is ForzaTune Pro a Scam? + ACTUAL FH5 Tuning Guide in Description
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- The most updated, comprehensive, and accurate tuning guide for Forza Horizon 5, 100% free of charge: docs.google.co...
ForzaTune Pro is a mobile app available for Android & IOS. This app is a tuning calculator that claims to instantly make tunes that are seconds faster than the default tune in Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon games. So after 10,000 downloads and a rating of 4.6, is this app really doing what it's promising to do?
#FH5 #ForzaHorizon5
i'm gonna put the fh5 tuning guide here since i unlisted the original video: docs.google.com/document/d/15RXLp2gUgT9vpQIV0857KrpWZnctGA36RfsnTM-PJ3A/
I love how you never miss an opportunity to dis Ugrundy's tunes. 'Even garbage tuners like Ugrundy' should be heard in every video you upload from now on 🤣🤣
lol
I agree
Lmao
Ugrundy is garbage.
Well, he for most part just AWD swaps everything, and adds parts at random until points level with class limit. This is like, baby's first "quick and dirty" seasonal tune.
The more I watch your videos the more i'm convinced it is literally impossible for anyone to make a good tune
try mine; gt fairlane305
good tunes do exist
There are plenty of good tunes, just keep an eye on the best tuners.
The point is that it is impossible to create the perfect tune, which will extract 100% of the car's performance, that will never happen.
@@Nilphrax Well said. I think the issue here is the myth of "one optimal tune." A guide or an app or other tool is just a way to get closer to that goal--hopefully with less trial and error.
@@ForzaTune dont forget the driver's driving style too
Never heard of this app and glad I didn't. Still learning how to tune bit by bit and that's thanks to sp4 and hoki
we need an app that gives us the best community tune for each car ;P
Well now I’m definetly not tuning! All I need is Final Drive and Tire Pressure. Everything else can be stock tuned.
I see @ForzaTune commenting a lot and defending. Instead of all this back and forth, why don't we have @SP4 and the maker of ForzaTune make 4 builds for 4 cars for the 4 different racing disciplines and use them on 4 different tracks. Test them and also release those tunes to the public as well to avoid any potential accusations of bias from testers. If the maker of ForzaTune is claiming his app is merely starting point, then let him finish each tune personally and judge that. If @ForzaTune still loses, that should be irrefutable evidence that the very foundation of the app doesn't work in FH5.
Yeah from the tone of this guy, it's clear that he has some in built biases.
I’ve been using ForzaTune pro and every tune is better than default so that’s all the evidence I need
Same. Maybe the guy who made the video just isn't that good of a driver.
Abit late to the party but i use this app and it is actually pretty good for a basetune. Why would you just keep the tune it gives you, it even says to play with it abit. For me i always got frustrated with the suspension setting and this has honestly helped alot… plus everyone drives differently….so imo there isnt any good tunes. I’ve downloaded a few tunes from “Top tuners” but honestly they suck but thats only because i drive different to them….. its a tool not a savior 😂
you're better off with stock settings
what i will say about forzatune i bought it just to give it a try and maybe ide learn something. First things first if you messed up your car in the upgrades section then you can only polish a turd so much. I used forzatune as a base tune with great success the cars handle like a dream but now that i have learned about some of the mistakes i was making in my own tuning i have improved on forzatunes and now i dont use the app unless im feeling lazy and want a quick base tune. It doesnt hit the nail on the head every time but damn close usually only need minute changes based on driving preference. I will say pick the right tire compound for your class and use a square tire setup (even width all around) upgrade all suspension components. Forzatune will accommodate a setup like that because its not anticipating all the understeer created from wide rear tires.
Actually I used this a year ago for Forza horizon 4 and it's definitely good as long you know what you are doing
Any updates on getting your tunes back online sepi? I really like the way your tunes feel and its quite the pain to find tunes now with all your previous ones gone with the ban.
Great video. Can you also make a video about the Quicktune H5 calculator? Or perhaps you already test the Quicktune H5 one and it sucks too
I got the advert for the ForzaTune app before this video.
Forzatune has been around since like FM4. I can guarantee you they haven't changed any of the formulas that generate the tunes. Just some UI updates and whatnot to make sure it works for newer phones. It's never been good.
i bet you nothing has changed
@@zerozero_73 I can guarantee you nothing has changed.
Lots of formula updates including a major, ground-up rewrite of everything. You can read about them on the blog.
@@ForzaTune Idk why you're trying to save face on a video that proves how bad your product is.
Like, this isn't your channel where you get to have (likely fake) testimonials as every comment. You're 100% exposed here.
@@xshadowsbanex7249 It's much better than scamming people out of real world money for shit tunes, isn't it? It's not like I don't know why Sepi has been banned.
i tried to use that app to fine tune (no pun intended) and realized my tune was way better, eventually i uninstalled the app
I left a 1* on that app. I believe I said something along the lines of every tune was unusable and produced snap oversteer. The creator responded but my response was basically "You got my 5 bucks, good job."
Didn't I offer you a refund? C'mon now.
@@ForzaTune No, you didn't, but I also didn't reply to you. You offered to go over the tune and try to sort it out, but after fiddling with it for the better part of two days and getting no results... I was fed up, irritated and had to go back to work. It was uninstalled and forgotten until now.
@@FakeJeep Appreciate the reply here, and still happy to help if possible or send me an email for a refund.
Do u use wheel or controller? Cause on a wheel I find every tune is far more stable and way easier to drive than the base tune
Impossible challenge: Take a shot everytime he says tune
I have been playing forza since the beginning: version 1 to 8. I started to use the app for a week and instantly all my cars are having more grip and handling is much more better! I do not understand why you are getting slower results. I assume it is not good for the Horizon series. I never used that app for horizon but only for Forza Motorsport 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8. You should test it on original Forza and not Horizon. I always felt that horizon série feel more like an arcade games unlike Forza Motorsport series.
The car you ran was the 2012 gt2 but the car in the app said 1995 gt2. The app still sucks but did you guys maybe enter the wrong car for the first test?
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Nvm I see the note at the top of the screen
What's the tune on that offroad car in the beginning? Very bouncy, looks fun
set bump to max and rebound to minimum on any car
the fact that theres still people trying to treat forza HORIZON, a simcade, like real life is astounding.
inb4 someone applies real life settings to burnout or mario kart
:omegalul:
You can start with physics because that's what the developers start with, and it makes tuning adjustments more predictable and reliable.
@@ForzaTune
so did burnout start with realistic physics?
did need for speed start with realistic physics?
heck then the nfs shift games are simcades, yet you dont see a 6 dollar scam app trying to provide advice for an obviously unrealistic (from a physics standpoint) game.
plus you should know by now that while fh5 may try to be realistic, its very far from so, and you shouldnt treat it as an "omg super realistic" game in terms of tuning
get your head out of your ass and learn bruh
@@destrudot You might be interested in the history of Forza Tech physics engine. Hilarious Forza bugs != unrealistic assumptions on the part of the developers.
You say the values from the app are almost the same as stock, but then you tell that it is way slower? How should that even be possible?
The app makes your car stiffer or not based on the wight. A light car always gets stiffer and a heavy car gets less stiff, which is completely fine. The app does not create a final tune, it is just a basic tune and you need to adjust the parts you don't like.
You complain about understeer, when you build a muscle car with AWD swap and probably did not even adjust the differential.
How should this app tell you how much downforce you need? If you drive a small city track you need other values compared to a sprint with long fast corners. Btw nobody likes to used Forza-splitter and Forza-spoiler, so no reason to adjust it anyway.
Yeah, I agree with this one. I have no idea how suspension works and ForzaTune, at the very least, helps me tune my car the way I want it to handle for more over- or understeer. And I hate using Forza splitters/wings, they look so ugly on many cars lol
Looking forward to your updated guide!
So that explains why the origin of the Challenger and 350Z tunes were initially withheld during the testing phase.
At this point, I need the forza team to give us some answers.
I have bought it for myself for the fm5, fm6 and fh4 and i think i was faster, can you maybe try the other games because i think i was faster there. Or this is massive copium
the only reason ur ban isn't permanent is so they can see how else you're cheating. I can't believe I respected u
there's literally nothing wrong with unlocking cars early lol, it's not like he used them online.
i couldnt listen to “chune” for that long
Brilliant video.
I mean someone had to say it, might as well be SP4 :).
new tuning guide yes please!
got a forzatune ad right before this 🤣🤣
what a surprise , but someone make some serious money on this...
I think I'll just stick to roll bars, brakes, and a diff. LoL
I got advertised Forza tune pro before watching this 😂
interesting. i use forzatuner because its free but i always tweak what it gives me a lot and i agree with the suspension always being too stiff, ARBs too. But i tend really really like the gearing, its almost always shifting at the RPM i want for most cars. Now, I cant help but wonder, are most of my tunes garbage since i based it on what forzatuner spit out at me? I havent tried forze tune pro to compare the results but still, im sitting here thinking, well fuck im gonna have to go back and review every goddam car ive tuned lol
Make some Buick gsx tunes please!
I've gotten ads for this app before lol
4:03 has me dying
is this app geared towards the motorsport games and is that why it's so bad in horizon?
garbage tuners like ugrundy????? i'll have you know that i only use ugrundy tunes and they're only 3s offpace in Horizon Mexico Circuit smh.
Ugrundy is bad? I'll let you know Ugrundy tunes can get top 100% in D class. Smh🤦♂️
i love ugrundy!!!! i used a single tune from him and i managed to finish 12st! (its first but double as good!!!!). my mom was so happy for me that she dropped me off at some place and never came back!!! i love ugrundy because his tunes are so amazin!!!!!!!!
Help me Sepi 😑
@@username. 1 tune of 100 spammed tunes is good because the Forza stock tunes is also good 😂
Learn how to tune then stoopid 🤡 @huga 🤣💯
Must be what elay9 uses
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eley9 is far smarter, he mastered the art of creating tunes that look good statswise but completely fall apart in game.
dude literally increases tire pressure to max every time because it even so slightly increases the acceleration stats
Obviously FH5 is a very realistic sim racer and thus should be treated as such. I don't understand what SP4 is on about, I always use realistic settings in my tunes and I can easily get top 2% times. I've used this app before and i loved the tunes it came up with. I'm unsubscribing from this liar.
🤣🤣Laid the sarcasm on pretty thick there, fella...
shhhh
Doesn't use gear tuning and wonders why they are slower. I feel like I'm in the special ed hallway back in highschool.
He literally opened up gear tuning when he did the tests with his discord. Yea, you should follow through with your feeling
@@jdub8925 womp womp
I got the app for free as a promo from the person who made the app.
Great video! Thank God i have installed the cr*cked app for teasting (and saved my money!) Why are your tunes (and others) got banned?
Poor Ugrundy
I'm Brazilian and I can't download your setup
Why Jimmy, why !!!!!!
Been looking at this app for a while now and I'm glad I didn't shill out the money for it :^)
Generally all I use a calculator for is gear tuning but I just built my own little program for that in about 2 hours...
You gotta be kiddin me, i bought this app a couple days ago :(
It’s good for gearing though in my experience but yeah the tunes themself aren’t great lol
@@SpeedyDacoit is it... Gearing I feel is always my weak point ha.... The first couple gears are ok cause you can see the times up until 100mps but then it's all guess work for the most part....
Use the app as it is intended: to be customized to your driving style and you'll enjoy it. Too many people are on one extreme (tune it all by trial and error!) or the other (use the app results without doing any work). The rest of us are in the middle.
@@SpeedyDacoit It’s actually horrible for gearing. It only takes peak power into consideration, so it’s only good for gearing on engines that make peak power at redline. There are SOOO many engines that are best shifted well into the redline, or well below it, so the gear tuning for those would be bad as well.
amogus tune is faster
i might be new, but why everyone diss ugrundy?
his tunes are crap lol. Watch the first tune review or join the DC and you’ll find out why
He's the most popular Forza Horizon tuner but all of his tunes are extremely bad and done without any thought.
Ungrundy mostly makes garbage tunes for seasonal races. What's the problem? Everything. He puts random values without any imagination and very often the parts choice is very weird. He always AWD swaps cars, independing on if it's a good choice or not. Usually his tunes are understeery or they lack of acceleration. Or both... Gearing is out of place - usually 1st and 2nd gears are too short.
Lol yall need a app??
This man deserves more subs
Cuanto me cobras por enseñarme a tunear en forza ?
check the link in description
Te doy 2000 dólares
🤣🤣🤣 this app is big bait
4:22 liar
check description
Lmao
I think you need to test in FH4 not 5, that app was for FH4.
Nop, tuning is almost identical.
Forzatune has been around since at least as far back as FM4. It’s always been very bad.
This man really is an absolute crusader for Forza and I'm 100% here for it! Expose all the bullshit!
I want a refund
Yea the free versions are the same thing there aweful
Everything from forza is a scam. 💩🤣💯
Popcorn time
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Lately started out using same numbers for different categories and changing them with +/-10 steps at a time. And if things get worse just back 'em 5 steps, 3-2-1 until dialed in for my style of driving. Been doing heaps of surprise to my own tuning lately. 😎👍
/DBB
3:42 I laughed so hard at this. The door bell horn was the cherry on top
I swore it was my doorbell. Dog even barked. Lol
I feel the app is very helpful at least for forza motorsport 7. I feel like people's driving style has a big part to play in how the app works for different people.
1:47 that decal can open up so many jokes my god
Unpopular opinion: with the exception of some extremes, tuning is really just a personal preference. Sure, you can tune your car to be statistically faster, but that speed won't mean anything if the rest of the tune doesn't support your driving style personally. Maybe you're a little aggressive with your cornering. The tune that's going to get YOU the fastest lap times is not going to help the dude with excellent control in cornering. They'd likely want their tune to give them more speed on straights.
Oversimplified, tuning is really just compensating for where any given driver needs some extra help. And as your skill as a driver increases, your preferred tuning might change.
That's probably why so many people report good luck with forzatune and others say it isn't helpful at all. A lot of racers are more on the casual side of things. So even a base level tune might help the shave some time off of their laps. Meanwhile, people who are really into tuning, would mark a base tune as inefficient because not only are they use to custom tuning, but also because their skill cap is higher. Meaning they need their tuning to do different things.
Nice video! Just a comment, with all my respect for all FH5 players, tuners, content creators: this is not first time I read or hear about those "garbage tuners", "terrible tuners", and so on. I can understand the reasons for that opinion about them, and I really appreciate being warned about the topic.
I have no interest in defending them, but from my point of view, mentioning it so openly in public sites is unnecesssary, maybe avoidable.
It's better to read or watch videos tuning guides and slowly develop your own tunes based on that. Imo the best one is the one that Sepi made, it has given me the best results when racing online, which is really competitive. From there on, you can tweak your own tunes: /watch?v=kVfBJu580Sw&list=PLwWYv3CDspEylAhSEegsR3N_gAr059X7x
The video description also has a Spreadsheet with even further details on how to correctly tune most of the cars.
Hey sepi, when u did the tune for the forzatunepro in the first test and when u did the model, it said 1995 Porsche gt2 rs not 2012 Porsche gt2 rs
I think Forzatune is made by ugrundy :skull:
Ugrundy 👀
I pay him handsomely for his tuning expertise.
I used this app for FH4 tunes to get a nice starting point from which to develop the tune further and the results were working. However when I moved over to FH5, I noticed that it gave much the same results as FH4 did, despite FH5 having a different handling model than FH4. Still, I used it thinking that I'd get a good starting point, not knowing that it's actually a lot worse than the default tunes. Certainly disappointing, but at least I know that from now on.
what happened to his voice
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I’m super excited to see your updated tuning guide, as someone who hates to download other peoples tunes I love learning how to become better at tuning and your first guide helped me a lot. It’s probably the reason I still play it today, plus your wheel setup guid. Love the videos.
eh il stay with the default forza tune
Great ending as usual I will never get dissapointed by ur videos no matter how much I can laugh and learn at the same time
As someone who is lazy, bad at the game, and doesn't want to learn how to tune: ForzaTune app is awesome.
hahaha so terrible! you could do better doing a blank search in the public tuning setups and just hold right for 5 seconds and then stop and download that setup.
Your first tuning video really helped me learn a whole lot, which is hard to learn in a timely manner. I still have areas that could be improved, but that’s why I’m very excited for the newest tuning video to drop!
0:46 😂😂😂 you are tuning a car from 2012 with tuning settings from a car from 95 😂 if a 17 years older car can get so close to the 2012 one, Forza Tune worth the money 😂
so you saw the car model but not the text right above it
ForzaTune was a lot better for FM3 and FM4 (which it was intended for), but in the Horizon series it became completely useless.
my man used a 1995 GT2 vehicle on the forzatune app while using a 2012 GT2 as the test vehicle lol
Dumb question, but how did you do that? at 4:07 lmao
Just switch from rally to drift suspension and it should work
Лайк, подпииска. :)
Are you going to release your tuning guide? You talked a lot of stuff on other tuners..but have yet to provide your own video as stated that is supposed to be superior. I am curious to see your recommendations as I am sure a lot of people are.
Hey test the free version not pro the tunes are 100% difficult and for me 100% better and faster between the pro version.
@SP4
SINCE YOUR TUNES ARE BANED/GONE
ME AND 100’s IF NOT 1000’s WOULD BUY A APP TO GET YOUR TUNES
PLEASE CONSIDER 🙏
I know absolutely nothing about tuning and so this app comes in handy for me. It does most of the things for me, and I get to have customizations based on my preference. But I didn't know they were so incompetent.
How you use it is the intended way, as opposed to most of what I saw in this video. Appreciate the comment!
@@ForzaTune I use the app too. I heavily disagree with the video as I’ve created monster tunes with the app. I use the app to get me close to my preferences and then I make small tweaks and adjustments to my liking. I have S1 2019 911 gt3 rs that can beat the Viper AE, Mosler,XJR-15, and 2005 ford gt50. I think that’s what the app is made for. Also it sets the tires pressure to equal PSI. You want the wheels bearing the majority of the weight to be 0.5-1.0 PSI higher than the wheels that don’t bare as much weight. I’m friends with players that follows SP4’s tuning guide and I still beat them even without the app.
@@Bryan_Lion Really? Come over to Sepi’s server with your app-generated tunes, let’s set up a lobby and let’s see how much faster you really are with that app comparing to Sepi’s
@@AdamHemi I’m on vacation skiing! Be back on Tuesday
@@AdamHemi and I would prefer rivals, doing average and fastest lap times
4:34 guys let that sink in
Ugrundy is never getting away with it
Can you test Tune it yourself pls?
Lol. Had no idea this was a thing.
For a period of time, I would use a Forza Tune and my own tune for every car I built, and... I always preferred my own tune. This was true even before I learned much about tuning, and I was still better off on my own. It's too bad, 'cause I was hoping to learn something from it.
Ngl I cant tune shit, only drift builds that I can from every single car, i am using this app and all the cars that I sucked at driving , are drive able, I also have skill issues 😅but for me as learning purposes, its good
Well it shaved a second off the default tunes on a couple of cars in forza 8, and made them a joy to drive. Worth a fiver to me. Not tried it on any other game.
In Motorsport it could work better because its a simcade and these tune apps do calculations based on real life physics.
I use base ForzaTune which is free not to race but to have a cruiser
Lmao I got an ad for Forzatune Pro during this video
I can tune better and I have no idea on how to tune a car