Solving waste problem and generating energy from bio waste them, is always a win win. Corn ethanol on the other hand is plain stupid. If your going to make ethanol, use switch grass or some other kind of grass from poor production, non fertilizer land systems. Turning good food into fuel is ridiculous. Bio-gas liquifies very well, and is a good replacement for gasoline, converting spark ignition vehicles to Bio-LNG is viable and sensible.
I just want to thank you for all of the times that I have made comments about your videos and you have addressed them, in a positive way. I do like this video format especially the new intro, except for the excerpted bit that is already in the segment that is placed at the very beginning of the video.
Hi Lorraine, we love this idea as well. This particular project may or may not be still operating. However we have covered numerous smaller scale stories over the years that really highlight the benefits of this to farmers and the environment. Here is one of our favourites www.greenenergyfutures.ca/episode/31-biogas-closing-loop-cow-poop The trouble is biogas isn't the most economical way to produce electricity. But we think it's more than economic if we factor in the many benefits which include: new consistent income for farmers, radicle reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from spreading manure, the ability to still spread the digestive and get the same benefits on the farm without the GHGs, reduced odors, and reduced runoff pollution.
Steven Rappolee at some of the UK equivalent plants, the plastic is shredded and goes for “energy recovery” this is basically incineration in a CHP, combined heat and power plant.
Well get enough of them and you can either make material for houses like one company in Colombia or make roof tiles like a company in Africa. th-cam.com/video/m7oUk10rKjE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Zfr0XHYKBvU/w-d-xo.html
Talk about a money loosing/energy wasting operation. The price of diesel, and the cost of turning the corn into ethanol. Only in Canada could it be glossed over so bad to make it look positive. If this is still in operation it is only because it is highly subsidized.
+zhp500 It is not subsidized yet, but it will be soon! $30/metric tonne of CO2 was the last figure I heard. Clean energy cost more then dirty energy :/
Something is not right with the numbers provided: 500 tons = 1,000,000 pounds At (1:40) any one time there are 36,000 head of cattle in their property. 1,000,000 / 36,000 = 27.8 pounds of manure per cattle. This is between 25% to 50% of what I would expect.
Manure does not contain a lot of energy. It’s food that went and got digested through the animal. The manure is mixed with food waste. That’s what creates the energy. I know they said that briefly, but most of the video gives the impression that the manure is energy-rich.
Maybe a little more research in the manure properties. I'm in the Greeley Colorado area building a gas injection site for biogas. Yes it is food that goes in. But the rich manure that fill the digester with H2S gas is only from manure. I just left two sites in NV that are doing the same biogas projects. Only cow manure is used in these digesters.
@@stevenbrent5764 Thanks for the advice. I’m a senior chemical engineer/ project manager who designs and optimized the performance of these and other facilities for a living.
@@stevenbrent5764 You probably meant CH4 not H2S gas. Manure-only facilities function to reduce the BOD of the manure, but can only produce energy if they are processing large volumes of manure.
Ethanol production is 40,000,000 liters per year or 10,580,000 gallons of ethanol. The price per gallon of ethanol is around $1.40 or $14.8-million per year. Add to this whatever amount of electricity they actually feed back into the grid. He said enough electricity for 2,500 homes (@ 04:00). Assuming very efficient homes using 20-kWh per day, this is 18,250,000 kWh per year. At $0.10 per kWh, this is $1,825,000 per year. They, also, add a tipping fee for the municipal waste. They receive about 73,000 tons of municipal waste per year. It converts the manure into potting soil which can be sold to garden stores, and it saves about $0.015 per pound for corn silage. Assuming they provide 20% of daily feed as corn silage, this is (20% x 35-pounds x 36,000 x 365 x $0.015) = $1,380,000. Together it is about $18,000,000 add $10 (my estimate) per ton of municipal waste or $730,000, and add another $0.01 (my estimate) per pound of dirt sold to garden stores ($0.01 x 365 x 1,000,000 = $3,650,000), and the numbers become even larger.
It's great that not all countries in North America are wasting 730 football stadiums of raw material a year, like a certain country located inbetween Canada and Mexico.
Wow! I will like to replicate this in my country Ghana where sewage waste management companies still secretly dump sewage into the sea. certainly, my futuristic minded president, William Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo will definitely welcome the multiplication of the worthy project in west Africa Ghana.
AT least around here they don't get raised in a feed lot. They only go to the feed lots for the last few weeks before slaughter to fatten them up a bit. It's a for pay service. I agree that all grass fed i tastier and better for you.
All these animals are raised for hundreds of days so that they can be eaten for one day. All of the food grains which was wasted into feeding them could have been utilised for producing human food. This would be more greener than this stupid virtuous cycle.
VY, don't want to be against human food products but taking grain that was waste and cow poop to make human food products is not very appealing. I work for a company that builds biodigesters for dairy farms none of the cows are eaten but the milk is drunk by all Americans who drinks milk as well as use the power to heat their homes and has the capability of being converted into automobiles engine fuel. No beef here are being eaten, just milked.
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Loves These biogas videos. I created my own biogas right at home a small biogas i built very cheap. i actual run a two small motors with the biogas .
Sustainable Agriculture and Truly amazing technology.
Great content, apppreciate you to please enable captions to understand words accent clearly.
mining that corn subsidy system.
Solving waste problem and generating energy from bio waste them, is always a win win. Corn ethanol on the other hand is plain stupid. If your going to make ethanol, use switch grass or some other kind of grass from poor production, non fertilizer land systems. Turning good food into fuel is ridiculous. Bio-gas liquifies very well, and is a good replacement for gasoline, converting spark ignition vehicles to Bio-LNG is viable and sensible.
I just want to thank you for all of the times that I have made comments about your videos and you have addressed them, in a positive way.
I do like this video format especially the new intro, except for the excerpted bit that is already in the segment that is placed at the very beginning of the video.
How ethanol is extract from bio mass?
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got to put the numbers in the description how many tons of poop how much power how much compost how much ethanol
This is trully amazing ,and I would like to learn more as am a farmer
Hi Lorraine, we love this idea as well. This particular project may or may not be still operating. However we have covered numerous smaller scale stories over the years that really highlight the benefits of this to farmers and the environment. Here is one of our favourites www.greenenergyfutures.ca/episode/31-biogas-closing-loop-cow-poop The trouble is biogas isn't the most economical way to produce electricity. But we think it's more than economic if we factor in the many benefits which include: new consistent income for farmers, radicle reduction in greenhouse gas emissions from spreading manure, the ability to still spread the digestive and get the same benefits on the farm without the GHGs, reduced odors, and reduced runoff pollution.
what becomes of the plastic bags in the municipal waste stream ?
Steven Rappolee at some of the UK equivalent plants, the plastic is shredded and goes for “energy recovery” this is basically incineration in a CHP, combined heat and power plant.
Well get enough of them and you can either make material for houses like one company in Colombia or make roof tiles like a company in Africa. th-cam.com/video/m7oUk10rKjE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Zfr0XHYKBvU/w-d-xo.html
Gasification or Thermal Depolymerization might work
What is the latest with this project?
How come there is so much plastic and nobody is talking about it :(
Talk about a money loosing/energy wasting operation. The price of diesel, and the cost of turning the corn into ethanol. Only in Canada could it be glossed over so bad to make it look positive. If this is still in operation it is only because it is highly subsidized.
+zhp500 It is not subsidized yet, but it will be soon! $30/metric tonne of CO2 was the last figure I heard. Clean energy cost more then dirty energy :/
Tell me you don't know anything about biogas technology, without telling me you know what you are talking about. Go.
Ok you did - great job.
Something is not right with the numbers provided:
500 tons = 1,000,000 pounds
At (1:40) any one time there are 36,000 head of cattle in their property.
1,000,000 / 36,000 = 27.8 pounds of manure per cattle. This is between 25% to 50% of what I would expect.
They add food waste
Manure does not contain a lot of energy. It’s food that went and got digested through the animal. The manure is mixed with food waste. That’s what creates the energy. I know they said that briefly, but most of the video gives the impression that the manure is energy-rich.
Maybe a little more research in the manure properties. I'm in the Greeley Colorado area building a gas injection site for biogas. Yes it is food that goes in. But the rich manure that fill the digester with H2S gas is only from manure. I just left two sites in NV that are doing the same biogas projects. Only cow manure is used in these digesters.
@@stevenbrent5764
Thanks for the advice.
I’m a senior chemical engineer/ project manager who designs and optimized the performance of these and other facilities for a living.
@@stevenbrent5764
You probably meant CH4 not H2S gas.
Manure-only facilities function to reduce the BOD of the manure, but can only produce energy if they are processing large volumes of manure.
3:18 all hail the council of fresh beef
How can i get this technology? I am from Bangladesh,,
India has this experiment going. Can get info from india youtube
There is a reason that corn silage costs a fourth of corn grain.
i can't wait to try it
I am a study with a mission related to this please anyone mentor me, please
Shame it only works when subsidised.
That’ll change if we get taxed on the carbon we produce either individually or the businesses we run.
Ethanol production is 40,000,000 liters per year or 10,580,000 gallons of ethanol.
The price per gallon of ethanol is around $1.40 or $14.8-million per year.
Add to this whatever amount of electricity they actually feed back into the grid. He said enough electricity for 2,500 homes (@ 04:00). Assuming very efficient homes using 20-kWh per day, this is 18,250,000 kWh per year. At $0.10 per kWh, this is $1,825,000 per year.
They, also, add a tipping fee for the municipal waste. They receive about 73,000 tons of municipal waste per year.
It converts the manure into potting soil which can be sold to garden stores, and it saves about $0.015 per pound for corn silage.
Assuming they provide 20% of daily feed as corn silage, this is (20% x 35-pounds x 36,000 x 365 x $0.015) = $1,380,000.
Together it is about $18,000,000 add $10 (my estimate) per ton of municipal waste or $730,000, and add another $0.01 (my estimate) per pound of dirt sold to garden stores ($0.01 x 365 x 1,000,000 = $3,650,000), and the numbers become even larger.
It's great that not all countries in North America are wasting 730 football stadiums of raw material a year, like a certain country located inbetween Canada and Mexico.
Wow!
I will like to replicate this in my country Ghana where sewage waste management companies still secretly dump sewage into the sea.
certainly, my futuristic minded president, William Addo Dankwa Akufo-Addo will definitely welcome the multiplication of the worthy project in west Africa Ghana.
There is one more part in the cycle that you are sadly missing.
If you don't mind sharing what would be the missing part in this cycle?
Love all of this except the feedlots. Horrific way to raise cattle.
AT least around here they don't get raised in a feed lot. They only go to the feed lots for the last few weeks before slaughter to fatten them up a bit. It's a for pay service. I agree that all grass fed i tastier and better for you.
DublinDapper: Feedlots is made from grain.
replace feedlot with a tick toc pasture dairy system. you will feel better. i really wish they haven't picked a feedlot
raging pro oil nut (you wouldn't hav any of this with oil) but the tractors are still running on diesel how you going to get to work there?
Who's going to pay for this carbon they want to put a price on??
Nothing waste
FYI feedlots are horrible for the environment
All these animals are raised for hundreds of days so that they can be eaten for one day. All of the food grains which was wasted into feeding them could have been utilised for producing human food. This would be more greener than this stupid virtuous cycle.
They eat none eatable food products.
VY, don't want to be against human food products but taking grain that was waste and cow poop to make human food products is not very appealing. I work for a company that builds biodigesters for dairy farms none of the cows are eaten but the milk is drunk by all Americans who drinks milk as well as use the power to heat their homes and has the capability of being converted into automobiles engine fuel. No beef here are being eaten, just milked.
@@stevenbrent5764 That's a really a good model. I hope i could visit such a place.
i can't wait to try it