I always carried an extra clip with me after losing one 25 miles from nowhere. I carried wire with me and wrapped it around the master pin groves to hold the link on, and rode the rest of the day through the mountains. I always used needle nose pliers to change the master link, they help to make sure the clip is in the groves of the pin on the master link. I was a motorcycle mechanic fpr the local Yamaha dealership at the time. The bike was a Yamaha DT-1, the year, 1969. Good memories !!
I was flying back from Willows on I5 when I stopped for a break. As I was inspecting my bike, I saw that the master link clip was missing (my girls' x bf). A Harley rider stopped, had a clip, but didn't fit. Wrapped it with wire for me. Told me to always stop for others on the road who are in need.
Hey dude,.. i think you put the retainer clip on backwards. the closed end should be the leading edge in direction of rotation. that was the orientation on the top span of chain,... on the bottom span,(where you replaced it) should be opposite way... Reason is,... if you encounter any debris, like stick or rock, less chance of knocking the clip loose. thanks for video!
Well, couple things, looks like you left the o-ring out and you put the clip on backwards. The chain running direction can cause it to come off with the opening in the clip facing forwards like you have it.
HI,.. had an unrelated question if you care to offer and opinion.... I notice now a tiny sqeek or whine, but more of a squeek sound when riding and the bike is under load. like a mouse.... No noise when coasting or slowing down. Strange sound just started 25 miles ago, I suspect rear bearing or drive chain somewhere, or could be suspension although I doubt that.... thanks again mate!
I have an 86 xr600r and I am getting it ready to ride all I need to do is install the chain. On the front sprocket is there a washer behind the sprocket in between the bearing? I do not want to mess anything up
I just picked up a 1985 honda xr600r the only thing it needs to be ready to ride is a chain and sprocket kit. The problem is the owner took off the circlip on the front sprocket and the kits I have found online don't seem to have that circlip. What size is that circlip I think it is a 25mm
Nicely Done! I have been checking out some used KDX 200 and 220 Not sure what to think. I have never ridden a dirt bike, just ATVs. Obviously the kdx is a two stroke, which I kind of like the simplicity of, but a lot of people say to go with a crf230. The CRF seems to only be a cuple pounds heavier than the KDX Any thoughts? I would only be doing mild trail riding.
You want to change your sprocket way before it gets that bad, doing so will extend chain life greatly. Ideally you want to change it just as it starts to wear. It should look nearly the same as the new one. The more worn it gets the more accelerated chain wear is.
I had a honda 110 3wheeler with a sprocket that bad. The rear sprocket had no teeth left and it was just round but if the chain is tight it still drove, only time it fell off is if i did donuts.
If you tighten the chain to make up for worn teeth on the sprockets that`ll put a huge strain on the bushes and bearings of the drive shaft! Not recommended.
I couldn't see it real clear but it looked like to me you put your master link on in the wrong direction with the the open end going towards the engine
when the video first starts, that chain is squeaking so much, it's surely dry as could be with no lube bro! Get some PJ1 chain lube or some other kind thats sticky and dont fly off! - But really you're supposed to change the chain and Both sprockets as a set because changing just one isn't recommended, as they all wear in together.......
nice video,thaks for your efforts. I would like to offer you some sound advice on what your doing, Anytime you replace sprockets you do them both, and if you dont do that,that new sprocket is gonna cut in to that old chain and cause it to wear rapidly, which in turn will throw a new contact surface withe rear spocket and cause rapid wear on it as well. So what do you gain? just know the correct way to keep your drive components as long as possible, you always replace both sprokets along with a new chain cuz then they all break in together and will last you over twice the time, and probably more and a smoother ride. A little exspensive, but the alternative is putting your bikes drive components in tottally new wear patterns which in turn will eat itself alive. Seen in 50 times or more. Just say'in........and I wish you well.
Good question! That piece over the sprocket, called a retainer clip, has slots in it which allows it to be slid over the splines, and then it is rotated so that it engages with the splines to prevent it from being able to slide back off. Hope this makes sense!
motoforlyfe Oh that makes sense. I'm trying to fix up a yamaha xt200 and the sprocket didn't have anything to hold it on and for the longest time I couldn't figure it out. Now I can get on with the project. Thanks man
I have a 125 apallo it runs great my bro snapped the chain and locked down the back wheel and after that the front sprocket stops in the same place about ever 3/4 turn even in nutran put new front sprocket on but didn't fix anybody no what the problem is
Yeah in a perfect world you should, in the real world if the rear is pretty good it's not unusual to just change the front. Don't forget, the front sprocket is turning 3 to 4 times as much as the rear is so it should naturally wear faster.. That said, I wouldn't have been surprised if the chain didn't slip every now and then.. it was overdue.
what a load of rubbish,clip wrong way round,can,t believe he fitted a knackered chain onto a new sprocket,I wouldn,t let him touch my bike in a million years!!
I always carried an extra clip with me after losing one 25 miles from nowhere. I carried wire with me and wrapped it around the master pin groves to hold the link on, and rode the rest of the day through the mountains. I always used needle nose pliers to change the master link, they help to make sure the clip is in the groves of the pin on the master link. I was a motorcycle mechanic fpr the local Yamaha dealership at the time. The bike was a Yamaha DT-1, the year, 1969. Good memories !!
Glad to bring back some old memories!
I was thinking... why doesn't he just use needle nose pliers, instead of beating an things with a hammer. lol
I was flying back from Willows on I5 when I stopped for a break. As I was inspecting my bike, I saw that the master link clip was missing (my girls' x bf). A Harley rider stopped, had a clip, but didn't fit. Wrapped it with wire for me. Told me to always stop for others on the road who are in need.
Hey dude,.. i think you put the retainer clip on backwards. the closed end should be the leading edge in direction of rotation. that was the orientation on the top span of chain,... on the bottom span,(where you replaced it) should be opposite way... Reason is,... if you encounter any debris, like stick or rock, less chance of knocking the clip loose. thanks for video!
Yep you're right mate.
No worries mate! Lovely video and thanks for taking time to do it... just wanted to make sure first timers do not get confused..... cheers!
Well, couple things, looks like you left the o-ring out and you put the clip on backwards. The chain running direction can cause it to come off with the opening in the clip facing forwards like you have it.
Good eye buddy! ☺
Indeed.
exactly, good luck to not lose your chain
just what I was thinking
Do you need a sprocket retainer ? Aka the piece in front of your front sprocket ?
Yes
Did you see much of a torque difference going from a 13 tooth to a 12 tooth? I'm thinking about doing the same.
HI,.. had an unrelated question if you care to offer and opinion.... I notice now a tiny sqeek or whine, but more of a squeek sound when riding and the bike is under load. like a mouse.... No noise when coasting or slowing down. Strange sound just started 25 miles ago, I suspect rear bearing or drive chain somewhere, or could be suspension although I doubt that.... thanks again mate!
I have an 86 xr600r and I am getting it ready to ride all I need to do is install the chain. On the front sprocket is there a washer behind the sprocket in between the bearing? I do not want to mess anything up
I just picked up a 1985 honda xr600r the only thing it needs to be ready to ride is a chain and sprocket kit. The problem is the owner took off the circlip on the front sprocket and the kits I have found online don't seem to have that circlip. What size is that circlip I think it is a 25mm
On my XR400, the flat side goes towards the case. The lip on the sprocket is on the outside ...
Does your sprocket have play in it?
@@samavila2104 id say yes, but there's no play in the splines
Nicely Done! I have been checking out some used KDX 200 and 220 Not sure what to think. I have never ridden a dirt bike, just ATVs. Obviously the kdx is a two stroke, which I kind of like the simplicity of, but a lot of people say to go with a crf230. The CRF seems to only be a cuple pounds heavier than the KDX Any thoughts? I would only be doing mild trail riding.
For mild trail riding, I'd go with the 230.
I just checked this out as my boy was having dramas as was I 😂in getting the front one off on a little 70 cc but he worked it 😂
beautiful
You want to change your sprocket way before it gets that bad, doing so will extend chain life greatly. Ideally you want to change it just as it starts to wear. It should look nearly the same as the new one. The more worn it gets the more accelerated chain wear is.
Yeah buddy, you are right that you should change it way before it gets that bad.
i just lost 3 front sprockets why does this happen i line them up right and everything
I had a honda 110 3wheeler with a sprocket that bad. The rear sprocket had no teeth left and it was just round but if the chain is tight it still drove, only time it fell off is if i did donuts.
If you tighten the chain to make up for worn teeth on the sprockets that`ll put a huge strain on the bushes and bearings of the drive shaft! Not recommended.
I couldn't see it real clear but it looked like to me you put your master link on in the wrong direction with the the open end going towards the engine
Trying to remove the front sprocket but that little piece on top of it won’t come off??
when the video first starts, that chain is squeaking so much, it's surely dry as could be with no lube bro! Get some PJ1 chain lube or some other kind thats sticky and dont fly off! - But really you're supposed to change the chain and Both sprockets as a set because changing just one isn't recommended, as they all wear in together.......
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nice video,thaks for your efforts. I would like to offer you some sound advice on what your doing, Anytime you replace sprockets you do them both, and if you dont do that,that new sprocket is gonna cut in to that old chain and cause it to wear rapidly, which in turn will throw a new contact surface withe rear spocket and cause rapid wear on it as well. So what do you gain? just know the correct way to keep your drive components as long as possible, you always replace both sprokets along with a new chain cuz then they all break in together and will last you over twice the time, and probably more and a smoother ride. A little exspensive, but the alternative is putting your bikes drive components in tottally new wear patterns which in turn will eat itself alive. Seen in 50 times or more. Just say'in........and I wish you well.
Use needle nose one on the clip one on the little bar cross the chain easy for me
But how does that peice over the sprocket hold it from coming off? Wouldn't it still be able to slide off?
Good question! That piece over the sprocket, called a retainer clip, has slots in it which allows it to be slid over the splines, and then it is rotated so that it engages with the splines to prevent it from being able to slide back off. Hope this makes sense!
motoforlyfe Oh that makes sense. I'm trying to fix up a yamaha xt200 and the sprocket didn't have anything to hold it on and for the longest time I couldn't figure it out. Now I can get on with the project. Thanks man
Get that front sprocket guard asap Autizmo
what size shaft is on that bike i have a front sprocket that is at 20/17 16 tooth 420 chain
here that i dont need
Not sure, I'd have to measure.
I hope you are going to tighten that chain !
Don't worry buddy, we did :-)
I have a 125 apallo it runs great my bro snapped the chain and locked down the back wheel and after that the front sprocket stops in the same place about ever 3/4 turn even in nutran put new front sprocket on but didn't fix anybody no what the problem is
sounds like a bent counter shaft
If it’s tight it’s right
Too easy. New chain time? cheers.
We'll change it when it breaks :-)
dirtbike5100 Your new front sprocket hates you ! :~P
always replace both sprokets and chain at same time. if not they will wear much faster than normal.end up wasting money
Yeah in a perfect world you should, in the real world if the rear is pretty good it's not unusual to just change the front. Don't forget, the front sprocket is turning 3 to 4 times as much as the rear is so it should naturally wear faster.. That said, I wouldn't have been surprised if the chain didn't slip every now and then.. it was overdue.
what a load of rubbish,clip wrong way round,can,t believe he fitted a knackered chain onto a new sprocket,I wouldn,t let him touch my bike in a million years!!