Mike Leach winning 59.7% of his games at Texas Tech, Washington State, and Mississippi State is super impressive. It’s infuriating that dying of a heart attack is what’s preventing him from being a Hall of Famer.
But he wasn't GREAT and that's the whole point of a HOF... Great guy maybe, but 'just' a darn good coach is not HOF coach... We can't water everything down when people die, it hurts awards more than it helps - even if it feels good
@@Nathan-ct9ehNaismith had a losing record at Kansas and was not a good coach. Just cause your record shows one thing doesn’t mean you aren’t impactful.
Howard not being eligible is very awful. Decorated Assistant Coach, Decorated Coordinator, and as a Head Coach made the University of Miami into the powerhouse it would truly become in the 80's and 90's. Without Howard, that School is still massively irrelevant in the landscape.
I think a simple fix here on the player side is that being a Heisman finalist(theres 10 every year) is an exemption to the AA criteria. Like you're either an AA OR you're a top 10 Heisman finalist. It is a quick fix that would allow all the players who weren't AA who would have otherwise made it on the merits to make it. Coachings another thing but for players this would fix the problem.
Josh, I’ve each…Exclusively Collegev football especially the Alabamas Crimson Tide! I’ve watched it since 11years old. That was 1961…Bears 1st National Championship!! So just did that because I’m very true, serious & happy to tell others that really claim to have their favorite sport …Collegiate!!! You’re always called great! Thank you for still being the most accurately plus excited with plenty of love of college football 🏈!! You’re interview with Nic Sabin in my top 10!!
Wow I had no idea it was that hard to get in. Huge congrats to Michael Bishop and Coach Bill Snyder for being so great to have been inducted into the college football hall of fame EMAW
Performance/accolade based qualifiers for something that people are going to vote for anyway are silly but I don't have a problem with coaches having to coach a certain amount of time but it should account for their entire coaching career and not just head coaching- someone like Erk Russell should get credit for his time as a DC which undoubtedly contributes to the entirety of his coaching legacy. Likewise, Pete Carroll should be able to count his 10 years as a college assistant to his head coaching years and easily clear the bar.
There's a difference between professional sports and college sport hall of fames. Namely, the number of possible candidates is exponentially higher at the college level. I don't necessarily agree with all the standards, but there needs to be standards. Instead of changing/modifying the 60% win percentage, maybe include a revolutionary/significant impact on the sport.
What is crazy is if Jimbo Fisher's tenure at A&M were 10 years (like originally planned) and he maintained his record exactly as it was he would be qualified for the HOF. Shows how that 60% winning percentage is a bit dumb.
Nick Chubb being ineligible for the hall of fame is a sin. The second best SEC running back of all time should take is place in the college football Hall of fame
Firstly, I love your show and the way you present it. Second, I agree that the criteria should be changed, and Bennett should be up for consideration. However, after taking a week to think about it, I wouldn't vote for him. He was a really good, but not elite QB that benefited greatly from the team he was on, not unlike A.J. McCarron. I think there were 6 or 7 other QBs who would have won the same games he did. To me, HOF players should be elite independent of their team. While that is impossible to quantify, I think there are other candidates in his era at his position that are more deserving (namely Young, Daniels, Williams, and Stroud).
Mike Leach only won 10 or more games 2 times and had a 8-9 record in Bowl games just because someone is fun or interesting does not make them a Hall of Famer.
I think Leeach joins Emroy Bellard as the two worse College Football HOF coach snubs. Both inovated offensive systems that came to define an era of football and both sit under 60% win percentages
Did Justin Smith "The Cowboy" finally get admitted to the College Football Hall of Fame? Former Georgia player Matt Stinchcomb did and I'll guarantee you Justin would have torn Matt a new one in one on one competition had they have met.
What about other folks who are super important to the sport of college football like commentators and writers for instance. Are they even considered or is that just me being an absolute idiot?Because it's obvious there are a lot of guys over the years that have meant just as much to college football as anyone else
@@dylanrich69 lol, I get that but, imo that means something, idk if AJ is in the HOF either but if he’s not he deserves to be. Even tho he team was also stacked he was a great college QB
Fine, I'll say it: No one was calling Mike Leach a HOF coach, or talking about him half at all until he passed. Seems like he was a great guy, and a pretty cool coach, but he was always "just a solid coach". That isn't what I want HOF to be, and this currently sounds like when rappers die and suddenly get popular or people pretend they're more than just pretty good all of a sudden.
I disagree because he may have never had the success of Saban or Meyers, but he helped change the sport of college football. He was the innovator of the air raid offense, and has a massive coaching tree under him spanning all of Big 12 football. For his sheer impact on and innovation of the game I think he should be in.
He is in the nfl and HE was a lot of big games with his legs and arm. Gtfoh. A 2 time champion who was a Heisman finalist??? 🤦🏾♂️ A guy that won his championship in Juco then 2 more at UGA. YEAH, please be quiet
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Mike Leach winning 59.7% of his games at Texas Tech, Washington State, and Mississippi State is super impressive. It’s infuriating that dying of a heart attack is what’s preventing him from being a Hall of Famer.
Not only that but his offensive philosophy literally changed the game as it’s played today.
These rules are so dumb. Leach should be in he helped change college football and the pros now running his air raid. Dude is a pioneer.
He definitely going they just saving him for his remembered flowers
But he wasn't GREAT and that's the whole point of a HOF... Great guy maybe, but 'just' a darn good coach is not HOF coach... We can't water everything down when people die, it hurts awards more than it helps - even if it feels good
@@Nathan-ct9ehNaismith had a losing record at Kansas and was not a good coach. Just cause your record shows one thing doesn’t mean you aren’t impactful.
Howard not being eligible is very awful. Decorated Assistant Coach, Decorated Coordinator, and as a Head Coach made the University of Miami into the powerhouse it would truly become in the 80's and 90's. Without Howard, that School is still massively irrelevant in the landscape.
I think a simple fix here on the player side is that being a Heisman finalist(theres 10 every year) is an exemption to the AA criteria. Like you're either an AA OR you're a top 10 Heisman finalist. It is a quick fix that would allow all the players who weren't AA who would have otherwise made it on the merits to make it. Coachings another thing but for players this would fix the problem.
That's an interesting point. It could be extended to winning the position award, too. Particularly since the Heisman is a QB award.
Josh, I’ve each…Exclusively Collegev football especially the Alabamas Crimson Tide! I’ve watched it since 11years old. That was 1961…Bears 1st National Championship!! So just did that because I’m very true, serious & happy to tell others that really claim to have their favorite sport …Collegiate!!! You’re always called great! Thank you for still being the most accurately plus excited with plenty of love of college football 🏈!! You’re interview with Nic Sabin in my top 10!!
Just came across this video, this is a discussion we much have as a sports community.
Wow I had no idea it was that hard to get in. Huge congrats to Michael Bishop and Coach Bill Snyder for being so great to have been inducted into the college football hall of fame EMAW
Performance/accolade based qualifiers for something that people are going to vote for anyway are silly but I don't have a problem with coaches having to coach a certain amount of time but it should account for their entire coaching career and not just head coaching- someone like Erk Russell should get credit for his time as a DC which undoubtedly contributes to the entirety of his coaching legacy. Likewise, Pete Carroll should be able to count his 10 years as a college assistant to his head coaching years and easily clear the bar.
You're right Josh. Thank you.
There's a difference between professional sports and college sport hall of fames. Namely, the number of possible candidates is exponentially higher at the college level. I don't necessarily agree with all the standards, but there needs to be standards. Instead of changing/modifying the 60% win percentage, maybe include a revolutionary/significant impact on the sport.
What is crazy is if Jimbo Fisher's tenure at A&M were 10 years (like originally planned) and he maintained his record exactly as it was he would be qualified for the HOF. Shows how that 60% winning percentage is a bit dumb.
Nick Chubb being ineligible for the hall of fame is a sin. The second best SEC running back of all time should take is place in the college football Hall of fame
Firstly, I love your show and the way you present it. Second, I agree that the criteria should be changed, and Bennett should be up for consideration. However, after taking a week to think about it, I wouldn't vote for him. He was a really good, but not elite QB that benefited greatly from the team he was on, not unlike A.J. McCarron. I think there were 6 or 7 other QBs who would have won the same games he did. To me, HOF players should be elite independent of their team. While that is impossible to quantify, I think there are other candidates in his era at his position that are more deserving (namely Young, Daniels, Williams, and Stroud).
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Mike Leach only won 10 or more games 2 times and had a 8-9 record in Bowl games just because someone is fun or interesting does not make them a Hall of Famer.
The only name ineligible is Les Miles. That was because of multiple recruiting violations.
I think Leeach joins Emroy Bellard as the two worse College Football HOF coach snubs. Both inovated offensive systems that came to define an era of football and both sit under 60% win percentages
If Julio doesn’t make the CFB HOF that is seriously crazy
Did Justin Smith "The Cowboy" finally get admitted to the College Football Hall of Fame? Former Georgia player Matt Stinchcomb did and I'll guarantee you Justin would have torn Matt a new one in one on one competition had they have met.
Put Erk Russell in!! GATA! Hail Georgia Southern!
What about other folks who are super important to the sport of college football like commentators and writers for instance. Are they even considered or is that just me being an absolute idiot?Because it's obvious there are a lot of guys over the years that have meant just as much to college football as anyone else
No... Players & coaches, only.
There's no way Stetson Bennett should be in the Hall of Fame!
Why shouldn’t he?
If he was eligible but He would but it around 2027, 2028.
Yes he should he’s a 2 time national champion
@@AceWillliamsMichelle Obama could've been QB and Georgia still would've won a title
@@dylanrich69 lol, I get that but, imo that means something, idk if AJ is in the HOF either but if he’s not he deserves to be. Even tho he team was also stacked he was a great college QB
Fine, I'll say it: No one was calling Mike Leach a HOF coach, or talking about him half at all until he passed.
Seems like he was a great guy, and a pretty cool coach, but he was always "just a solid coach". That isn't what I want HOF to be, and this currently sounds like when rappers die and suddenly get popular or people pretend they're more than just pretty good all of a sudden.
I disagree because he may have never had the success of Saban or Meyers, but he helped change the sport of college football. He was the innovator of the air raid offense, and has a massive coaching tree under him spanning all of Big 12 football. For his sheer impact on and innovation of the game I think he should be in.
@@mattsandgren7777 did he how many teams ran the air raid very few
Stetson Bennett…? Really? That’s like saying Jay Barker is a hall of fame candidate. I agree with the others on the list. 🤷🏾♂️
Jay Barker should definitely be in the hall of fame.
Roll tide!
Stetson Bennett was along for the ride. If he was worth a piss he'd be in the NFL.
He is in the nfl and HE was a lot of big games with his legs and arm. Gtfoh. A 2 time champion who was a Heisman finalist??? 🤦🏾♂️ A guy that won his championship in Juco then 2 more at UGA.
YEAH, please be quiet
My hogs should be in the college football hall of lame…
Cry me a river sir, everyone made fun of him before he died
Why should Stetson Bennett get in?
He wasn’t hall of fame level. He was just the qb of a loaded team.
You don’t know ball
Same thing could be said about AJ McCarron
He 100% deserves it for his story
@@yeahhhdro64 I think you could make an arguement for AJ on both sides. What separates Stetson is how he performed on the biggest stages.
@@DreDawg007 but for Stet he won 2 national championships, lost 4 games in 3 years as a starter and never lost a CFP playoff game
Stetson Bennett? Laughable