Some of these cards are from the Thirteenth Doctor's deck, like Frost Fair Lure Fish and Iraxxa, so in its own deck Iraxxa won't typically be interacting with Suspend.
Not to say you can't mix or match cards from different decks, just they aren't explicitly meant for the suspend theme, but the wording in the video implies they are in the Timey-Wimey precon.
You guessed the Adipose lore really well! They were sold as a fat loss supplement where the fat literally comes to life and leaps off of you... and toward the end of the episode they just start adiposing entire people all at once instead of just a little bit off the top.
yeah, it's literally fine if they just get rid of the excess fat from people but if you pump up the rate at which they are birthed, then the person will reach 0% body fat, and also 0% bone mass etc
Yeah, some of these aren't from the Timey Wimey deck. Danny Pink and Bill Potts were from the 12th doctors era. Think all the Paradox stuff is meant for the 12/13th doctors deck as well. Understandable mix up as the 9/10/11th Doctor deck is Jeskai while the 12/13th Doctor deck is Temur so they overlap quite a bit. Now, either way seeing these Paradox cards (and I also learned Delayed Blast Fireball is a card) I continue to be irrationally annoyed because my favorite commander is Zethi (In-universe Chun-Li) and if she was Jeskai instead she could be crazy with them.
I've definitely changed my mind about the Reveal Lands / Snarls. I have one of copies of many of the $5+ dual lands (shocks, slowlands, Bondlands, etc) and would move them between different decks as needed. At some point though I found out that dual color decks can function very well with just basics and a budget dual color mana base with basics and
Jenny is a card hell yeah! Also really happy Clara is on Fractured Identity and with that flavour text... God I love Clara lol. Also Wilfred getting a card is just sweet.
Temple of the false god is a flavor win, referencing a pretty good doctor speech from the rings of akhaten where he confronts a being pretending to be a god.
I can't wait until it's like a week after the rest of these cards are revealed and some video comes out explaining the context for all of these Seeing so many people not know the stories of cards from other settings has been fun but this is the first that I haven't known myself I don't think it'd be the weirdest way to get introduced to some big franchise but it's definitely an interesting one
If you're playing an exile themed changeling/doctor deck, Twice Upon A Time might be pretty good just because you can sort of hide it within your large exile pile
If the goal is to make it feel less threatening then that could backfire if you slip it in there and have it later pointed out you have an extra turn ready. Depending on the playgroup that could be funny though.
Danny pink sounds sweet for my (non-infect) atraxa counters matter deck! At least, mechanically. It sticks out like a sore thumb theme wise. Maybe I get an art proxy for it or sth.
0:50 in the show, they sold weight loss pills that would make you lose insane amounts of fat, without exercise or diet. It turned out that the fat in your body was dissolving off of you to become adorable baby aliens. And eventually your whole body would dissolve into them. They were being sold off as adoptable, adorable children.
I love Doctor Who (esp. the 10th Doctor), and I preordered this deck. And each of the cards is on-flavor for its character or story point. But I'm looking at this and having a hard time figuring out how this is anything close to a cohesive deck. And that makes me a bit disappointed. I'm starting to think I'd be better off just buying 10 and Rose as singles and skip the deck, especially if I want the cooler special treatments anyway.
The Timey-Wimey precon is a time counter manipulation deck. The deck controls when cards become active (largely suspend and vanishing cards which use time counters). If you don’t like that unique archetype, I would not recommend buying it. It kind of blends proliferate with foretell.
I highly doubt you could buy everything from this deck as singles to where it would be cheaper than just getting the deck so unless you really don't want the rest of the cards and only 10 and Rose then sure. But I don't see how a doctor who fan would want to miss on any of these as they are all flavoured greatly. Also with the commander deck you will get a sample pack which of course are very hit miss but eh still a thing. Also Plane chases exist which even if one don't play with them I think it's pretty cool to have cards presenting locations from Dr who.
@@Dragon_Fyre I understand (and love) the intended theme. I just don't see enough cards that really support it or give me adequate payoff for the suspend. I would love to see a couple of huge splashy spells. You could put Omniscience in with art from the School Day episode (Scalene Paradigm). "If a Time Lord had that kind of knowledge, he'd become a god--a vengeful god." Or just one extra turn spell. I want to build a suspend deck with some big splashy stuff. The Flesh Duplicate seems unnecessary; why do I want a uu cost Phyrexian Metamorph with narrower targeting?
I see Psychic Paper more as a strictly better Prowler's Helm and Trailblazer's Boots (both of which I run). The ward 4 on Winged Boots is way more relevant than ward 1.
Wow yea it would be Something as generic as, tokens when you make any counter would go infinite with anything up to the kitchen sink! But this has me wondering about the logical extreme of that How watered down would a card have to be to have an ability that does something whenever literally any other card or ability resolves, while staying somewhere between unplayable and blatantly overpowered?
Wait. Let's say you have Dan Lewis in play, and use Liquimetal Coating to turn an aura (enchant creature) into an artifact. Then you can pay 1 to move it to another creature, and it will stay there even after the turn ends, right?
The rule for an aura is that if it is unattached, it goes to the graveyard. Equipping it to another creature is not enchanting that creature, so I would expect that at end of turn, the aura goes to the graveyard.
@@Dragon_Fyre That definitely is not true about an Aura going to the graveyard if it becomes unattached. If that were true, you wouldn't be able to move around something like Bound by Moonsilver with its own effect. The rule is that if it is ever not attached to an object it can legally enchant when state based actions are checked, it will hit the graveyard. I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that if you make an aura an artifact, Bludgeon Brawl lets you attach it to something else. I don't know what happens if the creature you try to equip the aura to is an illegal enchant targert, though. My gut says that it falls off because it's still an aura that would still have the stipulation.
@@TheAverageGuyTAG Thank you grammar nazi 🙄… That is obviously under the context of the question asked and of my answer (I noted at end of turn when it would stop being an equipment), what I meant for when an aura is unattached it goes to the graveyard that I was referring to when state based actions are checked not if it moved from its current target. I did note it was only my opinion, but I would expect an intelligent argument to be based on the context and why I may be incorrect not arguing grammar or punctuation.
An aura falls off when SBA are checked and it's not attached to a legal target. But is the "attachment" of an aura somehow different from the "attachment" of an equipment?
You keep saying they aren’t very good but these cards are designed to work in the precons not really anywhere else and most who fans and magic fans won’t be splitting the decks but keeping them together
There were a lot of players that split up the Warhammer 40k and LotR precons that included many new staples for MTG players. So far, the Doctor Who pre-cons do seem to be far more focussed on being flavourful versus powerful by comparison.
@@magnusprime962It would have been funny if someone built an insider joke into it that WotC missed, like when Jack Harkness enters play or attacks put a 1/1 soldier token into play attacking.
I think it'd be a perfect response when someone brings a big scary card into an otherwise really low powered table But in this case, you've gone from 1 opponent having Rhystic to 2 of them It could feel like a big group hug-y moment, a lot of cards get drawn, while doubling the trouble for most of the table and dunking on whoever had it first really hard Gets situations like "Do you pay the three increments of 1?", picking and choosing which opponent draw a card Oh, and heavens forbid anyone's playing something like Nekusar or 4 mana Sheoldred Love the card It's anything from niche expensive removal with side effects, to a game defining setpiece that turns another cool card into a story
You can tutor them. Changelings have the Doctor subtype. The reason you can't pair them up with a Doctor's companion is that the rules for "Doctor's companion" requires the commander to only have the creature types "Timelord" and "Doctor".
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Some of these cards are from the Thirteenth Doctor's deck, like Frost Fair Lure Fish and Iraxxa, so in its own deck Iraxxa won't typically be interacting with Suspend.
Not to say you can't mix or match cards from different decks, just they aren't explicitly meant for the suspend theme, but the wording in the video implies they are in the Timey-Wimey precon.
Almost all of them, really. Everything except the white cards and (probably) the psychic paper (before the gauntlet of cards at the end)
You guessed the Adipose lore really well! They were sold as a fat loss supplement where the fat literally comes to life and leaps off of you... and toward the end of the episode they just start adiposing entire people all at once instead of just a little bit off the top.
yeah, it's literally fine if they just get rid of the excess fat from people but if you pump up the rate at which they are birthed, then the person will reach 0% body fat, and also 0% bone mass etc
"a pound a day, the fat just walks away"
Yeah, some of these aren't from the Timey Wimey deck. Danny Pink and Bill Potts were from the 12th doctors era. Think all the Paradox stuff is meant for the 12/13th doctors deck as well. Understandable mix up as the 9/10/11th Doctor deck is Jeskai while the 12/13th Doctor deck is Temur so they overlap quite a bit.
Now, either way seeing these Paradox cards (and I also learned Delayed Blast Fireball is a card) I continue to be irrationally annoyed because my favorite commander is Zethi (In-universe Chun-Li) and if she was Jeskai instead she could be crazy with them.
Say what you want, those cards are a definite flavour-win mechanically
I've definitely changed my mind about the Reveal Lands / Snarls. I have one of copies of many of the $5+ dual lands (shocks, slowlands, Bondlands, etc) and would move them between different decks as needed. At some point though I found out that dual color decks can function very well with just basics and a budget dual color mana base with basics and
Jenny is a card hell yeah! Also really happy Clara is on Fractured Identity and with that flavour text... God I love Clara lol. Also Wilfred getting a card is just sweet.
Confession Dial is going to be great for my secret commander deck ideas.
Temple of the false god is a flavor win, referencing a pretty good doctor speech from the rings of akhaten where he confronts a being pretending to be a god.
I can't wait until it's like a week after the rest of these cards are revealed and some video comes out explaining the context for all of these
Seeing so many people not know the stories of cards from other settings has been fun but this is the first that I haven't known myself
I don't think it'd be the weirdest way to get introduced to some big franchise but it's definitely an interesting one
Im hoping for another commander for the cyberman, was nice to see more options for the daleks so hoping there’s another option for cyberman as well
Missy is the one for Cybermen
We got one! The Cyber-Controller, solid contender, generates a lot of Cybermen and buffs them.
27:29 Temple of the False God is a lore inclusion, referring to The Rings of Akhaten episode.
If you're playing an exile themed changeling/doctor deck, Twice Upon A Time might be pretty good just because you can sort of hide it within your large exile pile
If the goal is to make it feel less threatening then that could backfire if you slip it in there and have it later pointed out you have an extra turn ready.
Depending on the playgroup that could be funny though.
Quantum Misalignment seems like fun in an Orvar deck
Can't wait to slot Wreck and Rebuild into my Slimefoot and Squee deck
Jenny seems insane
Psychic paper can change the name of a legendary creature it is equipped to.
Danny pink sounds sweet for my (non-infect) atraxa counters matter deck!
At least, mechanically. It sticks out like a sore thumb theme wise. Maybe I get an art proxy for it or sth.
Great coverage, thanks
0:50 in the show, they sold weight loss pills that would make you lose insane amounts of fat, without exercise or diet. It turned out that the fat in your body was dissolving off of you to become adorable baby aliens. And eventually your whole body would dissolve into them. They were being sold off as adoptable, adorable children.
I love Doctor Who (esp. the 10th Doctor), and I preordered this deck. And each of the cards is on-flavor for its character or story point. But I'm looking at this and having a hard time figuring out how this is anything close to a cohesive deck. And that makes me a bit disappointed. I'm starting to think I'd be better off just buying 10 and Rose as singles and skip the deck, especially if I want the cooler special treatments anyway.
The Timey-Wimey precon is a time counter manipulation deck. The deck controls when cards become active (largely suspend and vanishing cards which use time counters). If you don’t like that unique archetype, I would not recommend buying it.
It kind of blends proliferate with foretell.
I highly doubt you could buy everything from this deck as singles to where it would be cheaper than just getting the deck so unless you really don't want the rest of the cards and only 10 and Rose then sure.
But I don't see how a doctor who fan would want to miss on any of these as they are all flavoured greatly. Also with the commander deck you will get a sample pack which of course are very hit miss but eh still a thing. Also Plane chases exist which even if one don't play with them I think it's pretty cool to have cards presenting locations from Dr who.
@@Dragon_Fyre I understand (and love) the intended theme. I just don't see enough cards that really support it or give me adequate payoff for the suspend. I would love to see a couple of huge splashy spells. You could put Omniscience in with art from the School Day episode (Scalene Paradigm). "If a Time Lord had that kind of knowledge, he'd become a god--a vengeful god." Or just one extra turn spell. I want to build a suspend deck with some big splashy stuff. The Flesh Duplicate seems unnecessary; why do I want a uu cost Phyrexian Metamorph with narrower targeting?
19:45 is this the first totally non permanent adventure we ever got?
i wish they would do full art lands in these premium precons
Sundown pass is actually like $5 so decent reprint
Guess I will have to buy a Danny Pink for my Kenrith-Zirda deck.
Jhoira's Timebug be nice here.
Psychic Paper is essentially a slightest less good version of Winged Boots for nonblue decks, which is maaaaybe worth it sometimes?
Ward 1 is a minor nuisance. Ward 4 is nearly hexproof.
I see Psychic Paper more as a strictly better Prowler's Helm and Trailblazer's Boots (both of which I run). The ward 4 on Winged Boots is way more relevant than ward 1.
@@TheAverageGuyTAG I prefer Whispersilk Cloak unless having Shroud is going to be a problem ie. Voltron deck.
When i first read Kate Stewart, I missed the word "time" on her abilities and thought it was the most broken card from the set 😂
Wow yea it would be
Something as generic as, tokens when you make any counter would go infinite with anything up to the kitchen sink!
But this has me wondering about the logical extreme of that
How watered down would a card have to be to have an ability that does something whenever literally any other card or ability resolves, while staying somewhere between unplayable and blatantly overpowered?
Who actually did the deck reveal? I never saw it.
Such a large chunk of these cards are from the thirteenth precon, that is very sloppy of you
Impending Flux with Ob Nixilus, Captive Kingpin
I'm gonna need a lot of counters or dice to play these decks
Man, WOTC REALLY likes Prosper decks
Would I be able to to get the doctor who cards at Walmart or target stores near me
Wait. Let's say you have Dan Lewis in play, and use Liquimetal Coating to turn an aura (enchant creature) into an artifact. Then you can pay 1 to move it to another creature, and it will stay there even after the turn ends, right?
The rule for an aura is that if it is unattached, it goes to the graveyard. Equipping it to another creature is not enchanting that creature, so I would expect that at end of turn, the aura goes to the graveyard.
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That definitely is not true about an Aura going to the graveyard if it becomes unattached. If that were true, you wouldn't be able to move around something like Bound by Moonsilver with its own effect. The rule is that if it is ever not attached to an object it can legally enchant when state based actions are checked, it will hit the graveyard.
I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure that if you make an aura an artifact, Bludgeon Brawl lets you attach it to something else. I don't know what happens if the creature you try to equip the aura to is an illegal enchant targert, though. My gut says that it falls off because it's still an aura that would still have the stipulation.
@@TheAverageGuyTAG Thank you grammar nazi 🙄… That is obviously under the context of the question asked and of my answer (I noted at end of turn when it would stop being an equipment), what I meant for when an aura is unattached it goes to the graveyard that I was referring to when state based actions are checked not if it moved from its current target.
I did note it was only my opinion, but I would expect an intelligent argument to be based on the context and why I may be incorrect not arguing grammar or punctuation.
An aura falls off when SBA are checked and it's not attached to a legal target. But is the "attachment" of an aura somehow different from the "attachment" of an equipment?
Is this the correct decklist for Timey Wimey? Did I miss Everybody Lives!
They didn’t include cards that were already in previous videos this week.
bro half the cards are not in that deck
You keep saying they aren’t very good but these cards are designed to work in the precons not really anywhere else and most who fans and magic fans won’t be splitting the decks but keeping them together
There were a lot of players that split up the Warhammer 40k and LotR precons that included many new staples for MTG players.
So far, the Doctor Who pre-cons do seem to be far more focussed on being flavourful versus powerful by comparison.
Did Jack Harkness not get a card?
Considering the controversy surrounding John Barrowman, they were probably trying to avoid that landmine.
None to his own name. Just the Face of Bo
The face of boe?
Yeah. Per late series 3, Harkness is immortal and the Face of Bo is Jack after some ludicrous timescale
@@magnusprime962It would have been funny if someone built an insider joke into it that WotC missed, like when Jack Harkness enters play or attacks put a 1/1 soldier token into play attacking.
"Everyone lives" fucked me
I don’t think fractured identity is a particularly good card, but it is hilarious…
“Rhystic Studies for everyone… except YOU!”
I think it'd be a perfect response when someone brings a big scary card into an otherwise really low powered table
But in this case, you've gone from 1 opponent having Rhystic to 2 of them
It could feel like a big group hug-y moment, a lot of cards get drawn, while doubling the trouble for most of the table and dunking on whoever had it first really hard
Gets situations like "Do you pay the three increments of 1?", picking and choosing which opponent draw a card
Oh, and heavens forbid anyone's playing something like Nekusar or 4 mana Sheoldred
Love the card
It's anything from niche expensive removal with side effects,
to a game defining setpiece that turns another cool card into a story
You cant tutor changelings or pair them with companions
You can tutor them. Changelings have the Doctor subtype. The reason you can't pair them up with a Doctor's companion is that the rules for "Doctor's companion" requires the commander to only have the creature types "Timelord" and "Doctor".
def mixed in cards from other decks, wreck and rebuild literally cant be in this deck
Timestamp for when Tomer starts losing his actual mind :P
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This is going to be a pass for me, I am not a fan of this IP but happy for the people that are looking forward to this
Boy oh boy are these decks going to hate Dranith Magistrate.
Nearly every deck hates Dranith Magistrate.
@@Dragon_Fyre true, but usually that's because they can't cast their commander, this is because they can't cast half the things they want to cast.
This isn't just the Timey-Whimey precon, bad titling
Yes pain draw lands are money and that means i have to spend more to pimp my pet deck... stop
Please stop downplaying cards because there are one or two better options ... in a different color!
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This seems weak even compared to other precons. I hate it when Wizards does this. It sets up new players to lose.
MTG needs other IPs to be interesting. Do you even realize how much Hasbro is indeed a bad, awful, greedy and incompetent company?
Hello
If you didn't say meh every other card you'd be my favorite streamer but.its such an unthoughtful stupid word. I hate it
Is Timey-Wimey really the best name Wizards could think of? It sounds like a deck name some little kid would come up with.
I reckon it's silly on purpose, it's a reference to a reoccurring joke from the show
Next you're going to tell me wotc wasn't very creative making 13 characters called "The first doctor", "The second doctor", etc!
Tell me you don't know anything about doctor who without telling me you don't.