Why Vulnerable Undersea Cables Still Power The Internet - Cheddar Explains

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  • Undersea cables have been connecting the communication of the world since the Victorian era. Even today, submarine cables transmit 99% of the internet. But the world of undersea cables is vulnerable-so why do we still use them?
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    Energy Industry Review
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    Wired
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    CNN
    www.cnn.com/2019/07/25/asia/i...
    Microsoft
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    Submarine Cable Map
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    ETHW
    ethw.org/Underwater_Cables
    Insider
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    Space.com
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  • @kozmaz87
    @kozmaz87 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think the most resilient way to make the internet work is undersea cables. Satellites are too far away, the ping and the bandwidth is shit and the weather screws up your connection, by far the best way to have lots of fiberoptic cables buried all around.

    • @Ice_Karma
      @Ice_Karma ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That was true for satellites in geostationary orbit, about 35,500 km (22,000 mi) up, but Starlink's satellites orbit in three "shells" at 340, 550, and 1150 km (210, 340, and 710 mi, respectively), roughly 30 to 100 times closer, with a corresponding drop in round-trip time ("ping").

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Ice_Karma good luck with congestion. Starlink users are already complaining how bad congestion is, and it's only gonna get worse the more users are in the system.
      It doesn't scale well.

    • @Sacto1654
      @Sacto1654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also, with undersea cables you don't deal with the "space weather" issues that can affect satellites.

    • @Elitrian
      @Elitrian ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Sacto1654 or Kesslar Syndrome...

    • @kozmaz87
      @kozmaz87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also Starlink comes with the same problems as normal satellite internet... it improves some of its metrics but they are still there in particular the weather ones and the ping ones... and introduces new ones like more space debris, it also interferes with astronomy and of course the elephant in the room: it covers an area for magnitudes more cost than satellite internet did before Starlink and it has to cost 100x more than it currently costs to use to recoup the investment. It is already happening btw. the prices are being raised and it will become less and less appealing to the people it claims to want to help such as people in low income countries... LOL. I know that Musk is remarkably talented at siphoning away public funds to his projects and SpaceX has received billions in funding from the US government as well as Tesla but subsidies will end at some point :D

  • @nakibsayyed4999
    @nakibsayyed4999 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    *Shark looks at the cable* : food?
    *bites it, realises not food*
    *Shark* : disappointed

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 ปีที่แล้ว

      a cute mental image

  • @DustyGamma
    @DustyGamma ปีที่แล้ว +80

    If there's ever alien sharks, we're screwed.

    • @cheddar
      @cheddar  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      We don't know there aren't O_o

    • @ikeyshuster9801
      @ikeyshuster9801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or laser beams

  • @hallamhal
    @hallamhal ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Forgetting that satellites are expensive, they're also very vulnerable to space junk, and the more there are the more likely a catastrophic cascade event will happen

    • @crankychris2
      @crankychris2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Today, older satelites ARE space junk.

    • @michaelc1148
      @michaelc1148 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really though what possible odds could there be if Starlink and their friends put another 40,000 satellites (or more?) of a catastrophic Kessler syndrome.
      Hey kids that telescope I bought you for Christmas is completely useless because some jerk didn’t think buying a $44 billion bird app was enough of a vanity project he had fill space with more junk than an X rated movie!
      Course cables have WAAAAY lower latency, far greater bandwidth and cost a fraction that of satellites but do you dig the awesome sound of Musk’s rockets ejaculating off into the cosmic dumpster?

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Satellites will likely never have the low latency high bandwidth and high reliability of a cable connection. As undersea cables get more resilient and numerous to better handle line breaks, satellites are also at the mercy of solar flares. If the sun acts up and has some bigger than normal solar flares, it'll create lots of havoc for satellite communications. This has already been seen with our current satellites. For those on satellite TV, or have satellite radio, you may already be familiar with how the service gets randomly disrupted not only in heavy rain and lightning storms, but have also seen on it get disrupted on a clear day. Those clear day disruptions are often days of high solar activity from the sun.
    A hybrid solution should only really be considered a stop gap option to have a backup for when a good connection goes down. Not a permanent one.

  • @thinkabout602
    @thinkabout602 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great explanation - thanks 🦈

  • @sssdddkkksss
    @sssdddkkksss ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You forgot that scientist deplore the idea of tens of thousands of satellites orbiting earth because it interferes with space observation, and could end up being space junk that tragically inhibits space exploration

    • @uhohhotdog
      @uhohhotdog ปีที่แล้ว

      Moon based observation will be better

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Uhohhotdog Gaming It will be in the future, but not today or any soon. We are yet to build a lunar base, let alone a telescope. Orbital telescope is far more viable, only issue is it is also expensive, and will be hard if not impossible to maintain on much farther orbit.

  • @owenb8636
    @owenb8636 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    For every cheap, effective technology that already exists, Elon has an expensive impractical alternative to try to replace it with

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Like his car in a tunnel?

    • @YTChannel344
      @YTChannel344 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Add unsustainable with those keywords.

    • @YdenMk-II
      @YdenMk-II ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm not a fan of the guy but starlink is an easy way to break into the ISP market that's currently dominated by cable companies that lobbied for laws that prevent people from running new cables. Look up municipal broadband bans for example.

    • @YTChannel344
      @YTChannel344 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@YdenMk-II You think he's any different? He got angry at some Ukrainian guy and decided threaten Ukraine with cutting off internet to Ukrainian military.

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@YTChannel344 I mean, you can agree that Elon is a bad and untrustworthy person while also seeing the technological advancements that his companies bring to scale as useful to society. Like most of his infrastructure ideas are very stupid and impractical, like building hyperloop when high speed rail already exists. But I don't think I would include Starlink in that. Having actually usable satellite internet is a welcome change. There are places that ISPs will never run lines because they don't see a profit motive. Of course I don't think Elon is different in that, but Starlink does make internet accessible in places it otherwise never would be. I guess the argument could be made that we're better off investing in cell data infrastructure, but that has limitations in location accessibility too AFAIK. There are place on Earth in which we just shouldn't build a cell tower, IMO.

  • @EmceeGraffiti
    @EmceeGraffiti ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bruh. There’s an Animal Crossing cable tho? @4:12

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You know how Nintendo often pays for sponsorships to get custom liveries depicting their characters to be put on the sides of planes? Or like how Japan's high speed rail and other infrastructure is often adorned with pictures of Pikachu, for example? Well Nintendo partially subsidized the cost of installation for that transatlantic cable and chose to use it as an opportunity to advertise AC: New Horizons, which was still upcoming and highly awaited at the time.

    • @BoozhiOfficial
      @BoozhiOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Had me for a sec - Atlantic Crossing AC-1 first used in 1999!

    • @DaimyoD0
      @DaimyoD0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoozhiOfficial ;)

    • @EmceeGraffiti
      @EmceeGraffiti ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DaimyoD0 I love it.

    • @EmceeGraffiti
      @EmceeGraffiti ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BoozhiOfficial I’m crying inside and out.

  • @oleksandrbyelyenko435
    @oleksandrbyelyenko435 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Probably because they're not so vulnerable after all

  • @gabrielcaballero4817
    @gabrielcaballero4817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sudden urge to go deep sea diving with comically large scissors

  • @jmtradacc
    @jmtradacc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    30B for Starlink
    Musk: I'm going to put more 10B and buy Twitter

    • @That1PlaceBehindTheBush
      @That1PlaceBehindTheBush ปีที่แล้ว

      StarLink was the one thing that Elon had proposed that I had some excitement about years back.
      Would love to tell the ISP monopolies (AT&T, Comcast, etc) to shove it...but instead we got blue checkmarks for $8. Got a good few laughs out of it, so that was nice I guess.

  • @kirandeepchakraborty7921
    @kirandeepchakraborty7921 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent 👍🏻

  • @azraieruslim
    @azraieruslim ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Im guessing when our data went through the cables, we literaly surfing the ocean.

  • @RBzee112
    @RBzee112 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fiber optic cables were developed in the 1960's.

  • @karimamin2
    @karimamin2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think some sort of global mirror system that reflects beams of light around the world.

  • @battshytkrazy156
    @battshytkrazy156 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    . Y I K E S !!!!

  • @admc8
    @admc8 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what do these cables even plug into ?

  • @james4thedoctor482
    @james4thedoctor482 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alien Sharks 👾 🦈

  • @giovannilusardi8975
    @giovannilusardi8975 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    00:26 monch

  • @Redrios
    @Redrios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    be grateful dial up is not even a thing anymore in Sub-Saharan Africa, omg that was a crime against humanity

  • @cheegum6296
    @cheegum6296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment too went through those cables to get to you

  • @nicolasibarraangotzi4650
    @nicolasibarraangotzi4650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Calling the internet underseas cable system "unreliable", it's just bad journalism.

  • @acem7749
    @acem7749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And no to near orbit satellites as someone that enjoys astronomy I don't want sky pollution. unfortunately most don't care so we will have streaky skies with glimmering satellites everywhere at night.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 ปีที่แล้ว

      I find light pollution from cities way more problematic than satellites that provide more interesting events to look forwards to. The constellations and stars we can see with minimal aid are pretty static and after a minute the "thats cool" factor wears off. In contrast being able to tell someone to look at a particular point in the sky and 1 minute latter you see the ISS go zipping by is really cool. (And most near earth satellites are actually very hard to see and only have an apparent magnitude of like 3 or 4 which is nearly invisible).
      Tldr: tear down useless light pollution like times square or the luxar in new vegas before going after satellites providing actual utility.

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I'M from New York City and I love Times Square, @@jasonreed7522 !

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How are cables laid on the seabed though? Now that’s an interesting Discovery pitch.

  • @daveotuwa5596
    @daveotuwa5596 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:32 By looking at this graph, I can tell Africans are the last to get Internet.🖥

  • @amazon4716
    @amazon4716 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😎

  • @chrisklugh
    @chrisklugh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The internet may have been good for aiding in technological development, but the internet has also created the most isolated and mental dysfunctional people we have ever seen. Is tech more important then our social well-being?

    • @triadwarfare
      @triadwarfare ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The fact that you're leaving this comment is why tech is important. Mental health is just a myth. Now get back to work.

    • @gwgux
      @gwgux ปีที่แล้ว

      On the other hand, the Internet gives people shunned by society a place to be with other people like them so they can have a place to go to unwind and be themselves. Sometimes, reality is harsh and not everyone living in the same town can fit in. There are always outliers. I'd rather have them have a place to go online after school or work than snap and head out to do harm. Who knows, maybe they'll get together and start up a new company that can stand up to the status-quo and change the world yet again. Those that think differently than the rest of us should not always be pushed and shunned out of society.
      The problem is that it's not always easy to find the right crowd online with people who can get through to them and give them something to look forward to in life instead of doing down the dark hole and eventually going postal and/or suicidal over it.
      The Internet allows these problems to be brought to the forefront instead of being tucked under a rug. These are problems that have always been with us since the start of humans living together but now there's no hiding from them now that information spreads around the world in seconds about it. If a kid commits suicide from being bullied IRL or online, the Internet somehow has a way finding out about it and then suddenly it becomes an issue to looked at rather than "kids will be kids, they'll fight it out like we did and be fine" as it's not always fine.
      The Internet has only brought the ugly truth to light, however, we do need to use it better than we have been. Leaving it in the hands of for profit corporations to control what gets recommended the most for viewing HAS hurt society.

  • @nathanhansen1250
    @nathanhansen1250 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want a cable like that baby

  • @YTChannel344
    @YTChannel344 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Simple just make better cables.

  • @orangecat5036
    @orangecat5036 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was a shark i would bite those sucker's all day and night.

  • @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791
    @asdsdjfasdjxajiosdqw8791 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:15 Metric please.

  • @Detteraleon
    @Detteraleon ปีที่แล้ว

    3 sec ago pog

  • @Cartterr.
    @Cartterr. ปีที่แล้ว

    mmh yummy cable

  • @titanicbigship
    @titanicbigship ปีที่แล้ว

    4th

  • @flyingisland7583
    @flyingisland7583 ปีที่แล้ว

    Third

  • @gaoda1581
    @gaoda1581 ปีที่แล้ว

    难道整个世界的网络不佳?

  • @awoiwh
    @awoiwh ปีที่แล้ว

    First

  • @chadwickhjones
    @chadwickhjones ปีที่แล้ว

    Elon or bust

  • @magical_blue
    @magical_blue ปีที่แล้ว

    Elon musk ftw

    • @YTChannel344
      @YTChannel344 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not exactly correct, Abdoooool.

    • @magical_blue
      @magical_blue ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@YTChannel344 my name isn't abdul + abdul isn't a name
      it's abd Al-rahman for example the servant (abd) of the (Al) merciful (rahman) or other 99 names of god

  • @CRiver396
    @CRiver396 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thumbs down for that silly Elon musk statement

  • @PyThomaz
    @PyThomaz ปีที่แล้ว

    If I hear Musk... I discredit the narrative

  • @savemoneylivebetter
    @savemoneylivebetter ปีที่แล้ว

    Someone's not happy about musk buying Twitter. Rip snowflakes.

  • @swankyangelo
    @swankyangelo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The “anyway” when she talked about him spending HIS money on twitter instead of satellites. People feel so entitled to someone else’s money is beyond me! Can we go on without talking about him?

  • @acem7749
    @acem7749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Money well spent, Elon had to pay 44b as the internet would have little value with out freedom of speech.....

  • @uhohhotdog
    @uhohhotdog ปีที่แล้ว

    The UN should take over StarLink for the good of humanity with investment from every member country.

  • @BudStudmuffin
    @BudStudmuffin ปีที่แล้ว

    Why the eff are you telling everyone then