Great interview! I'm so glad to see someone from Brazil as the first one. And the fact you chose a girl, when is so hard to find girls working with code in Brazil, is great. I have a channel about programming in portuguese, and girls are only 3% of the audience. Congrats for your content, it is the best, and you are an inspiration.
The part about optimizing for low-end phones is very true for India as well, despite the increasing prevalence of 4G networks. This was a great interview.
Glad you liked it, and great parallel to india too. I really should have someone from India on the show, now that you mention it. Getting the perspective of devs from other places is much more useful that one thinks at first glance. Code is the same everywhere, connections are not.
Excellent interview. Isa discussed very important points. No days we are not talking about the important things as developers. We talk about the best new framework or how to use the new cool thing. But is so nice to hear a developer focus on the ‘actual’ important aspects. Availability for everyone. “Fabulous for everyone” - Isa.
Very good interview. I also struggled a bit with different cultures being a Brazilian working in Ireland. But in the end is a two way contribution, they also learn a lot with us :D
Truth. Working with people from different cultures are certainly not frictionless, but doing so has forced me to become a MUCH better communicator than I was before working in a multi-national.
This is an excellent interview. Honestly, I feel the brunts of failures all the time, I think you've spoke on this before though, in one of your personal videos. But I feel like every damned talk is about the new THING, but not how does the community feel about this thing, or how is the community doing, and what the community is developing for. Excellent video.
This was awesome! It's great to know that Isa is flying in her career and also is good to know from where she started. Thanks and looking forward to the next interview.
Exactly! I was really happy with how down to earth the interview got, and really, all of the interviewees shared this trait. I really want the interview series (and the show in general) to show the real joy and strife of real programmers, and not a veil of professional and cool that we put up.
Great interview! Talk about failure sure is not a common thing, but this is so wrong. This should never be a taboo because we're failing all the time and this just turns us more wise with our choices and make us more and more strong for our next projects and the more we fail, more close we are to success. We just have to keep on giving our best every and every day! :D
That was a great interview. It was thought provoking. I hope it gives us as individuals and teams something to think about in terms of how we should approach our work, of not investing so much of our egos into what we create, eliminating blame culture and not allowing a culture of 'superstar' coders to form but to remain, inclusive of all members, and focused on experimentation via what the data tells us.
Isa Silveira is so rock star!! 💪Would love an opportunity to maybe work on a team with her some day. Impressed with her wisdom, curiosity, and openness. Great things here @funfunfunction
What really matters is how we react to failure. We need to learn from ours mistakes of course, but we shouldn't freak out about what we can't control. We can not control failure. The best you can do is to expect it and to be as best prepared as you can. Again... What really matters is how we react to it. If you break something you can learn from it, fix it (or not) and apologize... or... you can go home running and cry out loud.
@24:59 MPJ talks about people having one big project success, and suddenly thinking that everything else they do will turn out to be gold. That mentality is one of the reasons CD Projekt Red failed their fans with Cyberpunk. They had this idea of: "We made The Witcher 3, we can do anything", and just look how well this turned out. Also, cheers from Brazil!
nice one : ) I just really liked those 10 minutes I watched it. I did not have time to finish it because I'm at work, so I left it for the evening. Also I can totally relate to the title - "Fearless by loving failure".
Thank you so much, I don't mind that you're a trigger happy commenter, I'm the same, haha. A always share and comment on stuff way before I finished watching it because I get so excited when I find good stuff.
About the course, the same happened to me. I thought I would learn the maintenance of hardware pieces, then I learned to program and it changed my life.
Imposter syndrome is really frustrating, because I feel like the root cause with programmers having that is really specific to their field - so there‘s hardly anybody to talk about that stuff. Embracing failure as a necessity to learn from it is so incredibly important to deal with the fear of „do they see me as a mere script kiddie?“. But I feel like society (I’m generalizing but it’s a repeated observation) emphasizes „qualification“ a thousand times more than „experience“. So, in order to be good at whatever you do, you better enroll in some (bullshit) course, or else you don‘t have a say in whatever matter it is. Failure means that you lack the talent to follow instructions in said course, or wherever else. It is frowned upon. The expectation becomes to regurgitate facts, ideally blurring the line between brain and book, at infinte efficiency. It‘s all so archaic and highly destructive. An anti-pattern if I ever saw one. I’ve seen many people, as a result, be heavily dependant for even the most mundane tasks, instead of educating themselves (or just GOOGLE it ffs) and experimenting where necessary. Maybe it‘s also because we‘re just too freaking comfortable. Enough ranting. Dedicating time to experimentation and having the clear expectation of possibly failing (and specifically planning around that) is so incredibly important, yet heavily underestimated, so yeah. Really good interview and something I‘d recommend watching just for that whole bit. (I specifically paused to write this, brb watching the rest of the video)
That was so good! Isa is great, and the topics were so nice, and very relevant here in Brazil, were indeed people have shit phones and even shittier internet connections.
@TemplaiN what ur saying is probably right. I did feel that he does a little bit of over generalization. What I like about his books is the perspective he looks at certain scenarios which I would not think like. Obviously there are other ways to look at it, you can find your own perspective if you thought about it for some time. But his perspective is getting published and some people have this "ahaaa" moment after they read it. whether it is due to lack of better understanding, that is not something I would want to decide.
If you want to build out an API, but don't have data/looking for more, you can grab data sets off sites like kaggle. It will give you an opportunity to work with larger quantities of data, rather than generating rows/documents yourself.
You made a great point about "The lost art". Apart from making things widely accessible - Why not build the web in a clever way so to take away another legitimate reason from people to working hard just to be able to get "the latest shit" from the market ? ; - D
hahaha, learnings. Me and David have not done these things before so picking the location for shooting interviews turned out less than stellar. Basically: Avoid having to deal with the sun. Also, the wide angle camera was slightly overexposed on the interview so I had to match that in order to not make the cuts too jarring. We'll do a lot better next time.
You don't have to explain yourself to me :)) but I appreciate it ;) kudos for the initiative, anyways, and let's not forget the most important thing here: you've asked relevant questions, and we all learnt lots of things. Kudos to you, sir! and keep up ;)
It's an unscripted casual conversation and we talk like we do in private rather than the polished speaker and TH-cam personas we usually carefully present. I swear tons too but it doesn't show much here in the parts that remain in the edit. I polish myself a lot in the videos after the first year or so because the Americans are so offended but I really prefer when I can swear a lot. The conversion becomes more raw and honest.
Boa segunda feira de manhã, Brasil!
Bom dia!
Obrigado!
É nóis jão
Bom dia MPJ
Bom dia!
Great interview! I'm so glad to see someone from Brazil as the first one. And the fact you chose a girl, when is so hard to find girls working with code in Brazil, is great. I have a channel about programming in portuguese, and girls are only 3% of the audience. Congrats for your content, it is the best, and you are an inspiration.
The part about optimizing for low-end phones is very true for India as well, despite the increasing prevalence of 4G networks. This was a great interview.
Glad you liked it, and great parallel to india too.
I really should have someone from India on the show, now that you mention it. Getting the perspective of devs from other places is much more useful that one thinks at first glance. Code is the same everywhere, connections are not.
Excellent interview. Isa discussed very important points. No days we are not talking about the important things as developers. We talk about the best new framework or how to use the new cool thing. But is so nice to hear a developer focus on the ‘actual’ important aspects. Availability for everyone. “Fabulous for everyone” - Isa.
Very good interview. I also struggled a bit with different cultures being a Brazilian working in Ireland. But in the end is a two way contribution, they also learn a lot with us :D
Truth. Working with people from different cultures are certainly not frictionless, but doing so has forced me to become a MUCH better communicator than I was before working in a multi-national.
It's awesome! Thank you guys.
Finally someone interviews programmers.
I have some interviews too
I just found this channel today! So addicted with the great content you make!
Greetings from Brazil!
Very solid interview, I really enjoyed watching you two speak. Absolutely love the candidness.
This is an excellent interview. Honestly, I feel the brunts of failures all the time, I think you've spoke on this before though, in one of your personal videos. But I feel like every damned talk is about the new THING, but not how does the community feel about this thing, or how is the community doing, and what the community is developing for. Excellent video.
This was awesome! It's great to know that Isa is flying in her career and also is good to know from where she started. Thanks and looking forward to the next interview.
Good to see a Brazilian tech woman shining.
This discussion was so great! Isa is wonderful on so many levels and kept the talk "real". Looking forward to the remaining chats, MPJ!
Exactly! I was really happy with how down to earth the interview got, and really, all of the interviewees shared this trait. I really want the interview series (and the show in general) to show the real joy and strife of real programmers, and not a veil of professional and cool that we put up.
Great interview! Talk about failure sure is not a common thing, but this is so wrong. This should never be a taboo because we're failing all the time and this just turns us more wise with our choices and make us more and more strong for our next projects and the more we fail, more close we are to success. We just have to keep on giving our best every and every day! :D
So nice! I've watched her talk in BrazilJS last month and i love it. Nice to see you two together!
Thx to you Isa for last minutes of this video.Realy appreciate that, beautiful and inspiring words
That was a great interview. It was thought provoking. I hope it gives us as individuals and teams something to think about in terms of how we should approach our work, of not investing so much of our egos into what we create, eliminating blame culture and not allowing a culture of 'superstar' coders to form but to remain, inclusive of all members, and focused on experimentation via what the data tells us.
You can rename to Great Great Interview. Thanks for this talk.
This is so honest and good!
5:58 was very fun. These interview format is awesome
It is, isn't it! I must do more!
Drop the database
This was a great interview, Isa seems so down to earth and smart!
"down to earth AND smart" i.e not 'Murican.
Good Monday morning.
Good Afternoon :D
Pleeeease, more of this!!! Excellent interview MPJ!!!
Isa Silveira is so rock star!! 💪Would love an opportunity to maybe work on a team with her some day. Impressed with her wisdom, curiosity, and openness. Great things here @funfunfunction
Absolutely true! Working on projects that fail can lead to things that don't . I'm living that one right now!
"I failed and I survived, so I can move on". Inspiring!
What a great episode! I've learnt so much.
Great interview! Thank you MPJ and Isa!
This is identity. Thank you for this conversation!
What really matters is how we react to failure. We need to learn from ours mistakes of course, but we shouldn't freak out about what we can't control. We can not control failure. The best you can do is to expect it and to be as best prepared as you can. Again... What really matters is how we react to it. If you break something you can learn from it, fix it (or not) and apologize... or... you can go home running and cry out loud.
This is pure gold. Thank you!
Super inspiring! Thanks Isa and MPJ!
@24:59 MPJ talks about people having one big project success, and suddenly thinking that everything else they do will turn out to be gold. That mentality is one of the reasons CD Projekt Red failed their fans with Cyberpunk. They had this idea of: "We made The Witcher 3, we can do anything", and just look how well this turned out.
Also, cheers from Brazil!
That interview is soooo gooood ^^ You are awesome guys
you managed to watch the video in minus 20 minutes!
in the settings you can increase the speed to 2x.
Yup so he managed to watch it in minus 6minutes then at double speed ;)
nice one : ) I just really liked those 10 minutes I watched it. I did not have time to finish it because I'm at work, so I left it for the evening. Also I can totally relate to the title - "Fearless by loving failure".
Thank you so much, I don't mind that you're a trigger happy commenter, I'm the same, haha.
A always share and comment on stuff way before I finished watching it because I get so excited when I find good stuff.
About the course, the same happened to me. I thought I would learn the maintenance of hardware pieces, then I learned to program and it changed my life.
Thank you mpj this is very good interview! I learn a lot from it
Imposter syndrome is really frustrating, because I feel like the root cause with programmers having that is really specific to their field - so there‘s hardly anybody to talk about that stuff. Embracing failure as a necessity to learn from it is so incredibly important to deal with the fear of „do they see me as a mere script kiddie?“. But I feel like society (I’m generalizing but it’s a repeated observation) emphasizes „qualification“ a thousand times more than „experience“. So, in order to be good at whatever you do, you better enroll in some (bullshit) course, or else you don‘t have a say in whatever matter it is. Failure means that you lack the talent to follow instructions in said course, or wherever else. It is frowned upon. The expectation becomes to regurgitate facts, ideally blurring the line between brain and book, at infinte efficiency.
It‘s all so archaic and highly destructive. An anti-pattern if I ever saw one. I’ve seen many people, as a result, be heavily dependant for even the most mundane tasks, instead of educating themselves (or just GOOGLE it ffs) and experimenting where necessary. Maybe it‘s also because we‘re just too freaking comfortable. Enough ranting.
Dedicating time to experimentation and having the clear expectation of possibly failing (and specifically planning around that) is so incredibly important, yet heavily underestimated, so yeah. Really good interview and something I‘d recommend watching just for that whole bit. (I specifically paused to write this, brb watching the rest of the video)
Great video, really liked her mindset on failure, going to try to adopt it :)
caracaaaaa isa silveira do lado do mestre dos mestres! parabéns!
Collabs are great 👍. Thank you 🤓
The GDC Failure Workshop videos are worth a watch.
That is a GREAT tip!
She ISA great person and so do you MPJ 😉
He does what?
That was so good! Isa is great, and the topics were so nice, and very relevant here in Brazil, were indeed people have shit phones and even shittier internet connections.
you are providing too much value with your videos ! Couldn't Thank You enough...
MPJ, this and many other episodes are missing from the "All FunFunFunction episodes" playlist!
Ah. I will just delete that playlist, I no longer add to it.
Amazing interview!!!
We need more content like that please :)
Great interview :) She sounded like a really cool individual!
Really interesting, it's hard to think about failures the right way.
Hello Mattias, would you please to share your experience and expertise with PWA and Service Worker?
The book mpj is referring about the Korean air crash is called "Outliers". Awesome book, really changed my perspective
oh thank you so much, I would not remember which one it was. I love the writing of Malcolm Gladwell so much.
@TemplaiN what ur saying is probably right. I did feel that he does a little bit of over generalization. What I like about his books is the perspective he looks at certain scenarios which I would not think like. Obviously there are other ways to look at it, you can find your own perspective if you thought about it for some time. But his perspective is getting published and some people have this "ahaaa" moment after they read it. whether it is due to lack of better understanding, that is not something I would want to decide.
In 2018 Lollipop is still big chunk of the market (Moto G, G2 etc)
Wonderful! More!
Isa eu te amo
Phenomenal video!
She is cool love her.
Awesome interview. Beginner friendly content.
Hey MPJ I finished my tetris game! What should I learn next? Crud-app with backend?
I think that's a great next step! Make sure to pick an app that you think is fun.
If you want to build out an API, but don't have data/looking for more, you can grab data sets off sites like kaggle. It will give you an opportunity to work with larger quantities of data, rather than generating rows/documents yourself.
Thanks Phil! I will definitely check it out!
Great stuff!
great talk
Me, as a Brazilian trying to improve my English, have to say: her English is amazing!!!
You made a great point about "The lost art". Apart from making things widely accessible - Why not build the web in a clever way so to take away another legitimate reason from people to working hard just to be able to get "the latest shit" from the market ? ; - D
23:38 *Nietzsche proudly smiles*
I haven't watched it yet. But I know that it's awesome event after few minutes of the video)
Great great interview! Very honest. Thanks MPJ and Isa. Congratz from Brazil!
Cool, very interesting!
has she quit or finished university? or I hear that wrong?
Killer Interview, so real and a great way to re-look at how one codes
great
nice
Vai Brasilll
the lighting in there is crazy. where are you, heavens ? Is God anywhere around? Anyways, great interview. but daaaamn! my eyes!
hahaha, learnings. Me and David have not done these things before so picking the location for shooting interviews turned out less than stellar. Basically: Avoid having to deal with the sun. Also, the wide angle camera was slightly overexposed on the interview so I had to match that in order to not make the cuts too jarring. We'll do a lot better next time.
You don't have to explain yourself to me :)) but I appreciate it ;) kudos for the initiative, anyways, and let's not forget the most important thing here: you've asked relevant questions, and we all learnt lots of things. Kudos to you, sir! and keep up ;)
BORA BRASILLLLLLLLLL UHUUULLLLL
BR HUE bem representando
You hair white... You are almost a Witcher now.
oh god I feel like playing some Witcher 3 now
Get your pink and purple tint ready for when Cyberpunk 2077 comes.
Ok, I am in love now. Anyway very nice content, This one is gold to me.
Imma go to work tomorrow and drop all production database tables then become AWESOME!
i'm pretty sure that wasn't the moral of the story...
Why is she cursing so many times during the interview? Is this the cool thing nowadays?
You, her and the interview itself were great though, I can definitely relate as I am a Brazilian working in Germany with a multicultural team.
It's an unscripted casual conversation and we talk like we do in private rather than the polished speaker and TH-cam personas we usually carefully present. I swear tons too but it doesn't show much here in the parts that remain in the edit. I polish myself a lot in the videos after the first year or so because the Americans are so offended but I really prefer when I can swear a lot. The conversion becomes more raw and honest.
Tia tequilas daughter
she swears
fuck yea