I hunted for years with a Handi-Rifle 45-70, handloaded. I wore jeans, a flannel shirt, and boots leftover from my AF Security Police days, no calls, no deer stand, I built a blind with branches propped on/over a downed tree. Also, no pickup. I put a tarp in the trunk of my used Galant and stuffed the deer in the trunk. I did pay for processing, so I'm fancy that way.
Ron, I'm a falling block rifle fan like you. I got started early in life. My dad came home one day in 1977 with a Browning B78 in 25-06. I was only 7 years old but I fell in love with that rifle and when I got old enough to start hunting. I kind of took over his rifle until I was forbidden to use it anymore.😅 I bought my first single shot big game rifle in 2010. It was a used Ruger No.1 that had been rebarreled to .35 Whelen and I used it to take a 53.5 inch BC Canada bull moose the next year. (I'm lucky to have been born and raised here) My second single shot rifle was another Ruger No.1 in 45-70 that I bought in 2013. I bought 2 more this year the first one is CVA Scout in .444 Marlin and the second one is a rifle I've been looking for for many years but was never able to afford until 3 weeks ago. I was in my local gun shop, and in their consignment rack was a beautiful Browning 1885 45-70 that was unfired. It followed home even though I tried to make it stay in the store.😅 I love your content and keep it up, please.
I’ve been using my grand father’s components as he gave me his reloading stuff. He had 5 unopened cans of H4831.. they are in tin cans with paper wrapping around instead of the vinyl stickers used today. I used it in combination with some old lead nose .270 hornady bullets which had a price tag of 7:39$ so I know they are old lol. I made a load for my friends savage axis in 270 win which put 3 into a cloverleaf at 100! I couldn’t believe it
While you're talking about the 22s back in the '70s and '80s, I still remember being a kid. Yes I'm 59 years old! My dad having Remington yellow jacket 22s and thought they were so cool looking at that box!
The Sauer 100 is sold in the USA new in 8x57; I use a Kar98k in 8x57 for hog hunting. Badace Tactical has a rear sight mount that lets you use a standard eye relief scope without modifying the rifle.
My primary hunting rifle for the past 20 years has been .280 Remington Model 700 Mountain Rifle. While I love .280 Remington, the difficulty in finding factory ammo is enough reason choose 7mm-08 instead. I have never found that 7mm-08 ammo is difficult to find, almost every shop has a few options available.
Well, back in the 1980's, in NY, when I went to school there. bought an old Jeep CJ5, and topographical maps of public land. Would pick a spot, and Friday after school head out there. Old Tent, a Tarp, Coleman lamp and stove, Cooler sandwiches, Pick a Cord of wood allong the road. Non Hunting season, pick a stream or lake, and go fishing
Where I live, the cheapest and simplest hunts are following: hare (following the tracks is easier during winter), partridge (it's easier when you have a dog or friends to help), hazel grouse (all you need is a gun and a call). Right now I'm interested in hunting crows because pretty much any other kind of wildlife is either hiding and resting when I manage to reach the wilderness or has been pretty much scared off or killed by people and crows. Gotta learn how to use the calls
27:19 there’s more to the story of Scott at Kentucky ballistics. It was a Serbu rifle. Scott and Mark Serbu both have multiple videos on what they surmise might have gone wrong, so if you’re interested in that, you should look up and watch their videos. Of course, there’s more to it beyond that, as a friend who was a vet in the GWOT has told me that there were apparently very specific chamber dimensions that were required for .50BMG SLAP ammo. I can’t confirm that myself, but I have no other reason to doubt what he has to say.
I have the Savage b-mag Target rifle, I get an inch at one hundred yards. I shoot the Winchester 20 grain. Which I shoot and cite my gun in at 40 yd for squirrels! And yes you want to take headshots with this gun! And before the pandemic I bought 10 boxes of that 20 grain and I had some boxes of 25 grain, which I was paying $12 a box at Walmart for them and everybody else was at 17 or 15 bucks. I don't even remember anymore. And it's hard to find anymore under 20 or $25 a box. But I still like that rifle.
Hi Ron, another question for you. I have a .44 mag and a .356 Win. In both of them, I have to use a bullet with a cannelure because of SAAMI chamber OAL. They were designed years ago, in some cases before all these newer bullets came on the scene. How do you adjust seating depth with a cannelure? Answer: You don't! So how does a person adjust for different size and shape of bullets? The way I see it, about the only thing we can do as reloaders is adjust the powder charge and in many cases (no pun intended), that's not much wiggle room. Any suggestions?
I have a Yugo M48 8mm. Smooth shooting action. Mint condition serial numbers matching. Never use it for hunting( open sights hard on my eyes) Lol! Cannot wait for the video.
Zimbo 1212. A box of ammo riding in a truck for years will get powder ground to dust. Absolute overpressure. Pull the bullets and reload with the propper charge
Just purchased my first reloading press. I'm loading 6.5 creedmoor with 120 grain cx bullets im getting consistent 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards what size game should i limit myself too? My average speed is 2925
I maintain a small but functional utility collection of rifles and calibers. Small game is pretty much 22LR and 22Mag. I own a few more calibers for medium and big game but my main 2 are 30-30 and 270. I'm at the point (after 35+ years of hunting) where I'd kinda like to get something with a flatter trajectory to 500 yards. Just not sure what to go with in a magnum for it. I'm liking a lot of what I'm seeing in the 7mm/ .280 calibers. I'm stuck trying to choose between the 280 Ackley, 7PRC, or 7 rem mag. This would be my new do-all rifle for everything big game beyond 200 yards. Is there enough difference to make a difference to an elk? Is there enough difference in drop, drift, and energy to matter out at 500 yards ? Lastly, is there much difference in ammo availability and cost between these 3?
Rem Mag and PRC are neck and neck in MV, but Rem Mag ammo likely to be more abundant and in variety. 280 Ackley rare but fine if you handload. I'd go Rem Mag.
@jaydunbar7538 not in my case, I lost a fine piece of land because a guy fell out of a tree stand he had hung years before and not kept up on and broke his neck. The lawyers went to his wife and kids after the funeral and convinced them to sue the farmer that owned the land and the farmer had to give up that 160 acres to pay off the debt. Ambulance chasing Lawyer was exactly what I meant.
Not really comparable, since the 308 will be running several hundred fps faster (over 500 fps faster, according to Barnes)*. It would work fine at shorter distances, though. Figure 1800 fps opening speed to work out effective range. 115 grains for a copper bullet is pretty large for a Grendel and will eat into powder capacity. Copper is less dense than lead, so copper bullets are physically larger for the same weight. The 115 ttsx is about the same size as a 130 grain cup and core, for comparison. I have heard more about the 100 grain TTSX and Grendels. The 105 grain Cavity Back is also a highly regarded copper bullet for the Grendel and opens at lower velocities and longer ranges.. *Looking at Barnes Factory ammo from 24" barrels, the 115 TTSX Grendel claims 2590 fps and the 130 TTSX 308 claims 3125 fps.
Not even close, the 308 will have 600+ fps on the Grendel so better trajectory and a bigger bullet in every way. The only thing the Grendel has is less recoil and it’s not like either are exactly hard recoiling cartridges. The only thing I’d worry about is ensuring enough velocity at 200 yards for the projectiles to work properly, no issue at all for the 308 but the Grendel isn’t starting out much over the minimum speed Barnes lists for most projectiles. May not be an issue but it’s something I’d recommend checking into, Barnes does make some specialty projectiles for slower cartridges so if they are factory loaded it’s likely not an issue.
Camo works and I wear it, but it’s not completely necessary. If you want to save some money, I’d say skip it for now. I’ve worked with the Amish and they haven’t worn a lick of camo ever and their hunts are successful.
Velocity, mass, and bullet construction are all important. The one that’s most important is the one that Is lacking in your setup. You don’t need 2000fps impact velocity, you can kill an animal with a rock, but the little bullet at a high speed will be much more effective. Even a 45-70 is a speed demon compared to throwing rocks. The fact is speeds over 2000fps create permanent damage well outside the bullet path causing exsanguination to happen faster. But 2000 fps doesn’t do any good if the bullet doesn’t have the weight or construction to carry that speed through the animal and just explodes on the shoulder blade. Everything counts, you need enough of it all to get the job done effectively. And speed absolutely counts, the American taxpayers have spent hundreds of millions to do mass testing on animals along side comparisons to war casualty data, if possible hit the animal at excess of 2000fps and do that with the biggest heaviest bullet with good expansion and you will have a very lethal package. You will also have a tremendous amount of recoil, and that’s really what this discussion should be about. What is the most effective option within the recoil the person is willing to tolerate. That’s why things like 243 work so great on deer, they maintain the velocity and have a big enough bullet to get the penetration needed on the size game they are typically used for, of course assuming an appropriate bullet selection for the shot placement used.
speaking of spillover,that goes both ways if you have a property and you put let's say alfalfa and maybe a couple salt licks then the deer you have been grooming for a year 2- 4 maybe you'll feel a little different when they jump onto somebody else's property and they get shot years
They’re not your deer. They can go where they want obviously they’re using the other land for a reason. If could force them to stay on yours they would be livestock. So go lick your salt block
New to hunting and especially bolt action shooting. Soaking up all the info I can before next years deer season.
You’re in the right place!
Welcome
It's deer season now (in most places); get out and give it a 'shot'!
I hunted for years with a Handi-Rifle 45-70, handloaded. I wore jeans, a flannel shirt, and boots leftover from my AF Security Police days, no calls, no deer stand, I built a blind with branches propped on/over a downed tree. Also, no pickup. I put a tarp in the trunk of my used Galant and stuffed the deer in the trunk.
I did pay for processing, so I'm fancy that way.
Ron, I'm a falling block rifle fan like you. I got started early in life. My dad came home one day in 1977 with a Browning B78 in 25-06. I was only 7 years old but I fell in love with that rifle and when I got old enough to start hunting. I kind of took over his rifle until I was forbidden to use it anymore.😅 I bought my first single shot big game rifle in 2010. It was a used Ruger No.1 that had been rebarreled to .35 Whelen and I used it to take a 53.5 inch BC Canada bull moose the next year. (I'm lucky to have been born and raised here) My second single shot rifle was another Ruger No.1 in 45-70 that I bought in 2013. I bought 2 more this year the first one is CVA Scout in .444 Marlin and the second one is a rifle I've been looking for for many years but was never able to afford until 3 weeks ago. I was in my local gun shop, and in their consignment rack was a beautiful Browning 1885 45-70 that was unfired. It followed home even though I tried to make it stay in the store.😅 I love your content and keep it up, please.
I’ve been using my grand father’s components as he gave me his reloading stuff. He had 5 unopened cans of H4831.. they are in tin cans with paper wrapping around instead of the vinyl stickers used today. I used it in combination with some old lead nose .270 hornady bullets which had a price tag of 7:39$ so I know they are old lol. I made a load for my friends savage axis in 270 win which put 3 into a cloverleaf at 100! I couldn’t believe it
While you're talking about the 22s back in the '70s and '80s, I still remember being a kid. Yes I'm 59 years old! My dad having Remington yellow jacket 22s and thought they were so cool looking at that box!
The Sauer 100 is sold in the USA new in 8x57; I use a Kar98k in 8x57 for hog hunting. Badace Tactical has a rear sight mount that lets you use a standard eye relief scope without modifying the rifle.
My primary hunting rifle for the past 20 years has been .280 Remington Model 700 Mountain Rifle. While I love .280 Remington, the difficulty in finding factory ammo is enough reason choose 7mm-08 instead. I have never found that 7mm-08 ammo is difficult to find, almost every shop has a few options available.
Well, back in the 1980's, in NY, when I went to school there. bought an old Jeep CJ5, and topographical maps of public land. Would pick a spot, and Friday after school head out there. Old Tent, a Tarp, Coleman lamp and stove, Cooler sandwiches, Pick a Cord of wood allong the road. Non Hunting season, pick a stream or lake, and go fishing
30:29 trust me Ron, you just cannot kill a torx bear with a Phillips head bullet.
beautiful elk photo.
PS - send a copy to the US Copyright Office
Where I live, the cheapest and simplest hunts are following: hare (following the tracks is easier during winter), partridge (it's easier when you have a dog or friends to help), hazel grouse (all you need is a gun and a call).
Right now I'm interested in hunting crows because pretty much any other kind of wildlife is either hiding and resting when I manage to reach the wilderness or has been pretty much scared off or killed by people and crows. Gotta learn how to use the calls
Beautiful knife Ron. Out of my price range but it’s a good price for a premium steel knife made in the USA.
I just started shooting hammerbullets this year and love them
That's an awesome looking knife!
27:19 there’s more to the story of Scott at Kentucky ballistics. It was a Serbu rifle. Scott and Mark Serbu both have multiple videos on what they surmise might have gone wrong, so if you’re interested in that, you should look up and watch their videos. Of course, there’s more to it beyond that, as a friend who was a vet in the GWOT has told me that there were apparently very specific chamber dimensions that were required for .50BMG SLAP ammo. I can’t confirm that myself, but I have no other reason to doubt what he has to say.
I have the Savage b-mag Target rifle, I get an inch at one hundred yards. I shoot the Winchester 20 grain. Which I shoot and cite my gun in at 40 yd for squirrels! And yes you want to take headshots with this gun! And before the pandemic I bought 10 boxes of that 20 grain and I had some boxes of 25 grain, which I was paying $12 a box at Walmart for them and everybody else was at 17 or 15 bucks. I don't even remember anymore. And it's hard to find anymore under 20 or $25 a box. But I still like that rifle.
Hi Ron, another question for you. I have a .44 mag and a .356 Win. In both of them, I have to use a bullet with a cannelure because of SAAMI chamber OAL. They were designed years ago, in some cases before all these newer bullets came on the scene. How do you adjust seating depth with a cannelure? Answer: You don't! So how does a person adjust for different size and shape of bullets? The way I see it, about the only thing we can do as reloaders is adjust the powder charge and in many cases (no pun intended), that's not much wiggle room. Any suggestions?
51:42 dang, Ron, that’s a beautiful photo. Did use use medium format, digital? 35mm?
8mm Mauser s+b 196 gr is a nice performance round for any deer and probably moose or bears. I look forward to hearing the discussion.
I have a Yugo M48 8mm. Smooth shooting action. Mint condition serial numbers matching. Never use it for hunting( open sights hard on my eyes) Lol! Cannot wait for the video.
@ I have a m48 and I’m thinking about putting a fiber optic tube on top of the front post
Ron, how would a brush remove enough medal to make the chamber oblong?
Hey Ron I been hunting on a budget for the last 40 years !……..😂
And with the 17wsm I just shot a coyote at 160 yd off hand. That was range fine. After the fact one shot in the chest down it went
Zimbo 1212. A box of ammo riding in a truck for years will get powder ground to dust. Absolute overpressure. Pull the bullets and reload with the propper charge
Scott’s accident was recreated, the way they were able to do it was 190,000 psi with pistol powder to cause the failure.
Amazing
Just purchased my first reloading press. I'm loading 6.5 creedmoor with 120 grain cx bullets im getting consistent 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards what size game should i limit myself too? My average speed is 2925
rossi got a single shot rifle that is dirt cheap , seen some good reviews on it
what 22 rifle would you recommend for small game hunting
I maintain a small but functional utility collection of rifles and calibers.
Small game is pretty much 22LR and 22Mag.
I own a few more calibers for medium and big game but my main 2 are 30-30 and 270.
I'm at the point (after 35+ years of hunting) where I'd kinda like to get something with a flatter trajectory to 500 yards. Just not sure what to go with in a magnum for it.
I'm liking a lot of what I'm seeing in the 7mm/ .280 calibers.
I'm stuck trying to choose between the 280 Ackley, 7PRC, or 7 rem mag.
This would be my new do-all rifle for everything big game beyond 200 yards.
Is there enough difference to make a difference to an elk?
Is there enough difference in drop, drift, and energy to matter out at 500 yards ?
Lastly, is there much difference in ammo availability and cost between these 3?
Rem Mag and PRC are neck and neck in MV, but Rem Mag ammo likely to be more abundant and in variety. 280 Ackley rare but fine if you handload. I'd go Rem Mag.
I want to learn to hunt. Beginning through processing. Are there any experiences that will teach and not do?
I understand that "Shorts" get lots of views. Mostly because people have very short attention spans. I much prefer full length videos
The land problem started when LAWYERS, started seeing land owners when a hunter got hurt on their land.
Lawyer aren’t the ones that do it, the person that you allowed on your land is the one that tells the lawyer to file that lawsuit.
@jaydunbar7538 not in my case, I lost a fine piece of land because a guy fell out of a tree stand he had hung years before and not kept up on and broke his neck. The lawyers went to his wife and kids after the funeral and convinced them to sue the farmer that owned the land and the farmer had to give up that 160 acres to pay off the debt. Ambulance chasing Lawyer was exactly what I meant.
8x57IS is still chambered by most/ all european rifle manufacturers.
I just bought a new Merkel 8x57IS yesterday 😂
In the area i hunt 8x57IS are more common than the 270 win and the 30-06.
If I spent that on a knife I’d never want to carry it
Is the 6.5 grendel 115g Barnes ttsx out of a 20" barrel comparable to a 308 win 130g Barnes ttsx same length barrel? Son has 308, I have a 6.5 grendel
Btw...its for deer and hog inside 200 yards
Not really comparable, since the 308 will be running several hundred fps faster (over 500 fps faster, according to Barnes)*. It would work fine at shorter distances, though. Figure 1800 fps opening speed to work out effective range. 115 grains for a copper bullet is pretty large for a Grendel and will eat into powder capacity. Copper is less dense than lead, so copper bullets are physically larger for the same weight. The 115 ttsx is about the same size as a 130 grain cup and core, for comparison. I have heard more about the 100 grain TTSX and Grendels. The 105 grain Cavity Back is also a highly regarded copper bullet for the Grendel and opens at lower velocities and longer ranges..
*Looking at Barnes Factory ammo from 24" barrels, the 115 TTSX Grendel claims 2590 fps and the 130 TTSX 308 claims 3125 fps.
Not even close, the 308 will have 600+ fps on the Grendel so better trajectory and a bigger bullet in every way. The only thing the Grendel has is less recoil and it’s not like either are exactly hard recoiling cartridges.
The only thing I’d worry about is ensuring enough velocity at 200 yards for the projectiles to work properly, no issue at all for the 308 but the Grendel isn’t starting out much over the minimum speed Barnes lists for most projectiles. May not be an issue but it’s something I’d recommend checking into, Barnes does make some specialty projectiles for slower cartridges so if they are factory loaded it’s likely not an issue.
Camo works and I wear it, but it’s not completely necessary. If you want to save some money, I’d say skip it for now. I’ve worked with the Amish and they haven’t worn a lick of camo ever and their hunts are successful.
Velocity, mass, and bullet construction are all important. The one that’s most important is the one that Is lacking in your setup. You don’t need 2000fps impact velocity, you can kill an animal with a rock, but the little bullet at a high speed will be much more effective. Even a 45-70 is a speed demon compared to throwing rocks. The fact is speeds over 2000fps create permanent damage well outside the bullet path causing exsanguination to happen faster. But 2000 fps doesn’t do any good if the bullet doesn’t have the weight or construction to carry that speed through the animal and just explodes on the shoulder blade. Everything counts, you need enough of it all to get the job done effectively. And speed absolutely counts, the American taxpayers have spent hundreds of millions to do mass testing on animals along side comparisons to war casualty data, if possible hit the animal at excess of 2000fps and do that with the biggest heaviest bullet with good expansion and you will have a very lethal package. You will also have a tremendous amount of recoil, and that’s really what this discussion should be about. What is the most effective option within the recoil the person is willing to tolerate. That’s why things like 243 work so great on deer, they maintain the velocity and have a big enough bullet to get the penetration needed on the size game they are typically used for, of course assuming an appropriate bullet selection for the shot placement used.
It was a over loaded round to much power 😮
Awesome channel
speaking of spillover,that goes both ways if you have a property and you put let's say alfalfa and maybe a couple salt licks then the deer you have been grooming for a year 2- 4 maybe you'll feel a little different when they jump onto somebody else's property and they get shot years
They’re not your deer. They can go where they want obviously they’re using the other land for a reason. If could force them to stay on yours they would be livestock. So go lick your salt block
And with the 17wsm I just shot a coyote at 160 yd off hand. That was range fine. After the fact one shot in the chest down it went