Big thing to consider is how could this small amount of people build a giant tower up to heaven? They took out 400 to 400 years of history. . Why to cover up Jesus genealogy. He wasn't of the tribe of Levi so even they asked him where did he get his priesthood he said after the order of melchizeidek . The rabi messed with his line back to Seath Adam God . Its missing stuff around Noah
@@rafaelshumaker1883 Oh, you, the wisest of men! Don’t you know that the Sahara desert keeps growing and if extrapolated back, it starts at about 4000 years ago? Study your geology.
BCE(Before common era) and CE(Common era) are peoples way of removing God. I still use just BC(Before Christ) and AD(After death) that Pope Gregory established with the Gregorian calendar we still use today.
The problem with these videos (at least on TH-cam) is THEY ARE NOT NUMBERED IN THE TITLE! You just said this was #21... But How do I know where episode 5 is? IMHO
Search youtube...answers in genesis nathaniel jeanson the videos are in order by the way they were uploaded.
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Playlist is called "The New History of the Human Race with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson". There's also a newer playlist now that continues upon this one (and after the book was published) called "Traced: DNA's Big Surprise with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson".
I think the Septuagint was correct with the dates 3298, and I believe predynastic King Ka of Egypt & Kush of India is Cush of the Bible which would make King Narmer Nimrod, so this would mean Mizraim would have unified Egypt AFTER his nephew Nimrod/Marduk conquered the world, and caused havoc at Babel. That would put the date of the Tower Babel around 3150 B.C. ... The oldest languages of the world are no older than 5000 years old. I don't believe the pyramids would have survived a worldwide flood, but these dates make sense since the oldest Pyramid was made around 2686 B.C. AFTER a 3298 BC flood.
His timeline needs some fine tuning. Genetic studies performed since 2015 have revealed that the Yamna culture, thought to have spoken some stage of Proto-Indo-European, carried R1b-L23. The Yamnaya/Yamna gave rise to the Indo-Europeans and through migration/conquest spread the Indo European languages. The descendants of this lineage were the Germanic peoples in the western branch. The Huns pushed them into the Western Roman Empire and established the Germanic Kingdom/Successor states where the R1b came to dominate the paternal descent of Europe.
Question...after the flood...the Waters receded. How much did they recede and how long did it take to fill the ocean back up. We keep finding evidence of civilization under water. The Bahamas. The potential of pyramid and villages under water. Could as human history spreads out...was there far less bodies of waters to traverse? Could there have been far more land bridges? It would explain a lot of how we find pyramid technology spread out around the world. Recent radar scans shows incredible civilizations spread out in South America and such.
If you’re using the masoretic texts you’re missing 650 years from Shem to Abraham. Reference the Samaritan Pentateuch, greek Septuagint and flavius Josephus all disagree with the masoretic text on this genealogy.
I agree David, The begetting ages: {Genesis 11:11-26} Shem: MT (*100 years), LXX (100 years), SP (100 years)na Arphaxad: MT (35 years), LXX (**135 years), SP (135 years) Kainan: LXX (°130 years) Shelah: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years), SP (130 years) Eber: MT (34 years), LXX (**134 years), SP (134 years) Peleg: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years), SP (130 years) Reu: MT (32 years), LXX (**132 years), SP (132 years) Serug: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years), SP (130 years) Nahor: MT (29 years), LXX (**79 years), SP (79 years) Terah: MT (*70 years), LXX (**70 years), SP (70 years) Rule: (MT) = Masoretic Text (☆minus 650 yrs and 130 yrs - Kainan/m) (LXX) = Greek Septuagint (SP) = Samaritan Penteteuch (°) = Luke 3:36 second witness (*) = The MT, the LXX, and the SP are in agreement. (**) = Josephus is in agreement with the LXX and SP. (na) = Josephus does not give a witness. ^ Flavius Josephus was a first century historian. 'Antiquities of the Jews' "The things narrated in the sacred Scriptures, are, however, innumerable, seeing that they embrace the history of *5,000* years..." (Ant. 1:13) Josephus claimed to use *Hebrew* text in his recitation of Genesis and other OT books. (Against Apion, 1:1, 54; Ant. 1:5, 9:208, 10:218) Rabbinic deflation theory (after 70 A.D.): a), Motive (Chrono-Messianism) b), Means (Athority; Rabbi Akiba 40-137 A.D.) c), Opperatunity (Judaism had been reduced to one Pharisaic sect after 70 A.D.) -->There is no unbiased reliable second witness to the complete time-line of the MT before Eusebius in the 4th century A.D. Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in *a good old age* an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people. (175 years) {Genesis 25:8} ^ By MT Chronology this statement would be untrue. According to the MT, Eber was still alive and lived to be a good old age of 464 years, more than twice the age of Abraham. Shem lived to be 600 years old, yet according to the MT he only dies 25 years before Abraham death. (The Jews also falsely claim that he is the high priest of Salem, Melchizedek in a vain attempt to discredit Christ claim of being a priest in the order of Melchizedek.)
So many are ignorant of this fact. Milliins are Misinformed because they depend wholly on their preferred translation say the king James.. Many commonly used versions are based on the flawed masoretic manuscripts which means the majority of people will be ill informed if they care to try and work out mathematically when certain events were said to have occured using the time or dates they arrived at using the data provided in their bible. .. There's simply not enough time for population growth etc to have those events in the time of Moses etc.. Allow six hundred years other translations allow..and it's then possible.
He does mention in a previous video that he is using the MT chronology and the long sojourn in Egypt, suggesting that one would have to adjust the timeline for these other chronologies. P.S. I agree the VXX chronology and the shorter sojourn timeline appears to make the most sense
I have really enjoyed hearing how your stand on the Bible has helped form your view of history in light of biology. Why would you not take an equally strong stand in the other direction with eschatology?
Eschatology is not readily measurable and not always understood until it happens. We are not meant to fully understand the future as God wants to walk this with us. Eschatology continues to be used by charlatans to push an evil agenda.
Egyptologists say that the Pyramids of Giza were built around 2550 BC. They claim it took at least 30,000 people. The step pyramid was built around 100 years earlier (i.e. 2650 BC). Then how do you explain your theory that around 2400 B.C. only 1000 people existed? Something is wrong with the timing. The Septuagint, the oldest known translation of the Bible (many centuries to 1000 years older than the Masoretic text), has a much more realistic chronology. The construction of the Tower of Babel and the step pyramid of Saqqara (the Joseph's pyramid) is only possible because the dating of the chronology is set back by 600 years. However. it still remains a mystery as to who built the Great Pyramids of Giza, as our technology has not been able to duplicate this megalithic construction to this day. the same applies to many other magalith structures worldwide.
Yes, The population and time line for Egypt make that story about Noa not trustworthy. Also, meanwhile China and Inda everything went on smoothly without interruption.
Mainstream dates are often wrong. Sometimes they are off by 100, 200, 500 years. They're really guessing on some of this stuff. For example the early, middle, and late Egyptian periods. These are debated time-frames. So saying the Pyramids were built around 2550 BC means they very easily could have been built 300 years earlier or 300 year later....... these are not pinpoint dates, even in mainstream fields and studies.
I believe that the Masoretic Text was deliberately altered in Genesis 11 where 100 years were removed from the descendants of Noah to remove 600 years from history in an effort to make Shem still alive in Abraham's day and claim that he was Melchizedek. LLX, other texts add 100 years to their lives.
Who else is watching the documentary series on Netflix, Ancient apocalypse? I came back to find this graph, very useful to convert all the dates that they throw out there! Its from that guy that Joe Rogan has on his show all the time, Graham Hancock I believe his name is. Its funny, he challenges the mainstream science about having these ancient advanced civilizations during the ice age, and its funny because he's right and he's got lots of evidence for it, the mainstream can't stand him! how dare he questions their narrative! etc. I only wish he realized that mainstream science is also wrong on the dates! especially with the dating of the ice age. It's not 20,000 BC years it's more like 2,000 years BC! etc. I'm only up to the first episode, but yeah its quite beautiful, he paints southeast Asia, the Island of Java as being part of Sundaland, part of the Asia continent. Water was a lot lower back in the day. Hes actually pretty on to it! But he misses the point on what coursed the big event that wiped out a lot of progress in these civilizations/ climate change. We know it here as Joseph's Famine. I get the feeling that he will bring up ancient floods, but it will be the wrong type of flood if you know what I mean (Ice melting, Ocean rising and cooling, CO2 getting sucked up into the ocean).
I've read comments by skeptics about the population and how Noah's family couldn't have populated the world but if you take the fact that in 1800 the world population was only 1 billion people according to statisticians and grew by what 7 billion people in only 223 years.
It's a start. But we really need historical DNA to map it. 5000 is not enough. If you sample, then for each sub group today, you may need 100 people. 400 million people would be more objective. With this, you are finding sub sets they aren't sampled much, if at all.
It would be interesting to have an evolutionist, who is also a linguist, involved in this discussion and see how the conversation would go. This is very interesting!
Yeah, this would be a very funny “discussion” indeed. But I fear discussions are not welcome around this sensible subject, as it might raise at least some unpleasant questions. Let’s just take the account of the Sumerians, whose culture already flourished in east Mesopotamia half a millennium “before the flood” and had its beginnings dating back to more than 5000 BC (but hey of course, I am probably wrong here, since it contradicts the only true source of knowledge in the universe and so, cannot stand the pressure of the one and only truth). This ancient empire, after having built some quite impressive neolithic megacities like Adab, Eridu, Isin, Kiš, Kullaba, Lagaš, Larsa, Nippur, Ur and Uruk eventually one day ended up being succeeded by another, named The Akkadian Empire, that then one day built the famous city of Babylon that only began to flourish under Hammurabi I around 1800 BC. Before this time, Babylon was not more than a little town and certainly not the place of choice, where you would build the daring Tower of Babel. Around 2500 BC Lagaš certainly would have been a more prominent option, being the capital of the current sumerian dynasty of that time. But again, who am I to argue? And finally coming to my point: why do we even have well documented and deciphered records coming in all those millions of little clay tablets written in the Sumerian language, if our ground zero in history is set after that people's existence? Or at least without giving them any historical timeframe to develop from. And unbaked clay should not have withstood the cataclysm of the flood, which then also accounts for all the sumerian cities, since they too were built only from sun baked clay, that dissolves with ease in water. Especially if it comes to lots and lots of water). Or have all those megacities, accounted to the Sumerians, that at their time could have held over 100.000 citizens with ease, been built by this brave building expedition of around 1000 people, that were responsible for the famous Tower? 1000 People Composed of at least 50 % women, and additional 25 % children and elderly people, needlessly to mention. Were they the same that around 2500 BC built the famous Cheops Pyramid in Egypt? Must have been somehow, since labor was quite in a shortage. I still think it is kinda though. Just imagine that in those 20 years of recorded construction time claimed by the corresponding pharaoh, 2.3 million blocks of stone, each weighing between 2.5 - 50 tons had to be put in place in a rhythm of roughly one stone per minute over 8 hours a day. My comment is probably being deleted anyway. But it was fun writing it.
@@surething716do you have the calendar in which these BC civilizations followed? Like when Hammurabi was in power, what day did November 28, 1800BC fall on. How did they know there were BC? Also, if Jesus isn’t real, what sets the marker for year 0? Why are we in the year 2023 right now?
@@HarryHafsak For those ancient civilizations, there was no such a thing as a global calendar and the understanding of a certain global year, what makes it quite difficult even to historians for finding the rough real date of an event. Each civ attributed its own time to the rule of a certain king and then some related closed by events like wars, rituals or external influences like droughts, eclipses or comets (the latter 3 being rare and a blessing for historians, as they allow comparison and synchronizing with records from other cultures at that time und thus, synchronizing events evenly between them). Thus, in order to get a proper picture of a civilization’s timeline, often the „big ones „in terms of historical recording have to be used as reference - being Egypt and Mesopotamia - as their records are extremely numerous compared to minor empires. They certainly did not know anything about being BC or a month being called November, as we don’t know how many days/years we are still around here before WW3 kicks in, blasting away this global civilization. For our successors - as primitive as they will be - we will probably simply be dated as “prewar”. There never was a year 0 and people living around that time did not care for it either. In our cultural region of influence around that time, the Roman Empire was the general reference for centuries to come and so was their timeline, based on remarking emperors. The last one being Diocletian that begun 284 AD and every event then after being counted as X years after Diolcetian. Then in the early 500’s - due to some symmetries with the moon calendar and the common calendar that has a period of 532 years (needed to calculate the precise date for the Ester celebration), and nobody caring any longer for some ancient roman emperor - some monks figured out that it would be opportune to change to another point of reference, being the supposed year of Crist’s birth. Only in the 800’s under Charlemagne this parallel system became more of a standard, to what it is nowadays.
@MyNameIsBenneth the only certainty in life is death. Even 1+1=2 can be proven to be wrong (ask a mediocre mathematician, he will help you out on that). What do you understand under "wrong" relating the Sumerians? A couple of decades? Whiteout a doubt. Centuries? A few maybe. Millenia? Most certainly not, as long as we refer to the phase where they begun building city-states. How can we be sure? Carbon dating, comparison of co-existing other peoples from around the same time and sharing the same environment. If Sumer hadn't been there in the south, Akkad had expanded until the river delta - where influencial and imposing cities like Ur and Uruk already have been risen, holding then to hundreds of thousands of inhabitants and from which cultural and territorial expansion were cast upon the upper lands of Mesopotamia. On the other hand assuming that those huge cities were build a couple of thousand years in the past, from a hand full o individuals, just arriving from the necessity to make those number match some fantastic and absurd creationist requirements... is just beyond ignorance. I would love to ask you then for your opinion about the origin of iron deposits in our crust. Where did they come from? Or petrol, natural gas... as there supposedly are mere 6000 years of total history from which they could have emerged. Did God just placed them there in the soil for us to have some resources in a future, completely unimaginable for the authors of the Old Testament? This then would probably go in hand with old fossils. Or they are a prove of faith of the real belivers (I love that one) or science is just complete incapable of anything. Funny thing is, that I am typing this right here with a result of science. Quantum physics are needed in order to build a cellphone. Just a hint. And if we are capable of such marvels, how could something profane as C14 dating be totally impossible and wrong? Another hint: it isn't! It's findings match perfectly with what we observe, and can imply forecasts that can be falsified or approved. THAT is the basis of science. Not taking anything for granted, that does not predict or prove anything nor serve of any other need in contextual analysis. What exactly does the Old Testament predict? What does a 6000 years old Earth predict that can be verified? Just name me something, I am always eager to learn. I would like to know how much that "PhD guy" gets from his cristian institutes, funding all this nonsense research in order to deliberately come up with "thesis" as shown here. I would love to see him argue this implications from a geographical, anthropological and socio-economic perspective. The implications that some stubborn cristians need in order to live their religious believes are just from another world and prove how easy it is, to mislead others by some idiotic assumptions, even today, in times where everyone could ask an AI based service for a short and easy to understand resume of the history of mankind and beyond that, of our planet (even my grandmother could do this), in order to at least have an own perspective about a subject that until then seemed to be too complicated to understand to a mere 0,05 % of its entirety in order for anyone being able to come up supporting this nonsense here, beyond of course the purpose of pure amusement and trolling (as the author of this "research" is deliberately doing with his barely illiterate audience)
Thanks Dr. Jeanson, for the marvelous marvelous presentation on the population growth after the flood - this very much accords with the progress of civilizations, and the movement of various people groups throughout the earth. I got a little lost with the Genetics stuff, but I'll trust your judgement in that field 😃
Could this type of research be used to show that all the unclean animals each trace back to just one pair per kind, whereas all the clean animals trace back to seven pairs per kind (minus however many were sacrificed by Noah after the flood was over)?
Unlikely, because certain kinds and species were deemed unclean. For example, pigs or swine as well as snakes (I believe snakes were unclean) and obviously snakes and pigs have no common ancestor
Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity that I overlooked. I've made the necessary correction. But in regards to your mistake, only kinds of animals were designated either clean or unclean, not species.
This is fabulous news. Please tell me where to purchase this book if it is published? I have been working on this using Ussher's Annals of the World and it is a huge undertaking_
It would appear that from Creation to the Flood. 1,500 years. Earth could have easily had 8 Billion People as today. Especially if the average lifespan was 900 years and couples had 6 children. Totally possible.
Dr Jeanson, I wonder what insights this migration model would have if it's overlaid with a model of continental drift for the same time periods given here. I'm no geologist, but I wonder if the distances were not as far as today, and the implications of that. That would make this even more amazing.
Great work Nathaniel. But I think for the increasing precision of your work there is a demand upon you to do the research that resolves the length of the sojourn in Egypt and the implications of the promises concerning all the families of the earth.
In your study of the movement of DNA across the globe, how does it align with the three diaspora movements of the Jewish people: Assyrian, Babylonian, and Roman empires... additionally, we have the Hebrews and other ethnicities used as scribes, translators, and traders as conquering armies moved across the continents; what effect or impact would that have on moving certain DNA profiles across the continents, since the conquerors would be the dominant DNA in those lands???
We know we have black blood in our fair-skinned, blue-eyed family. We just don't know how far back. Some theorize (although the reason for their theory has been proven wrong) that it came from before the Mayflower. At any rate, what I find more fascinating is the wide-spread instance of what appears to be fair-skinned and blue or green eyed people with blond or red hair all over the world in ancient times...even in the Americas. It seems to pop out in the most unusual places, like in New Zealand among native tribes. Since these things are recessive traits, I have come to the conclusion that one of the founding members of Noah's family must have also been green-eyed and red haired or something to that effect. The recurrence of this in legends, paintings, mummies, reported descendants and possibly statues (which we can't see the color of but might deduce the possibility) is just wild.
WAYNE MAY who has worked on the mounds people of the Great Lakes region thinks that they were the Jaradites and they looked more black in structure and features. Any thoughts
Your point that population growth rate differences between people groups can mean that one people group can "take over" from another is very important. In Exodus 1 the new king in Egypt cites your point as the reason that the Egyptians should oppress the people of Israel! It's another place where genetics (or should I say demographics?) supports the Scriptures!
What is this "the salmon" you keep repeating? What's that? Salmon croquetts??? & What do you think of Pangeia? Was the earth divided in the days of Peleg?
What about Genesis chap. 10, v 25 ? did land masses begin to break apart before the tower of Babel & people groups spread to those locations before the drifting continents made it too far to reach ?
I believe as the flood was happening the most broke up. I'm sure after also for they still move today . Boat building not a problem once trees large enough.
All the continents are still connected today, it's just not visible because it's underwater. If you dropped the ocean level by 60 meters (if i remember correctly), you could walk on a narrow land bridge from Russia to Alaska, from Thailand to Australia (via Malaysia and Indonesia), from Spain to Africa via Gibraltar...where else do you want to go? The drifting of continents is not necessary, Pangaea is fiction.
@@eusuntaici You could do with brushing up on your geology before making such a bold statement. Plate techtonics is a fact, as is Pangea, Laurasia and Gondwanaland.
@@roydodds3693 "Long ago and far away...", that's how all fairy tales begin. You do realize, I hope, that The South American Plate and The African Plate meet...in the middle of the Atlantic! How is then the shape of their shorelines relevant for their "common origin"?...Bro, you must be a real believer in order to swallow this nonsense, and I have a deep respect for real believers, until they start equating their belief with science.
I think he's wrong on the 1,000 people at the time of the tower of babel. There's several generations all still alive at that time. And each family could have 10 children or more during each generation. I'm thinking they had plenty of children and many more years to have them since they had lifespans of 200-600 years old.
How were they even building the Tower of Babel with only 1,000 person population? Seems small. Probably 10,000-100,000 or more people would be more accurate. With the time and resources to have large families the population could easily exploded within just a few generations.
The Younger Dryas had 2 flood events starting at 12972 ± 250 yrs ago and a second event 1000 years later. This date is confirmed in the archeological record and the Göbekli Tepe to star asterisms we find compelling evidence that the famous 'Vulture Stone' is a date stamp for 10950 BC ± 250 yrs, which corresponds closely to the proposed Younger Dryas event, estimated at 10890 BC.M
I dont' question a young earth. I'm certainly no expert, but it seems his math (using 2550BC) fails to take into account the time & huge population base it would take to manually organize, create the system, find and collect necessary resources (without modern machines) to build the numerous great structures of Egypt, while the rest of the population builds a society that can afford to care for daily life.
Do the math again. How many children could people have if they lived 7-8x longer? And how much wiser is an able bodied person who is 250 years old? You could have mastered every skill.
I have tried to find out the same. I would hate to resort to digging up one of my uncles...or grandpa! If you have been working on your Family Tree, maybe you could get a cousin or two further back to test. Like someone descended not just from Grandpa, but Great-Grandpa, or Gr Gr Grandpa! Prior to the approx. 1920's, much of American families had roughly 10-12 kids...if they lived on a farm, and the kids didn't die young that is. ~ ~ As far as Mitochondrial tests, there isn't a way to check what haplogroup, since it is the male chromosome they use. But they may be working on something similar?
With new discoveries of corrected ancient Egyptology, the more-correct date of the Exodus, giving the date of Moses at age 80, ... we find 1207/1206 BCE as the Exodus under the Pharaoh Horemheb "A" (firstborn son Horemheb "B" who died young). Moses would be born 1287/1286 BCE, and he would be adopted and raised by Amenhotep III, father of Amenhotep (Anhkenaton) ... the first 2 monotheists coming from the Nile Delta region. It is historically proved that both the Tuthmoses/Amenhoteps and the Ramessides were close cousins, descended from a common male patriarch Khaemwaset. The takeback of the Nile Delta from the Sea Peoples, Habiru, and Hyksos happened in 1295, 1292 BCE. This fits in with Moses being born during the enslavement and forcing the Israelites into minimum wage jobs as construction, brick making, etc. From this information of 40 years (1207/1206 - 1167/1166 BCE) in the Wilderness of Zin (Petra of Jordan and northern Midyan area of Saudi Arabia), it is Joshua who crosses the river Jordan and establishes the Commonwealth of the Israelite tribes in Canaan and those who remained in the Jordan area. This is the end of the said 400 years (1167/1166 BCE) of the God-given prophecy to Abraham (at age 100) that his descendants would be an independent nation, living under other national leaders and peoples. This prophecy then happened at 1567/1566 BCE). Abraham would be born 100 years earlier in 1667/1666 BCE. All the rest of the patriarchal ages can be read and added into the list. It is then that the age of Noah and his 3 sons at the time of the Great Flood happened in ~1987 BCE. All Noahic descendants would then be recorded from 1987 BCE onwards. It is also the division of the Noahics by the Elohim and dispersing them across the planet after Nimrod and his Tower of Babel construction that happens in the 1800s BCE range. With further discoveries of these many national pantheons of their "gods" - we can find that those god-leaders were the very Noahic descendants put into those areas ... and became the elites of any such survivors of the Flood in those areas - and the new dynastic elite populations in those areas. With no restraints, with a cleansed landscape, the amount of breeding, inter-breeding, and having large families, the whole planet could have undergone a massive baby boom explosion (~1987 - 1600s BCE).
great information. It would be great to hear how much more you know now 2 years later. If you are looking for volunteers for the Y chromosome DNA research, I would love to help. Let me know
Thinking about the flood happening and potential links to the creation of the great Artesian Basin. Then approaching the population of early Australia. interestingly a national geographic story by Sir David told about the Great Barrier Reef water moving the people higher as the waters moved in. Tradition only placed this about 1500 years ago according to the aboriginal stories (he was trying to help the climate change agenda, so didn't challenge the time line but happen to expose an ancient tribal story). I would like to look into this.
Next, do one on the confounding of languages.... and if the Japanese are related to East Asians then why is their language Turkic? And where did Bushmen (San and others) get their click-speak? And why do Pacific Islanders use mostly vowels? From God? Please explain, because languages are very interesting. And did all this dispersion end when (in the days of Peleg) the continents were divided?
So basically central asia, middle east and Asia is where it all starts and spreads from? Like bible pretty much says. Not africa even though it has an important role it's middle east and Asia like bible refers too numerously seems like. Also ham isn't as black as some thought he was very interesting. Like they say we all connected
Are you familiar with the Crisis in reproduction and grievance studies? Peer review is overrated; Academics ask a few friends to look it over who rubber stamp it and it gets published. More than half of our 'science' cannot be reproduced.
Please do the research! Your dates are based on the Masoretic text that dates to the 10th century after Christ. The early church and the New Testament line up well with the Septuagint text of the Old Testament that is over 1200 years older than the corrupted Masoretic text of the old testament.
Such an interesting video. The biggest question I have is how did the "Q" people get to the Americas between 500 and 1000 AD and how do we know they wiped out the peoples that were there before?
It is buried in another episode. A lot of this info escapes me on the detail-level, but I think I remember the overall idea of how the americas began to get people. There were a couple of influxes of people to the americas. The oldest civilization was the Olmecs down in South America. (I think south) They are the people who carved the big head statues. BIG heads. Ha. I believe Dr Jeanson hypothesized that they came over from Papua New Guinea and some of the other islands. That would make them a mixture of African and Asian. (Those islands today actually have very Asian looking native peoples and very African looking peoples on separate islands that are close together. What I found fascinating is that when I did a Google search on the olmecs there is a majorly contentious debate going on. There are some who feel the olmecs were only from africa peoples. And that they were displaced by the next group…what we would call Indians or natives. Or who are there now. The reason this is controversial is this would mean….the “Indians” as we used to call them….were the evil invaders before the evil white man. Ha! I look at the statues and see Asian and African and of course there are indigenous peoples there who could have been the exact model for these bid head statues. I find this all so fascinating. I am currently reading 1491 and have just ordered Jeanson’s book. Let God Be True!
The very simple and correct answer is that it did not happen according to what Jaesson is fantasying about. Nothing in reality support his assumptions or his model.
I'm one of those Q people. Very interesting to hear how and when we moved into America. One thing I know is that my people never built any pyramids or stone temples through out our recent history. I guess it would make sense that the Q people (my people) wiped out whoever first made the pyramids and stone temples.
I respect your work but there is a MASSIVE gap in the Haplogroups, most (indigenous) Europeans from Spain, for example, take off from the paternal R1b lineage. As it is a EUROPEAN haplogroup, not a Mongolian as you claimed in the video.
Your source for the 2400bc flood is in error. It comes from mathematic inferior Masoret texts. The worldwide floods are at 4502bce (Septuaginta). With this math in mind the missing times erased from histories will come to light. The missing 783 years of BC times. Makes a big difference.
Mt Ararat is in Turkey. Why would you start in Syria or Iraq? It may seem like a small detail, but the bible clearly states that the ark came to rest in the mountains of Ararat. Accuracy it important.
I'm most of the way through the video. But I want to ask this before I forget. Most human fossils would be people who lived before the flood, and not likely to have been in Noah's lineage. If their DNA is accessible, and further if it is not too degraded, could it not be useful in tracing all the way back to Adam?
Generally speaking, creatures that were the most able to flee the calamities were the least buried by them. Human fossils are far more rare than most others. But they do exist.
When and where did the Aboriginal of Australia arrive and who were the people they displaced? The aborigines say they have been in Australia for (40 to 60 thousand years) but as the earth is not that old when did they arrive and from where?
@@forgivenintheblood I think the big problem is the 2 groups don't have good answers either way apnd so each one picks their camp because they're never willing to co-mingle their theories.
Nathaniel, I have question. Is it right to think of the these letters or points of division as people seperating or as an individual father and his son's? It seems to me any point the we have a linage combine, that is an individual, and if I am right, then that man may or may not have been part of a dominant power at the time, but is more just a successful raiser of successful sons... So if this is the case, then it is more a case of looking for individuals that fit the pattern. I must get your book...
Babel 2400 BC 1000 people "just a guess" you say. So my "guess" is 500 or less were males. 300 possibly of an age to construct a huge structure. All this time devoted to labor to create this tower while still having time to make their own houses, farm, hunt and live? Not likely. And where the ruins? There are Ziggurats from that area that still exist. Are those the tower? And what about the pyramids? The pyramids are larger and the Egyptians left records of the amount of workers needed to make them. The number is now believed to 20,000. Thats 20 times more than the total population number you are "guessing" at. The great pyramid is also taller than any ziggurat so why are they still around and not destroyed?
If you read the Bible ..Genesis 11 v 3, And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. KJV. This was a brick built tower. Brick buildings have a finite life in the middle east and crumble away to form mounds of successive dwellings called tels. If one is looking for a tower of Babel then one is looking for a pile of earth or sand. The definitive evidence for the tower of Babel is Genesis chapter 3. Hebrews 11 tells us we believe the account of origin (made of things that do not appear) is to be received by faith. It is impressive on reviewing bible history that virtually nothing is visible in the archaeology...it is all received by faith.
@@sadtranz4451 Why is 1000 not enough to build the place? You seem to be starting off with the evolutionary premise that "people used to be smaller, weaker and dumber in the past", which is contradicted both by the biblical narrative and by the archaeological discoveries of their tools and weapons (most of which modern men could hardly lift, let alone handle). We're getting dumber and weaker like any copy of a copy of a copy... it's expected. Which means people used to be really strong and incredibly smart in the past. And they didn't have building codes and regulations ;)
Eve could not have the same DNA as Adam. Someone here said "Human DNA is DNA." No. There are XX chromosomes which women have and XY which men have. Eve could not be a clone of Adam. Plus, there is a certain minimum viable population of virtually all plants and animals (as well as other creatures such as fungi, protista, archaea and bacteria). If the population drops below that, then one of two things happens: inbreeding depression or insufficient diversity to cope with environmental stresses. Regarding inbreeding, closely related populations will increase the number of genetic problems because these are not bred out. Regarding insufficient diversity: when confronted by environmental extremes such as heat, drought, cold, and resistance to disease, there is not enough diversity for the group to acquire characteristics to cope with those things and so those environmental challenges kill them off. Research shows that the minimum viable population needed to avoid extinction is about 2,500 people. Having just eight closely related individuals is a recipe for the population to die out in less than 50 years.
@@donlimoncelli6108 It was just a thought I had that I wanted clarified. I knew however that God was in control of the process of creating Eve. It still seems in my human thinking that both Eve and Adam may have looked like fraternal twins.
@@pjh3066 But the thing is, if someone was created from another person's body, i.e., a rib, their genetic makeup would be the same as the donated rib. A person's full DNA is contained in all of their cells except the egg and sperm. That's the reason police can determine who committed a crime when they gather DNA. It can be from the person's saliva, blood, skin, or their hair as long as the root ball is intact. It doesn't matter. A full complement of their DNA is in each cell. A rib from Adam would be made up of Adam's DNA. The story was written by someone who was not aware of this and had no idea such a thing as DNA even existed. To them, a rib bone could be made into another human being. I wonder why the writer of Genesis didn't just say that Eve was created from the dust of the Earth and had life breathed into it.
I’m now we’ll past the halfway mark and the population numbers make no sense at all! He really needs to explain the growth rate, because it is not believable, or compatible with known events in history. And child survival rates were terrible. And life expectancy short.
“Oh great, Ken Ham is watching me, I have to sound convincing when spewing out this nonsense”. No wonder this guy looked so nervous. The pyramids were started in 2600 bce. The great pyramid of Giza was built about the same time as the flood, and construction on other pyramids continued right afterwards. The Sumarians, Egyptings, and others had writing before the flood. Why didn’t they write about it? It must have made the news?
The bible's account of the world population is PERFECT! I ran the calculations through AI and it arrived at 6 million people after 300 years since the flood. This was assuming that nobody died in a miscarriage of early deaths. But since infant mortality was common in the ancient world, and wars were present, the world population would've been around 4 million. If you look up the world population in 2000 BC, it says it was 4 million. The calculation is below: To calculate the population 300 years after the initial 3 men and 3 women under the given conditions, we will extend our calculations to include additional generations. Assumptions Recap Initial Population: 3 men and 3 women. Lifespan: Each person lives to 80 years. Childbearing Age: Women start having children at 16 and stop at 35. Birth Rate: Each woman has 1 child every 2 years from age 16 to 35. Generational Span: A new generation starts every 20 years (approximate). Childbearing Period Start age: 16 years. End age: 35 years. Duration: 35 - 16 = 19 years. Number of children per woman: 19 years / 2 years per child = 9.5 (rounded down to 9 children per woman). Generational Cycles We will calculate the population growth over 300 years. Initial Population: Year 0 3 men and 3 women. Generation 1: Years 0 - 35 Each of the 3 women has 9 children over 19 years. Total children: 3 women * 9 children = 27 children. Total population at the end of 35 years: 6 (initial) + 27 = 33 people. Generation 2: Years 35 - 70 Assume half of the 27 children are female: 13.5, rounded to 14 females. Each of these 14 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 14 women * 9 children = 126 children. Total population at the end of 70 years: 33 (previous) + 126 = 159 people. Generation 3: Years 70 - 105 Assume half of the 126 children are female: 63 females. Each of these 63 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 63 women * 9 children = 567 children. Total population at the end of 105 years: 159 (previous) + 567 = 726 people. Generation 4: Years 105 - 140 Assume half of the 567 children are female: 283.5, rounded to 283 females. Each of these 283 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 283 women * 9 children = 2,547 children. Total population at the end of 140 years: 726 (previous) + 2,547 = 3,273 people. Generation 5: Years 140 - 175 Assume half of the 2,547 children are female: 1,273.5, rounded to 1,273 females. Each of these 1,273 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 1,273 women * 9 children = 11,457 children. Total population at the end of 175 years: 3,273 (previous) + 11,457 = 14,730 people. Generation 6: Years 175 - 210 Assume half of the 11,457 children are female: 5,728.5, rounded to 5,729 females. Each of these 5,729 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 5,729 women * 9 children = 51,561 children. Total population at the end of 210 years: 14,730 (previous) + 51,561 = 66,291 people. Generation 7: Years 210 - 245 Assume half of the 51,561 children are female: 25,780.5, rounded to 25,781 females. Each of these 25,781 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 25,781 women * 9 children = 232,029 children. Total population at the end of 245 years: 66,291 (previous) + 232,029 = 298,320 people. Generation 8: Years 245 - 280 Assume half of the 232,029 children are female: 116,014.5, rounded to 116,014 females. Each of these 116,014 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 116,014 women * 9 children = 1,044,126 children. Total population at the end of 280 years: 298,320 (previous) + 1,044,126 = 1,342,446 people. Generation 9: Years 280 - 300 Assume half of the 1,044,126 children are female: 522,063 females. Each of these 522,063 women has 9 children. Total children in this generation: 522,063 women * 9 children = 4,698,567 children. Total population at the end of 300 years: 1,342,446 (previous) + 4,698,567 = 6,041,013 people. Conclusion After 300 years from the initial 3 men and 3 women, the population would be approximately 6,041,013 people under the given assumptions. This includes multiple overlapping generations of offspring.
Is it possible to compose a tune for your church because I have always believed the earth is 6000 years old.I play the piano and my compositions come from God and my life has planed out very similar to Nesus
Sargon of Akkad reigned around 2300 BC. 1000 people, really? One thing that Jeanson is leaving out is the high mortality rate up to last 100 years. The average lifespan up to the. Late 1800’s was 35 years. He is way off on a lot here.
Galatians 4:8-9 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you know God-- or rather are known by God.... John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. " John 1:12-13 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. 1 Peter 3:20-22 God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand-- with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
If a person's DNA comes 1/2 from each parent and so on back in time then after 10 generations we'd have 1/1024th of it from each of 1024 people (minus any duplicate lines) so the Y-chromosome one only comes from 1 in 1024 -the man's dad's dad's dad's..... dad. What about the DNA he'd have from the other 1023 ancestors from 10 generations back? It only traces one line. 20 generations back and we have around a million ancestors (minus duplicate lines) It's an insignificant fraction of the ancestry. The further back you go the more likely lines are duplicated as people married distant cousins or closer. Just after the flood they only had cousins to marry!
I would love to know how you came to this conclusion. Given the problems in the 21st Century of a population a third of this size......can you seriously be serious?
iaincumming982 wrote ".... And, btw the flood was in 2348bc " The flood never happen, there are not one single observations where a global flood is the best explanation of what we observe. Not one single science field support a global flood or a young earth. They all tell a different story.
@@miscamisca6775 I don't know where you got that nonsense, but I cannot help you sort out your delusions and unbelief. There was a world wide deluge - the evidence is in holy scripture. Many of the fields of science were set up by believers such as James Clerk Maxwell... Electro dynamics. Do me a favour, don't come back spouting that verbiage and get a proper education before it is too late for YOU.
Of course, that's why incest was not an issue with early man. However Evolution seems to disregard inbreeding which baffles me as that means there are a lot of very stupid scientists out there.
@@roscius6204 hahaha...the supernatural my friend is certainly not in the realm of the natural. What's funny is that you cannot see that Evolution is claiming the supernatural and yet it has no legs except in very vivid imaginations. DNA is coding which can only come from an intelligent mind. Evolution is a fairy tale birthed out of unintelligent dull minds.
@@remainhumble6432 By your logic here, supernatural evolution is possible then? and why would it not be part of the designers tool set. I love how you guys want to cherry pick the science that suits you and ignore anything that doesn't. Not how it works.
@@roscius6204 I do expect you to use your brain for this one. Evolution by definition implies that things undergo an 'update' of sorts. That is what is foolish. We are seeing signs of inbreeding in nature not things upgrading. That only makes sense if the original human had incredible genetic variation that is now slowly degrading via natural selection and inbreeding. That implies a supernatural beginning and now a natural consequence which is inbreeding. The ancestor of the camel and the llama had genes for both these creatures. But now the llama has lost the camel genes. Certainly changed but is now weaker and is the product of loss of information not gain. To believe that a bunch of monkeys could somehow grow a voice box and other human traits by inbreeding with one another is frankly absurd.
I guess when you have a pre-determined conclusion going in it takes a considerable amount of mental gymnastics to bend history around to make ends meet. I really tried to watch the whole thing but had to keep rewinding to make sure i was hearing what i thought i was hearing. Im having problems putting together in my mind a couple of things Y chrome theory- it sounds like your describing whats called "genetic drift" in cloning. It happens when the same dna sequence is continually repeated. Like making a copy and then making a copy from the copy, and so on. The original is gone and the copies fade until unstable. Our dna doesnt diminish, it combines to make a new sequence. Noahs daughter in laws werent sisters were they? Timeline and population growth.. 3 breeding pairs of humans had how many children in 150 years?? Then after babel down to 1000 in 2400 bc to 17million 500 years later? Id love to see the stats on that.how many women had how many babies, how old when they started and stopped. How long did they lve. Adjusted for miscarridges, infant mortality. Heck how many never grew old enough to breed? Then there is the timeline itself.. I must admit, i did not understand how the gragh you displayed worked other than distorting how time works. Then there is the amount of time itself. And china. And the americas. What do i mean? China has existed as china for 5000 years, at least. The first peoples in N. America goes back to before the end of the last ice age and in south America the ancestors of the olmecs and maya built cities rivaling modern ones that are turning out to be even older as they are finding that many of the tempes and pyrimids are built on top of even older structures. Some times as many as 3. There were cities with as many as a half of a million people occupying central and south America when Jesus was alive. In fact there are similar things being discovered all over the planet as our ability to observe the world around us improves. And the interesting thing is that the more we actually look, the farther back we find evidence of not only man, but civilization. ( see golbeki-tepi in turkey) As for the flood. I think its pretty interesting that nearly every ancient culture has a great flood story in their histories. The timelines are much much older. Whats interesting about that, is that there is growing evidence that there was a great flood around 10,000 bc when the polar ice sheet melted abruptly. Of course the indiginous people survived That and it would seem, Every Other flood that might have come after since they are still here. Wait, what? It just occured to me that it would be impossible for any other culture to have any other explanation for their history if your interpretation is correct. If you are right then the only tale that would have survived is would be yours because in every other version of the flood story, the entire planet isnt killed off less an ark. In other words it was really really bad. Civilization back to the stone age bad, but not everyone and everything died. Oh and the sea level rose over 400 feet which would have submerged most of the occupied land where its been ever since. Maybe your mistranslating something. There is physical evidence of the earlier cataclysm . look at the channel scablands in n America and the bone yard in alaska. ( i guess i got a little carried away there, sorry.) So??
Our gens die out at about 70 years old. Their gens lived about 5-6 times longer. So not only 5-6 times larger child bearing window, but generations cohabitated rather than passing away. This is not hard to figure out on a simple notepad. The truth is in Jesus, he’s our only hope, why doubt it? If you have questions, just work it out on a notepad and at the very least see that it is very plausible. Regarding tales not lining up- many of us don’t even know what jobs our own great grandparents did, or what their names were. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t a preserved truth. Making something up when there is a written record is strange and arrogant, and if Gods word is true we have to answer to God for our pride. Sir I know how it feels to doubt, but the Lord Jesus can set you free beyond anything you can imagine, He truly gives a peace that passes understanding, and a hope as an anchor of the soul. Trust Him and don’t draw back. The Bible is indeed just another story. Don’t dismiss it without real rigorous study. ❤ I believe Genesis because of Jesus and His promises, and have not done so blindly.
@@joseph_miller When I saw the video several months ago, the F, G, P, and L lineages were not on Dr.Jeanson's family tree. Subsequent videos have filled them in.
To go from 8 people in 2550 BC to almost 8 billion today is not possible. There simply wasn't enough time. This is because a person can do the math to make the claim it would take place. But the reality is that life in the past was HARD. There were no Walmarts so one you have to depend on a successful harvest. Due to hard freezes and droughts that harvest (i.e. food) wasn't guaranteed. There was no modern housing or central heating. Winters took their toll. Nor were there modern medical facilities. All these factors meant the fatality rate was quite high, especially the infant mortality rate. A more realistic number is easily 3 to 4 times that length of time to go from 8 to 8 billion people. Which means the earth can't possibly be only 6,000 years old.
If you take 1 penny and double it everyday for 30 days you will end up with $5,300,000+ . Compounding can be scary once it gets to exponential increases
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8:52 FYI "Was Adam the First Human Being?" is now called "PROOF That Adam Was a Literal Person"
2550BC is way too early for the flood. 2550+1656+2020=6176 since creation. We would be 176 years into the Messiahs Reign. Its more towards 2400 BC as Noahs Flood. But generally good work.
@@philliprude5997 you cant believe everyrhing you see on TV. No culture is older than 6000 Years. Farming began before the Flood, ie Cain and Abel. If you believe secular history you will never make sense of it. The Bible is proven right time after time.
If you just read your Bible, you will see a phrase in the eighth century BC, repeated by God to his profits over and over again…” that all the nations of the earth may know….” They knew about Jeremiah buying the field. They knew about the miracles in Egypt. So obviously, people traveled. Very bytes are in his book. Bible lands talks about how Israel was the land bridge between the three major continents of the world, Europe, Africa, and Asia. And Capernaum was on the great trunk Road. They knew about Israel and the God of Israel, all through the world..
Why do people fight so hard to prove young earth and deny that anything happened before 2500 in man? We all worship or believe in a creator, even Big Bang is a theory of creation and made up by a catholic. They all give praise or stature to whatever they believe the creator is. Even an atheist can't deny something created all this, they just don't believe in Gods. There is no definitive evidence of creation in any theory man has come up with. Why is it so hard for people to find similarities in religions and ideas and realize most beliefs are the same as how to act with others and how to live with others and what is good and bad are the same across the board for human behavior for the most part. The whole my creator is better then yours and I'll prove it with theories that have no proof across the board is counter productive to humanity. Until man humbles themselves and can agree that we will never be able to "prove" the theory of creation or why we are here. Until that happens men will argue , fight and go to war. We need to be there for each other not arguing over creation. There is good and bad on the planet most of us are good the bad ones are the rulers taking away our natural human rights that all religions and faiths share. Stop bickering and trying to prove your right humble thy self and focus on the bad/evil on earth and expose it. That is how we better our futures not sitting around waiting for our Creation Theories End. Massive Comet Massive volcano or a pole shift would prove us all wrong very quickly focus on what we can prove to be true and help all humanity not just your own egos and faiths. Our lives on this world could end tomorrow live like it!! Be good to other have faith in whatever you want but stop trying to prove others wrong. Waste of time. My Faith is irrelevant to my point, I have looked for many years to try to prove creation is what I believe it is. But I am humble enough to know that it can never be proven and I'm okay with that. Humbling down makes you see so much more then a narrow view of faith. I get along with everyone I meet and try to spread unity in humanity not my faith. You can prove to other that your faith is good by accepting different views and keeping yours to yourself. Peaceful debates will happen like that instead of arguments and trying to prove anything and that is where you find we are all the same not by forcing theory's on others.
For tens of millions of years in the latest Cretaceous period, sea levels were much higher. The gulf of Mexico extended northward, covering much of the Eastern U.S.
@@truthisbeautiful7492 Nope, Jimmiewoble is correct - he is referring to the Sundance Sea, an epicontinental sea that existed some 80 - 70 million years ago. Home to some of the most terrifying sea creatures of all time, this sea split the North American continent into 2. The history of the sea is well known thanks to the numerous fossil beds it left behind....absolutely nothing to do with mythical floods.
@@roydodds3693 yes, the numerous fossil beds are evidence of the global flood. Have you read Carved into Stone by Dr. Clarey, who is a geologist who worked for the oil industry? He uses data from 3 continents to explain how the mega sequences fit with the global flood. The great sedimentary layers of sandstone, limestone, shale, the sea fossils, the coal, oil, and gas, all from the global flood. The continents were moving apart rapidly, and sedimentary layers were laid down rapidly, as shown by Mount Saint Helens, and canyons carved rapidly, like in the Mars flood and the Lake Missoula flood. The global flood was a year long, and had different stages at different times. It took time for the sea levels to raise to flood the continents. You are wrongly thinking it took hundreds of millions of years slowly what actually only took one year rapidly. The global flood isn't mythical. You accept the mega flood on Mars, right? The global flood on Earth was even bigger then that. The current mountains didn't exist before the global flood, but are a result of the global flood. This is all explained in the catastrophic plate tectonics model. The initial creation of the planet, the period after creation, Massive volcanoism and the global flood, followed by the one rapid Ice Age, and the time since the global flood explains what you see. Valleys, volcanos, ice sheets, don't require millions of years. The Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead and He affirmed the global flood, and the global flood fits with the sedimentary layers and fossils that we see everywhere. There is no reason to call it 'mythical' since it really happened. Rather then slow and gradual, many geologic processes can happen rapidly.
@@truthisbeautiful7492 until someone can explain, without resorting to magic, how dodos survived in Mauritius and koala bears made it back to Australia I cannot except as anything but superstitious nonsense the concept of a flood. One geologist trying to fit the facts into his religious beliefs versus the rest of geology that dismisses this concept for lack of evidence, and much evidence to the contrary, does not make for a convincing argument.
The flood had to happen before 10,000 BC. That is when the first evidence of farming and agriculture arose in the highlands of Anatolia, near where the ark had landed.
I enjoy the information presented in these videos. However, I think that extreme biblical literalism is clouding your conclusions. Example: your understanding of the word "all" to mean that every human on the entire planet came to Egypt during the famine, or that the famine impacted every area on the planet at the same time, both northern and southern hemispheres, is not an accurate or logical interpretation. Another example of the word "all": "And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Ceasar Augustus, that ALL the world should be taxed." (Luke 2:1) We can't reasonably conclude that every inhabitant of China, Indonesia, Africa, and the Americas journeyed to Rome to be taxed by Augustus. "All" in this context obviously means only the citizens and peoples under Roman dominion, not the entire world. Even under the influence of divine inspiration, the scriptural authors are still human, using a limited human language, limited human experience and understanding, to write the stories and teachings they are inspired to record. The limited human experience and perspective of the scriptural authors, whether it be Moses (Genesis) or Luke, has to be factored in to the exegesis.
The very title of this podcast is incorrect. We know in the Bible that Abraham lived around 2000 BC. Even in that account, there were Philistines, Egyptians, the kings of the plain, and the allied kings of Elam, Mesopotamia, and Hatti. There were hundreds of thousands of people in that region alone. So far off base they are here.
Never have we seen a skin color change happen in 4-5 generations (approximately 100 years) of a homogeneous ethnic group/population. Can you mention any city in the world where the skin color or any other ethnic traits changed during 100 years without people moving in or out? (When you discuss the significance of the Y chromosome you fail to mention the same significance of the mitochondrial DNA.) How to fit the ice age into your timeline? And how to fit the continental drift, the ongoing movement of the continental plates, we know how slow they moves. 14:47 No, people didn’t live longer back then (2300bc), we know at what age people died by looking at skeletons we find, and never have people lived longer than we do today, based on the skeletons we have available. 37:45 You ask why the population in one continent couldn’t have a notable ethnic change due to influence from other continents 1000bc, after saying the ethnic variation still hadn’t become significant. There is something I missed here. 38:35 I assume the Y chromosome distribution he is referring to is scientifically known and accepted, but his timeline is not scientifically based, it is a made up timeline to fit the story in the bible. And even he knows his claims is already proven wrong he still share it so Christians can believe the conflict between science and the Bible is due to amateur scientists. Truth is he is an amateur himself, well aware he is lying. I see it too often when Christians debunk science, “too often” as in every time. There are so many scientists in so many fields sharing their findings and adjusting the timeline of the human history, debunking the young earth theory, and moving the events in the human history backwards to an earlier period. The proof against young earth is so abundant and so clear that the discussion about the age of the earth and the timeline of humans is not really happening, don’t be fooled by the video to think their claims are serious and could possible be true.
Another thing to consider: the Sahara desert wasn’t there right after the flood.
Did you see "Were the pyramids Built Before the Flood?" Shows where ~650 years were left out on purpose.
Big thing to consider is how could this small amount of people build a giant tower up to heaven? They took out 400 to 400 years of history. . Why to cover up Jesus genealogy. He wasn't of the tribe of Levi so even they asked him where did he get his priesthood he said after the order of melchizeidek . The rabi messed with his line back to Seath Adam God . Its missing stuff around Noah
If the Sahara desert was not THERE right after the flood, where was it? LOL!
@Rafael Shumaker the earth was one continent then split after the flood. Is why wich caused some new deserts moved things around
@@rafaelshumaker1883 Oh, you, the wisest of men! Don’t you know that the Sahara desert keeps growing and if extrapolated back, it starts at about 4000 years ago? Study your geology.
I always thought BCE stood for ‘Before Christ Eternal.’ I prefer that and will carry on using that❤️
BCE(Before common era) and CE(Common era) are peoples way of removing God. I still use just BC(Before Christ) and AD(After death) that Pope Gregory established with the Gregorian calendar we still use today.
@@cliffordhammontree1009 Anno Domini {the year of the lord}
This video is making me start to rethink world history. it is going to take a while to work this out. Times of change
The problem with these videos (at least on TH-cam) is THEY ARE NOT NUMBERED IN THE TITLE! You just said this was #21... But How do I know where episode 5 is? IMHO
I'm with you Freddy.
Loom at the page and find the series aka Playlist. That way you can watch from video 1
Search youtube...answers in genesis nathaniel jeanson the videos are in order by the way they were uploaded.
Playlist is called "The New History of the Human Race with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson". There's also a newer playlist now that continues upon this one (and after the book was published) called "Traced: DNA's Big Surprise with Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson".
I think the Septuagint was correct with the dates 3298, and I believe predynastic King Ka of Egypt & Kush of India is Cush of the Bible which would make King Narmer Nimrod, so this would mean Mizraim would have unified Egypt AFTER his nephew Nimrod/Marduk conquered the world, and caused havoc at Babel. That would put the date of the Tower Babel around 3150 B.C. ... The oldest languages of the world are no older than 5000 years old. I don't believe the pyramids would have survived a worldwide flood, but these dates make sense since the oldest Pyramid was made around 2686 B.C. AFTER a 3298 BC flood.
amazing how accurate the Scripture is
His timeline needs some fine tuning. Genetic studies performed since 2015 have revealed that the Yamna culture, thought to have spoken some stage of Proto-Indo-European, carried R1b-L23. The Yamnaya/Yamna gave rise to the Indo-Europeans and through migration/conquest spread the Indo European languages. The descendants of this lineage were the Germanic peoples in the western branch. The Huns pushed them into the Western Roman Empire and established the Germanic Kingdom/Successor states where the R1b came to dominate the paternal descent of Europe.
Question...after the flood...the Waters receded. How much did they recede and how long did it take to fill the ocean back up. We keep finding evidence of civilization under water. The Bahamas. The potential of pyramid and villages under water. Could as human history spreads out...was there far less bodies of waters to traverse? Could there have been far more land bridges? It would explain a lot of how we find pyramid technology spread out around the world. Recent radar scans shows incredible civilizations spread out in South America and such.
answersingenesis.org/the-flood/feedback-where-did-all-floodwater-go/
The post flood ice age kept sea levels lower with so much of it frozen in glaciers.
If you’re using the masoretic texts you’re missing 650 years from Shem to Abraham. Reference the Samaritan Pentateuch, greek Septuagint and flavius Josephus all disagree with the masoretic text on this genealogy.
I agree David,
The begetting ages:
{Genesis 11:11-26}
Shem: MT (*100 years), LXX (100 years),
SP (100 years)na
Arphaxad: MT (35 years), LXX (**135 years),
SP (135 years)
Kainan: LXX (°130 years)
Shelah: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years),
SP (130 years)
Eber: MT (34 years), LXX (**134 years),
SP (134 years)
Peleg: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years),
SP (130 years)
Reu: MT (32 years), LXX (**132 years),
SP (132 years)
Serug: MT (30 years), LXX (**130 years),
SP (130 years)
Nahor: MT (29 years), LXX (**79 years),
SP (79 years)
Terah: MT (*70 years), LXX (**70 years),
SP (70 years)
Rule:
(MT) = Masoretic Text
(☆minus 650 yrs and 130 yrs - Kainan/m)
(LXX) = Greek Septuagint
(SP) = Samaritan Penteteuch
(°) = Luke 3:36 second witness
(*) = The MT, the LXX, and the SP are in agreement.
(**) = Josephus is in agreement with the LXX and SP.
(na) = Josephus does not give a witness.
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Flavius Josephus was a first century historian.
'Antiquities of the Jews'
"The things narrated in the sacred Scriptures, are, however, innumerable, seeing that they embrace the history of *5,000* years..."
(Ant. 1:13)
Josephus claimed to use *Hebrew* text in his recitation of Genesis and other OT books.
(Against Apion, 1:1, 54; Ant. 1:5, 9:208, 10:218)
Rabbinic deflation theory (after 70 A.D.):
a), Motive (Chrono-Messianism)
b), Means (Athority; Rabbi Akiba 40-137 A.D.)
c), Opperatunity (Judaism had been reduced to one Pharisaic sect after 70 A.D.)
-->There is no unbiased reliable second witness to the complete time-line of the MT before Eusebius in the 4th century A.D.
Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in *a good old age* an old man, and full of years; and was gathered to his people. (175 years)
{Genesis 25:8}
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By MT Chronology this statement would be untrue.
According to the MT, Eber was still alive and lived to be a good old age of 464 years, more than twice the age of Abraham.
Shem lived to be 600 years old, yet according to the MT he only dies 25 years before Abraham death. (The Jews also falsely claim that he is the high priest of Salem, Melchizedek in a vain attempt to discredit Christ claim of being a priest in the order of Melchizedek.)
So many are ignorant of this fact.
Milliins are Misinformed because they depend wholly on their preferred translation say the king James..
Many commonly used versions are based on the flawed masoretic manuscripts which means the majority of people will be ill informed if they care to try and work out mathematically when certain events were said to have occured using the time or dates they arrived at using the data provided in their bible.
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There's simply not enough time for population growth etc to have those events in the time of Moses etc..
Allow six hundred years other translations allow..and it's then possible.
Fake news
Disagree.
He does mention in a previous video that he is using the MT chronology and the long sojourn in Egypt, suggesting that one would have to adjust the timeline for these other chronologies.
P.S. I agree the VXX chronology and the shorter sojourn timeline appears to make the most sense
It would be great to see you doing this on a map where the land is together and then spreading out.
That would be mixing the timeline of pre flood geography with the post flood world.
I have really enjoyed hearing how your stand on the Bible has helped form your view of history in light of biology. Why would you not take an equally strong stand in the other direction with eschatology?
Eschatology is not readily measurable and not always understood until it happens. We are not meant to fully understand the future as God wants to walk this with us. Eschatology continues to be used by charlatans to push an evil agenda.
Egyptologists say that the Pyramids of Giza were built around 2550 BC. They claim it took at least 30,000 people. The step pyramid was built around 100 years earlier (i.e. 2650 BC). Then how do you explain your theory that around 2400 B.C. only 1000 people existed? Something is wrong with the timing. The Septuagint, the oldest known translation of the Bible (many centuries to 1000 years older than the Masoretic text), has a much more realistic chronology. The construction of the Tower of Babel and the step pyramid of Saqqara (the Joseph's pyramid) is only possible because the dating of the chronology is set back by 600 years. However. it still remains a mystery as to who built the Great Pyramids of Giza, as our technology has not been able to duplicate this megalithic construction to this day. the same applies to many other magalith structures worldwide.
Yes, The population and time line for Egypt make that story about Noa not trustworthy.
Also, meanwhile China and Inda everything went on smoothly without interruption.
Mainstream dates are often wrong. Sometimes they are off by 100, 200, 500 years. They're really guessing on some of this stuff. For example the early, middle, and late Egyptian periods. These are debated time-frames. So saying the Pyramids were built around 2550 BC means they very easily could have been built 300 years earlier or 300 year later....... these are not pinpoint dates, even in mainstream fields and studies.
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"Mainstream dates are often wrong."
You are thinking of David H. Koch Pyramids Radiocarbon Project ?
I believe that the Masoretic Text was deliberately altered in Genesis 11 where 100 years were removed from the descendants of Noah to remove 600 years from history in an effort to make Shem still alive in Abraham's day and claim that he was Melchizedek. LLX, other texts add 100 years to their lives.
LXX also removes Isaiah 9:6
Who else is watching the documentary series on Netflix, Ancient apocalypse? I came back to find this graph, very useful to convert all the dates that they throw out there!
Its from that guy that Joe Rogan has on his show all the time, Graham Hancock I believe his name is. Its funny, he challenges the mainstream science about having these ancient advanced civilizations during the ice age, and its funny because he's right and he's got lots of evidence for it, the mainstream can't stand him! how dare he questions their narrative! etc. I only wish he realized that mainstream science is also wrong on the dates! especially with the dating of the ice age. It's not 20,000 BC years it's more like 2,000 years BC! etc.
I'm only up to the first episode, but yeah its quite beautiful, he paints southeast Asia, the Island of Java as being part of Sundaland, part of the Asia continent. Water was a lot lower back in the day. Hes actually pretty on to it! But he misses the point on what coursed the big event that wiped out a lot of progress in these civilizations/ climate change. We know it here as Joseph's Famine. I get the feeling that he will bring up ancient floods, but it will be the wrong type of flood if you know what I mean (Ice melting, Ocean rising and cooling, CO2 getting sucked up into the ocean).
I've read comments by skeptics about the population and how Noah's family couldn't have populated the world but if you take the fact that in 1800 the world population was only 1 billion people according to statisticians and grew by what 7 billion people in only 223 years.
It's a start. But we really need historical DNA to map it. 5000 is not enough. If you sample, then for each sub group today, you may need 100 people. 400 million people would be more objective. With this, you are finding sub sets they aren't sampled much, if at all.
It would be interesting to have an evolutionist, who is also a linguist, involved in this discussion and see how the conversation would go.
This is very interesting!
Yeah, this would be a very funny “discussion” indeed. But I fear discussions are not welcome around this sensible subject, as it might raise at least some unpleasant questions.
Let’s just take the account of the Sumerians, whose culture already flourished in east Mesopotamia half a millennium “before the flood” and had its beginnings dating back to more than 5000 BC (but hey of course, I am probably wrong here, since it contradicts the only true source of knowledge in the universe and so, cannot stand the pressure of the one and only truth). This ancient empire, after having built some quite impressive neolithic megacities like Adab, Eridu, Isin, Kiš, Kullaba, Lagaš, Larsa, Nippur, Ur and Uruk eventually one day ended up being succeeded by another, named The Akkadian Empire, that then one day built the famous city of Babylon that only began to flourish under Hammurabi I around 1800 BC. Before this time, Babylon was not more than a little town and certainly not the place of choice, where you would build the daring Tower of Babel. Around 2500 BC Lagaš certainly would have been a more prominent option, being the capital of the current sumerian dynasty of that time. But again, who am I to argue?
And finally coming to my point: why do we even have well documented and deciphered records coming in all those millions of little clay tablets written in the Sumerian language, if our ground zero in history is set after that people's existence? Or at least without giving them any historical timeframe to develop from. And unbaked clay should not have withstood the cataclysm of the flood, which then also accounts for all the sumerian cities, since they too were built only from sun baked clay, that dissolves with ease in water. Especially if it comes to lots and lots of water). Or have all those megacities, accounted to the Sumerians, that at their time could have held over 100.000 citizens with ease, been built by this brave building expedition of around 1000 people, that were responsible for the famous Tower? 1000 People Composed of at least 50 % women, and additional 25 % children and elderly people, needlessly to mention. Were they the same that around 2500 BC built the famous Cheops Pyramid in Egypt? Must have been somehow, since labor was quite in a shortage. I still think it is kinda though. Just imagine that in those 20 years of recorded construction time claimed by the corresponding pharaoh, 2.3 million blocks of stone, each weighing between 2.5 - 50 tons had to be put in place in a rhythm of roughly one stone per minute over 8 hours a day.
My comment is probably being deleted anyway. But it was fun writing it.
@@surething716do you have the calendar in which these BC civilizations followed? Like when Hammurabi was in power, what day did November 28, 1800BC fall on. How did they know there were BC? Also, if Jesus isn’t real, what sets the marker for year 0? Why are we in the year 2023 right now?
@@HarryHafsak For those ancient civilizations, there was no such a thing as a global calendar and the understanding of a certain global year, what makes it quite difficult even to historians for finding the rough real date of an event. Each civ attributed its own time to the rule of a certain king and then some related closed by events like wars, rituals or external influences like droughts, eclipses or comets (the latter 3 being rare and a blessing for historians, as they allow comparison and synchronizing with records from other cultures at that time und thus, synchronizing events evenly between them). Thus, in order to get a proper picture of a civilization’s timeline, often the „big ones „in terms of historical recording have to be used as reference - being Egypt and Mesopotamia - as their records are extremely numerous compared to minor empires.
They certainly did not know anything about being BC or a month being called November, as we don’t know how many days/years we are still around here before WW3 kicks in, blasting away this global civilization. For our successors - as primitive as they will be - we will probably simply be dated as “prewar”.
There never was a year 0 and people living around that time did not care for it either. In our cultural region of influence around that time, the Roman Empire was the general reference for centuries to come and so was their timeline, based on remarking emperors. The last one being Diocletian that begun 284 AD and every event then after being counted as X years after Diolcetian. Then in the early 500’s - due to some symmetries with the moon calendar and the common calendar that has a period of 532 years (needed to calculate the precise date for the Ester celebration), and nobody caring any longer for some ancient roman emperor - some monks figured out that it would be opportune to change to another point of reference, being the supposed year of Crist’s birth. Only in the 800’s under Charlemagne this parallel system became more of a standard, to what it is nowadays.
@@surething716wonder how you come to the date of the origin of the Sumerian civ. Just reading it from someone somewhere? What if they are wrong?
@MyNameIsBenneth the only certainty in life is death. Even 1+1=2 can be proven to be wrong (ask a mediocre mathematician, he will help you out on that).
What do you understand under "wrong" relating the Sumerians? A couple of decades? Whiteout a doubt. Centuries? A few maybe. Millenia? Most certainly not, as long as we refer to the phase where they begun building city-states.
How can we be sure? Carbon dating, comparison of co-existing other peoples from around the same time and sharing the same environment. If Sumer hadn't been there in the south, Akkad had expanded until the river delta - where influencial and imposing cities like Ur and Uruk already have been risen, holding then to hundreds of thousands of inhabitants and from which cultural and territorial expansion were cast upon the upper lands of Mesopotamia.
On the other hand assuming that those huge cities were build a couple of thousand years in the past, from a hand full o individuals, just arriving from the necessity to make those number match some fantastic and absurd creationist requirements... is just beyond ignorance.
I would love to ask you then for your opinion about the origin of iron deposits in our crust. Where did they come from? Or petrol, natural gas... as there supposedly are mere 6000 years of total history from which they could have emerged. Did God just placed them there in the soil for us to have some resources in a future, completely unimaginable for the authors of the Old Testament? This then would probably go in hand with old fossils. Or they are a prove of faith of the real belivers (I love that one) or science is just complete incapable of anything. Funny thing is, that I am typing this right here with a result of science. Quantum physics are needed in order to build a cellphone. Just a hint. And if we are capable of such marvels, how could something profane as C14 dating be totally impossible and wrong? Another hint: it isn't! It's findings match perfectly with what we observe, and can imply forecasts that can be falsified or approved. THAT is the basis of science. Not taking anything for granted, that does not predict or prove anything nor serve of any other need in contextual analysis.
What exactly does the Old Testament predict? What does a 6000 years old Earth predict that can be verified? Just name me something, I am always eager to learn.
I would like to know how much that "PhD guy" gets from his cristian institutes, funding all this nonsense research in order to deliberately come up with "thesis" as shown here. I would love to see him argue this implications from a geographical, anthropological and socio-economic perspective.
The implications that some stubborn cristians need in order to live their religious believes are just from another world and prove how easy it is, to mislead others by some idiotic assumptions, even today, in times where everyone could ask an AI based service for a short and easy to understand resume of the history of mankind and beyond that, of our planet (even my grandmother could do this), in order to at least have an own perspective about a subject that until then seemed to be too complicated to understand to a mere 0,05 % of its entirety in order for anyone being able to come up supporting this nonsense here, beyond of course the purpose of pure amusement and trolling (as the author of this "research" is deliberately doing with his barely illiterate audience)
Thanks Dr. Jeanson, for the marvelous marvelous presentation on the population growth after the flood - this very much accords with the progress of civilizations, and the movement of various people groups throughout the earth. I got a little lost with the Genetics stuff, but I'll trust your judgement in that field 😃
This is FANTASTIC!!
Could this type of research be used to show that all the unclean animals each trace back to just one pair per kind, whereas all the clean animals trace back to seven pairs per kind (minus however many were sacrificed by Noah after the flood was over)?
Unlikely, because certain kinds and species were deemed unclean. For example, pigs or swine as well as snakes (I believe snakes were unclean) and obviously snakes and pigs have no common ancestor
Thank you for pointing out the ambiguity that I overlooked. I've made the necessary correction. But in regards to your mistake, only kinds of animals were designated either clean or unclean, not species.
@@rafaelshumaker1883 a snake isn't a species nor is a pig/swine, they're both kinds
This is fabulous news. Please tell me where to purchase this book if it is published? I have been working on this using Ussher's Annals of the World and it is a huge undertaking_
Dr Jeanson, are you going to Roots Tech this year to speak or sell your books and testing?
he would be laughed out of there. his time line is way off
It would appear that from Creation to the Flood. 1,500 years. Earth could have easily had 8 Billion People as today. Especially if the average lifespan was 900 years and couples had 6 children. Totally possible.
This is EPISODE 23 in THE NEW HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE.
Dr Jeanson, I wonder what insights this migration model would have if it's overlaid with a model of continental drift for the same time periods given here. I'm no geologist, but I wonder if the distances were not as far as today, and the implications of that. That would make this even more amazing.
Great work Nathaniel. But I think for the increasing precision of your work there is a demand upon you to do the research that resolves the length of the sojourn in Egypt and the implications of the promises concerning all the families of the earth.
In your study of the movement of DNA across the globe, how does it align with the three diaspora movements of the Jewish people: Assyrian, Babylonian, and Roman empires... additionally, we have the Hebrews and other ethnicities used as scribes, translators, and traders as conquering armies moved across the continents; what effect or impact would that have on moving certain DNA profiles across the continents, since the conquerors would be the dominant DNA in those lands???
What about Adena, Hopewell, Mississippian cultures in North America?
88,000 people alive at the time of Abraham!! Fascinating!
Can somebody please send a link to the first video of the series
We know we have black blood in our fair-skinned, blue-eyed family. We just don't know how far back. Some theorize (although the reason for their theory has been proven wrong) that it came from before the Mayflower. At any rate, what I find more fascinating is the wide-spread instance of what appears to be fair-skinned and blue or green eyed people with blond or red hair all over the world in ancient times...even in the Americas. It seems to pop out in the most unusual places, like in New Zealand among native tribes. Since these things are recessive traits, I have come to the conclusion that one of the founding members of Noah's family must have also been green-eyed and red haired or something to that effect. The recurrence of this in legends, paintings, mummies, reported descendants and possibly statues (which we can't see the color of but might deduce the possibility) is just wild.
WAYNE MAY who has worked on the mounds people of the Great Lakes region thinks that they were the Jaradites and they looked more black in structure and features. Any thoughts
What population size would be needed to build the pyramids?
You may be missing that the lands divided during Peleg, which means there could have been people in the Americas.
Your point that population growth rate differences between people groups can mean that one people group can "take over" from another is very important. In Exodus 1 the new king in Egypt cites your point as the reason that the Egyptians should oppress the people of Israel! It's another place where genetics (or should I say demographics?) supports the Scriptures!
What is this "the salmon" you keep repeating? What's that? Salmon croquetts??? & What do you think of Pangeia? Was the earth divided in the days of Peleg?
What about Genesis chap. 10, v 25 ? did land masses begin to break apart before the tower of Babel & people groups spread to those locations before the drifting continents made it too far to reach ?
"Too far to reach"? Open sea going outrigger canoes sailed for hundreds and thousands of miles. Hawaii. Tahiti. New Zealand. Easter Island.
I believe as the flood was happening the most broke up. I'm sure after also for they still move today . Boat building not a problem once trees large enough.
All the continents are still connected today, it's just not visible because it's underwater. If you dropped the ocean level by 60 meters (if i remember correctly), you could walk on a narrow land bridge from Russia to Alaska, from Thailand to Australia (via Malaysia and Indonesia), from Spain to Africa via Gibraltar...where else do you want to go? The drifting of continents is not necessary, Pangaea is fiction.
@@eusuntaici You could do with brushing up on your geology before making such a bold statement. Plate techtonics is a fact, as is Pangea, Laurasia and Gondwanaland.
@@roydodds3693 "Long ago and far away...", that's how all fairy tales begin. You do realize, I hope, that The South American Plate and The African Plate meet...in the middle of the Atlantic! How is then the shape of their shorelines relevant for their "common origin"?...Bro, you must be a real believer in order to swallow this nonsense, and I have a deep respect for real believers, until they start equating their belief with science.
Thank you
How does ethnicity correlate to climate according to your research?
He didn't do any research on that, it's an unfounded claim, and very unfortunate that it's mixed in with the other stuff.
I think he's wrong on the 1,000 people at the time of the tower of babel. There's several generations all still alive at that time. And each family could have 10 children or more during each generation. I'm thinking they had plenty of children and many more years to have them since they had lifespans of 200-600 years old.
How were they even building the Tower of Babel with only 1,000 person population? Seems small. Probably 10,000-100,000 or more people would be more accurate. With the time and resources to have large families the population could easily exploded within just a few generations.
You should do a complete episode on how to convert the worldly science dates into real Biblical dates!😁
The Younger Dryas had 2 flood events starting at 12972 ± 250 yrs ago and a second event 1000 years later. This date is confirmed in the archeological record and the Göbekli Tepe to star asterisms we find compelling evidence that the famous 'Vulture Stone' is a date stamp for 10950 BC ± 250 yrs, which corresponds closely to the proposed Younger Dryas event, estimated at 10890 BC.M
How do you know what happened that long ago? Just believing what someone said? Believe in God.
I dont' question a young earth.
I'm certainly no expert, but it seems his math (using 2550BC) fails to take into account the time & huge population base it would take to manually organize, create the system, find and collect necessary resources (without modern machines) to build the numerous great structures of Egypt, while the rest of the population builds a society that can afford to care for daily life.
Do the math again. How many children could people have if they lived 7-8x longer? And how much wiser is an able bodied person who is 250 years old? You could have mastered every skill.
Can a study for mitochondria be done like this?
Or is there a way to find the male Y if there are no males alive to get it from?
I have tried to find out the same. I would hate to resort to digging up one of my uncles...or grandpa! If you have been working on your Family Tree, maybe you could get a cousin or two further back to test. Like someone descended not just from Grandpa, but Great-Grandpa, or Gr Gr Grandpa! Prior to the approx. 1920's, much of American families had roughly 10-12 kids...if they lived on a farm, and the kids didn't die young that is. ~ ~ As far as Mitochondrial tests, there isn't a way to check what haplogroup, since it is the male chromosome they use. But they may be working on something similar?
With new discoveries of corrected ancient Egyptology, the more-correct date of the Exodus, giving the date of Moses at age 80, ... we find 1207/1206 BCE as the Exodus under the Pharaoh Horemheb "A" (firstborn son Horemheb "B" who died young). Moses would be born 1287/1286 BCE, and he would be adopted and raised by Amenhotep III, father of Amenhotep (Anhkenaton) ... the first 2 monotheists coming from the Nile Delta region. It is historically proved that both the Tuthmoses/Amenhoteps and the Ramessides were close cousins, descended from a common male patriarch Khaemwaset. The takeback of the Nile Delta from the Sea Peoples, Habiru, and Hyksos happened in 1295, 1292 BCE. This fits in with Moses being born during the enslavement and forcing the Israelites into minimum wage jobs as construction, brick making, etc.
From this information of 40 years (1207/1206 - 1167/1166 BCE) in the Wilderness of Zin (Petra of Jordan and northern Midyan area of Saudi Arabia), it is Joshua who crosses the river Jordan and establishes the Commonwealth of the Israelite tribes in Canaan and those who remained in the Jordan area. This is the end of the said 400 years (1167/1166 BCE) of the God-given prophecy to Abraham (at age 100) that his descendants would be an independent nation, living under other national leaders and peoples. This prophecy then happened at 1567/1566 BCE). Abraham would be born 100 years earlier in 1667/1666 BCE.
All the rest of the patriarchal ages can be read and added into the list. It is then that the age of Noah and his 3 sons at the time of the Great Flood happened in ~1987 BCE.
All Noahic descendants would then be recorded from 1987 BCE onwards. It is also the division of the Noahics by the Elohim and dispersing them across the planet after Nimrod and his Tower of Babel construction that happens in the 1800s BCE range. With further discoveries of these many national pantheons of their "gods" - we can find that those god-leaders were the very Noahic descendants put into those areas ... and became the elites of any such survivors of the Flood in those areas - and the new dynastic elite populations in those areas. With no restraints, with a cleansed landscape, the amount of breeding, inter-breeding, and having large families, the whole planet could have undergone a massive baby boom explosion (~1987 - 1600s BCE).
great information. It would be great to hear how much more you know now 2 years later. If you are looking for volunteers for the Y chromosome DNA research, I would love to help. Let me know
Thinking about the flood happening and potential links to the creation of the great Artesian Basin. Then approaching the population of early Australia. interestingly a national geographic story by Sir David told about the Great Barrier Reef water moving the people higher as the waters moved in. Tradition only placed this about 1500 years ago according to the aboriginal stories (he was trying to help the climate change agenda, so didn't challenge the time line but happen to expose an ancient tribal story). I would like to look into this.
Next, do one on the confounding of languages.... and if the Japanese are related to East Asians then why is their language Turkic? And where did Bushmen (San and others) get their click-speak? And why do Pacific Islanders use mostly vowels? From God? Please explain, because languages are very interesting. And did all this dispersion end when (in the days of Peleg) the continents were divided?
Why so few viewers? Any updates in three years? Why isn’t this bigger news?
Because they are critical thinkers, maybe?
So basically central asia, middle east and Asia is where it all starts and spreads from? Like bible pretty much says. Not africa even though it has an important role it's middle east and Asia like bible refers too numerously seems like. Also ham isn't as black as some thought he was very interesting. Like they say we all connected
A link to peer reviewed journal articles on these claims would be appreciated..
Are you familiar with the Crisis in reproduction and grievance studies? Peer review is overrated; Academics ask a few friends to look it over who rubber stamp it and it gets published. More than half of our 'science' cannot be reproduced.
I thought King Tut was R1B2, the same as a large portion of British persons. How does that factor into this history you’re proposing?
Please do the research! Your dates are based on the Masoretic text that dates to the 10th century after Christ. The early church and the New Testament line up well with the Septuagint text of the Old Testament that is over 1200 years older than the corrupted Masoretic text of the old testament.
We are just one big family of Noah spread all over the face of the earth.
Surly, there must have been a lot more mistakes early on because of unions with brother' sisters' neice,nephew's, uncles, aunts, cousins.
your numbers regarding the growth of civilization makes sense, but insert Abraham more around 2000-1800 BCE -not 2200
Such an interesting video. The biggest question I have is how did the "Q" people get to the Americas between 500 and 1000 AD and how do we know they wiped out the peoples that were there before?
That's my question too!!! Maybe it's buried somewhere in another episode?
It is buried in another episode.
A lot of this info escapes me on the detail-level, but I think I remember the overall idea of how the americas began to get people.
There were a couple of influxes of people to the americas. The oldest civilization was the Olmecs down in South America. (I think south) They are the people who carved the big head statues. BIG heads. Ha. I believe Dr Jeanson hypothesized that they came over from Papua New Guinea and some of the other islands. That would make them a mixture of African and Asian. (Those islands today actually have very Asian looking native peoples and very African looking peoples on separate islands that are close together.
What I found fascinating is that when I did a Google search on the olmecs there is a majorly contentious debate going on. There are some who feel the olmecs were only from africa peoples. And that they were displaced by the next group…what we would call Indians or natives.
Or who are there now.
The reason this is controversial is this would mean….the “Indians” as we used to call them….were the evil invaders before the evil white man. Ha!
I look at the statues and see Asian and African and of course there are indigenous peoples there who could have been the exact model for these bid head statues.
I find this all so fascinating. I am currently reading 1491 and have just ordered Jeanson’s book.
Let God Be True!
The very simple and correct answer is that it did not happen according to what Jaesson is fantasying about.
Nothing in reality support his assumptions or his model.
I'm one of those Q people. Very interesting to hear how and when we moved into America. One thing I know is that my people never built any pyramids or stone temples through out our recent history. I guess it would make sense that the Q people (my people) wiped out whoever first made the pyramids and stone temples.
Where did the group C originate from that spread around 500 BCE?
The haplogroups H and J are, in most likelihood, from Joktan, one of the descendants of Shem.
I respect your work but there is a MASSIVE gap in the Haplogroups, most (indigenous) Europeans from Spain, for example, take off from the paternal R1b lineage. As it is a EUROPEAN haplogroup, not a Mongolian as you claimed in the video.
Your source for the 2400bc flood is in error. It comes from mathematic inferior Masoret texts. The worldwide floods are at 4502bce (Septuaginta). With this math in mind the missing times erased from histories will come to light. The missing 783 years of BC times. Makes a big difference.
Mt Ararat is in Turkey. Why would you start in Syria or Iraq? It may seem like a small detail, but the bible clearly states that the ark came to rest in the mountains of Ararat. Accuracy it important.
I'm most of the way through the video. But I want to ask this before I forget. Most human fossils would be people who lived before the flood, and not likely to have been in Noah's lineage. If their DNA is accessible, and further if it is not too degraded, could it not be useful in tracing all the way back to Adam?
Are there human fossils? If there are, there are probably not that many.
Generally speaking, creatures that were the most able to flee the calamities were the least buried by them. Human fossils are far more rare than most others. But they do exist.
When and where did the Aboriginal of Australia arrive and who were the people they displaced? The aborigines say they have been in Australia for (40 to 60 thousand years) but as the earth is not that old when did they arrive and from where?
Go take a look at the other parts of the series I remember hearing him talk about it.
Part 16
Umm Earth is a few billion years old. Please tell me yo don't think Earth is only 3000 years old
@@forgivenintheblood I think the big problem is the 2 groups don't have good answers either way apnd so each one picks their camp because they're never willing to co-mingle their theories.
@@forgivenintheblood no. More like 6,300 years old. Why do you ask?
Lunacy
Nathaniel, I have question. Is it right to think of the these letters or points of division as people seperating or as an individual father and his son's? It seems to me any point the we have a linage combine, that is an individual, and if I am right, then that man may or may not have been part of a dominant power at the time, but is more just a successful raiser of successful sons... So if this is the case, then it is more a case of looking for individuals that fit the pattern. I must get your book...
Babel 2400 BC 1000 people "just a guess" you say. So my "guess" is 500 or less were males. 300 possibly of an age to construct a huge structure. All this time devoted to labor to create this tower while still having time to make their own houses, farm, hunt and live? Not likely. And where the ruins? There are Ziggurats from that area that still exist. Are those the tower? And what about the pyramids? The pyramids are larger and the Egyptians left records of the amount of workers needed to make them. The number is now believed to 20,000. Thats 20 times more than the total population number you are "guessing" at. The great pyramid is also taller than any ziggurat so why are they still around and not destroyed?
If you read the Bible ..Genesis 11 v 3, And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for mortar. KJV.
This was a brick built tower. Brick buildings have a finite life in the middle east and crumble away to form mounds of successive dwellings called tels.
If one is looking for a tower of Babel then one is looking for a pile of earth or sand.
The definitive evidence for the tower of Babel is Genesis chapter 3. Hebrews 11 tells us we believe the account of origin (made of things that do not appear) is to be received by faith.
It is impressive on reviewing bible history that virtually nothing is visible in the archaeology...it is all received by faith.
@@iaincumming982 There is quite a bit of evidence if you care to look regarding the location of the tower of Babel. Look of the town of Uruk.
Right after babal there were so many people we had to get away from each other. Many people bursting at the seams
Commentator said there was only 1000 people at time of babble, probably not enough to actually build the place
@@sadtranz4451 Why is 1000 not enough to build the place? You seem to be starting off with the evolutionary premise that "people used to be smaller, weaker and dumber in the past", which is contradicted both by the biblical narrative and by the archaeological discoveries of their tools and weapons (most of which modern men could hardly lift, let alone handle). We're getting dumber and weaker like any copy of a copy of a copy... it's expected. Which means people used to be really strong and incredibly smart in the past. And they didn't have building codes and regulations ;)
@@eusuntaici 1000 people half Women =500 take it they had children at least 150 =grand total 350 very strong men to build a skyscraper don't think so
That picture behind him with the Girl hanging onto her white scarf is too distracting.
Didn’t Eve have the same DNA make up as Adam since she was created from his rib?
Yeah, must have.
In fact Eve must have been a clone.
First gay marriage 😳.... guess they adopted their kids.
Eve could not have the same DNA as Adam. Someone here said "Human DNA is DNA." No. There are XX chromosomes which women have and XY which men have. Eve could not be a clone of Adam. Plus, there is a certain minimum viable population of virtually all plants and animals (as well as other creatures such as fungi, protista, archaea and bacteria). If the population drops below that, then one of two things happens: inbreeding depression or insufficient diversity to cope with environmental stresses. Regarding inbreeding, closely related populations will increase the number of genetic problems because these are not bred out. Regarding insufficient diversity: when confronted by environmental extremes such as heat, drought, cold, and resistance to disease, there is not enough diversity for the group to acquire characteristics to cope with those things and so those environmental challenges kill them off. Research shows that the minimum viable population needed to avoid extinction is about 2,500 people. Having just eight closely related individuals is a recipe for the population to die out in less than 50 years.
@@donlimoncelli6108 It was just a thought I had that I wanted clarified. I knew however that God was in control of the process of creating Eve. It still seems in my human thinking that both Eve and Adam may have looked like fraternal twins.
@@pjh3066 But the thing is, if someone was created from another person's body, i.e., a rib, their genetic makeup would be the same as the donated rib. A person's full DNA is contained in all of their cells except the egg and sperm. That's the reason police can determine who committed a crime when they gather DNA. It can be from the person's saliva, blood, skin, or their hair as long as the root ball is intact. It doesn't matter. A full complement of their DNA is in each cell. A rib from Adam would be made up of Adam's DNA.
The story was written by someone who was not aware of this and had no idea such a thing as DNA even existed. To them, a rib bone could be made into another human being. I wonder why the writer of Genesis didn't just say that Eve was created from the dust of the Earth and had life breathed into it.
Are we assuming the author of DNA had to confined to the rules of it that we understand, with our very limited understanding of it?
I’m now we’ll past the halfway mark and the population numbers make no sense at all! He really needs to explain the growth rate, because it is not believable, or compatible with known events in history. And child survival rates were terrible. And life expectancy short.
“Oh great, Ken Ham is watching me, I have to sound convincing when spewing out this nonsense”. No wonder this guy looked so nervous.
The pyramids were started in 2600 bce. The great pyramid of Giza was built about the same time as the flood, and construction on other pyramids continued right afterwards.
The Sumarians, Egyptings, and others had writing before the flood. Why didn’t they write about it? It must have made the news?
How do the Australopithecus, Denisovan, Neandertal, Homo Erectus, and others fit in?
The bible's account of the world population is PERFECT! I ran the calculations through AI and it arrived at 6 million people after 300 years since the flood. This was assuming that nobody died in a miscarriage of early deaths. But since infant mortality was common in the ancient world, and wars were present, the world population would've been around 4 million. If you look up the world population in 2000 BC, it says it was 4 million. The calculation is below:
To calculate the population 300 years after the initial 3 men and 3 women under the given conditions, we will extend our calculations to include additional generations.
Assumptions Recap
Initial Population: 3 men and 3 women.
Lifespan: Each person lives to 80 years.
Childbearing Age: Women start having children at 16 and stop at 35.
Birth Rate: Each woman has 1 child every 2 years from age 16 to 35.
Generational Span: A new generation starts every 20 years (approximate).
Childbearing Period
Start age: 16 years.
End age: 35 years.
Duration: 35 - 16 = 19 years.
Number of children per woman: 19 years / 2 years per child = 9.5 (rounded down to 9 children per woman).
Generational Cycles
We will calculate the population growth over 300 years.
Initial Population: Year 0
3 men and 3 women.
Generation 1: Years 0 - 35
Each of the 3 women has 9 children over 19 years.
Total children: 3 women * 9 children = 27 children.
Total population at the end of 35 years: 6 (initial) + 27 = 33 people.
Generation 2: Years 35 - 70
Assume half of the 27 children are female: 13.5, rounded to 14 females.
Each of these 14 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 14 women * 9 children = 126 children.
Total population at the end of 70 years: 33 (previous) + 126 = 159 people.
Generation 3: Years 70 - 105
Assume half of the 126 children are female: 63 females.
Each of these 63 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 63 women * 9 children = 567 children.
Total population at the end of 105 years: 159 (previous) + 567 = 726 people.
Generation 4: Years 105 - 140
Assume half of the 567 children are female: 283.5, rounded to 283 females.
Each of these 283 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 283 women * 9 children = 2,547 children.
Total population at the end of 140 years: 726 (previous) + 2,547 = 3,273 people.
Generation 5: Years 140 - 175
Assume half of the 2,547 children are female: 1,273.5, rounded to 1,273 females.
Each of these 1,273 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 1,273 women * 9 children = 11,457 children.
Total population at the end of 175 years: 3,273 (previous) + 11,457 = 14,730 people.
Generation 6: Years 175 - 210
Assume half of the 11,457 children are female: 5,728.5, rounded to 5,729 females.
Each of these 5,729 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 5,729 women * 9 children = 51,561 children.
Total population at the end of 210 years: 14,730 (previous) + 51,561 = 66,291 people.
Generation 7: Years 210 - 245
Assume half of the 51,561 children are female: 25,780.5, rounded to 25,781 females.
Each of these 25,781 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 25,781 women * 9 children = 232,029 children.
Total population at the end of 245 years: 66,291 (previous) + 232,029 = 298,320 people.
Generation 8: Years 245 - 280
Assume half of the 232,029 children are female: 116,014.5, rounded to 116,014 females.
Each of these 116,014 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 116,014 women * 9 children = 1,044,126 children.
Total population at the end of 280 years: 298,320 (previous) + 1,044,126 = 1,342,446 people.
Generation 9: Years 280 - 300
Assume half of the 1,044,126 children are female: 522,063 females.
Each of these 522,063 women has 9 children.
Total children in this generation: 522,063 women * 9 children = 4,698,567 children.
Total population at the end of 300 years: 1,342,446 (previous) + 4,698,567 = 6,041,013 people.
Conclusion
After 300 years from the initial 3 men and 3 women, the population would be approximately 6,041,013 people under the given assumptions. This includes multiple overlapping generations of offspring.
Is it possible to compose a tune for your church because I have always believed the earth is 6000 years old.I play the piano and my compositions come from God and my life has planed out very similar to Nesus
When was the world continents ONE continent?
Pre flood
Sargon of Akkad reigned around 2300 BC. 1000 people, really? One thing that Jeanson is leaving out is the high mortality rate up to last 100 years. The average lifespan up to the. Late 1800’s was 35 years. He is way off on a lot here.
It grew the regular way; dancing, a few drinks...
Galatians 4:8-9 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9 But now that you know God-- or rather are known by God.... John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. " John 1:12-13 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-- 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. 1 Peter 3:20-22 God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also-- not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22 who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand-- with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.
If a person's DNA comes 1/2 from each parent and so on back in time then after 10 generations we'd have 1/1024th of it from each of 1024 people (minus any duplicate lines) so the Y-chromosome one only comes from 1 in 1024 -the man's dad's dad's dad's..... dad. What about the DNA he'd have from the other 1023 ancestors from 10 generations back? It only traces one line. 20 generations back and we have around a million ancestors (minus duplicate lines) It's an insignificant fraction of the ancestry.
The further back you go the more likely lines are duplicated as people married distant cousins or closer. Just after the flood they only had cousins to marry!
More importantly, my estimate of World population before the flood: over 20 Billions.
I would love to know how you came to this conclusion. Given the problems in the 21st Century of a population a third of this size......can you seriously be serious?
Flood 2550 BC? Chine's history 4500 BC? how is this so?
Schhh, do not let us talk about India and China, there are enough problems with the Egyptian history and their pyramids.
China 4500 BC? Where do you get that from?
Ancient cultures inflate their ancestors and history. And, btw the flood was in 2348bc (Ussher/Newton). Scalinger's date was rather close too.
iaincumming982 wrote
".... And, btw the flood was in 2348bc "
The flood never happen, there are not one single observations where a global flood is the best explanation of what we observe.
Not one single science field support a global flood or a young earth. They all tell a different story.
@@miscamisca6775 I don't know where you got that nonsense, but I cannot help you sort out your delusions and unbelief.
There was a world wide deluge - the evidence is in holy scripture.
Many of the fields of science were set up by believers such as James Clerk Maxwell... Electro dynamics.
Do me a favour, don't come back spouting that verbiage and get a proper education before it is too late for YOU.
@33:02 There may have been A LOT of genetic variation in early people! That would make marrying a sister or a cousin a lot easier. IMHO
Of course, that's why incest was not an issue with early man. However Evolution seems to disregard inbreeding which baffles me as that means there are a lot of very stupid scientists out there.
Explain how you get more variation from fewer people.
You don't get to use evolution either.
@@roscius6204 hahaha...the supernatural my friend is certainly not in the realm of the natural. What's funny is that you cannot see that Evolution is claiming the supernatural and yet it has no legs except in very vivid imaginations. DNA is coding which can only come from an intelligent mind. Evolution is a fairy tale birthed out of unintelligent dull minds.
@@remainhumble6432 By your logic here, supernatural evolution is possible then?
and why would it not be part of the designers tool set.
I love how you guys want to cherry pick the science that suits you and ignore anything that doesn't.
Not how it works.
@@roscius6204 I do expect you to use your brain for this one. Evolution by definition implies that things undergo an 'update' of sorts. That is what is foolish. We are seeing signs of inbreeding in nature not things upgrading. That only makes sense if the original human had incredible genetic variation that is now slowly degrading via natural selection and inbreeding. That implies a supernatural beginning and now a natural consequence which is inbreeding. The ancestor of the camel and the llama had genes for both these creatures. But now the llama has lost the camel genes. Certainly changed but is now weaker and is the product of loss of information not gain. To believe that a bunch of monkeys could somehow grow a voice box and other human traits by inbreeding with one another is frankly absurd.
I guess when you have a pre-determined conclusion going in it takes a considerable amount of mental gymnastics to bend history around to make ends meet. I really tried to watch the whole thing but had to keep rewinding to make sure i was hearing what i thought i was hearing. Im having problems putting together in my mind a couple of things
Y chrome theory- it sounds like your describing whats called "genetic drift" in cloning. It happens when the same dna sequence is continually repeated. Like making a copy and then making a copy from the copy, and so on. The original is gone and the copies fade until unstable. Our dna doesnt diminish, it combines to make a new sequence.
Noahs daughter in laws werent sisters were they?
Timeline and population growth..
3 breeding pairs of humans had how many children in 150 years??
Then after babel down to 1000 in 2400 bc to 17million 500 years later?
Id love to see the stats on that.how many women had how many babies, how old when they started and stopped. How long did they lve. Adjusted for miscarridges, infant mortality. Heck how many never grew old enough to breed?
Then there is the timeline itself.. I must admit, i did not understand how the gragh you displayed worked other than distorting how time works.
Then there is the amount of time itself. And china.
And the americas.
What do i mean?
China has existed as china for 5000 years, at least.
The first peoples in N. America goes back to before the end of the last ice age and in south America the ancestors of the olmecs and maya built cities rivaling modern ones that are turning out to be even older as they are finding that many of the tempes and pyrimids are built on top of even older structures. Some times as many as 3. There were cities with as many as a half of a million people occupying central and south America when Jesus was alive.
In fact there are similar things being discovered all over the planet as our ability to observe the world around us improves.
And the interesting thing is that the more we actually look, the farther back we find evidence of not only man, but civilization.
( see golbeki-tepi in turkey)
As for the flood. I think its pretty interesting that nearly every ancient culture has a great flood story in their histories. The timelines are much much older. Whats interesting about that, is that there is growing evidence that there was a great flood around 10,000 bc when the polar ice sheet melted abruptly.
Of course the indiginous people survived That and it would seem, Every Other flood that might have come after since they are still here.
Wait, what?
It just occured to me that it would be impossible for any other culture to have any other explanation for their history if your interpretation is correct. If you are right then the only tale that would have survived is would be yours because in every other version of the flood story, the entire planet isnt killed off less an ark.
In other words it was really really bad. Civilization back to the stone age bad, but not everyone and everything died. Oh and the sea level rose over 400 feet which would have submerged most of the occupied land where its been ever since.
Maybe your mistranslating something.
There is physical evidence of the earlier cataclysm . look at the channel scablands in n America and the bone yard in alaska.
( i guess i got a little carried away there, sorry.)
So??
Our gens die out at about 70 years old. Their gens lived about 5-6 times longer. So not only 5-6 times larger child bearing window, but generations cohabitated rather than passing away. This is not hard to figure out on a simple notepad. The truth is in Jesus, he’s our only hope, why doubt it? If you have questions, just work it out on a notepad and at the very least see that it is very plausible. Regarding tales not lining up- many of us don’t even know what jobs our own great grandparents did, or what their names were. That doesn’t mean there wasn’t a preserved truth. Making something up when there is a written record is strange and arrogant, and if Gods word is true we have to answer to God for our pride. Sir I know how it feels to doubt, but the Lord Jesus can set you free beyond anything you can imagine, He truly gives a peace that passes understanding, and a hope as an anchor of the soul. Trust Him and don’t draw back. The Bible is indeed just another story. Don’t dismiss it without real rigorous study. ❤ I believe Genesis because of Jesus and His promises, and have not done so blindly.
No F, G, L, and P lineages? I'm guessing that's not an oversight.
I guess it would have clouded the overall impression of the presentation.
What do you mean Scott?
@@joseph_miller When I saw the video several months ago, the F, G, P, and L lineages were not on Dr.Jeanson's family tree. Subsequent videos have filled them in.
@@scottmiller6958
Thank you.
To go from 8 people in 2550 BC to almost 8 billion today is not possible. There simply wasn't enough time. This is because a person can do the math to make the claim it would take place. But the reality is that life in the past was HARD.
There were no Walmarts so one you have to depend on a successful harvest. Due to hard freezes and droughts that harvest (i.e. food) wasn't guaranteed. There was no modern housing or central heating. Winters took their toll. Nor were there modern medical facilities. All these factors meant the fatality rate was quite high, especially the infant mortality rate. A more realistic number is easily 3 to 4 times that length of time to go from 8 to 8 billion people.
Which means the earth can't possibly be only 6,000 years old.
25 years each generation, with many at 15 years to 18, 19 year olds with several children. Families raised crops together
If you take 1 penny and double it everyday for 30 days you will end up with $5,300,000+ . Compounding can be scary once it gets to exponential increases
8:52 FYI "Was Adam the First Human Being?" is now called "PROOF That Adam Was a Literal Person"
2550BC is way too early for the flood.
2550+1656+2020=6176 since creation.
We would be 176 years into the Messiahs Reign.
Its more towards 2400 BC as Noahs Flood.
But generally good work.
Historically Myopic view. Creation started Billions of year earlier. Read Indian Multi-universe theory.
The flood had to be before 10,000 bc, that is when farming began in the highlands of Anatolia, near where the ark landed.
@@philliprude5997 you cant believe everyrhing you see on TV. No culture is older than 6000 Years.
Farming began before the Flood, ie Cain and Abel.
If you believe secular history you will never make sense of it. The Bible is proven right time after time.
If you just read your Bible, you will see a phrase in the eighth century BC, repeated by God to his profits over and over again…” that all the nations of the earth may know….” They knew about Jeremiah buying the field. They knew about the miracles in Egypt. So obviously, people traveled. Very bytes are in his book. Bible lands talks about how Israel was the land bridge between the three major continents of the world, Europe, Africa, and Asia. And Capernaum was on the great trunk Road. They knew about Israel and the God of Israel, all through the world..
Why do people fight so hard to prove young earth and deny that anything happened before 2500 in man? We all worship or believe in a creator, even Big Bang is a theory of creation and made up by a catholic. They all give praise or stature to whatever they believe the creator is. Even an atheist can't deny something created all this, they just don't believe in Gods. There is no definitive evidence of creation in any theory man has come up with. Why is it so hard for people to find similarities in religions and ideas and realize most beliefs are the same as how to act with others and how to live with others and what is good and bad are the same across the board for human behavior for the most part. The whole my creator is better then yours and I'll prove it with theories that have no proof across the board is counter productive to humanity. Until man humbles themselves and can agree that we will never be able to "prove" the theory of creation or why we are here. Until that happens men will argue , fight and go to war. We need to be there for each other not arguing over creation. There is good and bad on the planet most of us are good the bad ones are the rulers taking away our natural human rights that all religions and faiths share. Stop bickering and trying to prove your right humble thy self and focus on the bad/evil on earth and expose it. That is how we better our futures not sitting around waiting for our Creation Theories End. Massive Comet Massive volcano or a pole shift would prove us all wrong very quickly focus on what we can prove to be true and help all humanity not just your own egos and faiths. Our lives on this world could end tomorrow live like it!! Be good to other have faith in whatever you want but stop trying to prove others wrong. Waste of time. My Faith is irrelevant to my point, I have looked for many years to try to prove creation is what I believe it is. But I am humble enough to know that it can never be proven and I'm okay with that. Humbling down makes you see so much more then a narrow view of faith. I get along with everyone I meet and try to spread unity in humanity not my faith. You can prove to other that your faith is good by accepting different views and keeping yours to yourself. Peaceful debates will happen like that instead of arguments and trying to prove anything and that is where you find we are all the same not by forcing theory's on others.
very strange to hear the Japanese have origins in Africa?!
For tens of millions of years in the latest Cretaceous period, sea levels were much higher. The gulf of Mexico extended northward, covering much of the Eastern U.S.
Actually the continents were covered by the global flood.
@@truthisbeautiful7492 Nope, Jimmiewoble is correct - he is referring to the Sundance Sea, an epicontinental sea that existed some 80 - 70 million years ago. Home to some of the most terrifying sea creatures of all time, this sea split the North American continent into 2. The history of the sea is well known thanks to the numerous fossil beds it left behind....absolutely nothing to do with mythical floods.
@@roydodds3693 yes, the numerous fossil beds are evidence of the global flood. Have you read Carved into Stone by Dr. Clarey, who is a geologist who worked for the oil industry? He uses data from 3 continents to explain how the mega sequences fit with the global flood. The great sedimentary layers of sandstone, limestone, shale, the sea fossils, the coal, oil, and gas, all from the global flood. The continents were moving apart rapidly, and sedimentary layers were laid down rapidly, as shown by Mount Saint Helens, and canyons carved rapidly, like in the Mars flood and the Lake Missoula flood. The global flood was a year long, and had different stages at different times. It took time for the sea levels to raise to flood the continents. You are wrongly thinking it took hundreds of millions of years slowly what actually only took one year rapidly.
The global flood isn't mythical. You accept the mega flood on Mars, right? The global flood on Earth was even bigger then that. The current mountains didn't exist before the global flood, but are a result of the global flood. This is all explained in the catastrophic plate tectonics model. The initial creation of the planet, the period after creation, Massive volcanoism and the global flood, followed by the one rapid Ice Age, and the time since the global flood explains what you see. Valleys, volcanos, ice sheets, don't require millions of years. The Lord Jesus Christ rose from the dead and He affirmed the global flood, and the global flood fits with the sedimentary layers and fossils that we see everywhere. There is no reason to call it 'mythical' since it really happened. Rather then slow and gradual, many geologic processes can happen rapidly.
@@truthisbeautiful7492 until someone can explain, without resorting to magic, how dodos survived in Mauritius and koala bears made it back to Australia I cannot except as anything but superstitious nonsense the concept of a flood. One geologist trying to fit the facts into his religious beliefs versus the rest of geology that dismisses this concept for lack of evidence, and much evidence to the contrary, does not make for a convincing argument.
@@roydodds3693
How did life begin on a molten ball of rock?
"It came from somewhere else" is not an answer.
I love how people in the comments are arguing over which fantasy date is correct.
Do unicorns have blue or brown eyes? discuss.....
1000 people in 150 years from 6 adults???
Incest?🤷♂️ also God seems to keep underestimating people
The flood had to happen before 10,000 BC. That is when the first evidence of farming and agriculture arose in the highlands of Anatolia, near where the ark had landed.
I enjoy the information presented in these videos.
However, I think that extreme biblical literalism is clouding your conclusions. Example: your understanding of the word "all" to mean that every human on the entire planet came to Egypt during the famine, or that the famine impacted every area on the planet at the same time, both northern and southern hemispheres, is not an accurate or logical interpretation.
Another example of the word "all":
"And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Ceasar Augustus, that ALL the world should be taxed." (Luke 2:1)
We can't reasonably conclude that every inhabitant of China, Indonesia, Africa, and the Americas journeyed to Rome to be taxed by Augustus. "All" in this context obviously means only the citizens and peoples under Roman dominion, not the entire world.
Even under the influence of divine inspiration, the scriptural authors are still human, using a limited human language, limited human experience and understanding, to write the stories and teachings they are inspired to record. The limited human experience and perspective of the scriptural authors, whether it be Moses (Genesis) or Luke, has to be factored in to the exegesis.
The very title of this podcast is incorrect. We know in the Bible that Abraham lived around 2000 BC. Even in that account, there were Philistines, Egyptians, the kings of the plain, and the allied kings of Elam, Mesopotamia, and Hatti. There were hundreds of thousands of people in that region alone. So far off base they are here.
So only seventy old men and a couple of hundred young men built this humongous tower of babul that threatened the Lord?
Never have we seen a skin color change happen in 4-5 generations (approximately 100 years) of a homogeneous ethnic group/population.
Can you mention any city in the world where the skin color or any other ethnic traits changed during 100 years without people moving in or out?
(When you discuss the significance of the Y chromosome you fail to mention the same significance of the mitochondrial DNA.)
How to fit the ice age into your timeline?
And how to fit the continental drift, the ongoing movement of the continental plates, we know how slow they moves.
14:47 No, people didn’t live longer back then (2300bc), we know at what age people died by looking at skeletons we find, and never have people lived longer than we do today, based on the skeletons we have available.
37:45 You ask why the population in one continent couldn’t have a notable ethnic change due to influence from other continents 1000bc, after saying the ethnic variation still hadn’t become significant. There is something I missed here.
38:35 I assume the Y chromosome distribution he is referring to is scientifically known and accepted, but his timeline is not scientifically based, it is a made up timeline to fit the story in the bible.
And even he knows his claims is already proven wrong he still share it so Christians can believe the conflict between science and the Bible is due to amateur scientists. Truth is he is an amateur himself, well aware he is lying. I see it too often when Christians debunk science, “too often” as in every time.
There are so many scientists in so many fields sharing their findings and adjusting the timeline of the human history, debunking the young earth theory, and moving the events in the human history backwards to an earlier period.
The proof against young earth is so abundant and so clear that the discussion about the age of the earth and the timeline of humans is not really happening, don’t be fooled by the video to think their claims are serious and could possible be true.
it's hard to say how many people were in the world because they were polygamous population growth would be quicker
How many more years scientists are gonna take to read Indus valley dravidian script ?!