Played against 3 teams like this, but this was pre behemoth nerf, and they were using double dynamo max resilience - they all had super by 2nd round without getting many kills
I matched a team this weekend with two stag warlock with arc buddies and a titan with citans. The worst part is that they only stayed in respawn waiting for us to push or waiting for the flag. We won but that match left me with 4 different types of cancer.
@@Osprey1994 afraid to loose. I’m not any better…I’m ashamed to be a shatter dive, devil’s ruin, Tricksleeves main… 😞😞😞 these guys act like they are then best players in the game though.
@@adeptshadowprice3772 oh yeah I’d agree to an extent, I have ZERO problem with whatever anyone uses. I like that part of destiny. Just the attitude these guys had…idk. Always rubbed me the wrong way.
I’ve heard cammy say that malf is really good in a team setting for countering that playstyle. It doesn’t matter who gets the 5 shots in as every slug works from everyone which guarantees the Insta kill
The whole part from 12:32 till the end! Idk how did you pull that off but my respect for you has gone 10 times higher Wallah! You’re indeed one of the best PvP players from Destiny 2
@@fuhkyu8146 Same, when he said that they were stream sniping was thinking that "Hmh, seems a little sus but might just be a coincendence..." Nope... After viewing the wholeee thing, they definitely came off like they were snipin'.
Fighting Lion does really well against this kind of play style if you spec into reload. Multimach shreds the overshields too. Give it a try if you happen to verse them again.
@@boom-jr8vi If you have armor piercing rounds it will help with champion shields if you have the mod equipped, I believe also barricades but not too sure, overshields never
You think this loadout is bad now…last season the shield negated crit damage. Even if you shot them in a head with an aggressive sniper they wouldn’t die
@@xOmar56x chappy does less dmg than aggressive sniper to the head. I have clips of headshotting ppl with duality and meleeing just for them to stay alive from prev season
that last play was nuts man, them pushing with overshields, and then the knife throw after shotgunning the friend who ran away. High IQ against low IQ, plain and simple.
Sweet business/Actium is a meme Loadout. You want that Super Sweet Business? Pair it with Lion Rampant for some nice aggressive aerial play to get over cover. Pair it with Icefall to hold ground like no other, or to push through an enemy's punishment, to deliver your own. Pair it with Citan's for a similar effect to Icefall, but affecting your whole team. Pair it with (bear with me) Aeon Safe for wicked fast reload (whichever sect essentially gives your guns rapid hit for free, Vigor perhaps?) Pair it with OEM, because duh. Any other synergistic combos between sweet business and exotics? (Especially with other classes)
@@phylazen5649 yeah but at least it wont include infinite abilities and infinite overshields that make 1 trials match into a long agonizing 25 minutes experience
@@snadthe4671 yes it not the best play. But it even worst if you don't even try to help them. Like wallah he sat in the back. When you keep hearing I got him low but no one there to help... this is not even that bad to play against. I beat this many time. You just just need to play it smart push all at one by using your abilitys on there walls and switch too hard light, sweet business, Or that shotgun auto. I push meny people who did this. Can work if you all do it. This combo is easy to stop if you just keep shooting the crystals. Like wallah team mates, unlike wallah they keep shooting even if they don't see them, when wallah is back there complaining
I actually defeated a team doing this by using cloudstrike with khapri sting to get wall hacks. I would wait for one of them to expose their head and when I landed my shot, it would always kill at least 2 and then we would rush the last one. To be fair though, it was on Distant Shore which is much more of an open map so I had many options for angles and flanks.
Not gonna lie, I expect this build to be more prominent than any other titan build once the December update comes. With just how frequent you can make these abilities work, they'll be just as strong if not even stronger. They can cut the cooldowns in half, but when a build is designed to bring back your grenade in an instant, then half of instant is stil good enough.
I went against the same people I played around them and sniped 1 of them Everytime and it was painful tbh but yeah they lost because they relied on it too much they forgot how to use a gun and it was a close game also
And Wallah and his team are the ones who decided to play for zone, they were going for kills, at least on this game, so they are the ones who decided to suffer more lol
I had a similar experience week one of trials this season. One Stag warlock, 2 khepris horn titans, all on stasis, all using witherhoard. They would hide in the hallways near bridge on Burnout and just wait for the point and push as a team. There was nothing we could do because killing them just gave them more special ammo. We lost 5-3, was unbelievably obnoxious
Teamshotting with Mal is the play for these kind of crappy situations. Then stagger nades as you push. 3 warlocks running the gauntlets that buff malfeasance and running an arc buddy build is crazy strong.
Something that could be maaaaaybe be useful is the combo of Cerberus+1 and the antibarrier auto rifle mod, that combo melts Titan shields but idk if it could work in that match I don't even play crucible
I found a very funny way to fight this as a hunter with skip grenades and shinobus, because you get enough energy each throw to basically keep spamming until they die run away or push.
I don’t play Destiny much lately, taking a break till dungeon. But I didn’t know people still did this load out. Perfect example of why the update is happening soon.
It was like that for me when the map was javelin and banner fall two Titans and a hunter all with stasis. If it wasn’t for those particular teams having shitty aim and suck at 1s, it’s almost impossible to win against a comp like this ino
Cam did a video like this with really good players using that type of build. I honestly think it's a good strat using the overshield but playing so passively with it is kinda scummy.
Nah, if you encounter this run 3 fighting lions and just sit and bombard the barricades and crystals, it’s like a guy mentioned above, if you run Bastion or Witherhoard it’s great until you run out of ammo and then you’re back to spamming your primary at what feels like an unbreakable wall.
"They're so toxic bro, they dared play D2 doing anything but peak shot a hand cannon, quickscope, and shotgun slide. I still beat their unconventional strategy which required its own skills and teamwork, but I had to think outside the one way I like to play PvP and god forbid I be so inconvenienced-it's just so TOXIC that I have to play this Trials match even REMOTELY differently than the one way I have been since Destiny began". The fragility on ya, outplay them...or don't and quit right back into the normal Chaperone/Pally clusterfuck. What's actually toxic is whining about the casual shitshow of D2 PvP like this.
So glad you won that I was on the edge of my seat. Going against three ice monkeys is fucked up anyway you look at it. They probably thought they had that one in the bag😂😂
I was expecting 3 stasis Hunters with shatterdive/glacier nade combo, 100 disclipline 2 grenade kickstart mods and frost EE5s getting a glacier nade to shatterdive every 15 seconds.
I played with a team that had heart of inmost light and spammed glacier nades and walls while camping in the middle hallway on bannerfall. We 5-0'd them but it was very obnoxious and dragged the game out. It felt good to take their flawless on game 6 lol
I don't get how the enemy team there could stand doing timer scam strats, literally the most boring way to play e: oh lmao they were stream sniping too, jesus christ
this is the most piss boy tactics ever. fought against 3 of those a couple months ago. 3 stasis titans with cerberus. Malfeaseance actually carried my team through this nightmare
I think I've seen GernaderJake play against them. Several times, in fact. They do stream-snipe, they are all very toxic, they are all salty when losing and very sore winners. They frequently try to match up against streamers for some kind of ego trip and bring this very abusive playstyle most weekends. Whenever it's not triple Behemoth, its triple of whatever is the cheesiest, most annoying builds to play against at that given time, like triple Omni with LoW. Its very sad and disappointing, really. Thank you, Walluh, for ego-checking these cringe-lords.
I mean... it isn't fun to play, or to play against, but if this kind of thing is playing to your strengths to compete... then you gotta do what you gotta do I think
Will this be as effective after the December 8th patch? Or are glacier grenades on a much longer cooldown? I still think Whisper of Rime (overshield) should be disabled in PvP. It's mega cheese.
So are many other things. There is no honour in this game, it is decided on who can cheese harder. The speed wallah moves at with warlock and titan skating is cheesy. At least the enemy team used a strategy anyone can use. Skating is only bound to PC.
glacier grenades are way too op in pvp, it's absurd how large they are and that a goldy shot doesn't even destroy them all stasis is just not meant for pvp
I pray y’all never play against this idk how we won
Unfortunately I did it was 4 to 5 😓
@@kurokuma7123 Same
Played against 3 teams like this, but this was pre behemoth nerf, and they were using double dynamo max resilience - they all had super by 2nd round without getting many kills
Also before there was a capture point so they didnt need to move…
funny thing is they were on a 14 win streak until you beat them twice then they stopped using this strat and lost 15 of 18 games after
I matched a team this weekend with two stag warlock with arc buddies and a titan with citans. The worst part is that they only stayed in respawn waiting for us to push or waiting for the flag. We won but that match left me with 4 different types of cancer.
Just put risk runner on when you go against whorelocks with their disco ball maxi-pads being used… you’ll melt them
Honestly i still prefer my laser beam
They didn't have Le Monarch though? Cause that would be even worse.
Yes riskrunner and witherhord combo make armaggedon on them
Repeated exposure to trials will give your cancer cancer so you can live and suffer through more games of trials
JP prolly readjusting his hat the whole match
Does your phone not have spell check? Auto correct?
@@R.S.O. what?
@@R.S.O. what?
Its players like this that make me excited for the ability nerfs
Couldn’t be truer
trash
Thank god for those ability nerfs. Will get me into the crucible a lot more
just disabling stasis in pvp would be better than nerfing all the other non op abilities
@@pluto3194 yes nerf pve more
These guys are the most cocky players in our discord thank you for ego checking them
Cocky? Why, they are crutching on cheese instead of actually playing the game.
@@Osprey1994 afraid to loose. I’m not any better…I’m ashamed to be a shatter dive, devil’s ruin, Tricksleeves main… 😞😞😞 these guys act like they are then best players in the game though.
@@skyratclips6279 If its what u do well with and find fun dont let anyone say its toxic
by calling it toxic and belittling it id argue the person saying ur toxic is more toxic than u using [insert weapon/ability/playstyle]
@@adeptshadowprice3772 oh yeah I’d agree to an extent, I have ZERO problem with whatever anyone uses. I like that part of destiny. Just the attitude these guys had…idk. Always rubbed me the wrong way.
I’ve heard cammy say that malf is really good in a team setting for countering that playstyle. It doesn’t matter who gets the 5 shots in as every slug works from everyone which guarantees the Insta kill
damn thats smart
Goddammit and this is why I fucking love the Malfeasance
They were 100% on stream. When all fucking 3 of them immediately came straight for you at the beginning of the last round there was no doubt
T - is it True?
H - is it Helpful?
I - is it Inspiring?
N - is it Necessary?
K - is it Kind?
@@ADUSN based
A teacher in my high school has this same sign.
D - is it Destiny?
I - is it Inadequate?
C - is it Cringe-inducing
K - is it Kyle playing?
S - Shit
H - Hard
I - In
T - Toilet
The whole part from 12:32 till the end! Idk how did you pull that off but my respect for you has gone 10 times higher Wallah! You’re indeed one of the best PvP players from Destiny 2
I’d say the best
Seeing that clip tho i think he might be right on the stream sniping
@@fuhkyu8146 Same, when he said that they were stream sniping was thinking that "Hmh, seems a little sus but might just be a coincendence..." Nope... After viewing the wholeee thing, they definitely came off like they were snipin'.
@@celestialsoup8284 Check out Cammycakes and Bboyy
Cerberus +1 is almost mandatory in those situations, It plows through Shields and Stasis and running it with a GL is even better especially Salvagers
Fighting Lion does really well against this kind of play style if you spec into reload. Multimach shreds the overshields too. Give it a try if you happen to verse them again.
SMGs deal bonus damage to overshields?
@@Cheesedragon117 no, it literally shreds overshields
@@Krissv Isn’t there a mag perk that helps with shields and that?
@@boom-jr8vi If you have armor piercing rounds it will help with champion shields if you have the mod equipped, I believe also barricades but not too sure, overshields never
You think this loadout is bad now…last season the shield negated crit damage. Even if you shot them in a head with an aggressive sniper they wouldn’t die
Excuse me... WHAT?!
@@digit5465 lol noob
yup, even chappy couldn't one shot in the head...
@@xOmar56x chappy does less dmg than aggressive sniper to the head. I have clips of headshotting ppl with duality and meleeing just for them to stay alive from prev season
@@thislifeissad9871 Takes one to know one now doesnt it
that last play was nuts man, them pushing with overshields, and then the knife throw after shotgunning the friend who ran away. High IQ against low IQ, plain and simple.
3 sweet business with 3 Actium War Rigs would have been funny to use against a team like this.
Sweet business/Actium is a meme Loadout. You want that Super Sweet Business?
Pair it with Lion Rampant for some nice aggressive aerial play to get over cover.
Pair it with Icefall to hold ground like no other, or to push through an enemy's punishment, to deliver your own.
Pair it with Citan's for a similar effect to Icefall, but affecting your whole team.
Pair it with (bear with me) Aeon Safe for wicked fast reload (whichever sect essentially gives your guns rapid hit for free, Vigor perhaps?)
Pair it with OEM, because duh.
Any other synergistic combos between sweet business and exotics? (Especially with other classes)
Imagine running that load out and getting a mercy card 😂
5:40 that alright twitch sub was perfectly timed for that striker to slide in
AWWWW RIGHT~
I feel like witherhoard and vortex nades would be a great counter to this build.
until you run out of witherhoard and have no grenade
Fighting lion maybe…..
Solar/vortex nades with medium-high discipline and granade kickstart
@@buen0_ That's when you switch to Cerberus +1.
@@buen0_ you would be playing for zone every round so you’d save them to contest point.
this has been broken for at least two seasons and it feels like the last nerf didn’t really do much about it
Well now all abilities and armour mods and exotics that boost energy regeneration are getting nerfed so i think this will not be as good as it is now
bruh it doesnt matter, everyone will just learn to find toxic ways to play no matter what.
@@phylazen5649 yeah but at least it wont include infinite abilities and infinite overshields that make 1 trials match into a long agonizing 25 minutes experience
@@rinzler1767 naw it still effective
shame that this is the build that behemoth has to run to even be effective instead of actually have a fun balanced class
I’m glad you guys won against them twice
When I watch this ot hurts my head... because you know how meny time when they say he low when they fighting and wallah just chilling in the back
@@funnystranger3380 pushing recklessly like that is such a stupid play, I have no idea what you’re talking about
@@snadthe4671 don’t worry about him, he failed at spelling ‘many’, I don’t think this video is the only thing hurting his head.
@@snadthe4671 yes it not the best play. But it even worst if you don't even try to help them. Like wallah he sat in the back. When you keep hearing I got him low but no one there to help... this is not even that bad to play against.
I beat this many time. You just just need to play it smart push all at one by using your abilitys on there walls and switch too hard light, sweet business, Or that shotgun auto.
I push meny people who did this. Can work if you all do it. This combo is easy to stop if you just keep shooting the crystals. Like wallah team mates, unlike wallah they keep shooting even if they don't see them, when wallah is back there complaining
@@funnystranger3380 then don't watch wallah go watch someone else hater.
That double shotgun, throwing knife and dmt cleanup in the in air was ... *Chefs kiss
Me and my friends ran into these guys too. It was the worst experience ever, we lost 4-5. I'm glad you guys won.
I actually defeated a team doing this by using cloudstrike with khapri sting to get wall hacks. I would wait for one of them to expose their head and when I landed my shot, it would always kill at least 2 and then we would rush the last one. To be fair though, it was on Distant Shore which is much more of an open map so I had many options for angles and flanks.
Yes yes ! I love to see when toxic players like that get shit on ! GG !
"I'm going for 100k damage!" lmfao 🤣
Not gonna lie, I expect this build to be more prominent than any other titan build once the December update comes. With just how frequent you can make these abilities work, they'll be just as strong if not even stronger. They can cut the cooldowns in half, but when a build is designed to bring back your grenade in an instant, then half of instant is stil good enough.
double uploads, that’s what we like to see
heck yes
we played this same team and they beat us twice, really glad you guys beat them where we couldn't.
I went against the same people I played around them and sniped 1 of them Everytime and it was painful tbh but yeah they lost because they relied on it too much they forgot how to use a gun and it was a close game also
But if it's working. They're genius for it.
They were so slow, should've chucked on the aimbot knives and just yeeted some at walls.
This is called playing "optimally"
They were playing to win, in the most literal sense.
And Wallah and his team are the ones who decided to play for zone, they were going for kills, at least on this game, so they are the ones who decided to suffer more lol
I had a similar experience week one of trials this season. One Stag warlock, 2 khepris horn titans, all on stasis, all using witherhoard. They would hide in the hallways near bridge on Burnout and just wait for the point and push as a team. There was nothing we could do because killing them just gave them more special ammo. We lost 5-3, was unbelievably obnoxious
Cammy cackling in a corner rn
I played against this a bunch of times before Trials got its overhaul. I cried in the shower after every time.
Teamshotting with Mal is the play for these kind of crappy situations. Then stagger nades as you push. 3 warlocks running the gauntlets that buff malfeasance and running an arc buddy build is crazy strong.
Witherhoard counters this insanely well. put on 2 of them, seriously.
My favorite line "My rezz is inside some bullshit". KEKW
This reminds me of that one time an arc titan went around the map one punching everyone then doing a T bag at the speed of sound Everytime
hey man whatever it takes to win, sound strategy
I've taken a break from PvP games now. I still watch them of course but I get heated too easily and toxic players just piss me off.
Ah… so this is why they put this super in the slowest recharge category for December.
That last play where they rushed you felt so good to watch. Good shit
Babe wake up wallah posted
This was so hype to see yall win tho. Overcoming insane odds
@SayWallahBruh I played a team just like this yesterday and it was so annoying. Your a goat for being able to beat this cheesy gameplay twice.💯
Something that could be maaaaaybe be useful is the combo of Cerberus+1 and the antibarrier auto rifle mod, that combo melts Titan shields but idk if it could work in that match I don't even play crucible
Wallah: watch at your own risk
Me: ……………imma risk it 😎
I found a very funny way to fight this as a hunter with skip grenades and shinobus, because you get enough energy each throw to basically keep spamming until they die run away or push.
I don’t play Destiny much lately, taking a break till dungeon. But I didn’t know people still did this load out. Perfect example of why the update is happening soon.
I was watching live. These guys are real Jim's.
I wish I lived in the parallel world where titans didn't exist.
This is why I like the new halo like I don’t agree with the grenade spam but it prevents people from just sitting in place
i love vids like this really entertaining to watch
It was like that for me when the map was javelin and banner fall two Titans and a hunter all with stasis. If it wasn’t for those particular teams having shitty aim and suck at 1s, it’s almost impossible to win against a comp like this ino
That slam was satisfying
That was great. Revenge, best served cold. Go Wallah
Duuuude that 1v2 at 12:32 was soo badass!
when trying to get flawless hits another dimension
Sweet Business counters this pretty hard TBH
Damn wallah fukked them up when they rushed! Your reactions are so fast!
This game was like watching paint dry. I would have got so impatient lol
DANGEROUS CONTENT
Cam did a video like this with really good players using that type of build. I honestly think it's a good strat using the overshield but playing so passively with it is kinda scummy.
Can you link?
@@jordanmarcotte9000 I don't think so, just look up "Two of the strongest behemoth titans carry me to the lighthouse" it was made a while ago.
@@silverink4370 thanks man
When this happens just swap to Bastion so u can one tap those barricades
Nah, if you encounter this run 3 fighting lions and just sit and bombard the barricades and crystals, it’s like a guy mentioned above, if you run Bastion or Witherhoard it’s great until you run out of ammo and then you’re back to spamming your primary at what feels like an unbreakable wall.
Cerberus+ works too
@@NorthEastMick Cerberus and anti barrier also works especially if they let you close the cap
This is just a normal day in trials for me
I didn't think it could get more toxic that Boots of the Assembler with Le Monarques. But I guess I've seen it all now.
Cammy put out a video where he matched a similar team. he used witherhoard to counter their shields.
This is where I just use Hard Light and spray the building
Seems I'm not the only person who thinks that way
"They're so toxic bro, they dared play D2 doing anything but peak shot a hand cannon, quickscope, and shotgun slide. I still beat their unconventional strategy which required its own skills and teamwork, but I had to think outside the one way I like to play PvP and god forbid I be so inconvenienced-it's just so TOXIC that I have to play this Trials match even REMOTELY differently than the one way I have been since Destiny began".
The fragility on ya, outplay them...or don't and quit right back into the normal Chaperone/Pally clusterfuck. What's actually toxic is whining about the casual shitshow of D2 PvP like this.
This is exactly why I main top tree nova with Contraverse Hold, so I can spam overcharged vortex nades
So glad you won that I was on the edge of my seat. Going against three ice monkeys is fucked up anyway you look at it. They probably thought they had that one in the bag😂😂
cerberus with anti barrier artefact mod might've worked here slightly
any thoughts on trying out new halo? ttk a lil long compared to d2 but a fun ge to break from d2
I have learned a lot from the opposing team. :)
wallah ur gameplay always impressed me so i turned on notifications, im here early for once 👽
I was expecting 3 stasis Hunters with shatterdive/glacier nade combo, 100 disclipline 2 grenade kickstart mods and frost EE5s getting a glacier nade to shatterdive every 15 seconds.
keep up good work walla
Top tree arc warlock would tear this team apart, cause of the tether stuff on the nade
I played with a team that had heart of inmost light and spammed glacier nades and walls while camping in the middle hallway on bannerfall.
We 5-0'd them but it was very obnoxious and dragged the game out. It felt good to take their flawless on game 6 lol
Zavala warned us about using darkness
Witherhoard does wonders against that strat. People don't know about it
So basically every Trials team ever
I don't get how the enemy team there could stand doing timer scam strats, literally the most boring way to play
e: oh lmao they were stream sniping too, jesus christ
this is the most piss boy tactics ever. fought against 3 of those a couple months ago. 3 stasis titans with cerberus. Malfeaseance actually carried my team through this nightmare
How every trials game I play feels like:
Idk if it would work in trials, but Cerberus+1 SHREDS through glacier nades.
I think I've seen GernaderJake play against them. Several times, in fact. They do stream-snipe, they are all very toxic, they are all salty when losing and very sore winners. They frequently try to match up against streamers for some kind of ego trip and bring this very abusive playstyle most weekends. Whenever it's not triple Behemoth, its triple of whatever is the cheesiest, most annoying builds to play against at that given time, like triple Omni with LoW. Its very sad and disappointing, really.
Thank you, Walluh, for ego-checking these cringe-lords.
Wallah absolutely spitting on them with that last play.
bruh why did you have a night watch on
Just ignore the full dmt squad at the start
I mean... it isn't fun to play, or to play against, but if this kind of thing is playing to your strengths to compete... then you gotta do what you gotta do I think
Played a team of 2 stasis 1 thundercrash, they were using sweet business while doing this exact thing.
Will this be as effective after the December 8th patch? Or are glacier grenades on a much longer cooldown? I still think Whisper of Rime (overshield) should be disabled in PvP. It's mega cheese.
So are many other things. There is no honour in this game, it is decided on who can cheese harder. The speed wallah moves at with warlock and titan skating is cheesy. At least the enemy team used a strategy anyone can use. Skating is only bound to PC.
upcoming ability reworks kinda slaps this loadout down tho
I am so glad and happy to see titan being toxic with stasis instead of hunter with shattered dive
At your own risk you say?
haha funny i love riskrunner
Ah yes, a fellow gun!
well i cant wait to see how the sandbox will switch up after 30th anniversary
hey wallah what’s your seventh seraph roll?
glacier grenades are way too op in pvp, it's absurd how large they are and that a goldy shot doesn't even destroy them all
stasis is just not meant for pvp