourself. If you had, you would have found one that was the same price when you got done shipping it, fixing it, and paying for the high hours. 10) If you don't have a truck big enough to transport tractors, start buying and selling skid steers. I'm retired now, but I used to buy them, fix them, paint them and put on new decals. I sold more than 80 of them (half on Ebay) another 8 or so mini excavators, and another 20 to 25 low HP tractors/loaders like Kubotas, New Holland, Deere and a couple of other imports over a 4 year period. It was hard work and a lot of driving, but it got me through after I lost my job. If you're looking to make a buck, I'd suggest that you try smaller stuff. Oh, and don't buy machines with high hours. They're more likely to have hidden problems that you get stuck with, and the guy that buys it from you isn't going to be happy if he has a major failure 10 hours after he gets it home. Best wishes and BE CAREFUL.
We owned a tractor dealership for 30 years and I have learned that people usually don't get rid of tractors until they are a problem. That being said the people getting rid of them more likely than not will lie about the condition.
Lots of people are quick to bag on you for some of the things you did during the purchase of this machine and and being a little surprised of the condition when you received it.... but it takes more of a man to show and admit what he did wrong, what went wrong, and what has been spent on it to get it in perfect working order. Thanks for sharing your advice and experience!
+Drew w it’s easy to armchair quarterback, we all do it myself included. I expected a lot of people to do that on this video and it’s okay. The Deere buying video should be up this week and I definitely learned from my mistakes.
@@GuyinWY really appreciate the video and suggestions. Never have bought site unseen, but have been thinking about it. Most things around here in SW Colorado are "gold" plated and not a lot of choices. Looking for a bigger tractor as I feel like like I'm overworking my older Kubota L4200.
The real moral of this story is "if you're going to buy a tractor sight-unseen, never have the seller arrange for the dealer to look it over. call the dealer yourself."
People really are scumbags.
We’ve bought a couple sight unseen, we’d never buy another tractor with a loader on it like that but straight tractor is fairly safe. We usually speak with the previous owner as well, rather than just the salesman.
Sir, you are lucky you ever received the tractor. Never ever pay w/ a wire transfer, there are so many ways you can be totally scammed. #2. Never believe a seller 100 percent, have your own man go out and inspect the tractor, car ect...
I have purchased several tractors and small dozers on line and have been screwed a few times due to me not doing my job
correctly. I always send a certified check or money orders, never wire transfer.
I knew some folks who bought a brand new Cadillac( from the dealer) and a test drive. That didn't make it home in it. The point is that there are no guarantees with anything. So gald that you are sharing your experiences with us and to those of you out there that say "i won't have ...." . It's easy to hind sight someone else; and not come out and own up to your oops. Thanks for your videos
It was a Cadillac not a Lexus
I'm sorry to hear that you had that problem. That makes me wonder who the dealer was, as I worked for someone in that state who did those kinds of things years ago. That is part of the reason why I left his employ, because I heard him talking over these kinds of plots with his mechanic in the shop next to where I was working, and didn't want to be party to it.
Yeah we bought several things sight un-seen as well with pretty mixed results. We picked up a JD 6420 awhile ago, but first we had our dealership run serial number checks and they were able to tell us the service records of it. It was well cared for and still one of my favorite tractors. Then we picked up a grain truck and a planter that works great.
Here is the way I see it. Now you have a Tractor that YOU have gone thru and know well what you have so that is the bright side and I myself could live with that. I have looked at things in person and bought them that I have had to go thru and repair and yes it bothers me but I can't take back a mistake and after all repairs are done I don't let it bother me anymore. Live and Learn or NOT.
I would of called the dealer my self and had them go and look at it ! but you cant trust all dealer too ! when i go my Kioti it was used and the salesman said it had been all gone over and the shop said it was good to go ! NOT got home and found out the air filter was dirty and found out it had not been gone over so we had to do it ! not we paid for ! take care and have a great week ! Curt :-)
i would never buy something on line. i would think it is better buying something used from a tractor dealer. yea you might pay more, but at least you see and feel the tractor, and might have some type of warranty on it. i don't know if you follow a guy on youtube called onelonleyfarmer, but he has some big tractors that he bought from the UK. he traveled there for a work vacation. in other words he took some time off, went to the UK just to find some tractors, bought what he liked, and had them shipped back to the states. good luck in the future, and watch some of WES videos on buying use equipment. he in very informative about it
+cuznjo1 I agree, but if you watch the video I did on cost of this machine I discuss the fact that I could not find a tractor like this in my price range at any dealer within several hours drive. The closest was 10 hours away and $10,000 more than I paid for this one.
funny you would mention wes, him and blake are the two polar opposites. wes is an angry, hate-filled bumpkin who constantly spews toxic vitriol on his videos. blake is calm, well spoken and level-headed. wes's vids are good for a laugh though, it's funny when wes throws a temper tantrum and his voice goes high pitched. just recently he thought he could play tire repairman and it exploded almost killing his son. then he blamed it on lyme disease lol
i happen to really like wes, it might be because i think like he does. like he said, he didn't wait long enough for the patch to cool. and when the tire did pop, it was on the inside of the tire, and no where near his son tim.
rust blade those tires arent going to kill anyone. They are not high pressure.
Hi Guy in WY, The Diff-lock light on the dash is connected to a pressure switch on low pressure manifold on the left side of the transmission, just in front of the rear axel. It is a common fault that the pressure switch starts falling after some time. There is a similar switch on the manifold for the MFWD dash light, but one is NO and the other is NC so you can’t just switch them around. It can of cause be the wires for the switches.
+Karsten G. Poulsen thanks! I found the diff lock solenoid in the manual located in that same area as well, I need to get into it when time allows.
Guy in WY. Your welcome, Thinking about it I might be wrong on the location of the manifold, as it depends on the transmission type. But the “system” is the same. The pressure switch should be close to the solenoid regardless.
Recently bought a semi and a small tractor, new Holland ts110 sight unseen. The semi, a Freightliner 1994 fld120 with a c12 engine. We had an independent insepection and were very happy with what we purchased. The ts110 we bought after a brief phone call with the auction company, rebel auction out of geogria. I have only ran the tractor a few hours but it seems every thing is as they said other than a leaky seal on the front right hub. I will always have a. Sneaky suspicion about this transaction because it took s a few hours to buy without inspection at what might turn out to be a good deal. Won't know until it fails or lasts forever if we did ok.
I will not pay thousands of dollars to get something used without to try it.
Thanx for your advice
Thanks for your honesty I subscribe for that reason. Lesson is send the Ford dealership over without the seller knowing your doing it. Bought a pickup only with a tonne of pictures best thing I ever did. Not experience so only bought low mileage truck
Thanks, you make some very good suggestions when buying a machine online. Probably your biggest mistake is not contacting a dealer or independent mechanic directly to inspect the tractor. It is costly, but since he is paid by you his obligation is to you. If you didn't have the know-how to do the repairs the finances wouldn't have worked out so well for you.
A few years ago I bought a logging machine through an equipment broker. Things worked out well and everything was as claimed. The broker said his goal was to have repeat customers so he was careful to represent the machines as honestly as he could. I later used him to sell a machine because I was very happy with his service.
+william davidson you’re correct, I should’ve gone through the dealer directly. I didn’t make that mistake again!
when my old job sold machines the boss had us do a walk around video
start off on the serial of the machine and do a close up walk aroumd with the machine running
engine bay walkways cab ect
That kind of money and this happened and you have documentation for fraud, hire an attorney in the POS location and Sue them.
Compliments to you on taking your experience incredibly well. It's worth mentioning that if you are too scared to do anything, you never learn and grow from experience. In order to win some, you will likely lose some on the journey. In order to experience either, you have to become a player and get in the game. Just realize there will be challenges, and keep on looking forward. You appear to have done a very respectable job keeping a real view of past decisions are made, and what you can control is what is in front of you into the future. It's not all bad, experience contributes to knowledge. To get there - you have to become a participant.
Thank you!
That's deep. Well said!
Hi Great video I bought a NEW front end loader sight unseen from the dealer asked heaps of questions like engine brand trans brand diff and final drives it was new so condition should be new so i thought spent 60 thousand had a load finder to bring the machine 4000 km , but when it got here it had been on a trailer as a shared load , the trailer was parked on the side of the road for 5 days , no batterys or fuel in it smashed windows as well the driver blew 2 tyres on his trailer and charged me for them as extras . The loader was a pile of junk it overheated with in 30 min of operation , air con not working trans had a horrible noise in it and it did not have zf diffs and trans like i was told it had non standard gearbox and diffs . I rang the dealer they denided ever telling me about diffs or gearbox they said every thing was checked before it left and it worked fine . 3 years later we have rebuilt the transmission and cooling system but the machine is basicly unusable as it has a heap of hyd problems like fading steering , brakes and lift , now the oil pressure wont go above 10 psi and its done 247 hours from new
You should name the seller. Always get a walk around video of all the components. A written letter of all the known faults. A third party paid by you to verify the equipment's usability and faults also sent to you direct. I am glad you came out sort of Ok on the deal. We almost bought a large articulated loaded off Government Liquidation. They gave a half around video of the loader and said it was in working order. We took a trip to see it. On the other side of the equipment water was spewing out of the block under compression and missing. They were hiding that fact. They had a smaller loader that ran OK. We decided to bid on that one. Every time we bid the same guy would counter bid. We finally stopped when the bid was way high. So you would think it was sold. Not so! Two months later it was up for bids again. So even the government sites are rigged. Buyer beware!
Hi, you surprise me ,here in the UK we have professional independent agri inspectors that charge a very reasonable fee, and will give a hand written detailed in depth report minimum( 8hrs ) they will even report down to trim and paintwork discrepancies ,any obvious recent repairs and the quality of work carried out, essential and desireable repairs needed etc etc.and will commit there opinions honestly .However they will never recommend you to purchase the item,but to make your own mind up on their very thorough report .I have purchased 4 Tractors with my pop like this,and never been dissatisfied. Money very well spent in my humble opinion.
Regards from an old Limey b from across the pond.
When a Video is from 200 yards away. For a Machine for sale on the Web. Red Flag bigtime. Good Video
Round trip air line ticket runs about 500-900 that is cheap compared to the cost shipping
Without watching the next video Im sure a major difference between to 2 purchases is the moral and ethical character of the person you purchased from. One was and one was not.
one of the best videos on youtube on tractors thank you
I drove around to a few dealers and inspected and drove what I was interested in. I was able to check engine oil , tires , hydraulics. I ended up with a 20 year old tractor with 4oo hours on it. I horsetraded the dealer into new rear rims. I have been very happy with it and they delivered it free. I would have been anxious about buying it on the net
We got burned buying a piece of equipment sort of like this. Major difference was that I had pics. Other than that similar. Talked to the owner told me a bunch of stuff that was partially true. Problem was the machine was 4wd and the front pinion was stripped. We didn't find that out until we got the machine and I tried to drive it somewhere the needed 4wd and the front axle didn't do anything. I ended up putting a new front end under the machine and fixed all the issues and then sold it. That was the first time we bought something of that price (8,500+1500 delivery) and I will not do it again. Everyone makes mistakes the trick is to learn from them.
Next time you want a tractor get ahold of dishman equipment from Muskogee Oklahoma hes honest and will be very truthfully about any piece of equipment in his lot
As for the paint all our older new Hollands do that on the hoods from the engine heat the paint seems super thin and chips and peels after a couple thousand hours the newer ones haven't done it but most of our older ones have
Great video, thanks for taking the time to share your experience that will benefit hundred's of people to not buy equipment from someone that take people for a ride
+Jan Kotze thanks! The tractor that went right video is coming soon!
I enjoy your honesty towards this
+Connor thank you.
No matter how cautious you are, how man questions you ask, however many pictures or videos you see site unseen is sill site unseen. Within minutes of seeing something in person you have more of a feel for it than anybody can tell you.
Buyers/sellers may have different perspectives on an item. The seller that sold you the New Holland may have been used to 10-20 year old equipment and To him it may have been a great tractor. If your used to running new stuff and then try to describe this old tractor you will have a different feel/eye for it.
Thank you for posting videos with pointers like this, and for sharing the real numbers involved. Financials are a taboo subject, yet, for aspiring farmers, business owners, etc. knowing the numbers is essential. I have a few honest questions for you on your New Holland purchase:1. Was it not feasible to travel to Maryland to see the tractor in person?2. For purchasing, could you have obtained a loan and then, if the debt bothered you, just paid off the principle with the cash on hand? Any reason for not doing this (perhaps the credit inquiry would be why)?3. On the hydraulics, would you be concerned about the pump life being shortened by the contaminated fluid? And why would the fluid be contaminated in the first place?4. I have heard that a manufacturer's expected engine life can be anywhere from 6,000 to 10,000 hours. What about for a gear transmission? How much life do you expect from it?Thanks again!!!
Seriously good questions, and they deserve a better answer than I can fit in the comment box. I'll do a video or livestream video on them soon.
Rail works pretty good too plus they will buy the product if something goes wrong. Good advice with large purchases, the escrow service.
Good video, thank you Guy. Well, it stands to reason why the seller wouldn't take your calls after the tractor was in your possession. He just did what he had to do(from making up stories to telling partial truths) to get the tractor off of his lot and into someone else's hands, because he knew it had more problems than he was telling. To me, the unanswered calls is nothing more than him admitting that he lied to you. The story he gave of him having New Holland doing a check on it like you asked for was the topper in my opinion. Him doing that puts a very negative light on New Holland and drags their reputation through the mud, when it wasn't true from the start.
marhuf he bought from a private seller/curbstoner not a New Holland dealer.
Yes, I knew he didn't buy it from New Holland, I just wasn't sure about the seller being a private seller though. even though, his not returning Guy's calls tell a lot about the seller. Thanks for your reply.
I would taken a round trip flight next time, a $500 plane ticket would/could have saved thousands. But who would have known?
Still the more he talks it sound like a cheap "master's degree" in What Can Go Wrong (and what to avoid)
David Mays exactly! If you can't test drive don't buy !!!! Be safe and God bless you and your family !!!!! Eddy
Hey this is Wyoming . (where EVERY season is a crap shoot)
"Screw the risk" is in the Wyo DNA !!
+David Mays that’s a good idea, but not one I’m likely to do. 😆
How are ya on "mail oder bride" ??? My Grandma from Jackson Hole was one !!
You need a dope slap.. If you want an equipment evaluation. You call and pay the dealer. They have a reputation to protect and would have given you a inspection report for $0-$750 cost. I the guy is up to no good he would hesitate on an independent inspection. If the dealer had a comparable unit for a better price they might have offered you a better machine for the same money and thrown in delivery to the local dealer.
I just bought a 2014JD 3038E and so far, it's an absolute piece of garbage. Be careful when you buy used equipment. You get screwed.
Two things, you should have hired the dealer or a competent person to look at it and report directly to you. You should have asked for maintenance records.
The diff lock light stays on in my TS100A, mechanic told me it was something shorting out which causes the light to come on, he said first clean the trailer lights plug (the thing you plug into your trailer to get the brakes, hazards etc lights to work) because that is a common cause of the light staying on but I haven't done it yet so I don't know if it will work or not.
ive asked many questions about some engines in the uk, people just get angry and p**sed off
You should name the seller as a warning to others.
Don't depend on any answers to questions, or video. GO inspect the item IN PERSON
I heard New Holland’s are a pain in the ass to work on, anyway?
Look up the local dealerships in his area and ask the service manager about it. I had to do that on my last tractor.
Good maintenance on any vehicle is important.
Hope you don't mind but I have shared your video to some people on some forums that were looking at buying a tractor over the web. And hoolfuly you will get a few more subs out of it. . Love the channel
There is a brake fluid sensor on those tractors. It's in the cap of the fluid reservoir. There is a button on top of the cap you can press to test the light in the dash.
My reservoir doesn't have any wiring going to it, or any that looks like it has been disconnected.
Guy in WY. That might be why the light is on. Sounds like someone done away with the correct cap. The wires may be hanging there somewhere. If you have an owners manual you can look and see if that really is the brake fluid light that is staying on. I have had the brake fluid light come on on my 6030 before and it was just a tad low of fluid. New Holland has been using that brake fluid warning system since back in the early 90's.
Guy in WY. Oh if you have to add brake fluid it takes a special mineral based oil, not DOT brake fluid, you can get it from a NH dealer. The reservoir is on the right side of the firewall, raise the hood all the way up to see it.
+DLH Farms I had read about the mineral oil, but I still can’t find a sensor or any wiring that looks like it should go to a sensor. My light on the dash was caused by a problem with the water in fuel sensor, and went away when I fixed that.
When you get a good deal on the Brooklyn bridge you may want to have someone, preferably not someone from your church, go over and take a look at the rivets.
Great video. You can make mistakes standing next to a tractor at an auction too. If you do it again I would contact a dealer yourself and have them go look at it. They could have done everything you mentioned in an hour or less. It may have been money well spent. Good think you are able to fix the problems yourself.
LOVE your Videos you seem very nolegable about mechanical things keep up the good work God Bless you and your family Thank you
Hi guy in wy. We are in Worland, starting a channel with a few old tractor rebuilds and an earthship build.
I'm not sure the money you might have saved by getting a used tractor from the other side of the country is worth not seeing it in person. In fact I believe paying a little more for a local tractor is worth it. Did you get such a great price that it covered the shipping cost plus the thousands you spent on repairs?
You didn't contact the dealer?
It might not be the best solution if you are remote from the nearest rail head, you'd still have to figure out how to get it home...just a thought.
Good info Blake. Lookin forward to more.
Where in Maryland it came from?
I'd be naming the seller.
A possible strategy is to buy an extended warranty to cover the machine
the first year. Several companies sell coverage on used equipment.
rochrich extended warranties are just a money making gimmick for sellers
I would usually agree. However, during the first year after getting
a vehicle with an unknown maintenance history from someone you
will probably not see again, it's a better deal.
rochrich then again, if u read the fine print, extended warranties don't cover much.
Maybe the word "extended" is tripping us up. I'm recommending
buying after market maintenance insurance. The plans covering cars
are common enough to hear the ads on the radio. There are other
plans covering many other types of equipment.
Typically such plans require a check up ahead of time. You can't blow an engine and then expect them to replace it for a few bucks a month. This isn't Obama Care!
it costed me $900 to have my tractor shipped to my place. the tractor was only 3 hrs south from here. i seen it on tractorhouse so i drove down there & took it for a test drive & fell in love with it.. so now its at my farm.. paid $8k for the tractor..
What your saying is he lied - it's fixed now there - but your being a mechanic help - wire transfer - you got kind of lucky
Thats why u buy realy cheap used equiplment.. not for 20-30k but for 10k and les. Ofcourse u still need to look for details and stuf.. but ull have to invest in most of used equipment.
Guy in WY: there is an old Roman saying that pretty much says it all: "Caveat Emptor" or "Let the Buyer Beware".
+David Campbell no argument there!
here in Austria we look at nearly evrything we are buying directly so we visit the seller and look at evrything at the machine and let it start and also drive it so the Chance of making and bad buy is very low
Ask to see hitch pin hole for wear, ask to see front pivot for wear as well.
Excellent points.
I like the hell out of you after watching this.
I think you're a little too trusting. Everybody has got to have a fault - the only Perfect Man ever lived got crucified.
But I take a couple goons and a shit-ton of cash with me when I go to buy stuff.
I count out bout half what the guy is asking for right in front of him - and then start looking at the machine.
Pick it apart, stuff the money back in my pocket a couple times and get in the truck to leave it.
I finally find out exactly what's the least he would possibly take for it.
Then judging by the unit's condition I decide.
Hey it works for me - but then again I like 70s and 80s tractors.
i always used uship and had good luck with it.. great tips tho
where in Maryland did it come from?
Hi I'm not buying equipment right now, but for fun I look round to see what guys are selling and what it's making. There are some real interesting video's linked to TH-cam from E bay. I was watching some for Case construction equipment the other day. Loads of it had real nice paint on things like old 580 TLB's but when the guys demonstrating it you can see the thousands of hours wear in everything, from knowing what to watch closely .
To be honest from that i'd not waste my time going to look at stuff there. My whole impression of that company is they buy for $1000 or 2, spend a $1000 on paint and try find a sucker for $7500 or best offer. Some of the guys on Camera operating this stuff for them, don't have a clue either and make the equipment look bad to L.O.L .
That tractors pretty well what I figured from my experience fixing for farms and call a typical beat up feedlot(livestock) tractor here in Canada. I'm with your thinking though if you get it fixed and don't spend much more, it should be ok for what you want as a stop gap for a few years. Then move it on again for a nicer one if financial and machine opportunity arise at the right times . I'm liking your video's you get what you see not some" dishonest look good acting" Thanks for sharing what you do in the real world out here of farming/repairs.
Thanks super. I could edit this stuff to make myself look like a genius, but I wanted to show what it's really like when you're a small outfit trying to grow.
Did you buy the New Holland from Key Machinery? If you would rather not answer on here, send me a private message. Thanks!
I tried to respond, but my message was sent back. How could I respond to you?
Email me. GuyinWY@gmail.com
The diff lock light comes on every now and then on our ts100a
It might have been cheaper to fly there, look at it very closely & knock down the price even more, it might help u pay for the flight there.
Did you check railway express for moving the tractor to your closest railhead?
I didn't, but that's a really good idea.
Did you ever contact the previous owner? (Before the dealer bought it)
+Peter John Cooper no, I have no idea who owned it before the seller I bought it from.
Thanks for the reply. Excellent video. A lesson that goes further than tractors.
Thank you, your honesty is admirable and it's also good advice. This is something I had considered doing myself but will not now due to what happened to you. It would be nice if you named the equipment seller / dealer so people know and at the worst condition they can refute any claims made. That's fair. I have several dealers in my immediate area and even more all within a 25 mile radius so I think I will get a hands on with whatever I buy...., most likely a John Deere, if not then a New Holland (Ford) just for the quality of machine. Sorry you had a tough time with this one, some people are only out for the money and will lie all day long to make a buck. I spend so much time researching this stuff online my wife things I'm living in another world these days (hahaha) maybe I am but better to learn than to get burned. Again - Thanks :)
40K with your labor add another 3-5K total 45K, how much more for a new one.
Hi Guy in WY.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/131y-BGXzecWmUQ-iX48MaWIGRIH9xcB11csi6qw0Ybk/edit?usp=sharing
Here is a link of the ranch land up in the Grande Prairie area. The branding pen was once a barley and wheat field that I used to cultivate, plant and harvest as a teen. The ranches belong to my sister's family and my nephew. They have a cattle lease along a wild river and feed the cattle at home in the winter. The bison are on a big ranch along another river. My nephew, his dad and few friends run a one week horse camp on that bison ranch. You will see me stirring oatmeal for the camp kids and wranglers in the morning. The grizzly is just to show you what they can get to be when they are feeding on cattle. It was shot about 50 miles from home. Of course I have been off the farm for 35 years now, teaching in CT and living along the shore of Long Island Sound. Now I am waiting to get into the condo on the ocean in Fort Lauderdale. But my heart is still back home on the prairie land that I once farmed with my dad.It was my grandpa's homestead from the 1920's.
There was a guy that bought a truck sight unless and it was a totally POS. NEVER buy sight unseen.
you could post the sellers name
i guess hindsight is golden
but shit
i wont even buy a new work light off ebay without a picture of it
+fowletm1992 I’m still glad I bought the tractor, but I would’ve been much better off knowing everything up front.
hi guy just watched your video on buying a tractor off the internet, here in the uk, we have an old saying know your bucket before you but it ,
The freight broker gets a hell of a lot more than a couple hundred bucks.
Did you give the New Holland seller a bad yelp review?
Just kidding it is always annoying to deal with lies. And were did you buy it?
What is that box like image on the window to your right?
+Mauser304 on the passenger side door there’s a chart that lists gear combinations and travel speeds
Sight unseen = buyer beware! Buying then figure how to ship? Ones born every minute i guess.
Are you going to respray the parts of the ts115a ? Great channel btw 👍
I would like to, maybe next year.
spending nearly $30k on a machine, it would have been well worth it to spend whatever to go look at the machine. flight, hotel and rental car would have been well worth the cost
I wish seller could tell FULL truth but then seller sound a poor maintainer. But least you fix problems, I same problem with truck do see that dealer at dealership. NO he burnt me n other customers. I believe their r people out there for quick buck n don’t care what problems they past on. I fix my truck n got very go use, it wasn’t best truck I have had but least it for itself.
I wonder who owned this tractor and what they used it for.
Why would you ever buy sight unseen?
YOU should have called the new holland dealership YOURSELF!!! and had them send a tech over to look at it. i work for a cat dealership ( 13 years now) and we do inspections for out of states sellers ALL THE TIME! i send the buyer a full 10 page report on system pressures and oil sample results and AT LEAST 20 pictures - usually of problem areas.... sorry buddy - its on you!
dad always said - if its to good to be true - IT IS !!!!
that amount of water in the backend won't av done it much good if been there for a while,you'll be avin that to bits next,good luck with that one.
Great video/documentary. Thanks for such good information. You helped a lot of people buy equipment
Thanks for the info I learned a lot.
should have got permission for inspection from him and organised the machinery inspector from a dealer your self.
Here’s the best way, or my way, call and get your best idea, then tell them you’re going to go see it and schedule the dealer to be there at the same time, and spend the money and time, if you won’t spend the money and time, expect to spend it later, trust no one
I think I'd have wanted to talk to the NH dealer or mechanic that was supposed to have examined the tractor, not just take the seller's word for it that it was examined.
I'm wondering if you got a written report from the dealer or talked to the dealer. Oh, I guess you didn't but I wish you had demanded it now.
I would consider you are very lucky you got the machine in the first place after sending 28 grand sight unseen...Let the buyer beware...As honest as you are, you expected the guy selling you the tractor to be....but he was in it to sell it for as much as he could get out of it....If you were to mention his name it would appear sour grapes....lesson learned...don't buy sight unseen!
I don't mean to hurt your feelings, but you did pretty much everything wrong.
1) A wire transfer? You knew better than that. At the very least send a cashier's check with the driver.
2) Did you do a lien search? How do you know if he had it financed? If he did, the lender can come and get it even if you paid for it.
3) You wanted to buy it WAY too much. Sometimes you have to jump on a deal, if you do, fly out and buy it, then store it at an equipment dealer until you pick it up.
4) Picking a price "somewhere in the middle" when deciding on transport is just as safe as buying a piece of machinery for a price somewhere in the middle. Don't do it. Do your homework. It's not hard to find a broker with a good reputation and insurance. Look on Ebay. You can get some GREAT deals if a trucker hasn't got a load for his trip back.
5) If you're going to have the machine inspected by a dealer, YOU MAKE THE CALL and call a dealer that isn't the one that's closest to him. Ask them if they know the guy. If they do, maybe they'll share some info on him, but if they say he's a good ol boy, call another dealer to do the inspection. They may say he's good because the owner is related, or is going to sell the guy a new tractor once he sells the tractor to you.
6) It's fine to look at the oil and fluids, but it's also easy for him to change them before he takes the pictures. Have the seller take pictures of every surface of the tractor (it's not that hard), including underneath and running. Ask for pictures (they're much easier to look at up close) except for a video of the machine running and operating, including the gauges.
7) It's going to sound strange, but BUY FROM A DEALER if you can. They'll make some really good deals if they've had a machine that they don't want on the lot. For instance a deere dealer won't want a Kubota on the lot, etc. When you're looking at prices, and you find a machine that looks like a decent price, you'd be surprised how much some of them will drop their price just to sell it. Your biggest job is to make phone calls. You can find good deals within 500 miles of you if you actually know what a piece of machinery is worth.
8) If you're actually trusting someone on a long distance sale, GOOD LUCK, but you will lose a LOT of money. ALWAYS inspect a machine yourself if you can.
9) Buy closer to home and go get it yourself. If you had, you would have found one that was the same price when you got done shipping it, fixing it, and paying for the high hours.
10) If you don't have a truck big enough to transport tractors, start buying and selling skid steers. I'm retired now, but I used to buy them, fix them, paint them and put on new decals. I sold more than 80 of them (half on Ebay) another 8 or so mini excavators, and another 20 to 25 low HP tractors/loaders like Kubotas, New Holland, Deere and a couple of other imports over a 4 year period. It was hard work and a lot of driving, but it got me through after I lost my job. If you're looking to make a buck, I'd suggest that you try smaller stuff.
Oh, and don't buy machines with high hours. They're more likely to have hidden problems that you get stuck with, and the guy that buys it from you isn't going to be happy if he has a major failure 10 hours after he gets it home.
Best wishes and BE CAREFUL.
+Bill Smith can’t argue with ya. The Deere went totally differently.