@@fistofram5526 it's not that bad to mention LCS. i think only NA fans say they better region is when NRG beat G2 last year but no way they can at least win a 1 game in any series against LPL teams
I don't get it. Fanatic get bot gaped massivly two times but are able to win through solo lanes in second game with humanoid osca and razork on fire. Why would you resort to that draft in game3? Like do you actually want to lose?
Only reason I can imagine is, that they wanna get practice on those front2b comps against the best Teams in the world. And maybe not show off their best comps/tactics?🤔
@@jony5916 Could be, or there champion pools really are that limited with the viego and xin xao ban maybe rasork had no carry pick left he can play. But that zac top is still somewhat a troll in my eyes.
@@chancejacobs8708rekkled was worse but indeed Noah ceiling is mediocre ADCs in LEC, FNC needs some young talent (from Europe gtfo with those imports)
@@Kiiiurself8482 both jun and noah are korean... They were playing weakside for the first two games against lucian /nami then a varus/rumble... They were behind but not so much that their solo laners can't carry them. If they were in asian teams, the other solo laners would have been able to win those games. They may not be guma or ghost level in playing weakside but they did well enough not to make the game overly one sided. That third game... humanoids mistake in the early game that net the enemy team 3 kills made it too hard to comeback... especially since he ain't that good as taliyah.. EU's rising talent pool can't get to MSI, so SK rising talent pool went for EU... :/
Jun played rly well and in defense of Noah they played losing matchup every single game. Humanoid was fed but on the other side he made some questionable decisions aswell.
Gives the whole responsability of the damage to noah in game 3 was criminal haha man, if bot is getting gaped just give my guy a secure adc like ezreal, and let shine top-mid-jg hahah
? his lanes got fucked up from early skirmishes that they lost as a team, which just perpetuated the losing lanes he was drafted into. Watch the games next time
I had hope for Fnatic but I'm sure they will qualify and have time to improve, Humanoid proved once again he's one of the best midlaner in the world when he's at his peak. Maybe having a very strong matchup like Camille in Game 2 for Oscar can be a key also.
FNC was better team today. They played really well but threw their lead and momentum. They showed why LEC is the best region right now. If FNC is that good then imagine how good G2 is!
Clearly the better team in what way lol? Fnatic looks like LB merchants. TES trolling away one game doesnt mean much. I guess Golden Guardians was on the same level as LPL last MSI because they took one game off BLG in playins right?
Well here's what an actual region looks like vs Asian teams still a loss but at least it was a series. Much more than a NA team with three EU imports can say
@@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL649 The thing is if a korean player is good enough he'll just go into top lck and lpl teams and other than this team's players they're all trash thats why we shouldn't play with koreans in european teams
@baconoftheark I'm saying this cause blg were second seed last MSI and TES is second this MSI.They lost a game to golden guardians at play ins while TES dropped a game to fnc. looked significantly worse than GENG. (Both geng and blg faced g2 and c9 at msi playoffs. Geng did better vs those teams than blg did). But then shocked the whole world by getting 3-0ed by BLG anyways
This time it might be different cause last years BLG didnt really have any MAJOR international chokers. TES has Tian who always shits the bed so we’ll see. Its gonna be fun watching GEN vs Tian, and see who is true choke god. But yea, GEN has yet to defeat an LPL team in a bo5.
@@maxsmith8357 The only Bo5 GenG has ever beaten an LPL team was under the Samsung banner in 2017. They beat World Elite 3-1, and some of the wins weren't convincing lol. GL GenG, don't choke again after you beat T1 in Bo5. GenG regularly lost to Uzi's team for some reason. It seems like Ruler has a mental block against Uzi.
Why is Noah being used as a scapegoat ? Jackeylove played better it's true but people are acting like Noah played horribly all 3 games ? I don't think he played necessarily bad, the team was just not as synced as TES was ultimately..
He couldn't get more than 2 auto attack on any teamfight in the whole 3 games. This was the biggest ADC gap for a fnatic ADC ever. Don't know what you were watching but exchange ADC and this was a clean 2/0
Agreed. I’d say they didn’t manage to play well enough during laning phase in the bottom lane. But I mean they didn’t have the easiest matchup either. Can’t blame it on Noah or botlane solely even though they could have played it better
actually kinda crazy how humanoid dominated mid and how well oscar played considering he isnt even top 3 top lec BB would have steamrolled over 369 no question but sadly noah is a liability as always
That’s not how it works lol. Your argument of player ‘x’ played well vs player ‘y’ and player ‘z’ is better than player ‘x’ so he would have destroyed player ‘y’ completely ignores all the nuances and variance of the game.
@@Kiiiurself8482 not sure if g2 is better then fnc but still very good games from fnc humanoid did good razork oscar jun noah had off day but dont look down on hm this man is rookie after all this is 2 event and frst msi
Overrated? No one is rating them anywhere near BLG or either of the LCK teams. Was BLG last year overrated because they randomly trolled and lost one game to GG in playins?
Humanoid decided to be godlike at LB but completely non-existent at Taliyah😂😂😂😂
subhumanoid moment
The 3rd game was the draft difrence, he was rly hard to play it wel
I hate wen i tp into full team, i know i will die
Humanoid: i gat u bro 21:18
litterally braindead, its like they dont talk
Camille is one of the most beautiful champs when played well. Big time for Oscar
Actually a very good series for europe despite the loss!
Lol
@@mrhefe2322 It was.
We defeating the chinese even in 1 match is good enough and proves we're near the top unlike all the other ones.
yes it is
@@fistofram5526 it's not that bad to mention LCS. i think only NA fans say they better region is when NRG beat G2 last year but no way they can at least win a 1 game in any series against LPL teams
@@fistofram5526 The bar is so low its sad
🛑🛑Spoiler Block 🛑🛑
I don't get it. Fanatic get bot gaped massivly two times but are able to win through solo lanes in second game with humanoid osca and razork on fire. Why would you resort to that draft in game3? Like do you actually want to lose?
Yep draft 3 was criminal when they knew damn well how to beat TES after game 1 and 2
Only reason I can imagine is, that they wanna get practice on those front2b comps against the best Teams in the world. And maybe not show off their best comps/tactics?🤔
@@jony5916 Could be, or there champion pools really are that limited with the viego and xin xao ban maybe rasork had no carry pick left he can play. But that zac top is still somewhat a troll in my eyes.
@@grischnach2556 good point with the early game junglers. Is there anyone else viable right now besides those 2?
@@jony5916 I mean, you have scrim to practice. Best not to do it on a deciding game for main stage qualification lol
But how good is Jun, Noah looked HORRIBLE...
Bring rekkles back xd
@@chancejacobs8708rekkled was worse but indeed Noah ceiling is mediocre ADCs in LEC, FNC needs some young talent (from Europe gtfo with those imports)
@@Kiiiurself8482 don't even need young talent, crownie is sitting teamless right now
@@Kiiiurself8482 both jun and noah are korean... They were playing weakside for the first two games against lucian /nami then a varus/rumble... They were behind but not so much that their solo laners can't carry them. If they were in asian teams, the other solo laners would have been able to win those games. They may not be guma or ghost level in playing weakside but they did well enough not to make the game overly one sided. That third game... humanoids mistake in the early game that net the enemy team 3 kills made it too hard to comeback... especially since he ain't that good as taliyah..
EU's rising talent pool can't get to MSI, so SK rising talent pool went for EU... :/
that humanoid tp cancel was one of the worst plays I've ever seen in pro lol. what the actual fuck was that decision making.
Monkey brain, see TP, neuron activated, interrupt TP.
@@DanielDurham121 yeah 369 was deat at arrival but after humnoid canceld him, 369 killed humanoid. so it was a big difference! look 21:18
@@DanielDurham121wdym, 369 was dead if the tp went through. instead he not only lived, he solo’d humanoid
@@mpee2 I got it backwards watching. I thought Renekton cancelled Taliyah TP.
you see your team fighting top, see you can stop a TP, like you watch the complete scenario, in 99% of the time tp cancle is fight winning
Very impressive plays from humanoid on LB. Shame asian bot gap is too big
except that fnatic literally has two asians in bot
@@vilukmusic Not all Asians are the same
@@GomoGomoNoRocket Yeah, but that's literally why the "asian bot gap" part doesn't work here. xD
bro JUN won second game with that renata wdym
Jun played rly well and in defense of Noah they played losing matchup every single game. Humanoid was fed but on the other side he made some questionable decisions aswell.
Ah man. That Humanoid TP cancel in G3 was such a bad misplay.
Gives the whole responsability of the damage to noah in game 3 was criminal haha man, if bot is getting gaped just give my guy a secure adc like ezreal, and let shine top-mid-jg hahah
I hope that loss was the wakeup call TES needed and they'll be back to the level of play they showed in LPL in the main stage of MSI.
Wierd take but ok 😂😂
Bot gap was insane, Noah is just...yeah
? his lanes got fucked up from early skirmishes that they lost as a team, which just perpetuated the losing lanes he was drafted into. Watch the games next time
@@jungleflame6776 yeah but come on, the guy is down like 50 cs at 10 minutes, thats a bit much even for the circumstances
I think the tp cancel was a miscommunication from EU team, but game 1 and game 2 was a pretty solid series from EU tho
Unironically FNC looked like a better team today, 3rd game was mega draft diff
Bilibili would’ve win with this draft.
@@Paracelsus00 BLG could pick random 5 champs and still beat the every single Western team. They look super strong
BLG win even with Teemo jg against TES, Tian is playing really bad
NOAH CARRIED TES ALL 3 GAMES HAHAHAHAHAHA
MVP TES Noah
I had hope for Fnatic but I'm sure they will qualify and have time to improve, Humanoid proved once again he's one of the best midlaner in the world when he's at his peak. Maybe having a very strong matchup like Camille in Game 2 for Oscar can be a key also.
the fact that fnc even got 1 game out of this series is mindblowing. then 3rd game they choked on so many points...
I have never been literally disgusted by a decision before, but that tp cancel is the first
yeah FNC made mistakes... But honestly proud. Lots of postives too. We come back stronger
Good series from fnatic didn't know they would get a game at least
Creme's Ahri is simply HORRIBLE oh my God
Humanoid smurfing Game 1,2 and inting Game 3
Que grande FNC sacando un mapa que nivel la verdad, esa camile bastante buena buena serie la verdad
What happened to Noah? Man was super gapped every game, like huge liability for his team this series. Jun played out of his mind.
Regardless of the outcome, that's some great League of Legends
Creme's Ahri looked like a gold player locked in challengers lobby.
FNC was better team today. They played really well but threw their lead and momentum. They showed why LEC is the best region right now. If FNC is that good then imagine how good G2 is!
" the best region " XDDD
They played pretty well, but they were clearly not the better team.
You're smoking crack
Clearly the better team in what way lol? Fnatic looks like LB merchants. TES trolling away one game doesnt mean much. I guess Golden Guardians was on the same level as LPL last MSI because they took one game off BLG in playins right?
Ad Carry vs Marksman
How is oscar building visage and mercs into full ad team. Da fuq
Well here's what an actual region looks like vs Asian teams still a loss but at least it was a series. Much more than a NA team with three EU imports can say
I mean T1 is looking far far better than TES thus far. I’m not even an Na fan but this is kind of an L take from you.
How many World titles does TES have compared to T1?
@@Deathbomb247? What does have to do with anything lool
@@ojfeh overall more consistent team compared to TES, I was agreeing with you
If you let K'Sante through during draft you deserve to lose
JKL gets 3 bans every games and still turbogaps up 50cs, damn EU ADCs are ass lol.
noah is korean adc but ok
@@traged77777 point still stands
@@traged77777EU teams should rid off these Korean players. They don't have proper skillset to play in LEC.
@@CapstheTrueGOATofLoL649 The thing is if a korean player is good enough he'll just go into top lck and lpl teams and other than this team's players they're all trash thats why we shouldn't play with koreans in european teams
Geng will still find a way to get 3-0ed by tes
You mean BLG? Actually TES beat GenG at Mid Season Cup xdd. Don't worry GenG will beat T1 somehow
@baconoftheark I'm saying this cause blg were second seed last MSI and TES is second this MSI.They lost a game to golden guardians at play ins while TES dropped a game to fnc. looked significantly worse than GENG. (Both geng and blg faced g2 and c9 at msi playoffs. Geng did better vs those teams than blg did). But then shocked the whole world by getting 3-0ed by BLG anyways
This time it might be different cause last years BLG didnt really have any MAJOR international chokers. TES has Tian who always shits the bed so we’ll see. Its gonna be fun watching GEN vs Tian, and see who is true choke god. But yea, GEN has yet to defeat an LPL team in a bo5.
@@maxsmith8357 The only Bo5 GenG has ever beaten an LPL team was under the Samsung banner in 2017. They beat World Elite 3-1, and some of the wins weren't convincing lol.
GL GenG, don't choke again after you beat T1 in Bo5.
GenG regularly lost to Uzi's team for some reason. It seems like Ruler has a mental block against Uzi.
why draft for bot when you know you can beat them through mid and jg... third game was just pure draft gap
Why is Noah being used as a scapegoat ? Jackeylove played better it's true but people are acting like Noah played horribly all 3 games ? I don't think he played necessarily bad, the team was just not as synced as TES was ultimately..
@@jinmccallister2445 there was a gap but it wasn't "astronomical" and it wasn't the reason they lost this series.
He couldn't get more than 2 auto attack on any teamfight in the whole 3 games. This was the biggest ADC gap for a fnatic ADC ever. Don't know what you were watching but exchange ADC and this was a clean 2/0
Agreed. I’d say they didn’t manage to play well enough during laning phase in the bottom lane. But I mean they didn’t have the easiest matchup either.
Can’t blame it on Noah or botlane solely even though they could have played it better
He was down 50 cs at 14 mins lil bro gap is gap
The thing is jackey is not a hard matchup…
Humanoid wanted TES to win game 3
Let the casters finish their sentences it's kinda jarring to cut between people talking
Noah just too heavy
No need for spoiler block. We all know how this one ends.
3rth game FNC does not have mid.
Humanoid why you cant carry the First game
game 3 was lost cause Humanoid inted so hard not cause Noah played bad
game 3 was draft diff...and it is razork who is inting all the time
actually kinda crazy how humanoid dominated mid and how well oscar played considering he isnt even top 3 top lec BB would have steamrolled over 369 no question but sadly noah is a liability as always
steamrolled is not even close to the right word
That’s not how it works lol. Your argument of player ‘x’ played well vs player ‘y’ and player ‘z’ is better than player ‘x’ so he would have destroyed player ‘y’ completely ignores all the nuances and variance of the game.
@@ojfeh in a skill matchup 369 doesn't have a chance against BB but idk about tank matchup
@@KQRO.cope 😂
@@KQRO. this might be the most delusional and bad take I have seen this month.
who said LEC is Doomed?
T1 vs Fly Game 1 timestamp lol
So many Renata ult wasted on bad position in game 2
Humanoid made too much signifikant mistakes
game3， he made huge mistakes, that’s why.
Marek brázda!!
Tristana IS unfair champ ...
Le kram game 3
no need for spoiler block we all know who was going to win 😂😂😂
Tristana Pick , win the game
TALIYAH IS SO BAD CHAMP OMGGG, IDK WHY THEY KEEP PICK IT
DRAFT DIFF
Razork deserves bettet
Nếu AD FNC chơi tốt tí 😢😢😢 …
ez arcanas
Rekkles 😎😎😎 nếu anh ấy có ở đó
gg koreans botlane inting
Ban LB and easy win on Fnatic
As Mr. Marek "Noob" Brazda says - it will be a 2:1 XDDDDD
If FNC laneswaps they win this bo3 imo . Tes is surely the worst asian team at this MSI
Indeed but still EU 2nd seed almost took CH 2nd haven't seen that in a while gives me hope considering that G2 smashed them in LEC
@@Kiiiurself8482 not sure if g2 is better then fnc but still very good games from fnc humanoid did good razork oscar jun noah had off day but dont look down on hm this man is rookie after all this is 2 event and frst msi
@@stoikakoev780 Oscarinin can be argued. That Sion was pretty useless in game 1.
@@stoikakoev780 G2 dominated FNC in LEC
@@Kiiiurself8482 not only Fnatic. G2 IS EU LEC
Fnatic noobs as always XDDDD
Trade Noah
I'm sorry but this was just a pathetic showing from TES. Fnatic played well don't get me wrong but.. TES is just horribly overrated.
Overrated? No one is rating them anywhere near BLG or either of the LCK teams. Was BLG last year overrated because they randomly trolled and lost one game to GG in playins?
@@maxsmith8357 overrated in the sense that they are way worse than the LPL second seed from last year (BLG)