The "haven" in Newhaven is actually also a sea word! It's cognate with German 'hafen' and Dutch 'haven' meaning harbour - So really it's New Harbour harbour.
Hence the saying "Any safe haven in a storm", I get the impression that a haven is a sheltered place such as The Downs or Torbay and may not be a harbour.
Our local gas terminal here in Norway is called Nyhamna - which is the same as Newhaven. There is also Newhaven in Scotland, with the stress on the second syllable.....
Public information announcement: If you are catching the ferry from Newhaven to go to Dieppe, alight at Newhaven Town not Newhaven Harbour. If you do get out at Newhaven Harbour by mistake, exit the station on the East side and follow the road North for 10 minutes, walk past Newhaven Town station and cross the railway at the level crossing to gain access to the ferry ticket/boarding office. My wife and I found this out the hard way! Great video again, thank you.
To leave the train for the ferry at Harbour you also have to ignore the information on the ferry website, posters at stations, notices on the train info boards, messages on the train, and often announcements from the on board staff, and even when told in person by on board staff to go, 'are you sure', and then ignore them as you know best.
sarahj8231 But the ferry booking site via a phone didn’t mention it, the ticket machine at Brighton really didn’t care, the only station sign about it we could see on the return journey was at Lewes (We really had a good look for them), the dot matrix departure board was too busy, if there was an announcement we didn’t hear it and when they checked our ticket nothing was said. Yes we got it wrong, but we didn’t get a lot of help to put us right.
Bertolt B13 there is a poster on the platform at town, the route map on the train and at stations that shows the ferry running from town, and doing ticket checks the staff often have to guess if your going for the ferry. And when told the reply is often ‘are you sure’
Ahhhhhh, this takes me back to the mid 80's where there was "Network SouthEast Day", where for a tenner (10 quid) you could travel anywhere in the Network Southeast network all day, 12:01am to 11:59PM. I would be out on a train at around 6am from Portsmouth, to London, spend the day exploring the underground trains, and have it planned so I get on a train that gets to Salisbury and change trains for the Cardiff to Portsmouth before midnight which If I remember was at about 11:45PM, the last Cardiff to Portsmouth. Once you were on the train, the ticket was valid all the way to Portsmouth. Those were the days.
The Network Southeast railcard still exists! It’s now called the Network Railcard. Tickets still print with “NSE” when you’ve used your Network Railcard! Anyway, nice vid Mr Marshall.
Did a few of those in the late eighties , also used the Victoria to Newhaven boat trains a few times,always overnight. not a great experience. Remember some nutter running through train shouting yay we are going to london at the top of his voice!
London Midland did the same thing 5 or 6 years ago. Anywhere on there network for £10. Travelled up to Liverpool. I've fit Network Railcard strange it covers up to Kings Lynn but doesn't go to Ipswich, stops one station short.
In Germany, there are day tickets valid for travel on regional (not intercity) trains in an entire state or pair of states; the Berlin-Brandenburg one allows you to also go across the border into Poland,
Given that it's a traditional card ticket that your usual computer printer can't print, it seems bizarre that you *have* to order it online, and collect it from a ticket office (even though you can't buy it there) or have it posted. A inconvenient mix of the up-to-date and the old-fashioned.
Great video, Geoff. Love these videos. I live in Canberra, the capital of Australia, that only gets two trains a day to Sydney. It’s so cool seeing how thorough the British rail network is!
How many other stations were built because of a washed up whale ? Norman's Bay - The whale washed up on the 13th Nov 1865 and weighed approx 72 tons ( the skeleton resides at The Nat History Museum in Cambridge ). The Brighton Railway Co created a temporary halt to meet public sightseeing demand.
Interesting concept for a video. There are so many regional challenges you could do with rangers and rovers. Here's one for you, visit all the stations ending in "ham" on an Anglia Plus Day Ranger . Or all the stations ending in "ley" on a South Pennines Day Ranger.
@@Marmeladecheeseshoes Downham market is not included in the anglia plus day ranger area (and the WHOLE line to Kings lynn) as its great northern and not greater anglia.
Geoff saying he was in Brighton, reminded me that I have visited five (New) Brighton's in one calendar (2017) year, South coast England, near Liverpool, Adelaide Australia, Sydney Australia, Christchurch New Zealand.
Hi Geoff, it was your video about the Newhaven Marina that discovered your great vids. And that was via Wikipedia on Marina station! Keep up the good work.
I’ve bought these tickets a couple of times (starting from Victoria). The first time I was initially planning just to visit Chichester (for a theatre trip and a wander round the city) where an off peak day return would have set me back £31.50 without a Railcard. I ended up having a wonderful day out visiting Arundel and Portsmouth too. One thing to point out is that these tickets don’t work in any ticket barriers which can be a bit frustrating. I also wasn’t able to collect it from a machine at Victoria and had to queue up to get it from the ticket office, but I think there were general problems with their self service ticket machines at the time. Thanks for a great video Geoff!
Thanks to you Geoff I decided to get a daysave ticket for me and my friend and we took a trip down to Brighton on Saturday to catch a 313 and it was a lovely experience!
Thats used to be my commute to college everyday, Shoreham-by-Sea to Goring by sea! Shame I didn't bump into you, that would of been around the time I would go. Keep up the good work!
From the video it looks like the tracks are blocked off to Newhaven Marine - they've got stop barriers across them. Therefore the ghost train can't be running.
Great video as usual. Was at Newhaven on Saturday had a look around like you its changed a lot from the good old days of the Ghost Train!. Also went to Cooden beach a couple of weeks back very interesting little station great for visiting the beach!
I know in the West Mids we have something similiar called a Network Daytripper for €6.90 Its valid on all trains, buses and midland metro ( tram ) in the county of West Mids ( Wolverhampton -Birmingham - Coventry and everywhere between )
Excellent idea for a day out. My wife & I recently travelled around using the Heart of Wessex Rover day ticket. Storming view of the Severn bridge on the way to Severn Beach!
I've used that a few times myself, mainly on Saturdays (as no time restrictions) to get around the South Coast. Provided you book 3 days in advance it works out a lot cheaper than a day ticket even if doing just a day return to say Hastings or Littlehampton from East Croydon. The last time I did it, I went to Hastings, onwards to Ashford International and to the Outlet Village, back to Hastings and then to Lewes for a mooch around before going back to East Croydon. Worked out pretty well.
Good to see our old Watford DC line 313s are still in service, though it's not a train to use if you get caught short. At 40+ years old, they must be amongst the oldest units in regular service.
There is even one unit running on the line in near original livery (few changes to comply with door marking regulations) Unit 313201 th-cam.com/video/h5HH0YCuZYE/w-d-xo.html
@@bishwatntl Other than the IOW units, they are indeed the oldest electric units in the country. However, at least one car from the original diesel HST prototype set of 1972 is still in regular use with East Coast (or was until very recently), and the lounge cars still in use on the Highland Sleeper are mark 2Fs from 1973
Geoff, I don't know if you are happy to hear that, but you have inspired me a pub crawl. Leaving from Victoria, with stops in Southampton, Portsmouth, Littlehampton, brighton, Eastbourne and Gatwick airport. I will put it on a website as soon as it's done. you don't seem like a guy who drinks a lot (apart from tea) but you might think the idea is fun :)
It's a dactyl, stressed syllable followed by two unstressed. -⏑⏑ in metrical notation. And the e in chel reduced to a schwa: so WIN-chul-sea or /ˈwɪntʃəlsi/.
I spent the first 22 years of my life in and around Rye. I would pronounce it win-chul-SEA. When it comes to Winchelsea beach though it's more like winch-ul-SEA
I grow up in bexhill on sea, loved it and miss it. Nice to see the beach I played on as a little boy. Normans bay level crossing was gate operated Antilles 2016/17 I can’t remember but I remember local residents was not happy with network rail and wanted it to be stopped and hampden park level crossing is one of the busiest in Europe.
Great vlog Geoff. Why is there nothing there... it is really grim and I live in the North. You went on a nice day and other than that one wave from the guard there seemed nothing anywhere... and that beach ... not even anyone fishing. Wonderful to know we have such undiscovered places. I used to cross Newhaven/Dieppe can't believe it's all gone...
This was a very interesting post by you which I enjoyed very much. On reaching Cooden Beach by way of that long walk on the shingle from Normans Bay Halt I'm surprised you didn't call in to the Cooden Beach Hotel adjacent to the station for a well earned cuppa! BTW you could have had some background music "Sussex by the Sea"
Hey Geoff, I got my southern daysave ticket today on the 30th which is a Saturday because there are no restrictions on that day so i can start Early at around 7 in the morning.
You can buy this ticket in a shop, one stop travel in north street, Brighton. I've been using this ticket for over a decade. It used to cost £11 then. Thameslink also had a similar ticket.
In Poland for 81 zł (~15£). You have whole weekend ticket (even long weekends). That allows You to travel the whole PKP network for 2 days (Polish national railway company)
I had a great day on one of these on a Saturday in early February travelling on lines I hadn't done before and old favourites such as the Brighton Line. An excellent ticket and no time restrictions at weekends and on Bank Holidays.
They have had this ticket for a few years now. When I used to commute from Newhaven to Vic in 2014 they did a 7 day daysaver for about eighty something quid with no time restrictions so I saved about 25 quid a week on the cost of a weekly to London!
This ticket has been around for years... I 1st used it in 2010/2011.. That was when it was £10 Haywards Heath and South of that. A Full Network Day Save use to be £12.50. Restriction used to be Purchase 48hrs in advance. After 10am M-F. No Restrictions Sat,Sun & Bank Holidays..
Winchelsea is a medieval planned town laid out on a rectangular grid. It is a beautiful little town, too bad you didn't get to see it. The 20 minute walk to the town takes you past farms with farm animals in the pastures. Very pleasant....at least it was 35 years ago.
As a single ticket from London to Shoreham can cost more that £20, this may be a cheaper way to make that journey. (Although I do usually just buy a return from shoreham and discard the outbound bit as a return is cheaper than a single). Love the fact you were in Shoreham-by-Sea
Yes. I know Goring station well. Use that when I went to college around there. Back when Network SouthCentral operated services (just before Connex South Central took over) with 'slam door' trains! That's shows you that it was quite a while ago! PS 2:18 Your postman (or Postwoman) must be very punctual Geoff for that shot to work so well!
well done Geoff, another interesting video. I was hoping to trip you up by saying you hadn't visited Bexhill-On-Sea Station but although scrolling through about a hundred photo's I couldn't find one name-plate saying 'Bexhill-On-Sea. It was just Bexhill. The closest I could get was a Br. Rail poster saying 'visit Bexhill-On-Sea'.
My old stamping grounds living in Bexhill-on-SEA and working in Eastbourne. Could not use the train due to schedules though and I loved driving the back road from Cooden to Pevency Bay. I am sure Bexhill used to be on SEA. You could set your watch by hearing the 1001 thumper going through Bexhill-on-SEA at 5 to the hour, every hour.
I went to Bournemouth with it. Years and years ago. And it was £10! SouthCentral at that time. Thameslink used to have it. And it was cheaper to use that day save from Brighton to Luton than normal cheap day rtn. And they were on sale at tourist offices.
In my local newspaper there is a promotion allowing you unlimited travel on Northern Rail for just £10. You have to collect a certain number of vouchers in a local paper and collect the tickets from a local railway station where northern trains serve.
Winchelsea - these one of these on my old home town line, it used to be somewhat interesting because that's where the Up and Down train's would cross - single platform on the main line and the down would reverse back past the point's, go onto the loop and wait for the Up to come in and clear the block.
Now that's an idea for next summer! Buy one of these coupled with two cheap Birmingham-London tickets (LNWR there, Chiltern back) and then get a Victoria-Portsmouth via Arundel train to Chichester (I did the line beyond there to Portsmouth many years ago, when a member of the Great Rail Club!) then head along the coast, including branches to Hastings, then back to Victoria! Should be fun!
Its Pevensey and Westham, that's west as in compass direction and with ham rhyming with spam, born and lived here 55 years, apart from that another great video.
Geoff should make a special video visiting Fishbourne, Fishersgate (interesting stations in their own right) and possibly Portslade to fully complete the sea-related set! :D
If you're ever in Brighton again, we can have a look at the old Kemptown railway. Closed finally in the early 70s, but a lot of "evidence" it was there still stands, including the tunnel that runs underneath one of the biggest hills in Brighton. Let me know
Used to buy this ticket all the time when I lived in Brighton 2009/11 from a travel agents at the bottom of St James'a Street on the Old Stein. Surprised to see that the price is £20, which is the same price it was back then.
Excellent video publicising this type of ticket!!! Sadly though as explained you have to go looking for them and each company seem to have take on such tickets. Southern appear to cover all routes, yet Northern splits their route network into areas and don't appear to have an all Northern Route ticket.
There are also afternoon peak restrictions from 16.15 to 19.15 Monday to Friday, the wording of which in the restrictions is, in my mind, a little ambiguous.
I notice the siding into Newhaven Marine had a bar across with a red lamp which rather indicates it isnt used anymore. Of course, its raison d'etre, as a boat train terminus, rather declined in the 60s (due to RoRo ferries) and furthermore when they opened the Chunnel. Quai Henri IV in Dieppe disappeared many moons ago along with the fast rail link to Paris. So heres a thought - how many former Boat Train terminii still exist? (Littlehampton for one). Another thing station wise from your video - whats the remotest station from the town its supposed to serve. ?
5:25I I remember that video! The guy on the phone being really non-committal about there being any trains at all All The Stations , before All The Stations
Mm enjoyable and of course now in 2022 the early train stock shown (class 313) is officially the oldest still in regular use on National Rail and must soon be up for replacement.(Only the Bakerloo 1973 tube stock, still trundling on, is older!!) Best wishes.
I see you travelled from Brighton to Seaford. Did you know you can travel from Brighton (or Hove) to Seaford on a direct train in Adelaide, Australia? the big difference is whilst Seaford station, in England opened in 1864, Seaford Station in Adelaide (also a terminus) opened in February 2014, some 150 years later. Its also on the coast.
The ticket is not mentioned on the ranger/rover page, but it is mentioned on the list of available ticket types: www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/prbd690bc35ce74100a7ae34c3df5fff.aspx Turns out you can buy them in-person at: Eastbourne, Lewes, Hastings and Seaford.
As Jay Foreman once said "I feel like we're saying the word sea a lot..."
There's nothing he could do about it.
Just try watching Bald and Bankrupt's channel. You will get very familiar with things that are 'Soviet'
The "haven" in Newhaven is actually also a sea word! It's cognate with German 'hafen' and Dutch 'haven' meaning harbour - So really it's New Harbour harbour.
Hence the saying "Any safe haven in a storm", I get the impression that a haven is a sheltered place such as The Downs or Torbay and may not be a harbour.
As Havn in Danish as well.
OK bro
Our local gas terminal here in Norway is called Nyhamna - which is the same as Newhaven. There is also Newhaven in Scotland, with the stress on the second syllable.....
What about counting Fishersgate
Public information announcement: If you are catching the ferry from Newhaven to go to Dieppe, alight at Newhaven Town not Newhaven Harbour. If you do get out at Newhaven Harbour by mistake, exit the station on the East side and follow the road North for 10 minutes, walk past Newhaven Town station and cross the railway at the level crossing to gain access to the ferry ticket/boarding office. My wife and I found this out the hard way!
Great video again, thank you.
To leave the train for the ferry at Harbour you also have to ignore the information on the ferry website, posters at stations, notices on the train info boards, messages on the train, and often announcements from the on board staff, and even when told in person by on board staff to go, 'are you sure', and then ignore them as you know best.
sarahj8231 But the ferry booking site via a phone didn’t mention it, the ticket machine at Brighton really didn’t care, the only station sign about it we could see on the return journey was at Lewes (We really had a good look for them), the dot matrix departure board was too busy, if there was an announcement we didn’t hear it and when they checked our ticket nothing was said. Yes we got it wrong, but we didn’t get a lot of help to put us right.
Bertolt B13 there is a poster on the platform at town, the route map on the train and at stations that shows the ferry running from town, and doing ticket checks the staff often have to guess if your going for the ferry. And when told the reply is often ‘are you sure’
Make sure you don't leave at Newhaven Marine...
Ahhhhhh, this takes me back to the mid 80's where there was "Network SouthEast Day", where for a tenner (10 quid) you could travel anywhere in the Network Southeast network all day, 12:01am to 11:59PM.
I would be out on a train at around 6am from Portsmouth, to London, spend the day exploring the underground trains, and have it planned so I get on a train that gets to Salisbury and change trains for the Cardiff to Portsmouth before midnight which If I remember was at about 11:45PM, the last Cardiff to Portsmouth.
Once you were on the train, the ticket was valid all the way to Portsmouth.
Those were the days.
The Network Southeast railcard still exists! It’s now called the Network Railcard. Tickets still print with “NSE” when you’ve used your Network Railcard! Anyway, nice vid Mr Marshall.
That network south east day was awesome good days!
Did a few of those in the late eighties , also used the Victoria to Newhaven boat
trains a few times,always overnight. not a great experience. Remember some nutter running through train shouting yay we are going to london at the top of his voice!
London Midland did the same thing 5 or 6 years ago. Anywhere on there network for £10. Travelled up to Liverpool. I've fit Network Railcard strange it covers up to Kings Lynn but doesn't go to Ipswich, stops one station short.
In Germany, there are day tickets valid for travel on regional (not intercity) trains in an entire state or pair of states; the Berlin-Brandenburg one allows you to also go across the border into Poland,
Given that it's a traditional card ticket that your usual computer printer can't print, it seems bizarre that you *have* to order it online, and collect it from a ticket office (even though you can't buy it there) or have it posted. A inconvenient mix of the up-to-date and the old-fashioned.
Rosie Fay it's to make it awkward to buy, so it's less likely to be used. This is also why it's difficult to find on the website.
indeed.. way to complicated.
@@CRAZEDDUCKling Then why bother having it?
@@arthurgordon6072 it's possible that it's required in their operating contract
It's to stop commuters buying it as an alternative to regular tickets... Mind you, if you know your schedule well in advance. 😉
Great video, Geoff. Love these videos. I live in Canberra, the capital of Australia, that only gets two trains a day to Sydney. It’s so cool seeing how thorough the British rail network is!
I thought Sydney was the capital ? When was that changed?
@@elizabethmh_465 it has never been the capital, just lots of people think it is because it’s the best known city there
@elizabethmh_465 Sydney has never been the capital, common knowlege, mate.
Geoff: *walks on some rocks*
Geoff: "Welcome to the beach"
Australians: ??????
Where's the sand?!?
That is sand - just the grains are larger...
Sand beaches all over Britain but this little corner of the SE seems to be pebble heavy!
As a person from the south I can not disagree
*g r a v e l b e a c h*
How many other stations were built because of a washed up whale ? Norman's Bay - The whale washed up on the 13th Nov 1865 and weighed approx 72 tons ( the skeleton resides at The Nat History Museum in Cambridge ). The Brighton Railway Co created a temporary halt to meet public sightseeing demand.
I guess they forgot the 'tempory' part.
72 tons? They must have needed a whale-weigh station.
Geoff making a video on Southern and me recognising all the stops!!!! Truly incredible
2:35 "Southern services serve the seaside" That's a nice tongue twister, Geoff.
this is such a public service this. Geoff does it so we do not have to!
Interesting concept for a video. There are so many regional challenges you could do with rangers and rovers. Here's one for you, visit all the stations ending in "ham" on an Anglia Plus Day Ranger
. Or all the stations ending in "ley" on a South Pennines Day Ranger.
Would you include Needham Market, Wickham Market and Downham Market?
@@Marmeladecheeseshoes Downham market is not included in the anglia plus day ranger area (and the WHOLE line to Kings lynn) as its great northern and not greater anglia.
Geoff saying he was in Brighton, reminded me that I have visited five (New) Brighton's in one calendar (2017) year, South coast England, near Liverpool, Adelaide Australia, Sydney Australia, Christchurch New Zealand.
You missed Melbourne!
@@chinaski2020 Went to Melbourne on that trip and didn't go to Brighton, been there though, and on a train.
theres a new Brighton in north wales too. a blink and you miss it village. .
The Newhaven ghost train video was the first video of yours I stumbled across - nice to see an update!
Hi Geoff, it was your video about the Newhaven Marina that discovered your great vids. And that was via Wikipedia on Marina station! Keep up the good work.
I’ve bought these tickets a couple of times (starting from Victoria). The first time I was initially planning just to visit Chichester (for a theatre trip and a wander round the city) where an off peak day return would have set me back £31.50 without a Railcard. I ended up having a wonderful day out visiting Arundel and Portsmouth too. One thing to point out is that these tickets don’t work in any ticket barriers which can be a bit frustrating. I also wasn’t able to collect it from a machine at Victoria and had to queue up to get it from the ticket office, but I think there were general problems with their self service ticket machines at the time. Thanks for a great video Geoff!
I got one of these tickets last summer, and twice at the gate the assistant had never heard of the ticket before.
Thanks to you Geoff I decided to get a daysave ticket for me and my friend and we took a trip down to Brighton on Saturday to catch a 313 and it was a lovely experience!
0:44 & 4:04 Love how the beeping of the doors opening lined up with the background music - nice touch 😂👌🏾
Thanks Geoff for another brilliant video ,given me idea for my visit to that area end of this month
Thats used to be my commute to college everyday, Shoreham-by-Sea to Goring by sea! Shame I didn't bump into you, that would of been around the time I would go. Keep up the good work!
From the video it looks like the tracks are blocked off to Newhaven Marine - they've got stop barriers across them. Therefore the ghost train can't be running.
[Hard to source] rail rover ticket. A day on the ol' iron road, hopping around visiting different places. Can't beat it.
Great video as usual. Was at Newhaven on Saturday had a look around like you its changed a lot from the good old days of the Ghost Train!. Also went to Cooden beach a couple of weeks back very interesting little station great for visiting the beach!
Just to repeat, Pevensey Bay station was recorded in the 1950's by Peter Sellers under his own home movies.
In Mexico we don’t have those nice trains, but we do have sandier beaches… Nice trade off, huh? Amazing video, Geoff!
Great video Geoff!! Shoreham by sea is my home town so alwsys good to see it on one of your films!
I know in the West Mids we have something similiar called a Network Daytripper for €6.90
Its valid on all trains, buses and midland metro ( tram ) in the county of West Mids ( Wolverhampton -Birmingham - Coventry and everywhere between )
Excellent idea for a day out. My wife & I recently travelled around using the Heart of Wessex Rover day ticket. Storming view of the Severn bridge on the way to Severn Beach!
Just watched this and remembered bumping into you Geoff at Shoreham on this day, was great to meet you!
Seen the notification that you'd done a video, pulled over in a lay bye somewhere in Coventry to watch,
I've used that a few times myself, mainly on Saturdays (as no time restrictions) to get around the South Coast. Provided you book 3 days in advance it works out a lot cheaper than a day ticket even if doing just a day return to say Hastings or Littlehampton from East Croydon.
The last time I did it, I went to Hastings, onwards to Ashford International and to the Outlet Village, back to Hastings and then to Lewes for a mooch around before going back to East Croydon. Worked out pretty well.
Good to see our old Watford DC line 313s are still in service, though it's not a train to use if you get caught short. At 40+ years old, they must be amongst the oldest units in regular service.
There is even one unit running on the line in near original livery (few changes to comply with door marking regulations)
Unit 313201 th-cam.com/video/h5HH0YCuZYE/w-d-xo.html
The oldest unit in service is on the IOW. Dates from the 1930's.
@@cjg1970 Ah, yes. I forget about them - but that's a different story.
@@bishwatntl Other than the IOW units, they are indeed the oldest electric units in the country. However, at least one car from the original diesel HST prototype set of 1972 is still in regular use with East Coast (or was until very recently), and the lounge cars still in use on the Highland Sleeper are mark 2Fs from 1973
Geoff, I don't know if you are happy to hear that, but you have inspired me a pub crawl. Leaving from Victoria, with stops in Southampton, Portsmouth, Littlehampton, brighton, Eastbourne and Gatwick airport. I will put it on a website as soon as it's done.
you don't seem like a guy who drinks a lot (apart from tea) but you might think the idea is fun :)
"Is it 'Win-chel-SEA' or 'Win-CHEL-sea'?"
We shall see.
It's a dactyl, stressed syllable followed by two unstressed. -⏑⏑ in metrical notation. And the e in chel reduced to a schwa: so WIN-chul-sea or /ˈwɪntʃəlsi/.
@@calmeilles Thanks. And I'd consider that a win for Chelsea.
After the start this season, 2019/20, this station be renamed Losechelsea.
Sussex place names have the emphasis on the last syllable, so it's Win-chel-SEA. It is also Sea-FORD, not SEA-ford as Geoff pronounced it.
I spent the first 22 years of my life in and around Rye. I would pronounce it win-chul-SEA. When it comes to Winchelsea beach though it's more like winch-ul-SEA
So many places to go! Love these videos!!
A Geoff Marshall video-as British as fish and chips or a cup of tea with a cheese scone.M and C Enfield.
I grow up in bexhill on sea, loved it and miss it. Nice to see the beach I played on as a little boy. Normans bay level crossing was gate operated Antilles 2016/17 I can’t remember but I remember local residents was not happy with network rail and wanted it to be stopped and hampden park level crossing is one of the busiest in Europe.
Great vlog Geoff. Why is there nothing there... it is really grim and I live in the North. You went on a nice day and other than that one wave from the guard there seemed nothing anywhere... and that beach ... not even anyone fishing. Wonderful to know we have such undiscovered places. I used to cross Newhaven/Dieppe can't believe it's all gone...
Same line as Winchelsea, Doleham used to be shortest platform I believe, but thats now been topped by those 2 stations north of Inverness
This was a very interesting post by you which I enjoyed very much. On reaching Cooden Beach by way of that long walk on the shingle from Normans Bay Halt I'm surprised you didn't call in to the Cooden Beach Hotel adjacent to the station for a well earned cuppa! BTW you could have had some background music "Sussex by the Sea"
The sea can be seen, briefly, from the train between Shoreham-by-Sea and Southwick stations - also a small segment of Shoreham Harbour as well.
Hey Geoff, I got my southern daysave ticket today on the 30th which is a Saturday because there are no restrictions on that day so i can start Early at around 7 in the morning.
You can buy this ticket in a shop, one stop travel in north street, Brighton.
I've been using this ticket for over a decade. It used to cost £11 then.
Thameslink also had a similar ticket.
In Poland for 81 zł (~15£). You have whole weekend ticket (even long weekends). That allows You to travel the whole PKP network for 2 days (Polish national railway company)
If you'd carried on panning left with the train on that last shot you'd have seen my house!
Andrew Bantock if only he knew back then, he could have come in for some tea
“The Pevensey Bay Disaster” is familiar to Goon Show fans and came to mind at once...
markiangooley ...and Spike Milligan is buried in Winchelsea!
@@torchris1 He told us he was ill.
@@torchris1 Isn't that spelled Milligna? The world's most famous typing error? Goon but not forgotten.
Geoff also missed becoming a victim of The Dreaded Batter Pudding Hurler of Bexhill-on-Sea.
I had a great day on one of these on a Saturday in early February travelling on lines I hadn't done before and old favourites such as the Brighton Line. An excellent ticket and no time restrictions at weekends and on Bank Holidays.
They have had this ticket for a few years now. When I used to commute from Newhaven to Vic in 2014 they did a 7 day daysaver for about eighty something quid with no time restrictions so I saved about 25 quid a week on the cost of a weekly to London!
This ticket has been around for years... I 1st used it in 2010/2011.. That was when it was £10 Haywards Heath and South of that. A Full Network Day Save use to be £12.50.
Restriction used to be Purchase 48hrs in advance. After 10am M-F. No Restrictions Sat,Sun & Bank Holidays..
Good video as always Geoff thanks 👍
"...theres a big pile of garbage there now."
Nothings changes Goeoff, nothings changed...
Winchelsea is a medieval planned town laid out on a rectangular grid. It is a beautiful little town, too bad you didn't get to see it. The 20 minute walk to the town takes you past farms with farm animals in the pastures. Very pleasant....at least it was 35 years ago.
The Ghost train still runs twice a day but instead of shunting via the top of branch down towards Seaford
As a single ticket from London to Shoreham can cost more that £20, this may be a cheaper way to make that journey. (Although I do usually just buy a return from shoreham and discard the outbound bit as a return is cheaper than a single).
Love the fact you were in Shoreham-by-Sea
Why do the people who work out fares think we are stupid?
Yes. I know Goring station well. Use that when I went to college around there. Back when Network SouthCentral operated services (just before Connex South Central took over) with 'slam door' trains! That's shows you that it was quite a while ago! PS 2:18 Your postman (or Postwoman) must be very punctual Geoff for that shot to work so well!
About 10 years ago that ticket cost only £10, used it to go to Gaugemaster's at Ford.
Another great video! Thank you for telling us about this ticket. I might buy one myself for a 313 bash!
I did this last week to cover some unusual lines for myself. Really worth the money tbh, gotta say - hardly any of the guards had heard of it!
well done Geoff, another interesting video. I was hoping to trip you up by saying you hadn't visited Bexhill-On-Sea Station but although scrolling through about a hundred photo's I couldn't find one name-plate saying 'Bexhill-On-Sea. It was just Bexhill. The closest I could get was a Br. Rail poster saying 'visit Bexhill-On-Sea'.
My old stamping grounds living in Bexhill-on-SEA and working in Eastbourne. Could not use the train due to schedules though and I loved driving the back road from Cooden to Pevency Bay. I am sure Bexhill used to be on SEA. You could set your watch by hearing the 1001 thumper going through Bexhill-on-SEA at 5 to the hour, every hour.
Thanks for this. Will remember next time holidaying or visiting family
I went to Bournemouth with it. Years and years ago. And it was £10! SouthCentral at that time. Thameslink used to have it. And it was cheaper to use that day save from Brighton to Luton than normal cheap day rtn. And they were on sale at tourist offices.
In my local newspaper there is a promotion allowing you unlimited travel on Northern Rail for just £10. You have to collect a certain number of vouchers in a local paper and collect the tickets from a local railway station where northern trains serve.
I have an annual season from Pevensey Bay to Pevensey and Westham. Not been there since 1974.
"Summer is still here" - not any more, it isn't! Rain rain rain.
I love your videos, Geoff.
Winchelsea - these one of these on my old home town line, it used to be somewhat interesting because that's where the Up and Down train's would cross - single platform on the main line and the down would reverse back past the point's, go onto the loop and wait for the Up to come in and clear the block.
I absolutely love your videos 💯🤟💎😎
Now that's an idea for next summer!
Buy one of these coupled with two cheap Birmingham-London tickets (LNWR there, Chiltern back) and then get a Victoria-Portsmouth via Arundel train to Chichester (I did the line beyond there to Portsmouth many years ago, when a member of the Great Rail Club!) then head along the coast, including branches to Hastings, then back to Victoria!
Should be fun!
Its Pevensey and Westham, that's west as in compass direction and with ham rhyming with spam, born and lived here 55 years, apart from that another great video.
You missed Fishbourne and Fishersgate. Both sea related and both named such because of the sea!
Geoff should make a special video visiting Fishbourne, Fishersgate (interesting stations in their own right) and possibly Portslade to fully complete the sea-related set! :D
Oh, you also missed Battersea Park! If you're going to include Winchelsea ;)
And newHAVEN town.
@@djedg10 If he includes Southern stations on southwestern railway trains, he has enough sea related places for a full sequel/second day at the beach!
Those are Nautical stations in a way.
Why does it feel so weird your doing a video so close to me. Sad you didn't stop at my town tho (Eastbourne) :-(. Still a very good video Geoff
I was at Newhaven Ferry Port in August, and I saw them working on the level crossing. They must have been in the process of removing it...
If you're ever in Brighton again, we can have a look at the old Kemptown railway. Closed finally in the early 70s, but a lot of "evidence" it was there still stands, including the tunnel that runs underneath one of the biggest hills in Brighton. Let me know
No restrictions on times at Weekends. #AllTheRailReplacmentBuses
Great video mate 😊
it is however on BR FARES website, type in east croydon and any southern train and it works showing the prices
2:20 really reminds me of something Jay Foreman would do.
It was worth a like for the postman gag alone.
Used to buy this ticket all the time when I lived in Brighton 2009/11 from a travel agents at the bottom of St James'a Street on the Old Stein. Surprised to see that the price is £20, which is the same price it was back then.
I forgot about these tickets thanks for reminding me.
Very interesting. Might use this for a trip down to Brighton...
5:05 a guard on a southern train! Wow
Excellent video publicising this type of ticket!!!
Sadly though as explained you have to go looking for them and each company seem to have take on such tickets. Southern appear to cover all routes, yet Northern splits their route network into areas and don't appear to have an all Northern Route ticket.
Typo alert!!!! '... each company seem to have take on such ticket.' Should read '... each company seem to have their own take on such tickets.'
There are also afternoon peak restrictions from 16.15 to 19.15 Monday to Friday, the wording of which in the restrictions is, in my mind, a little ambiguous.
I notice the siding into Newhaven Marine had a bar across with a red lamp which rather indicates it isnt used anymore. Of course, its raison d'etre, as a boat train terminus, rather declined in the 60s (due to RoRo ferries) and furthermore when they opened the Chunnel. Quai Henri IV in Dieppe disappeared many moons ago along with the fast rail link to Paris.
So heres a thought - how many former Boat Train terminii still exist? (Littlehampton for one). Another thing station wise from your video - whats the remotest station from the town its supposed to serve. ?
Somehow he makes the most mundane stations feel a little bit glamorous
Michael Turner so true
5:25I I remember that video! The guy on the phone being really non-committal about there being any trains at all
All The Stations , before All The Stations
Bought a few of these Daysaver tickets. Great value tickets
It's a fabulous little ticket. You can travel all day on Saturday and Sunday.
Littlehampton & Bognor Regis Stations are close to the Beaches and Sea..
Mm enjoyable and of course now in 2022 the early train stock shown (class 313) is officially the oldest still in regular use on National Rail and must soon be up for replacement.(Only the Bakerloo 1973 tube stock, still trundling on, is older!!) Best wishes.
When you run out of stations with sea in the names, will you start on the bees?
Zoom forward to today (1st October) and we have severe rain and thunder.
Hooray!
If you wanted to fill your head with c-words you should have alighted at Fishersgate or Southwick. Plenty to be heard around those parts.
Also Portslade
I have a beach house in Norman’s bay my favourite part is the level crossings
I see you travelled from Brighton to Seaford. Did you know you can travel from Brighton (or Hove) to Seaford on a direct train in Adelaide, Australia? the big difference is whilst Seaford station, in England opened in 1864, Seaford Station in Adelaide (also a terminus) opened in February 2014, some 150 years later. Its also on the coast.
I didn't even know about this ticket Im going to do this one day
Pevensey and Westham - nice pronunciation. :) Even some locals get it wrong and make it sound like the football team.
The ticket is not mentioned on the ranger/rover page, but it is mentioned on the list of available ticket types: www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/prbd690bc35ce74100a7ae34c3df5fff.aspx
Turns out you can buy them in-person at: Eastbourne, Lewes, Hastings and Seaford.