I learned more watching this video than I have learned watching 30 other videos. Thanks! You have some serious talent. And keep your sense of humor! Joe D
Just purchased a 250mm Sky-Watcher F4 Newtonian and of course it rained for 40 days and 40 nights.(Big and Heavy) First Light was on NGC5128. Centaurus A and I processed it using this PI method of yours. Excellent! Only wish I could remember what I did without watching the hole thing again. Enjoyed watching it and again always Entertaining and never boring. Thank you.
Wow, this is a perfect tutorial for LRGB imaging! I love keeping the image as natural as possible, but have always struggled with that. This really helps, thank you!
I must say, you are really good at this, teaching and presentation style. You get right to it, no theory, explantions, just show us what works. I love this.
Once again, Your video has helped me bigtime. I found the solution to the problem I was having with EZ Decon and Starnet. I had to edit the script to refer to Starnet2 on line 240 in the EZ Common script. After that, it works perfectly. Thanks again. JD
Steve, this is one of the best ways I have seen so far for processing galaxy targets, especially color and background control. Great delivery on your videos BTW. I'm definitely a fan.
My knowledge of PI just increased by a factor of 10. Thanks man, I use all your steps in this video along with drizzling and CFA when stacking my OSC ASI6200MC images. I'm seeing spectacular results now. I need to go back and redo every image I ever processed. Starting today! Thank again and clear skies my friend.
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I like the way you show the different techniques. This has brought me a big step forward in my image processing technique. Keep up the good work!
Come on man.... When does the learning stop? So enter into galaxy season. I hit up M101 for several nights in LRGB. I sat and looked at all the images and asked myself "What would Steve do?" lol. So I searched and here you are, flexing all your PixInsight knowledge. I have run several other process flows though this set of images and I have to say, the results speak for themselves. Your workflow, once again was Da'Bomb.
Really effective, and the technique to gently push the colors using the luminance extracted from the image is awesome! Thank you for this video ! The point where I get not much good results is when trying this technique on M31, taken with 480mm on 4/3'' sensor and containing lot of stars, and removing stars, I get a many artifacts around the "holes" left by removed stars (I used Starnet2 with 128 or 256 tile size), and they stay of course after putting back stars on the processed starless image, even if not too much visible I wonder how much they will be annoying in a final 40cm print... Anyhow, this tutorial is awesome !
Hey thanks so much! I'm using star exterminator, and I pull the stars very early in the stretching process. I find this does a better job removing more of the star signal. Plaus it keeps the stars smaller.
Going to try this on my latest M31 project, I assume it’ll still look good using a Red channel that has Ha added. I like the idea of drawing the ‘natural’ colours out of the target, instead of using curve transformation.
Brilliant! Revolutionary technique, for me anyway. I love the process for improving the core, bringing out the detail. I swore out loud when you added the core improved luminance back in :-))) I shot 9 hours of RGBHSO last week on Andromeda, so will use this tutorial to process it. Thanks for your tutorials! Do they do Oscars for You Tube Videos? You get my vote.
I have been using "ArcsinhStretch" tool to pull out color in an image using the combination with the ScreenTransferTool and then applying with the Histrogram tool. But I think this method works for me resulting with a better color result. It flows better for me.....nice video! Thank you!
@@enteringintospace4685 Indeed I did. Your method is more incremental and has more control. Reprocessing some of my galaxies and I am pleased with the results. And all done without using Curves! Although Curves was useful to tone down the stars as you did in your video. I am wondering how this technique would work with Nebula. I would think it may be doable.
@@enteringintospace4685 I immediately applied your coloring technique on an old M101 image of mine and the new version looks so much better, thanks a lot!
Hey Steve, I really enjoy your teaching, the humor you have in your instructions. I am curious coz I definitely need improvement & order in my image processing, so do you have any written (step by step) processing with regard to nebulae, galaxies etc? If so, how much would you want for them coz I’d gladly pay you for your instructions in writing. Let me know. Thanks & Clear Skies Brother…
Brilliant brilliant tutorial mate. I love your no nonsense yet also chilled and informal style. I'm getting a bit lost at the stretch using the LRGB tool. It's either I'm not paying proper attention or my data is rubbish (also M81, 1600mm, HaLRGB). Any chance of making your subs or stacked frames available? It would be wicked if I could follow your tutorial with known good data (Y) Thanks again and keep up the good work
Thanks! I need to get a more robust cloud storage service so I can upload data in the description. If you want to contact me via email, I'll email back the stacks. s1308pc@hotmail.com
Thanks much for this video. I’m rather new to Pixinsight (well, really new!)….I’m trying to follow along wondering if I’ll ever be able to embrace all the minutia of Pixinsight (your grasp of this amazes me Currently I’m only doing one shot color imaging. Can you recommend a process similar to LRGBCombination for bringing out natural color with a one-shot color camera?
Awesome! Yeah mask stretch does a great job stretching your rgb and preserving colors, I have a video on that. Also a simple lum mask and saturation and C component boost in curves transform works well too
Oh I was having a blast with your video while I do the same to my pic of same object until EZ Decon Failed on me, but the first EZ Soft Stretch worked fine, so I'm stuck here!
Many thanks for the excellent video that I am watching for the 3rd time. I am a newie with pixinsight and your videos are soooo helpful. Pls can I ask 1 question: I have an OSC camera and from WBPP I have until now 1 image file output, I guess you call this an RGBfile (I know that I could get separate RGB files but until now I have not done it). My question is: do you think your technique here would work if I extracted the luminance from my image file and thereafter proeeded as you have done (from your point where you combined R+G+B, so I have basically same files as you from that point)? Many thanks!
@@enteringintospace4685 WV Astrophotography is my channel, not much on there yet but I hope to help people like you do in the near future. Your videos have helped me tremendously!
@@enteringintospace4685 I guarantee it, I only have a few unedited videos and that was a task lol I'm sure the videos you do take sooooome time, but from those watching they really do help bud.
@@enteringintospace4685 My data wasn't as good as yours, but at least i managed to to turn it into some resemblance of a galaxy with the help of your video, so many thanks for taking the time & effort to share, it's much appreciated. Anyway this was my end result :- content.invisioncic.com/r307508/monthly_2021_11/M81_LRGB.jpg.5279b3855f21ec589f0eae003de20208.jpg
Thanks for the video, it is showing some good tricks. I have however 2 questions: 1-Why would bringing out the colors using curves transformation be "not the way to do it" versus the way you did it with the LRGB combination tool? And why are you applying deconvolution to the color image before your use it later on? Maybe you can explain. Thanks for your time.
Sorry for the late response....notifications aren't reliable. Use lrgb combination to bring up the color produces a better natural base instead of curves to me. As far as decon I used it on the luminance data before apply to the color. The sharpening technique obviously comes in once all the data is combined.
Very similar to my workflow up until a few months ago (although I did much more attenuated noise reduction in multiple steps in linear and non-linear). Since I got my hands on Ross' XTerminators, my workflow is about 1/10 the time. Integration -> R,G,B registration to integrated L -> combine RGB channels -> DBE -> SPCC -> BlurXTerminator -> first NoiseXTerminator pass with medium reduction -> HTs -> Combine L with RGB -> Curves / Saturation -> and if needed StarXTerminator and remove artifacts left over from integration. Additionally, with Ross' tools, the quality actually increased although my workflow is MUCH faster now. Those tools aren't cheap, but MAN are they mighty. And even though they are AI based, the AI doesn't invent any new details, just accentuates existing ones.
Great videos !! Can you quickly describe the calibration and integration of the L,R,G,B files ? Did you use the individual processes or the WeightedBatchPreprocessing Script ? Just curious - what camera are you using ? thanks, Monty
Thanks Monty!! Everything was integrated and stacked using the wbpp script with all setting on auto. Bias were .5sec along with darks and flats. I'm using the asi1600mm pro.
Thank you for your tutorials, they are very instructional, although if I want to ask some questions or send you a file which is the best to do it? Do you have a web page? Thank you again!
Hey Steve, thanks for the great and detailed guide about processing M81! I came across a problem while following the tutorial though; while applying the luminance to bring out the color, it only would allow me to do it once. I tried dragging the luminance a couple of times like you done on 15:00 , but it would not add any more saturation to the image after the first drag. Is there a fix for this?
@@enteringintospace4685 Rebooting worked! The image became more saturated the amount of times I dragged the triangle. Now, the galaxies are yellow, but I think that can be fixed in photoshop. Thanks for the help
Would you please make a short tutorial on how to preserve dust lanes or dark nebula which are outside the main nebula….which may be related how to further add to or refine a lum mask?😊❤️
I'm working on M81 & M82 right now and using your techniques I'm getting some good results. Then I remembered I had a bunch of Ha data I could use as well. I combined the Ha data with the red channel following the Light Vortex tutorial and now I can't get the LRGB technique to boost colors, except for red. Any ideas on why that might be?
Hey sorry for the late response, TH-cam notifications stink. That's a mystery to me unless for some reason a mask was still engaged. Were you able to figure it out?
@@enteringintospace4685 Better late than never! :) I didn't figure it out, but my data sets were such a mess that I gave up on it. I'll start a new set another time. Currently reworking some Iris Nebula data I took last year.
Ok, I really hate your channel and this video in particular because now I feel like I have to go back and reprocess all of my images!! LOL But seriously, great channel - I'm learning a ton from you!
I learned more watching this video than I have learned watching 30 other videos. Thanks!
You have some serious talent.
And keep your sense of humor!
Joe D
Thanks so much! Glad I could help👊
Just purchased a 250mm Sky-Watcher F4 Newtonian and of course it rained for 40 days and 40 nights.(Big and Heavy) First Light was on NGC5128. Centaurus A and I processed it using this PI method of yours. Excellent! Only wish I could remember what I did without watching the hole thing again. Enjoyed watching it and again always Entertaining and never boring. Thank you.
Hey Barry! That's great to hear and that's a great scope too! Good luck man...
I have been doing PI for 4 years now, and this just was a gamechanger.
Wow, this is a perfect tutorial for LRGB imaging! I love keeping the image as natural as possible, but have always struggled with that. This really helps, thank you!
Awesome! Thanks for the positive feedback.
I must say, you are really good at this, teaching and presentation style. You get right to it, no theory, explantions, just show us what works. I love this.
Ahh, that's music to my ears and exactly why I started this channel! Get to the bloody point😊. Thanks!
Once again, Your video has helped me bigtime.
I found the solution to the problem I was having with EZ Decon and Starnet. I had to edit the script to refer to Starnet2 on line 240 in the EZ Common script. After that, it works perfectly.
Thanks again.
JD
Steve, this is one of the best ways I have seen so far for processing galaxy targets, especially color and background control. Great delivery on your videos BTW. I'm definitely a fan.
Appreciate that!! With photoshop I really didn't care for shooting galaxies but with Pixinsight I can't wait to shoot more!
This - is - incredible! So many thanks!
Thanks!
My knowledge of PI just increased by a factor of 10. Thanks man, I use all your steps in this video along with drizzling and CFA when stacking my OSC ASI6200MC images. I'm seeing spectacular results now. I need to go back and redo every image I ever processed. Starting today! Thank again and clear skies my friend.
Hey! That's a great feeling...thanks for letting me know and good luck!
Fantastic tutorial! Thanks so much for this. Also you may have just sold me on getting an RC8!
Best run-through of processing LRGB from masters that I've seen!
Thanks so much!!
Awesome stuff Steve. Thank you
Thanks Ralph!
Awesome workflow! followed it trough on my M81, best ive done! Brilliant, thanks for this, just what I needed! Clear Skies!
That's great to hear!! Thanks for letting me know😊
Watching your videos and following you on my image of M81 is fun.... thanks duded.
Very cool! Let me know hoe your image turns out!
Entertaining and very enlightening. Thanks.
I love it ! Thanks man , greetings from Brazil
Hey!! Thanks for reaching out!
Very well presented tutorial! CS
Thanks Tully!
Thank you for this excellent tutorial. I like the way you show the different techniques. This has brought me a big step forward in my image processing technique. Keep up the good work!
Hey thats awesome to hear! I appreciate the positive feedback...definitely more on the way!
Come on man.... When does the learning stop? So enter into galaxy season. I hit up M101 for several nights in LRGB. I sat and looked at all the images and asked myself "What would Steve do?" lol. So I searched and here you are, flexing all your PixInsight knowledge. I have run several other process flows though this set of images and I have to say, the results speak for themselves. Your workflow, once again was Da'Bomb.
Wow!!! Thats awesome man!! Ive got more coming, just need to turn off the procrastination button🤣
Thanks!!
Wooooo! Just got home and this is waiting?! Yes! been waiting for this one since you mentioned it on FB last week..
Ha! Cool...im digging the new techniques 😊
Neat trick with the saturation Steven, thanks for sharing that!
Definitely is....thanks for watching!
Thanks, Steve, copied that workflow on one of my galaxy images NGC55 and certainly more detail. be using it in the future, again thank you.
Great to hear! Thanks for the feedback.
Really effective, and the technique to gently push the colors using the luminance extracted from the image is awesome! Thank you for this video !
The point where I get not much good results is when trying this technique on M31, taken with 480mm on 4/3'' sensor and containing lot of stars, and removing stars, I get a many artifacts around the "holes" left by removed stars (I used Starnet2 with 128 or 256 tile size), and they stay of course after putting back stars on the processed starless image, even if not too much visible I wonder how much they will be annoying in a final 40cm print...
Anyhow, this tutorial is awesome !
Hey thanks so much! I'm using star exterminator, and I pull the stars very early in the stretching process.
I find this does a better job removing more of the star signal. Plaus it keeps the stars smaller.
Ooh Ooh Steven, again a great tutorial I love it, let's keep them coming !!!!
Will do! I'm taking suggestions 😊 Thanks!
I really enjoyed this, right off the bat 🦇
Thanks!!
Going to try this on my latest M31 project, I assume it’ll still look good using a Red channel that has Ha added. I like the idea of drawing the ‘natural’ colours out of the target, instead of using curve transformation.
Best way for galaxies for sure. thanks for this one.
Thanks Dwight!
Brilliant! Revolutionary technique, for me anyway. I love the process for improving the core, bringing out the detail. I swore out loud when you added the core improved luminance back in :-))) I shot 9 hours of RGBHSO last week on Andromeda, so will use this tutorial to process it. Thanks for your tutorials! Do they do Oscars for You Tube Videos? You get my vote.
Enthusiasm with cursing......I love it!!
I tend to do the same. Thanks for the positive feedback. Cheers!
I have been using "ArcsinhStretch" tool to pull out color in an image using the combination with the ScreenTransferTool and then applying with the Histrogram tool. But I think this method works for me resulting with a better color result. It flows better for me.....nice video! Thank you!
Great to hear! I've used ARC before as well and boy does it bring out the color but is also really messes up my stars. Did you experience that?
@@enteringintospace4685 Indeed I did. Your method is more incremental and has more control. Reprocessing some of my galaxies and I am pleased with the results. And all done without using Curves! Although Curves was useful to tone down the stars as you did in your video. I am wondering how this technique would work with Nebula. I would think it may be doable.
Well done Steven! I’m gonna remember this tutorial!
Good deal!! Thanks for watching.
@@enteringintospace4685 I immediately applied your coloring technique on an old M101 image of mine and the new version looks so much better, thanks a lot!
@@douweodh4146 hey!! Thats awesome!
I love this techniques! Congrats for the video, its very useful
Hey Steve, I really enjoy your teaching, the humor you have in your instructions. I am curious coz I definitely need improvement & order in my image processing, so do you have any written (step by step) processing with regard to nebulae, galaxies etc? If so, how much would you want for them coz I’d gladly pay you for your instructions in writing. Let me know. Thanks & Clear Skies Brother…
Brilliant brilliant tutorial mate. I love your no nonsense yet also chilled and informal style. I'm getting a bit lost at the stretch using the LRGB tool. It's either I'm not paying proper attention or my data is rubbish (also M81, 1600mm, HaLRGB). Any chance of making your subs or stacked frames available? It would be wicked if I could follow your tutorial with known good data (Y) Thanks again and keep up the good work
Thanks! I need to get a more robust cloud storage service so I can upload data in the description. If you want to contact me via email, I'll email back the stacks.
s1308pc@hotmail.com
Thanks much for this video. I’m rather new to Pixinsight (well, really new!)….I’m trying to follow along wondering if I’ll ever be able to embrace all the minutia of Pixinsight (your grasp of this amazes me Currently I’m only doing one shot color imaging. Can you recommend a process similar to LRGBCombination for bringing out natural color with a one-shot color camera?
Awesome! Yeah mask stretch does a great job stretching your rgb and preserving colors, I have a video on that. Also a simple lum mask and saturation and C component boost in curves transform works well too
Oh I was having a blast with your video while I do the same to my pic of same object until EZ Decon Failed on me, but the first EZ Soft Stretch worked fine, so I'm stuck here!
That stinks!! The ez suites have only crashed on me once. Nothing to do but start over unfortunately.
thanks for the very good and helpful video. i only can write.. perfect
best regards from austria
Thank you!!
Many thanks for the excellent video that I am watching for the 3rd time. I am a newie with pixinsight and your videos are soooo helpful. Pls can I ask 1 question: I have an OSC camera and from WBPP I have until now 1 image file output, I guess you call this an RGBfile (I know that I could get separate RGB files but until now I have not done it). My question is: do you think your technique here would work if I extracted the luminance from my image file and thereafter proeeded as you have done (from your point where you combined R+G+B, so I have basically same files as you from that point)? Many thanks!
Yes, you can take you osc image and extract the lum and the rgb channels and start essentially where i do.
You are the man, this video was fantastic. Especially for us newcomers. May I share this on my channel?
Thanks and sure thing. What's your channel?
@@enteringintospace4685 WV Astrophotography is my channel, not much on there yet but I hope to help people like you do in the near future. Your videos have helped me tremendously!
@@wvastrophotography655 very cool! It's been a neat experience!
But I think it's harder than AP...lol
@@enteringintospace4685 I guarantee it, I only have a few unedited videos and that was a task lol I'm sure the videos you do take sooooome time, but from those watching they really do help bud.
Great tutorial Video, thanks for making it as it's really helped me sort out my own workflow for LRGB
That's great to hear! Appreciate you letting me know!
@@enteringintospace4685 My data wasn't as good as yours, but at least i managed to to turn it into some resemblance of a galaxy with the help of your video, so many thanks for taking the time & effort to share, it's much appreciated. Anyway this was my end result :-
content.invisioncic.com/r307508/monthly_2021_11/M81_LRGB.jpg.5279b3855f21ec589f0eae003de20208.jpg
@@wafflefreetech7062 hey thats a great image! You even got the Holmberg galaxy to pop out. Very good!!
learned a lot from this, thanks so much
That's so great to hear! Thanks.
Thanks for the video, it is showing some good tricks. I have however 2 questions: 1-Why would bringing out the colors using curves transformation be "not the way to do it" versus the way you did it with the LRGB combination tool? And why are you applying deconvolution to the color image before your use it later on? Maybe you can explain. Thanks for your time.
Sorry for the late response....notifications aren't reliable.
Use lrgb combination to bring up the color produces a better natural base instead of curves to me.
As far as decon I used it on the luminance data before apply to the color.
The sharpening technique obviously comes in once all the data is combined.
Awesome stuff. Thank you.
Thanks!!
Great video! I think after you combine the channels, a lot of this could apply to OSCs as well.
Definitely! Even processing the luminance with the ez suites. Thanks!
@@enteringintospace4685 I love the ez suite! I haven’t had much luck with ez decon, but you showed me a few tricks. Thanks! Great picture too!
Thanks Steve. ! That’s a keeper. Ever have them printed?
Thanks!! As a matter of fact I am.
Need to do a video on the ones I've printed on metal and sold actually.
Very similar to my workflow up until a few months ago (although I did much more attenuated noise reduction in multiple steps in linear and non-linear). Since I got my hands on Ross' XTerminators, my workflow is about 1/10 the time.
Integration -> R,G,B registration to integrated L -> combine RGB channels -> DBE -> SPCC -> BlurXTerminator -> first NoiseXTerminator pass with medium reduction -> HTs -> Combine L with RGB -> Curves / Saturation -> and if needed StarXTerminator and remove artifacts left over from integration.
Additionally, with Ross' tools, the quality actually increased although my workflow is MUCH faster now. Those tools aren't cheap, but MAN are they mighty.
And even though they are AI based, the AI doesn't invent any new details, just accentuates existing ones.
That's sweet!! I'm getting excited now for Bodes to come back into view so I can try with my new iOptron 8" RC that I purchased yesterday. #Instock 🤪
Hey! Congrats! It's a great scope!
Great videos !!
Can you quickly describe the calibration and integration of the L,R,G,B files ?
Did you use the individual processes or the WeightedBatchPreprocessing Script ?
Just curious - what camera are you using ?
thanks,
Monty
Thanks Monty!! Everything was integrated and stacked using the wbpp script with all setting on auto.
Bias were .5sec along with darks and flats.
I'm using the asi1600mm pro.
I'm using the Luminance technique for color saturation on m81 right now, and it works amazingly well. Thanks. Do you have a Twitter account?
Awesome!! No just an Instagram and Facebook. You can find me on Instagram.....@EnteringIntoSPACE
Thank you for your tutorials, they are very instructional, although if I want to ask some questions or send you a file which is the best to do it? Do you have a web page? Thank you again!
Hey Thanks! My son is actually in the process of building my website....but you can reach me at.
s1308pc@hotmail.com
Hope to hear from you!
hello, now this guide is a point of reference for me and I thank you for having created it .. can I ask you the shutter speed and exposure?
subs were 3 min at unity gain
Hey Steve, thanks for the great and detailed guide about processing M81! I came across a problem while following the tutorial though; while applying the luminance to bring out the color, it only would allow me to do it once. I tried dragging the luminance a couple of times like you done on 15:00 , but it would not add any more saturation to the image after the first drag. Is there a fix for this?
Hey thanks! Sounds like a pix glitch to me. There shouldn't be any settings to prevent adding more luminance.
Dumb question, have you rebooted?
@@enteringintospace4685 I have not rebooted yet. Let me try that out!
@@enteringintospace4685 Rebooting worked! The image became more saturated the amount of times I dragged the triangle. Now, the galaxies are yellow, but I think that can be fixed in photoshop. Thanks for the help
Love this video as a beginner to PI!. Also what music did you use for the beginning intro?
Thanks for watching! I use a royalty free sight, ill have to look up was song I picked.
@@enteringintospace4685 Thanks!
@@enteringintospace4685 I assume the ending is from the same song?
Thanks you're the man
Great stuff
Thanks!
Would you please make a short tutorial on how to preserve dust lanes or dark nebula which are outside the main nebula….which may be related how to further add to or refine a lum mask?😊❤️
On it! 😊
I'm working on M81 & M82 right now and using your techniques I'm getting some good results. Then I remembered I had a bunch of Ha data I could use as well. I combined the Ha data with the red channel following the Light Vortex tutorial and now I can't get the LRGB technique to boost colors, except for red. Any ideas on why that might be?
Hey sorry for the late response, TH-cam notifications stink. That's a mystery to me unless for some reason a mask was still engaged. Were you able to figure it out?
@@enteringintospace4685 Better late than never! :)
I didn't figure it out, but my data sets were such a mess that I gave up on it. I'll start a new set another time.
Currently reworking some Iris Nebula data I took last year.
@@feraxks bummer, hopefully you can recapture them. Yeah I hate their hit or miss notification system. I've seen massages a year old😳
I've watched a LOT of LRGB videos but this one will be my go to! Thanks Steve!
Wow!! Appreciate that!
Ok, I really hate your channel and this video in particular because now I feel like I have to go back and reprocess all of my images!! LOL But seriously, great channel - I'm learning a ton from you!
Lol...man that's an awesome feeling to go back and freshen up old data.
Thanks for the positive feedback, I got more coming!
amazing :)
Man I need to buy a monochrome camera
Very good video. Could do with a little less music.
Thanks for the feed back.
Nice video, but you need to fix your star colors, not keen on the light blue stars :)
Very good video, but it would be ten times better if you ditched the annoying background music.
Feel better?😉
have u try separated the stars and edit the color before putting the stars back in? lol
Not with rgb images just narrow band.
Although it might be a good idea, so the stars don't get over saturated