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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- #Elektron #ModelSamples #Review
Actual playing starts around @17:38 -- I talk a lot...
ADDENDUM!
I was trying to recall what the sequencer / trig buttons felt like, and my memory kept going back to something in the 90's that I just couldn't recall, and for good reason! They feel a lot like a television Remote Control (and I haven't touched one of those in YEARS!). Kinda squishy, but solidish. You definitely don't need to jam on them (maybe after a million presses, who knows...) but that is entirely what they feel like (think the number pads). Was driving me nuts trying to recall the sensation!
This was such a great video, I really enjoyed the whole thing, I 100% agree with everything you say here, top job👍
Thank you, thank you!
That was the honest M:S review I was looking for! thanks for your sincere comments. watched till the end I totally agree. IMO if you like the gear and it suits your workflow its going to be a progear for your setup. At the end of the day its all that matters :)
Tuvay OH WOW! Thanks for the kind words! I kind of watched it to critique mysef and its amazing how many things I missaid, or could have said better! Im really glad you got something out of it! In all honesty, this lil guy has caused me to rethink a LOT about my setup. Im not nearly as opposed to sampling as I once was, and am actually interested in improving my sampling techniques! Thanks again for the encouragement!
TH-cam needs more people like you
Wow, thanks man!
I just bought one for $280 and financially it was not the best move but I am thinking about selling my Akai MPC Live 2 which I love, for this. It has not arrived yet but it is "checking all the boxes" for me. I don't have to worry about it getting stolen because it is not expensive and it does the things I need. I was looking at running it thru a strymon deco to get stereo. I thought I needed stereo sampling but it would be better with a expression pedal set to pan. I disagree with the moog and buchala but Pittsburg Modular is rad!... and not overpriced. I can sample my vst collection, I love the digital sound, but I have a tube amp too. Sample start and end, pitch and a sequencer! That is all I wanted my Roland SP 202 to be. I bought the Live two to make drums and I mostly use it as a synth. It is amazing for that and the speaker is the best feature I didn't know I wanted but I can add a monitoring speaker to this too. When it comes I will plug this into my old Xtortion and DOD Echo FX and its gonna get crazy.
@@electromajick Pittsburgh Modular is such a great company, and always cool to talk to about stuff! Some of Richards design schemas are a bit quirky, but its like working with a mad scientists lab equipment at times! Im trying to find something that I wish I had picked up when I had the opportunity...
I usually fast forward through opinions and philosophies when it comes to synth reviews. I don’t care or think that they’re any wiser than my barber or my 4 year old granddaughter. ***BUT*** I listened to every word you said and it was so refreshing. Heck, I subscribed!
I actually have the Model Cycles from Elektron and it is crazy fun. This is next on my list. Excellent pieces of gear that are as much “Pro” as my $1300 plastic Roland keyboard. The enjoyment I find in this is like when I got my first Transistor AM radio in 1966. That $10 piece of gear launched me into a world filled with The Beatles, James Brown, Hendrix.
What a great starter for musicians. IT’S $300 ..I spend that on groceries every 2 weeks
Thank You!!!
Thank you! And sorry it's taken me so long to reply (youtube doesn't always tell me what's happening)! What inspired this video was that I had watched this instagram person going on how it wasn't "pro gear", and you know... it really bothered me. I've seen "pro" musicians use a broomstick, some clothesline and a bucket, and actually make money touring with their "pro gear". It's such a nonsensical term. I've also read people saying that they only buy expensive gear because it sets them apart somehow. The reason I don't have the Model:Samples anymore is simply because over time I prefered the Electribe! Another "not pro gear" item (even though I believe Orbital used an Electribe early on). I once read a comment from Steve Vai that one of the nicest guitars he ever played was a Mexican made Fender (and this is while he was well into his contract with Ibanez!). This isn't mean to discredit high end audio production work, such as what Richard Devine, or Joel Zimmerman, or even Richard D. James do (But even Richard and James will use obscure stuff just for the fun of it!). Thanks for the sub, and the kind accolade!
This was a really great video, Thank you for showing how you built your beat. Many videos have hours behind the scenes of people programming their devices to sound perfect. then their video is just them hitting play and wiggling knobs for no perceptible reason. I liked that you walked us along and showed us that it really is a fun device. I have been all over eBay waiting to get a hold of one they seem really fun.
TJ Benscoter Thanks! I just figured tooling around a bit would be fun. All things being equal this lil guy has made me rethink a lot of my eurorack setup, and Im almost thinking of selling my RYTM for something else. Ive always had an aversion to sampling, but I think I need to rethink that aversion a bit.
This was great. I just got the samples and the cycles and I'm happy as heck. Love the Super Nintendo comment, I thought the same thing. The commentary in general was on point. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! I thought I was a bit verbose at first, and reviews are not my strong suite, however Im glad you enjoyed and got something of worth out of it!
probably the best review on this lil guy! awesome work and sweet track!
Thank you! I actually sold it a while ago, but in all honesty I think I'm going to be picking up one again, along with a Model:Cycles! Need to sell something else, first -- and that's taking a bit of a long time....
Not the typical review, but super relaxing to listen to while doing some other stuff. Thanks for this!
I'm glad you enjoyed, mate! Just me and my iPhone and an Mic from a Behringer Mixer over USB! I'm thinking of doing another review like this on maybe my Drumbrute Impact, or maybe some module.
@@boedye yeah drumbrute impact review please!
@@rtplayer3543 Oh! Thank you for the endorsement -- and I would... if I still had the Impact! That was about... 3 Drum Machines Ago! However, I can tell you this: As far as machines go, it was an enjoyable one for certain! Now would I buy one again, if I had to choose between it, and a Model:Cycles? I'd probably go with the Cycles if only because it's a bit more flexible! The DM:I really is bare bones, but it's also VERY cost effective. Hand down, do NOT buy the original Drumbrute -- there is nothing "brute" about it, and you have to add a lot of external effects in the signal chain to get it to sound great. They are both intuitive machines, but the Impact is a solid machine that just sounds great!
"you make it pro" loved this take and was having the same thought as you said it!
Thanks! A bit of background on this vid: Typically reviews aren't my thing, but someone made a comment on Instagram about this machine, and I just happened to be in the process of trading my OP-Z for it (yes, I traded an OP-Z, but IMHO the resale value of the OP-Z would have amounted to be about the same... and I really don't like TE...). So said person went on this long winded rant about how Elektron lied, and I'm reading all all this as I'm waiting to get mine in the mail. I haven't had much time to play lately, and sadly it's just sitting on my desk ATM, but it's a fun jam for certain!
I with you in so many ways....I think the common consumer likes to hate or praise and never really consider the fact that it’s a product to use and have fun with or you don’t like it and sell it no big deal. Also electribes would be the perfect instrument if it had micro timing like elektron...love em
Personally, I like this just a weeeee bit more than the 'tribe! And yea, i think we've come to a point now where it's more about what you do with what you have, rather than the supposed "quality" of what you have. Unless youre Deadmau5 and you just happen to have a state of the art Dolby Atmos Studio built into your house... That's a bit different tho. ;-)
Model:Cycles is the companion you seek!
Why model cycles? I see more videos on them but idk why? I hear they have a sound. Which is fine... but is it more fun?
Love the video and commentary.
The M:S is a no-brainer for anyone wanting to get into it and having something hands-on for live use and just have fun.
People underrate fun.
Also it's like dirt cheap now after black Friday. (250-299)
Agreed! It actually nudged me in a direction for appreciating samples more. I don't use it often, but I like just having it around to play about with. Plus, you can find a TON of free sample packs to just toss on there. My only real gripe is the lack of battery power. It really should have had a slow or an internal battery pack ala the OP1 / OPZ. Would have made it perfect.
@@boedye I'm glad it did. Sampling is basically the first wave of electronic music. Delia Derbyshire, etc.
About the power: It takes 5v, so it probably lasts a long time with a powerbank.
I think about it like what I think about with the Digitone. I can compose on it and if I twist a knob it turns whatever I do into something really different just because of how FM behaves. It's Happy accident land.
In a way, all Elektrons reminds me of a souped-up Gameboy. They're basically LSDJ with a sequencer interface. Nerdseq with the launchpad and more knobs :D
@@fernandomercado2711 Actually, if memory serves the developer for LSDJ actually works or worked for Teenage Engineering. I believe he developed their sequencer, or something to that effect! Yes, I too like the "everything upfront" scheme. I want to have fun while playing, not menu dive and read manuals. It's also too, why I got the Akai Force -- SO much more intuitive and in front of you. Yes, there is a 100 page manual, but even without it, you can still get the general idea of what's going on just by looking at it. IMHO if I have to read more than 20 pages of a manual just to make the damn thing work, it's probably too much for me to actually enjoy, regardless. Sure I have some stuff that breaks that rule, but for the most part everything I own can be summed up in that amount of paper work.
@@boedye Ergonomics. User feedback. Good design trumps everything else.
I mean I like depth, just not obscurity.
I think we're on the same wavelength! XD
Got mine in the post yesterday, Can't wait to get lost in this FunBox.
COOL! I hope you have a lot of fun with it! For the price point, and the functionality and form, you can't beat it!
That vocal sample!!! Very groovy, man! Is there any wearing on those rubbery buttons? Or they do withstand the frequent use?
Well... a lots happened since I made this, one being that I no longer have it! However, I do now have a Model:Cycles, and its the same build quality -- that being said, I can say: I dont forsee the rubber wearing down -- its really hard! If anything, I could almost see that being an issue a number of years down the road, as hard rubber like that tends to get brittle. If I remember, Ill let you know in about a decade or so (provided I still have it)!
@@boedye hehe thanks! I just ordered mine and just wanted to know if there are any issues with the buttons! Cheers man!
I really like your sound and talk!
Alexandra van Straaten
The way you talk reminds me of the Hoax Hotel guy, damn i wanna talk like that too
I am not familiar with the Hoax Hotel! Im hoping this is complimentary!
Totally looked this fellow up! THANKS -- I can def hear a similarity in dictation and approach!
Nice review
Ginseng Thanks :-)
Too bad your camera angle doesn't show the little screen. There is a lot of useful information in that tiny screen.
It's surprisingly useful and well laid out -- much more simpler than Elektron's other offerings....
Did you notice that it's not made in China?
I did not! It doesn't entirely surprise me at this point as other developing nations are under cutting China as far as production cost -- China seems to like that Capitalism nowadays!
The same sentiment spoken 10x. The video could've been 5min.
Maybe like... 7 at the most.
I just came to hear you say the buttons feel like erasers, lol
Ase o/m/g HAHAHAHAAH! They do!! They feel like that hard rubbery texture and density of those pink erasers you'd get in school!
Well fuckin said!
Thank you! I've long since moved on from it into the Syntakt, but it's the Samples is still a rad box! I think now I'd just get the Roland TR6S for a sample / drum machine to compliment the Syntakt!
What do you do when your samples long and there's volume reduction like having a drum break
Well, I don't actually...
I have long since parted with my Samples in favor of an Electribe ESX-SD!
Come on now. You only buy new gear because you enjoy it. You can stop buying anytime you like. It's not like you've got a gear buying problem. That's crazy talk, man.
At some point I realized that this is kinda like a trainset. Im not like my friend who is (was) a performing musician, and thats okay! I've seen people of all different skill levels doing all sorts of great (and notsogreat) things with great (and notsogreat) tools! I just took issue with "Elektron is lying to you, reviewers are lying to you, and they are just banking on the name". That just bothered me, ya know?
@@boedye I know. I was just trying to be funny. Sorry about that. ^_^
zooblestyx Not at all! I laughed a
at it, but only cause its kinda sorta true! Im already thinking "if I sell this and this I could upgrade this!"
@@boedye I feel you, brother ^_^ We're in a hobby that agrees poorly with my modest income. I keep buying fun little things to tide me over until I can sell the lot and get me one of them new-fangled Deluges. After that, I won't need to buy anything more. But I might. Not like I have to.
@@zooblestyx AH! Yea, the Deluge is like the Tenori-On x10! I saw that, but I didn't feel it was portable enough (and I already have a Tenori-On in my collection!).
Also...you never rocked the stickers?
Nawwww, im a boring barebones guy. Ive never had the talent for fun, quirky, and haphazardly yet cleverly placed stickers. Ive been thinking about getting one of those overlay stickers, that basically make it look like a finished product.
ok buyin it lol
WOOT! You can score them pretty cheaply second hand (if you haven't already)!
honest opinion or a subjective thought? this is my question
It's a trick question: Honest opinions are subjective thoughts ;-)
Should we start a Mylar Melodies bank drain support group?
Oof... yea, I know that feeling!
Like the story format, would use "kinda"a few less times....love this machine too, 👍👍👍
Thank you for the constructive criticism! I always appreciate honest and good commentary to help me produce better stuff in the future. It really is a lot of fun, and would absolutely buy a "Model:Analog" in a heart beat!
Thanks. Model, not modal.
Quite right.
the Bob Ross thing is always just below the surface.........
HAHAHAHA -- its just this nice, happy little plink -- there are no rules, just plink wherever you like!
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@@boedye 😃
Holy shit 15 min in and still waiting for the “review” to start. Jesus christ. Also its pronounced model like a supermodel not modal like the fabric.
Hi, friend!
Couple of things: 1. It's actually 17:38 in where I start to play about (it's in the description) ((I also mention in the description that I talk a lot!)). 2. Praise His Glory! 3. Poe tay toe, poe tah toe?
OH and fourthly, seeing as how we are being critical:
"Holy shit! 15 minutes in and I'm still waiting for the 'review' to start -- Jesus Christ! Also; it's pronounced 'mod el', as in 'super mod el', not 'mode al', as in the fabric."
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts -- I'll keep them in mind whenever I feel like making another video :-)
@@boedye So I just got one of these and in all candor I'm about to smash it against the wall. So I'm more a modular synth guy (I own Grandmother, MiniBrute, MicroKorg., Mono Station, JD-Xi, etc) but I also have an MX49, a Deepmind 12. etc.
I wanted to try Elektron so this seemed the obvious choice.
The machine? It seems pretty cool....but you know what's missing. A tutorial of any sort. "To make a pattern, first turn on the machine, next....." Literally a walk-thru ot the workflow. I cannot find anything remotely like that.
Have you seen the Elektron tutorials for this? And can you believe someone got PAID for doing those? I'm a little ornery right now because I have to take time away read through the instructional manual..
Check-a-Bitch Beats To be sure, Elektron are not know for simplicity, and their machines tend to have a bit of a steep learning curve. That being said, this guy has a significantly less curve, comparitively. As a general rule, everything really is laid out in front, and as far as things go, if you dont overthink it, it is a standard, barebones drum machine.
Select T1-6, and then sequence where you want it to trigger with buttons 1-16. Everything up front works with whatever track you have selected. The oscillator samples are basically granular, 1 cycle shots, drums are nice and organized, and yea... thats about it!
Even so, in the end Im like you: All about eurorack.
You talk too much!!!
So I've been told!
great commentary @boe_dye