I was privileged to meet Pa Elton in 1986. He never said Apostle Babalola was wrong. He said his followers missed it as the revelation of God became mere religion to them and eventually many were infected and died from polluted water
Technically, it is the role of the leader to explain things properly so that the followers don't miss or abuse them. There are some things leaders don't do not because it's wrong, but because their followers will not understand it. I still think the bucks stopped on the leaders table. Also, the leaders must be thinking about future generations who will take it further.
Thank you for your attitude of genuine concern and mercy in showing error and pointing to truth. We must always allow room for correction, repentance and restoration. We serve a merciful God.
May God bless you sir, you are one of the few men of God who are seeing this errors in church. My father in the Lord is also speaking against this errors here in Kenya
Moses used the rod does it mean error?lets not be pointing finger at such a man like Babalola who walked in the glory realm .we know why he was taken but we would rather not talk about it .we only look at what we received from GOD through him .powerful miracles signs n wonders
@@shalomkind4575 Moses used the rod correctly once, but the next time he used same rod it was sinful because he ignored God's word. Even though there was result, water flowed for the people to drink, but God rebuked Moses. That's the issue. To study and follow God's word consistently and not depending on one tradition which becomes idolatry because God has a new instruction or strategy which is not followed.
Mr Sunday Adelaja, have you taken your time to study the history of C.A.C and the calling of Babalola? Joseph Babalola was never an illeterate! He was never interested in getting result, and people were not copying hin to get result. You've never had any physical contact with Pa Elton to interview him on the issues you're raising. You are only interested in finding a fault in every life and ministry of every man of God. What or where has handbell becomes an error or a sin? You should have ask why they used the handbell. Definitely, you shouldn't have use drums in churches today as well. Pa Elton didn't trained Joseph Babalola; go and check when Joseph Babalola started his ministry and when Pa Elton came to Nigeria.
The apostolic Church in the new testament anointed people with oil for healing purpose but was not misused as we have it now. They also took aprons from the bodies of the apostles for healing purpose. However the apostolic church never encouraged people to rely on these things before they can contact God.
I have my odds about your extremism but this is the best comment on church doctrinal practices I have watched. I was shocked when PST. Adeboye asked all the church members to come to church with hair combs. He prayed on it and said they should be using it morning and night. I said within me that we are getting close to peganism.
There's no surprise people will tread underfoot this Man's wisdom because he is not a 'miracle worker' like the ones we understand Miracle workers to be…But Sir there is no greater miracle than the ground-breaking Reformation Christ is bringing through you...You are Blessed.🙏🙏
I agree that our faith shouldn’t be based on what can be seen, felt or touched. But that Pa Elton anointed these men you mentioned is far from the truth. 1. Pa Elton came to Nigeria in 1936, the Oke ọyè revival that announced Ayo Babalola was in 1930 (That was 6 years before Pa Elton came to Nigeria). In this revival there were signs and wonders; for the dead was raised, the blind saw, the lame walk witches were arrested by the power of God there were manifestation of the Pentecostal power as of old. So how come Pa Elton was the Father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria? 2. As for the substance used by Ayo Babalola, I want you to know that God deals with people according to the level of light they have, the early 20th century was full of thick darkness in Nigeria and God needed to introduce His power to the then already Idolatrous society who despite the presence of the orthodox churches and missionaries will still go back to their shrines and idols in the evening to bow to the gods that are not God. But within few days of Ayo Babalola ministerial exploits the then Anglican vicar (a white missionary) said “Brother Ayo, you’ve achieved in three days what we couldn’t achieve in seventeen years. All these account were prior to the coming and arrival of Pa Elton. The people were already used to substance as a means to connect the person they believed to be God. God needed to reach them, go and study the account of the lords of the philistine in 1samuel when the ark of God was stolen to the house of Dagon their God (1sam 5&6). Come to think of it, did God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul so much that from him handkerchief and aprons were taken to minister to the sick and the oppressed? Read Acts 19:11-12. If you say doctrine shouldn’t have been built around uncommon miracles I would have said you’re in order but to assume it was idolatrous practice in the then primitive society is a fallacy. I do not agree with the way CAC has taken the use of water today cos they ought to have grown into maturity now that the light of the gospel has shine upon Africans and God has raised teachers of the word all over Nigeria. 4. That Pa’ Elton Mentored Ayo Babalola is not true cos Babalola has been a renowned minister of the gospel long before pa Elton came. 5. Of Pastor EA Adeboye, it is clear that baba is compromising and I believe he needs serious intercession. But he was not mentored by pa Elton, for God’s sake where did you put Late - Pa Josiah Akindayomi (the Founder and general superintendent of R.C.C.G.?) Of cause Pastor Adeboye May have contact with Pa Elton but for mentorship the credit goes to Pa Akindayomi. 6. To say Joseph Ayo Babalola was an illiterate shows you’re not even familiar with his history cos he was educated enough in those days that as at the age of 24 he was already employed as a road worker by the then British colonial masters and he could communicate with them without an interpreter. Not only that, I have historical records of Ayo Babalola’s diary which achieved the account of how he spent his life written by himself. I think you were misinformed cos from your words you’re using the phrase of uncertainty in your expressions. I am typing this with assurances as a graduate of both international and a sound learner of church history in Nigeria and and globally. 7. In view of these, I am not in support of the use of substance in the miracle ministry for “the Just shall live by faith” but don’t connect the Error to the Great Apostle Ayo Babalola. For it is written “in the latter days some shall depart from the faith” And point of correction, Pa’ Elton never annoint Pastor Adeboye or Ayo Babalola Jesus anointed these two; Adeboye was imparted through Kenneth E Haggin; and Ayo Babalola by the Lord Jesus Himself after 7 days fasting and prayer when he eat yam given to him by the Lord Jesus Himself. Final submission. Before you come online to speak things like these online study your history very well because there are those of us who are very much in the midst of history. I stand to be challenged by this piece. +2348134326714.
Chinenye Mary does the above comments sound like strife or biased words? I presented the truth in historic and biblical perspective and what you see or hear is anger? I guess you need a second touch from the Lord.
very on point bro. u know the history. adelaja haslost it. he should preach the gospel. we are not americans we are africans and darkness rule here more. god bless u bro
In Nigeria people believe you're a true man of God, base on your physical achievements, the miracles you do, the mass or crowd you command, the political influence you have, your financial capacity. All of these except the fruit of the Holy Spirit and the teaching of Christ and the apostles is the yardstick used in measuring a man of God in Africa and Nigeria. God will help the Nigerian Church.
Dr. Sunday Adelaja, I will like to quote you: " One of Pa Elton's most famous struggles was in trying to communicate what he believed to be a more biblical interpretation.........." He said what he believed, and not what God believed or the truth communicated to him by the holy spirit. I think it will be more dignified if you had by yourself inquired the position of using the physical elements, either is wrong or right from the holy spirit before you come on air and be airing your own view or belief, certainly you cannot claim that all your rhetorics are from God or the Holy Spirit. Please I expect you to be of the spirit and not of what someone else's believe or not. Search your scriptures well before you register your comments. God bless you.
There is a way we would sing ..there is a way we would praise God..there is a way we would preach for the people to be truly blessed..Paul had to behave like Rome to win the romans, not because the behavior of Rome is the standard for the Bible..or the gospel, the way we name our children is not the way Europe name their children. The way we do our weddings is not the way Europe do theirs..are their styles found in the Bible too?
So what about people taking clothes and handkerchiefs from Apostle Paul to heal people he couldn't reach? The blood and water saved my mother from high blood pressure and she stopped taking her medicine. Answer, sir
Bless God for the healing of your mom , but this is not doctrine and you shouldn't every time healing needs to be done. The only medium and intermediary between god and man is Jesus and the only sovereign being is God, so it is God's prerogative to heal or not to.
In 1999 my sister invited me to winner chapel where Oyedepo was to wash his member's feet so that anywhere they go the will possess as their own. When I asked her where it is in Bible she told me Jesus Christ washed the apostle's feet. Being a very critical person I refused because I was thought that any message that do not point to the rejection of quest for material possession is not the message of the Cross of My Lord Jesus Christ.
Man of God, you must remember that God has not made you the judge of anyone. You must be careful and do whatever corrections you should make sure that everything is done in the spirit of humility.
Why did Jesus use soil to open the eyes of the blind ? I am sorry I will advice you to do something else. God did not call Babalola home because of his errors. His time was up. I have Babalola’s daughter cell contact with me. So Pa Elton is the ultimate Bible scholar? Who was your own mentor? Dr Sunday, do something else. Dr Sunday, let me tell you there are things that can cause temporary divide between teachers and prophets. You can initiate education for a student and the student might end up becoming better than you. Apostle Paul met Peter and others in the field and he eventually surpassed all of them in gifting. Paul went to Arabia’s desert to study Bible by himself and got many of the revelations without them. Even Peter confessed that Paul was difficult to understand sometimes. I am glad I did not enroll for your school.
Pa Elton is a Father but he's not the Holy Spirit. So his interpretation doesn't necessarily indicate the standard of things. Paul used handkerchiefs and aprons in the new testament. Are you saying Paul also practiced paganism or idolatry?.
Who told him his is an error we are talking about someone that was lead by God himself those copy are doing it on there own told water oil is also used in the Bible
My concern is for the body of Christ ,how they react to this video and why the man of God couldn't go close to his fellow colleagues so that , they could pray for God to help them with the understanding of the holy spirit.
Truly today, Nigerians and Blacks generally in Africa and America, and wherever Blacks are in the world, can hardly pray without a physical object that they can touch and see - water, bell, and in some cases, sand, salt, etc. Too much of idolatry in today's Church. May God have mercy.
Everything thing you shared is nothing but the truth. People no longer want to hear the truth but truth is a must.The Lord is with you man of God.He will keep you and preserve you unto his heavenly kingdom ijn.
To be sincere, this man is on point...Peter was true man of God, even walked with Jesus, but when he erred Paul rebuked him. Pls DSA be teaching and correcting calmly like this always rather than the robust style. It sinks in better. God strengthen you.
What value is this man bringing to the table. Apostle Ayo Babalola was a phenomenon in Nigeria and also arch Bishop Idahosa. How can someone say that this Great people died early because God felt that they damaged the Church. I pray God will forgive this man. Jesus gave his life to the church not Pa Elton. Who is this one? the business man in Ukraine
I can't just understand how in the africa every pastor is wrong and you are the only one that is right. I don't think you have done even 1tenth of what the Great father's faith did before they left
"My father was the Area Superintendent of the Apostolic Church in charge of Ilesa, Ekiti, Akoko and Kabba, now in Kogi State.What were the practices then that were anti-Christianity'Idols. My father met Prophet Joseph Babalola at Oke-Oye, Ilesa. I met him too when I was a young girl, burning idols because people were predominantly idol worshippers. All sorts of charms retrieved by Prophet Babalola were brought to the crusade at Oke-Oye and were set ablaze" Mama Ruth Elton, the only child of Pa. S. G. Elton
Just like God worked mightyly with Samson, king Solomon & so many men that imported human traditions & some satanic pattern of running ministries in their walk with God. No one is saying that Babalola & Idahosa did not work mightyly for God. We are saying that we should learn from their mistakes in their work with God. Go get knowledge ok BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS LIGHT.
God worked mightily through Alexander dowie too, though he ended in error. ALL MEN OF GOD ARE HUMANS AND WILL MAKE ERRORS- IT'S FOR THE CHURCH TO ROOT OUT THESE ERRORS.
I understand his intentions here, but I do not agree with him on Apostle Babalola being an illiterate... He keeps a diary (a man that keeps a diary is not an illiterate) 🙏
@@dledgeproductions1795 SDA is not a discreet and humble man. If he was, he would know that babalola was educated upto standard 4. Thus babalola wasn't illiterate but semi-literate. Remember that biblical understanding is not a function of just normal literacy as even Adeboye who had a PhD consulted pa Elton too for tutelage.
My own take on Dr. Sunday Adeleja is that the things he is saying is the truth. Bro Gbile Akanni and some few men of God in Nigeria have been teaching this truth but it seems these things have become so popular now that many thought nothing is wrong with them. If we truly focus on Jesus who is the patterned Son, we know that the kind of things we do as men of God can not be traced to Him.
@@ppassman7439 be quite... Gbile Akanni has said so for long...the fact he's not saying it on TH-cam and adelaja is doesn't make him more spirit filled than DSA
I don't know why people get annoyed when the truth is been said. Idahosa and Babalola were great men of God that made their mistakes which is costing the Nigerian churches today an ordeal. We should learn from their mistakes and make corrections instead of imitating their mistakes. Thank you DSA for bringing these truths public
Someone gets DD in one mushroom sch abroad then return as a Christian witch or wizard. Soon...performed abracadabra and becomes international evangelist.....these ones on this path need help
PA Elton first set foot in Nigeria in March 1937, by then Babalola had been used mightily by God to bring revival in Nigeria so how can anyone say PA Elton was spiritual father or mentor to Babalola ? That is just not true !
There's nothing wise in what Sunday Adelaja has said here... The best he's done is to mess the little truth he uttered in bits with plenty of lies, misinterpretations and misrepresentations.
If I wave my hands now or suit and people get touched by the power of Gos..it is error because you dont operate in those things..let the evangelist bonke you so much love does that here in Africa.
If you want to preach Bible and established all that is in the Bible..then preach it..dont condemn anyone's work..you didn't call them to it..preach what you think it is the right standard and people who wants to follow you will,
Pentecostalism has seen a mighty revival as far back as 1930 from Joseph Babaloloa through the grace of God and Pa Elton first set his foot in Nigeria in 1937!
"they were not under him, but they saw him as their mentor". He didn't claim that Pa Elton started first in Nigeria. There's room for spiritual growth even among pastors. Even the apostles in the Bible grew spiritually.
I encourage everyone to read Ayodeji Abodunde's books - Messenger (Elton and the Making of Pentecostalism in Nigeria) and A Heritage of Faith (A History of Christianity in Nigeria) for a broader treatment of this topic and more detail on how Christianity has fared in Nigeria. He's a genuine child of God, an excellent author and his works are well researched. His books will inform, challenge and encourage you. God bless you!
Tb Joshua used these mediums like faith bracelets, tb Joshua stickers, and morning water, supposedly for conveying the power of God which means continuation of babalola , babalola died at 55, tb Joshua died at 57 I don't know much about idahosa.
So..people will deliberately go to bring bad water for them to drink after it was prayed upon..abi? Leave their water, bell and the rest to them.. It is not harming anyone..let them believe in the power of Gos that can be communicated through those things..
I am a pastor in Kenya,in the city of Nairobi, East Africa, what pastor Sunday is teaching is a pure truth, GOD IS A SPIRIT.... WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING MATERIAL TO TRANSMIT THE POWER OF THE LIVING GOD. FAITH IN WHO HE IS WILL GET THE JOB DONE without any external assistance. My problem with him is when he mentions the names of the servants of God.
Sir please Pa Elton is not the of Father of Pentecostal in Nigeria, Pa Elton was in Ilesa before Oke Oyedepo revival and Sir Pa Elton came to Joseph Ayodele Babalola in Ido Ile mountain to pray with him. Sir the English missionaries did not prreach the pure gospel in Nigeria and African countries but religion.
The problem of Pentecostals is poor listener ship...this gentle is very clear in his discussion, but here you are calling it castigation, when shall we grow up surely.Obviously Babalola like any other man had his mistakes which we ca learn from. what is wrong with talking about them.
@@FULLCOUNSEL So this Dr is the best of them all. No mistake with him ? You should know that God will often tell prophets somethings that are not directly stated in the Bible and that does bot make it a sin or error. He is God alone and the Bible can not contain or show all things God will ever do.
@@hezecomp what do you know about the prophetic sir? And do you suppose God will do anything outside His own Revealed/Written Word? Now listen and learn.. There are 4 degrees of the prophetic anointing or grace namely; 1. The gift of prophecy 2. The Spirit of prophecy 3. Office of the Prophet 4. Prophecy of Scriptures (The Written Word of God) The first 3 are fallible and the level of inspiration in its reception doesn't measured up or anywhere close to what the Holy prophets of old received in Writing the Scriptures which Is Infallible. All revelations received by any of the first 3 are to be judged by the Scriptures even, Prophecy of Scriptures.. In understanding be man!
Men and women of God that are genuinely called do receives divine revelations and directives from God. It’s about personal and divine encounters they have with God. Jesus promised to back us up in the gospel with signs and wonders. We should not be quick to judgement; if we were not there when they have divine encounters. Our holy lives and righteousness is the peak of all things.
Jesus did many things that were not written in the Bible. We can get all others from the Homy Spirit, given to us as the church. John 21:25 God’s work are infinite
Pa Elton never referred himself as Babalola's mentor. Babalola started his ministry in NIGERIA 1928, Pa Elton came to NIGERIA 1937. Did God told you that He took away Babalola so as to stop him from destroying the church??? Please stop giving false information!!!
Mark 6:13 "And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them". Act_19:12 "So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them." James 5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord". John_6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Pst Adelaja come back to Nigeria and give us a model of how to run a church by starting one. Not just talking. After all the gospel is not in word but in power.
BALOGUN DIMEJI , if you can’t see /hear any impact in the church pastor Sunday Adelaja , it means you are using lanterns all the time in your home , it’s a pity for you and your friends, if you have good friends like Dr Anu and Dr Bamshaye, Mr lsreal , you will know what is going on in the world and GO’s churches. Try to be reading bible, Dimeji starts from New Testament and ask Holy Spirit to give you understanding. If you are still struggle to understand pastor Sunday Adelaja teachings once again is a pity am very sad for your comments 😂😂😂 . May the Lord help you in Jesus Christ s name amen.
BALOGUN DIMEJI KNOWLEDGE IS POWER & LIGHT OK. HUMBLE YOURSELF AND GET IT. WHY DON'T YOU GO LEARN,STUDY & RESEARCH ABOUT DSA BEFORE SAYING THAT HE'S JUST TALKING. YOU THAT IS NOT JUST TALKING, HOW FAR HAVE YOU GONE IN CHANGING THIS USELESS & FOOLISH NIGERIA MINDSET AND MENTALITY WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEM IN NIGERIA.
@@bl_pan go make your research about dsa first, then you can come back and ask me that childish question OK. If the under development & the extreme poverty that almost all THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS & THE POLITICAL LEADERS IN NIGERIA HAVE SUBJECTED THIS NATION TO IS OK & ENJOYING TO YOU, THEN YOU MUST BE MORE WICKED & WORST THAN THE DEVIL 😈 HIMSELF. BETTER REPENT OF YOUR IGNORANCE & EMBRACE KNOWLEDGE, IF NOT YOU WILL PERISH BECAUSE IGNORANCE OF THE TRUTH, KILLS & TAKES TO HELL MORE THAN ANY DEADLY DISEASE IN THE WHOLE WORLD. THANK YOU MY DEAR.
One person that learned correctly the principles taught by PA Elton is Bro Gbile Akanni. Glory to God that we have someone carrying the correct and balanced Gospel.
@@kasondelesa5426 that's your perception from the post. Whether white or black, he had a man who taught him the word and in whose life he saw Christ that he could imitate. Listen to DSA again, he's one man that he has respect for as far as life and ministry is concerned. God will show us mercy to learn correctly.
Well, to me in my opinion it is not the illiteracy aspect because other literate and we'll educated men of God in Nigeria and the world today had errors in one way or the other. Can you think of anointing oil and other methods used for healing and deliverance in church today? We know in part and prophecies in parts. I think to accept correction is the best virtue to the leader and followers. Moreso, we must not forget the fact that Satan doesn't want God's kingdom be established that is the reason for deciding and distracting men of God and the church from getting the best. May He keep us from errors that will land us to hell 🙏🙏 Please I am open to correction also if you discovered anything wrong in my statement here. May we remain in his vineyard
@@IamGodSon you can die when your body is already over used. You can also die when your assignment is actually finished and ended and nothing more. You can also die if you so desire God take you home that you think by yourself that you are done or fulfilled.
@@Bim-Hopfan his assignment was finished? Many oldtimers are still around whose jobs apparently isn't finished- OF COURSE that's a weak excuse we profer when we can't accept what appears to be the truth. History shows many MOG who died young when they entered into error. Most accounts state the babalola was healthy in his last year, thus the errors he introduced must have precipitated his early demise as God intended to correct his error in the upcoming generation. I believe Sam happened with Benson idahosa. That doesn't mean that they achieved great marvels for God, even as Moses did. But Moses made errors too, it just means they're humans not wrong.
@@IamGodSon smiles. Your theology is wrong bro. Error or no Error those make God call you home in other to correct it. Hell No! I wouldn't even argue far; Is pastor Adeboye no working in some errors in his ministry? Is pastor Kumuyi not working in some errors in his ministry? Is DK olukoya not working in some errors in his ministry? His pastor Chris not working in some errors in his ministry? Is Benny Inn not working I name errors in his ministry? Didn't Billy Graham worked in some errors in his ministry before his demise at a very old age? Look, men are prone to errors and none is perfect..we only strive to be perfect in our work for Him. Moses didn't die because of errors, God specifically told him to go to the mountain and die. His time was up..simple! Joshua walked in more errors more than Moses. Samuel walked in errors. David walked in a whole lot of errors! God didn't kill them. Once your time is up..your time is up! Every reasons for early death are what I have listed in my comment above. Nothing more thing less. That Ayo Babalola died doesn't change everything and anything he laid down in CAC till date. Infact Apostle Timothy Obadare of CAC Koseunti Walked in everything Ayo Babalola laid down and still died at a very old full age. Infact Baba Abiye of Ori Oke Ede walks in strange powers and does everything Ayo Babalola did..and he is still alive and of age.
Sir, Nigerian church didn't miss anything, we are fully equipped... And we are still learning. You can not know all the ways of God DSA, it was a progression that the Nigerian Church had not regretted.. And we the new generation never regretted it..we only worked on it...and we would work on it more as the holyghost leads us...he is the promise to the church.
@@johnadeoye3559 what exactly are you saying? Mind you, this post was made three years ago and I still maintained my stand. No one knows all the ways of God, and the church is growing and growth is progressive. This doesn't mean there are no errors and that we are oblivion of them, Everyone called will do what they can do and vacate the scene. Whatever error they made was because they were humans. We know there are errors and the holy ghost know how to handle them, what to do about them and how to correct them. He remains the promise to the Church.
talking about his death (22:02) it seems you dont know about the strong hold of darkness in Nigeria then. and is like God showed you his mind before calling the apostle home. pls come and establish your ministry in Nigeria. Let see if u will do better.
Phillip Oluwatobi I'm an ordained minister of God in CAC. I've been following this man with great caution in his videos for a long time. I dislike some of his approach and way of talking, but I see him being more cautious in this video and I think this man is just correct about what he's saying. I heard it years back that God sent one white man to Babalola back then but that he didn't really follow him. I suppose Pa. Elton came during the The Apostolic Church schism of "healing without drugs" which led to Babalola breaking out to found CAC. Whatever happened happened because of ignorance and should not be ignored. Truth is that the Nigerian church is presently very sick and needs healing which cannot just happen by discarding the historical root-cause of it. God help us 🙏
What is wrong with us black people even the learned among us? We don't value ourselves but castigate and drag to the mud our God's given gifts. Read about all those tagged worldwide as God's generals of Babalola's time and tell me who can compare with Babalola on fighting the kingdom of darkness. Tell me. Even the white missionaries said so.
@@gods-judgement23 please who wrote the history? You people better not annoy the Holy spirit. Why is Pa Elton his standard for what he is saying? The Bible is the standard. Even in the New testament, Jesus healed using Clay
May God bless us all in Jesus' name.Sir,with all due respect given to you,I would like to ask you this question. The Old and the New Testament are they not the word of God and these elements were not used by God's elects? Why are you crying down modern day men of God? God asked Moses what he was haven at hand ? and Moses responded by saying rod and through it God manifested His glory. Apostle Paul also used the handkerchief to heal and bless his people. It is good to criticize but let it be on fact. Thank you sir.
Thank you pastor Sunday for your uncompromising teaching of the word of God against heresy and paganism in the Nigerian and many other countries in Africa. Also Papa = Pope, it's all heretical
In your own eyes..everything you have is the correct, yet..I can point out 10things that are not correct that you which is not according to scriptures. mand you are walking in error on them..let's be humble..God calls men and men are meant to have their weaknesses..you do have your obvious weaknesses too DSA
You call a so-called pastor who said with his own mouth that he committed adultery with over 30 women in his own church as having a 'weakness'? Sunday Adelaja is demon-possessed.
There a whole lot of misconception here!! I think when you are to do rebuttal, let's use the Bible, not what someone else's said, therefore if I am to do some rebuttal to this and I am saying that someone said and the other said without using the Bible, then we are doom...
Error here! A lie. Pa Elton did not anoint Babalola. Apost Babalola was educated. Any education above primary 5 cannot be categorized as illiteracy. Another mistake you are making is that not all revelations we get from God can be directly traced to the Bible. If you had attended Kenneth Hagin’s Bible School, you would have had a taste of prophetic training. So who anointed Apostle Babalola ? Peter in Bible was also no educated. So by listening to you now, you have the mindset that you know more than all these great men of God in Nigeria. Ha ha ha! Oga ooo. A number of North American prophets also used physical elements during the voice of healing. Apostle Paul used anointed handkerchief to heal. Peter’s shadow healed people and all these in N.T Bible. Please stop ridiculing Nigerians churches.
With all respect pastor ~ the bells, the bottle of water and rod may be wrong but definetely not the olive oil and handkerchief those are very scriptural.
That European does things in a way doesn't make us do it in their ways..we are different, and it is not everything they do that is in the Bible..they formed most of their doctrines by the way they think and reason.
God bless you richly sir, objects can never be greater than the word of God. We walk by faith and not by sight. May Almighty God continue to empower you, sir!
Have you heard from pastor Chris what took him to TB joshua's church before making a conclusion? Be sure you are saying the truth about him on this subject.
Dr. Adelaja, the narrative is not correct about Babalola. He was a trained Mechanical Engineer and hence he was holding with no link to spirituality when he later dropped when people were having meanings to it. The handbell was a means of getting a decorum because there was insufficient sound system. And for clarifications, Pa Elton did not train Babalola and his team please check very well . For more enquires check the books written Pastor Dayo Oluwamakin, Pastor Olu Ashaju and Pastor Olowe. Your facts are not correct about CAC and the calling of Babalola. Thanks
Many times, the one that "hears" about a Revelation/Encounter would not fully grasp the "depth" of the Revelation/Encounter. Therefore the receiver of the Revelation/Encounter must be very careful to "guard" what was communicated to him/her during the Encounter.
Sir, truth is bitter but it must be said. All the things you're talking about is correct and true. You're just speaking the mind of God. But most Nigerian Christians can't understand what you're talking about, because they're so ignorant of the teachings of Christ, which is the new testament version of the Bible.
Now I know this guy is just speaking from his own knowledge not from the Holy Spirit, if you are called by God, he must give you a specific instruction for your ministry, that’s why some men of God are everywhere, mr Sunday what instructions has God given you, and I’m not saying some of them practicing this things heard from God, but some your explanation is purely based on your own opinion
Apostle Peter was used by God but when he made a mistake his fellow Apostle Paul rebuked him publicly. Therefore if DSA thinks that some Church Leaders erred, he is at liberty to point out whatever he thinks went wrong. the discussion that we will then have will only serve to make us better. We know what politicians do when they are criticized. As Believers, we should not allow church leaders to silence us the way these politicians have done. For how will we improve if we cannot openly discuss the merits and demerits of those who preceded us?
Error or no error, individuals encounter with GOD is the altimate thing , why do you think you want to belief the same religion that the slave master introduced ?
Go and ask for raw power of the holyspirit,not the diluted and polluted ones that powers of darkness give to some people to derail and waterdown great works God has done through his servants.
So,what do you have to say about Jesus when spat on sand and use it to make a paste to make the blind man see. Is that paganism also?.You also said God took Babalola because of the issue of Objects,where did you see such revelation or demonic lies from. Better do not bring curse on yourself and unborn generation. The water at Ara-Keji and some mountains in Nigeria that people go there without even any pastor around and it does uncountable miracles and healings,what do you have to say about that.If you doubt,carry a bottle of water wherever you are in the world,read psalms and pray into it with faith and see whether it would not heal sickness or do wonders.
There is a picture in your book titled "The Jesus you Never Knew". When you place an image in a book to depict Jesus, you commit idolatry; for you shall not make any image to depict God, for Jesus is God. The sin of ignorance is not excusable before God; Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Acts17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent:
I was privileged to meet Pa Elton in 1986. He never said Apostle Babalola was wrong. He said his followers missed it as the revelation of God became mere religion to them and eventually many were infected and died from polluted water
Technically, it is the role of the leader to explain things properly so that the followers don't miss or abuse them. There are some things leaders don't do not because it's wrong, but because their followers will not understand it. I still think the bucks stopped on the leaders table. Also, the leaders must be thinking about future generations who will take it further.
Thank you for your attitude of genuine concern and mercy in showing error and pointing to truth. We must always allow room for correction, repentance and restoration. We serve a merciful God.
True. No revelation should be higher than the revelation of the word of God (holy scriptures)
May God bless you sir, you are one of the few men of God who are seeing this errors in church. My father in the Lord is also speaking against this errors here in Kenya
With all due respect sir, Apostle Joseph Ayo Babalola is one of the greatest things to ever happen in Nigeria..
That's true but he wasn't a perfect servant- even Moses made errors.
Moses used the rod does it mean error?lets not be pointing finger at such a man like Babalola who walked in the glory realm .we know why he was taken but we would rather not talk about it .we only look at what we received from GOD through him .powerful miracles signs n wonders
He did not say otherwise. Just pointing out errors
@@shalomkind4575 Moses used the rod correctly once, but the next time he used same rod it was sinful because he ignored God's word. Even though there was result, water flowed for the people to drink, but God rebuked Moses. That's the issue. To study and follow God's word consistently and not depending on one tradition which becomes idolatry because God has a new instruction or strategy which is not followed.
But he made mistakes. That's the subject
Mr Sunday Adelaja, have you taken your time to study the history of C.A.C and the calling of Babalola? Joseph Babalola was never an illeterate! He was never interested in getting result, and people were not copying hin to get result. You've never had any physical contact with Pa Elton to interview him on the issues you're raising. You are only interested in finding a fault in every life and ministry of every man of God. What or where has handbell becomes an error or a sin? You should have ask why they used the handbell. Definitely, you shouldn't have use drums in churches today as well. Pa Elton didn't trained Joseph Babalola; go and check when Joseph Babalola started his ministry and when Pa Elton came to Nigeria.
The apostolic Church in the new testament anointed people with oil for healing purpose but was not misused as we have it now. They also took aprons from the bodies of the apostles for healing purpose. However the apostolic church never encouraged people to rely on these things before they can contact God.
Many miracles in the book of acts wasn't by anointing with oil. It was an irregular practice.
I have my odds about your extremism but this is the best comment on church doctrinal practices I have watched. I was shocked when PST. Adeboye asked all the church members to come to church with hair combs. He prayed on it and said they should be using it morning and night. I said within me that we are getting close to peganism.
There's no surprise people will tread underfoot this Man's wisdom because he is not a 'miracle worker' like the ones we understand Miracle workers to be…But Sir there is no greater miracle than the ground-breaking Reformation Christ is bringing through you...You are Blessed.🙏🙏
More like devil?
@@bl_pan liars everywhere
❤❤❤ I love you with the love of Christ.
I agree that our faith shouldn’t be based on what can be seen, felt or touched. But that Pa Elton anointed these men you mentioned is far from the truth.
1. Pa Elton came to Nigeria in 1936, the Oke ọyè revival that announced Ayo Babalola was in 1930 (That was 6 years before Pa Elton came to Nigeria). In this revival there were signs and wonders; for the dead was raised, the blind saw, the lame walk witches were arrested by the power of God there were manifestation of the Pentecostal power as of old. So how come Pa Elton was the Father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria?
2. As for the substance used by Ayo Babalola, I want you to know that God deals with people according to the level of light they have, the early 20th century was full of thick darkness in Nigeria and God needed to introduce His power to the then already Idolatrous society who despite the presence of the orthodox churches and missionaries will still go back to their shrines and idols in the evening to bow to the gods that are not God. But within few days of Ayo Babalola ministerial exploits the then Anglican vicar (a white missionary) said “Brother Ayo, you’ve achieved in three days what we couldn’t achieve in seventeen years. All these account were prior to the coming and arrival of Pa Elton. The people were already used to substance as a means to connect the person they believed to be God. God needed to reach them, go and study the account of the lords of the philistine in 1samuel when the ark of God was stolen to the house of Dagon their God (1sam 5&6). Come to think of it, did God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul so much that from him handkerchief and aprons were taken to minister to the sick and the oppressed? Read Acts 19:11-12.
If you say doctrine shouldn’t have been built around uncommon miracles I would have said you’re in order but to assume it was idolatrous practice in the then primitive society is a fallacy.
I do not agree with the way CAC has taken the use of water today cos they ought to have grown into maturity now that the light of the gospel has shine upon Africans and God has raised teachers of the word all over Nigeria.
4. That Pa’ Elton Mentored Ayo Babalola is not true cos Babalola has been a renowned minister of the gospel long before pa Elton came.
5. Of Pastor EA Adeboye, it is clear that baba is compromising and I believe he needs serious intercession. But he was not mentored by pa Elton, for God’s sake where did you put Late - Pa Josiah Akindayomi (the Founder and general superintendent of R.C.C.G.?) Of cause Pastor Adeboye May have contact with Pa Elton but for mentorship the credit goes to Pa Akindayomi.
6. To say Joseph Ayo Babalola was an illiterate shows you’re not even familiar with his history cos he was educated enough in those days that as at the age of 24 he was already employed as a road worker by the then British colonial masters and he could communicate with them without an interpreter. Not only that, I have historical records of Ayo Babalola’s diary which achieved the account of how he spent his life written by himself.
I think you were misinformed cos from your words you’re using the phrase of uncertainty in your expressions. I am typing this with assurances as a graduate of both international and a sound learner of church history in Nigeria and and globally.
7. In view of these, I am not in support of the use of substance in the miracle ministry for “the Just shall live by faith” but don’t connect the Error to the Great Apostle Ayo Babalola.
For it is written “in the latter days some shall depart from the faith” And point of correction, Pa’ Elton never annoint Pastor Adeboye or Ayo Babalola Jesus anointed these two; Adeboye was imparted through Kenneth E Haggin; and Ayo Babalola by the Lord Jesus Himself after 7 days fasting and prayer when he eat yam given to him by the Lord Jesus Himself.
Final submission.
Before you come online to speak things like these online study your history very well because there are those of us who are very much in the midst of history.
I stand to be challenged by this piece.
+2348134326714.
Why do you people get annoyed when someone is telling you the truth.
Chinenye Mary does the above comments sound like strife or biased words?
I presented the truth in historic and biblical perspective and what you see or hear is anger?
I guess you need a second touch from the Lord.
very on point bro. u know the history. adelaja haslost it. he should preach the gospel. we are not americans we are africans and darkness rule here more. god bless u bro
Jimoh Abdullahi Ola Amen brother
In Nigeria people believe you're a true man of God, base on your physical achievements, the miracles you do, the mass or crowd you command, the political influence you have, your financial capacity. All of these except the fruit of the Holy Spirit and the teaching of Christ and the apostles is the yardstick used in measuring a man of God in Africa and Nigeria. God will help the Nigerian Church.
Dr. Sunday Adelaja, I will like to quote you: " One of Pa Elton's most famous struggles was in trying to communicate what he believed to be a more biblical interpretation.........." He said what he believed, and not what God believed or the truth communicated to him by the holy spirit. I think it will be more dignified if you had by yourself inquired the position of using the physical elements, either is wrong or right from the holy spirit before you come on air and be airing your own view or belief, certainly you cannot claim that all your rhetorics are from God or the Holy Spirit. Please I expect you to be of the spirit and not of what someone else's believe or not. Search your scriptures well before you register your comments. God bless you.
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There is a way we would sing ..there is a way we would praise God..there is a way we would preach for the people to be truly blessed..Paul had to behave like Rome to win the romans, not because the behavior of Rome is the standard for the Bible..or the gospel, the way we name our children is not the way Europe name their children. The way we do our weddings is not the way Europe do theirs..are their styles found in the Bible too?
Imagine this people are really something wrong
So what about people taking clothes and handkerchiefs from Apostle Paul to heal people he couldn't reach? The blood and water saved my mother from high blood pressure and she stopped taking her medicine. Answer, sir
Bless God for the healing of your mom , but this is not doctrine and you shouldn't every time healing needs to be done. The only medium and intermediary between god and man is Jesus and the only sovereign being is God, so it is God's prerogative to heal or not to.
DSA not only the Nigerian church but the whole African church! You are very correct on this point!
In 1999 my sister invited me to winner chapel where Oyedepo was to wash his member's feet so that anywhere they go the will possess as their own. When I asked her where it is in Bible she told me Jesus Christ washed the apostle's feet. Being a very critical person I refused because I was thought that any message that do not point to the rejection of quest for material possession is not the message of the Cross of My Lord Jesus Christ.
Man of God, you must remember that God has not made you the judge of anyone. You must be careful and do whatever corrections you should make sure that everything is done in the spirit of humility.
Why did Jesus use soil to open the eyes of the blind ? I am sorry I will advice you to do something else. God did not call Babalola home because of his errors. His time was up. I have Babalola’s daughter cell contact with me. So Pa Elton is the ultimate Bible scholar? Who was your own mentor? Dr Sunday, do something else. Dr Sunday, let me tell you there are things that can cause temporary divide between teachers and prophets. You can initiate education for a student and the student might end up becoming better than you. Apostle Paul met Peter and others in the field and he eventually surpassed all of them in gifting. Paul went to Arabia’s desert to study Bible by himself and got many of the revelations without them. Even Peter confessed that Paul was difficult to understand sometimes. I am glad I did not enroll for your school.
Pa Elton is a Father but he's not the Holy Spirit. So his interpretation doesn't necessarily indicate the standard of things. Paul used handkerchiefs and aprons in the new testament. Are you saying Paul also practiced paganism or idolatry?.
This Man of God is not speaking against Babalola, He is speaking against the errors. Don't misinterprate him
Who told him his is an error we are talking about someone that was lead by God himself those copy are doing it on there own told water oil is also used in the Bible
My concern is for the body of Christ ,how they react to this video and why the man of God couldn't go close to his fellow colleagues so that , they could pray for God to help them with the understanding of the holy spirit.
Truly today, Nigerians and Blacks generally in Africa and America, and wherever Blacks are in the world, can hardly pray without a physical object that they can touch and see - water, bell, and in some cases, sand, salt, etc. Too much of idolatry in today's Church. May God have mercy.
Even though Apostle Paul never carried around a medium people brought mediums to him which they took back to their sick who were healed.
Everything thing you shared is nothing but the truth. People no longer want to hear the truth but truth is a must.The Lord is with you man of God.He will keep you and preserve you unto his heavenly kingdom ijn.
What about biblical teaching of tithing? What is your correction about it bcos it's not biblical in New Testament Church.
Acts 19: 11-12 says people brought handkerchiefs and aprons to Paul then later to their sick ones who were healed. Teaching has to be balanced
To be sincere, this man is on point...Peter was true man of God, even walked with Jesus, but when he erred Paul rebuked him. Pls DSA be teaching and correcting calmly like this always rather than the robust style. It sinks in better. God strengthen you.
What value is this man bringing to the table. Apostle Ayo Babalola was a phenomenon in Nigeria and also arch Bishop Idahosa. How can someone say that this Great people died early because God felt that they damaged the Church. I pray God will forgive this man. Jesus gave his life to the church not Pa Elton. Who is this one? the business man in Ukraine
Imagine a man of God Reading the bible with his phone on the altar of God..... He is pointing out the mistakes
Is there anything wrong with reading the word of God through your device?
I can't just understand how in the africa every pastor is wrong and you are the only one that is right. I don't think you have done even 1tenth of what the Great father's faith did before they left
"My father was the Area Superintendent of the Apostolic Church in charge of Ilesa, Ekiti, Akoko and Kabba, now in Kogi State.What were the practices then that were anti-Christianity'Idols. My father met Prophet Joseph Babalola at Oke-Oye, Ilesa. I met him too when I was a young girl, burning idols because people were predominantly idol worshippers. All sorts of charms retrieved by Prophet Babalola were brought to the crusade at Oke-Oye and were set ablaze" Mama Ruth Elton, the only child of Pa. S. G. Elton
I wish you can please come to Nigeria and start a church you think is right?
GOD worked mightly with babalola.. It doesn't matter what u are talking about, GOD knows the best.
Just like God worked mightyly with Samson, king Solomon & so many men that imported human traditions & some satanic pattern of running ministries in their walk with God.
No one is saying that Babalola & Idahosa did not work mightyly for God.
We are saying that we should learn from their mistakes in their work with God.
Go get knowledge ok
BECAUSE KNOWLEDGE IS LIGHT.
God worked mightily through Alexander dowie too, though he ended in error.
ALL MEN OF GOD ARE HUMANS AND WILL MAKE ERRORS- IT'S FOR THE CHURCH TO ROOT OUT THESE ERRORS.
I understand his intentions here, but I do not agree with him on Apostle Babalola being an illiterate... He keeps a diary (a man that keeps a diary is not an illiterate) 🙏
@@dledgeproductions1795 SDA is not a discreet and humble man. If he was, he would know that babalola was educated upto standard 4. Thus babalola wasn't illiterate but semi-literate. Remember that biblical understanding is not a function of just normal literacy as even Adeboye who had a PhD consulted pa Elton too for tutelage.
@@IamGodSon I agree with you 💯He did his work the way God commands and the results proves that... 🙏
My own take on Dr. Sunday Adeleja is that the things he is saying is the truth. Bro Gbile Akanni and some few men of God in Nigeria have been teaching this truth but it seems these things have become so popular now that many thought nothing is wrong with them. If we truly focus on Jesus who is the patterned Son, we know that the kind of things we do as men of God can not be traced to Him.
Gbile Akanni is never in the class of Sunday Adelaja. Please don't compare a Holy Spirit-filled man with a demon-possessed soul.
@@ppassman7439 be quite... Gbile Akanni has said so for long...the fact he's not saying it on TH-cam and adelaja is doesn't make him more spirit filled than DSA
I don't know why people get annoyed when the truth is been said. Idahosa and Babalola were great men of God that made their mistakes which is costing the Nigerian churches today an ordeal. We should learn from their mistakes and make corrections instead of imitating their mistakes. Thank you DSA for bringing these truths public
Tell them.....church on commercials....what a disappointment and huge disgrace. God doesn't need their commercials
Someone gets DD in one mushroom sch abroad then return as a Christian witch or wizard. Soon...performed abracadabra and becomes international evangelist.....these ones on this path need help
There's a difference between truth and jabberwockies
No doubt Sunday Adelaja is an Apostolic reformer bringing the church to the standards of the Holy Scriptures.
PA Elton first set foot in Nigeria in March 1937, by then Babalola had been used mightily by God to bring revival in Nigeria so how can anyone say PA Elton was spiritual father or mentor to Babalola ? That is just not true !
Pa Elton helped introduce the Apostle Babalolas ministry overseas in conjunction with Pa Odubanjo
That doesn't make him his spiritual father
.....enough said indeed, I learnt greatly from this. Thanks greatly for these series Pastor Sunny, God will increase your wisdom brother!
There's nothing wise in what Sunday Adelaja has said here... The best he's done is to mess the little truth he uttered in bits with plenty of lies, misinterpretations and misrepresentations.
If I wave my hands now or suit and people get touched by the power of Gos..it is error because you dont operate in those things..let the evangelist bonke you so much love does that here in Africa.
I love you sir, please stop being distracted when you're in air, you always look around and correct people in the studio
If you want to preach Bible and established all that is in the Bible..then preach it..dont condemn anyone's work..you didn't call them to it..preach what you think it is the right standard and people who wants to follow you will,
you dont preach what you think is right standard my friend, you preach the WORD OFGOD
Pentecostalism has seen a mighty revival as far back as 1930 from Joseph Babaloloa through the grace of God and Pa Elton first set his foot in Nigeria in 1937!
"they were not under him, but they saw him as their mentor". He didn't claim that Pa Elton started first in Nigeria. There's room for spiritual growth even among pastors. Even the apostles in the Bible grew spiritually.
I encourage everyone to read Ayodeji Abodunde's books - Messenger (Elton and the Making of Pentecostalism in Nigeria) and A Heritage of Faith (A History of Christianity in Nigeria) for a broader treatment of this topic and more detail on how Christianity has fared in Nigeria. He's a genuine child of God, an excellent author and his works are well researched. His books will inform, challenge and encourage you. God bless you!
Please where can we get his books?
Please where can I get these books
Tb Joshua used these mediums like faith bracelets, tb Joshua stickers, and morning water, supposedly for conveying the power of God which means continuation of babalola , babalola died at 55, tb Joshua died at 57 I don't know much about idahosa.
So..people will deliberately go to bring bad water for them to drink after it was prayed upon..abi? Leave their water, bell and the rest to them.. It is not harming anyone..let them believe in the power of Gos that can be communicated through those things..
I am a pastor in Kenya,in the city of Nairobi, East Africa, what pastor Sunday is teaching is a pure truth, GOD IS A SPIRIT.... WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING MATERIAL TO TRANSMIT THE POWER OF THE LIVING GOD. FAITH IN WHO HE IS WILL GET THE JOB DONE without any external assistance. My problem with him is when he mentions the names of the servants of God.
Bringing balance to the Church.
Sir please Pa Elton is not the of Father of Pentecostal in Nigeria, Pa Elton was in Ilesa before Oke Oyedepo revival and Sir Pa Elton came to Joseph Ayodele Babalola in Ido Ile mountain to pray with him. Sir the English missionaries did not prreach the pure gospel in Nigeria and African countries but religion.
Castigating against Babalola, You need deliverance MOG.
The problem of Pentecostals is poor listener ship...this gentle is very clear in his discussion, but here you are calling it castigation, when shall we grow up surely.Obviously Babalola like any other man had his mistakes which we ca learn from. what is wrong with talking about them.
He needs very serious deliverance
@@FULLCOUNSEL So this Dr is the best of them all. No mistake with him ? You should know that God will often tell prophets somethings that are not directly stated in the Bible and that does bot make it a sin or error. He is God alone and the Bible can not contain or show all things God will ever do.
@@hezecomp what do you know about the prophetic sir? And do you suppose God will do anything outside His own Revealed/Written Word?
Now listen and learn..
There are 4 degrees of the prophetic anointing or grace namely;
1. The gift of prophecy
2. The Spirit of prophecy
3. Office of the Prophet
4. Prophecy of Scriptures (The Written Word of God)
The first 3 are fallible and the level of inspiration in its reception doesn't measured up or anywhere close to what the Holy prophets of old received in Writing the Scriptures which Is Infallible.
All revelations received by any of the first 3 are to be judged by the Scriptures even, Prophecy of Scriptures..
In understanding be man!
@@pastorfred2543 please back your talk with scriptures. If you don’t have proof from the scriptures then it’s a lie
Men and women of God that are genuinely called do receives divine revelations and directives from God.
It’s about personal and divine encounters they have with God.
Jesus promised to back us up in the gospel with signs and wonders.
We should not be quick to judgement; if we were not there when they have divine encounters.
Our holy lives and righteousness is the peak of all things.
Jesus did many things that were not written in the Bible. We can get all others from the Homy Spirit, given to us as the church. John 21:25
God’s work are infinite
I know fit laugh a beg...your revelation cannot be above the Word of GOD.
God performed special miracles through Apostle Paul using handkerchiefs and aprons!.
Pa Elton never referred himself as Babalola's mentor. Babalola started his ministry in NIGERIA 1928, Pa Elton came to NIGERIA 1937. Did God told you that He took away Babalola so as to stop him from destroying the church??? Please stop giving false information!!!
go and read ur history books. u should ask questions and learn not trying to defend ur idol rather than learning the truth
@@gods-judgement23 What truth have you learnt bro! The truth of criticism?
@@bl_pan is criticism evil?
Mark 6:13 "And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them". Act_19:12 "So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them." James 5:14 "Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord". John_6:54 Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Pst Adelaja come back to Nigeria and give us a model of how to run a church by starting one. Not just talking. After all the gospel is not in word but in power.
BALOGUN DIMEJI , if you can’t see /hear any impact in the church pastor Sunday Adelaja , it means you are using lanterns all the time in your home , it’s a pity for you and your friends, if you have good friends like Dr Anu and Dr Bamshaye, Mr lsreal , you will know what is going on in the world and GO’s churches. Try to be reading bible, Dimeji starts from New Testament and ask Holy Spirit to give you understanding. If you are still struggle to understand pastor Sunday Adelaja teachings once again is a pity am very sad for your comments 😂😂😂 . May the Lord help you in Jesus Christ s name amen.
BALOGUN DIMEJI
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER & LIGHT OK.
HUMBLE YOURSELF AND GET IT.
WHY DON'T YOU GO LEARN,STUDY & RESEARCH ABOUT DSA BEFORE SAYING THAT HE'S JUST TALKING.
YOU THAT IS NOT JUST TALKING, HOW FAR HAVE YOU GONE IN CHANGING THIS USELESS & FOOLISH NIGERIA MINDSET AND MENTALITY WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEM IN NIGERIA.
@@jesuschrististhelordbolaji3599 you need help
@@amobichukwugabriel1901 So, what has he done
@@bl_pan go make your research about dsa first, then you can come back and ask me that childish question OK.
If the under development & the extreme poverty that almost all THE RELIGIOUS LEADERS & THE POLITICAL LEADERS IN NIGERIA HAVE SUBJECTED THIS NATION TO IS OK & ENJOYING TO YOU,
THEN YOU MUST BE MORE WICKED & WORST THAN THE DEVIL 😈 HIMSELF.
BETTER REPENT OF YOUR IGNORANCE & EMBRACE KNOWLEDGE, IF NOT YOU WILL PERISH BECAUSE IGNORANCE OF THE TRUTH, KILLS & TAKES TO HELL MORE THAN ANY DEADLY DISEASE IN THE WHOLE WORLD.
THANK YOU MY DEAR.
Being illiterate or literate doesn’t commend or disqualify anyone to God
One person that learned correctly the principles taught by PA Elton is Bro Gbile Akanni. Glory to God that we have someone carrying the correct and balanced Gospel.
So the gospel is correct and balanced because it came through a white man abi?🤔
@@kasondelesa5426 that's your perception from the post. Whether white or black, he had a man who taught him the word and in whose life he saw Christ that he could imitate. Listen to DSA again, he's one man that he has respect for as far as life and ministry is concerned. God will show us mercy to learn correctly.
Well, to me in my opinion it is not the illiteracy aspect because other literate and we'll educated men of God in Nigeria and the world today had errors in one way or the other.
Can you think of anointing oil and other methods used for healing and deliverance in church today?
We know in part and prophecies in parts.
I think to accept correction is the best virtue to the leader and followers.
Moreso, we must not forget the fact that Satan doesn't want God's kingdom be established that is the reason for deciding and distracting men of God and the church from getting the best.
May He keep us from errors that will land us to hell 🙏🙏
Please I am open to correction also if you discovered anything wrong in my statement here.
May we remain in his vineyard
Idahosa never used physical items to proves power, he used God's word as authority,
That wasn't why he was called home jare, all the practices still remains so..nothing was corrected by God about that for taking him home..
So why did he die at such a young age and as a healthy person.
@@IamGodSon you can die when your body is already over used. You can also die when your assignment is actually finished and ended and nothing more. You can also die if you so desire God take you home that you think by yourself that you are done or fulfilled.
@@Bim-Hopfan his assignment was finished? Many oldtimers are still around whose jobs apparently isn't finished- OF COURSE that's a weak excuse we profer when we can't accept what appears to be the truth.
History shows many MOG who died young when they entered into error.
Most accounts state the babalola was healthy in his last year, thus the errors he introduced must have precipitated his early demise as God intended to correct his error in the upcoming generation. I believe Sam happened with Benson idahosa. That doesn't mean that they achieved great marvels for God, even as Moses did. But Moses made errors too, it just means they're humans not wrong.
@@IamGodSon smiles. Your theology is wrong bro. Error or no Error those make God call you home in other to correct it. Hell No!
I wouldn't even argue far;
Is pastor Adeboye no working in some errors in his ministry?
Is pastor Kumuyi not working in some errors in his ministry?
Is DK olukoya not working in some errors in his ministry?
His pastor Chris not working in some errors in his ministry?
Is Benny Inn not working I name errors in his ministry?
Didn't Billy Graham worked in some errors in his ministry before his demise at a very old age?
Look, men are prone to errors and none is perfect..we only strive to be perfect in our work for Him.
Moses didn't die because of errors, God specifically told him to go to the mountain and die. His time was up..simple!
Joshua walked in more errors more than Moses.
Samuel walked in errors. David walked in a whole lot of errors! God didn't kill them. Once your time is up..your time is up!
Every reasons for early death are what I have listed in my comment above. Nothing more thing less. That Ayo Babalola died doesn't change everything and anything he laid down in CAC till date. Infact Apostle Timothy Obadare of CAC Koseunti Walked in everything Ayo Babalola laid down and still died at a very old full age. Infact Baba Abiye of Ori Oke Ede walks in strange powers and does everything Ayo Babalola did..and he is still alive and of age.
Sir, Nigerian church didn't miss anything, we are fully equipped... And we are still learning. You can not know all the ways of God DSA, it was a progression that the Nigerian Church had not regretted.. And we the new generation never regretted it..we only worked on it...and we would work on it more as the holyghost leads us...he is the promise to the church.
U can't c the error in Nigeria church because u are not spiritual, you are not call to the ministry, you are just a pastor followers
@@johnadeoye3559 what exactly are you saying?
Mind you, this post was made three years ago and I still maintained my stand.
No one knows all the ways of God, and the church is growing and growth is progressive. This doesn't mean there are no errors and that we are oblivion of them, Everyone called will do what they can do and vacate the scene. Whatever error they made was because they were humans. We know there are errors and the holy ghost know how to handle them, what to do about them and how to correct them.
He remains the promise to the Church.
talking about his death (22:02) it seems you dont know about the strong hold of darkness in Nigeria then. and is like God showed you his mind before calling the apostle home. pls come and establish your ministry in Nigeria. Let see if u will do better.
Thank you my bro.
Phillip Oluwatobi
I'm an ordained minister of God in CAC. I've been following this man with great caution in his videos for a long time. I dislike some of his approach and way of talking, but I see him being more cautious in this video and I think this man is just correct about what he's saying.
I heard it years back that God sent one white man to Babalola back then but that he didn't really follow him.
I suppose Pa. Elton came during the The Apostolic Church schism of "healing without drugs" which led to Babalola breaking out to found CAC.
Whatever happened happened because of ignorance and should not be ignored.
Truth is that the Nigerian church is presently very sick and needs healing which cannot just happen by discarding the historical root-cause of it.
God help us 🙏
@@Adewumi0801 Babalola is not the founder of CAC get it right sirv
@@dayoking1438 must be ministry be founded by one man? 3 people were involved in its founding including babalola.
I think this man needs help (prayer)
He's gone beyond repair....
I think it's you that is having the greater problem
My brother you are telling the truth ohh Lord help us.
I understand you're intentions here... But a man that keeps a diary is not an illiterate🙏
DSA has some big points you know especially the Papa thing in Churches. It makes the Men of God think that they are now gods.
What is wrong with us black people even the learned among us? We don't value ourselves but castigate and drag to the mud our God's given gifts. Read about all those tagged worldwide as God's generals of Babalola's time and tell me who can compare with Babalola on fighting the kingdom of darkness. Tell me. Even the white missionaries said so.
good no revelation of God can be contrary to his word
How do you know, or who told Babalola was arguing with Pa Elton? I think you are having a ministry of criticism!
why don't you read history and learn
@@gods-judgement23 please who wrote the history? You people better not annoy the Holy spirit. Why is Pa Elton his standard for what he is saying? The Bible is the standard. Even in the New testament, Jesus healed using Clay
I think I heard that the instruments was handed to him physically and they said the bell is still at ijearaji till today.
May God bless us all in Jesus' name.Sir,with all due respect given to you,I would like to ask you this question.
The Old and the New Testament are they not the word of God and these elements were not used by God's elects? Why are you crying down modern day men of God?
God asked Moses what he was haven at hand ? and Moses responded by saying rod and through it God manifested His glory. Apostle Paul also used the handkerchief to heal and bless his people.
It is good to criticize but let it be on fact.
Thank you sir.
Thank you pastor Sunday for your uncompromising teaching of the word of God against heresy and paganism in the Nigerian and many other countries in Africa. Also Papa = Pope, it's all heretical
Whao, these are things we never got to hear. Thank you DSA for informing us!
I'm following DSA with caution.
I love what he's doing, but I'm scared about his method. Still following though.
You are following a demon-possessed man with 'caution'? Beware!
In your own eyes..everything you have is the correct, yet..I can point out 10things that are not correct that you which is not according to scriptures. mand you are walking in error on them..let's be humble..God calls men and men are meant to have their weaknesses..you do have your obvious weaknesses too DSA
You call a so-called pastor who said with his own mouth that he committed adultery with over 30 women in his own church as having a 'weakness'? Sunday Adelaja is demon-possessed.
There a whole lot of misconception here!! I think when you are to do rebuttal, let's use the Bible, not what someone else's said, therefore if I am to do some rebuttal to this and I am saying that someone said and the other said without using the Bible, then we are doom...
Error here! A lie. Pa Elton did not anoint Babalola. Apost Babalola was educated. Any education above primary 5 cannot be categorized as illiteracy. Another mistake you are making is that not all revelations we get from God can be directly traced to the Bible. If you had attended Kenneth Hagin’s Bible School, you would have had a taste of prophetic training. So who anointed Apostle Babalola ? Peter in Bible was also no educated. So by listening to you now, you have the mindset that you know more than all these great men of God in Nigeria. Ha ha ha! Oga ooo. A number of North American prophets also used physical elements during the voice of healing. Apostle Paul used anointed handkerchief to heal. Peter’s shadow healed people and all these in N.T Bible. Please stop ridiculing Nigerians churches.
With all respect pastor ~ the bells, the bottle of water and rod may be wrong but definetely not the olive oil and handkerchief those are very scriptural.
No the first gospel was preached to Ethiopian Eunuch Africa. Is is in the book of Acts.
That European does things in a way doesn't make us do it in their ways..we are different, and it is not everything they do that is in the Bible..they formed most of their doctrines by the way they think and reason.
God bless you richly sir, objects can never be greater than the word of God. We walk by faith and not by sight. May Almighty God continue to empower you, sir!
By the way, if Joshua walked everywhere with a staf....why not Pa Babalola??
Children of the same father fighting over the Father's goods is a resume of today's church . Until the Lord returns.
God bless you, DSA. l pray that they will understand this message. You will leave long.
He should leave now I think
Most of time people are sticked on instructions that God gave to certain kind of man as babalola
God can use anything to do His work. Jesus Christ used clay and spit mixed with clay to heal the blind man.
I am really surprised about this preacher???
Please let's stop all this, we are the Body of Christ, the devil is using us against ourselves, lord open our eyes
Have you heard from pastor Chris what took him to TB joshua's church before making a conclusion? Be sure you are saying the truth about him on this subject.
As many as are led by the Spirit is what you don't understand the real meaning. You are only quoting letters and Paul said letters killeth.
Dr. Adelaja, the narrative is not correct about Babalola. He was a trained Mechanical Engineer and hence he was holding with no link to spirituality when he later dropped when people were having meanings to it.
The handbell was a means of getting a decorum because there was insufficient sound system.
And for clarifications, Pa Elton did not train Babalola and his team please check very well . For more enquires check the books written Pastor Dayo Oluwamakin, Pastor Olu Ashaju and Pastor Olowe.
Your facts are not correct about CAC and the calling of Babalola.
Thanks
Thank you DSA, you are doing a great a job for God's Kingdom.
Many times, the one that "hears" about a Revelation/Encounter would not fully grasp the "depth" of the Revelation/Encounter.
Therefore the receiver of the Revelation/Encounter must be very careful to "guard" what was communicated to him/her during the Encounter.
Sir, truth is bitter but it must be said. All the things you're talking about is correct and true. You're just speaking the mind of God. But most Nigerian Christians can't understand what you're talking about, because they're so ignorant of the teachings of Christ, which is the new testament version of the Bible.
I can't blame you though
Now I know this guy is just speaking from his own knowledge not from the Holy Spirit, if you are called by God, he must give you a specific instruction for your ministry, that’s why some men of God are everywhere, mr Sunday what instructions has God given you, and I’m not saying some of them practicing this things heard from God, but some your explanation is purely based on your own opinion
I don’t trust you Man.
Apostle Peter was used by God but when he made a mistake his fellow Apostle Paul rebuked him publicly. Therefore if DSA thinks that some Church Leaders erred, he is at liberty to point out whatever he thinks went wrong. the discussion that we will then have will only serve to make us better. We know what politicians do when they are criticized. As Believers, we should not allow church leaders to silence us the way these politicians have done. For how will we improve if we cannot openly discuss the merits and demerits of those who preceded us?
Thanks
Error or no error, individuals encounter with GOD is the altimate thing , why do you think you want to belief the same religion that the slave master introduced ?
I've never seen an Authentic kingdom minded man of God like DSA.
Authentic???
Go and ask for raw power of the holyspirit,not the diluted and polluted ones that powers of darkness give to some people to derail and waterdown great works God has done through his servants.
So,what do you have to say about Jesus when spat on sand and use it to make a paste to make the blind man see. Is that paganism also?.You also said God took Babalola because of the issue of Objects,where did you see such revelation or demonic lies from. Better do not bring curse on yourself and unborn generation. The water at Ara-Keji and some mountains in Nigeria that people go there without even any pastor around and it does uncountable miracles and healings,what do you have to say about that.If you doubt,carry a bottle of water wherever you are in the world,read psalms and pray into it with faith and see whether it would not heal sickness or do wonders.
This Papa heresy. Grandparents are calling little boys 'Papa". This is the abomination of desolation the bible says
There is a picture in your book titled "The Jesus you Never Knew". When you place an image in a book to depict Jesus, you commit idolatry; for you shall not make any image to depict God, for Jesus is God. The sin of ignorance is not excusable before God; Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; Acts17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent: