Thank goodness the adults are driving the country now , I’m optimistic again , Willie Jackson is a disgrace, we need to rebuild this nation not continue to destroy it
So where the hell are ALL the MPs - why is the Chamber EMPTY???? I don't know what we are paying all these MPs to do???? SHAME SHAME SHAME - DO YOUR JOB - YOU GO ON ABOUT TRUANCY AT SCHOOLS???? LOOK AT THE TRUANCY OF MPs!!!!!
not very often will you find a full house in parliament often they are out doing what they are being paid for, minister for education talking with the ministry of education etc etc etc.
A clear indication the understanding of how parliament operates has limited uptake amongst those who would assert to be informed voters. Shows why in democratic politics and activism, scum floats. People's choice.
Would have been nice if Winnie didn't have the provincial slush fund a few years back where he lined his mates pockets and that money was instead used to improve water assets....
Upper Hutt has hundreds of new homes being built at current with zero future sight of putting water tanks in to capture rain water. It should be regulation for new-builds to have this basic rule in place. Infuriating. Wayne Guppy is a dinosaur with archaic methods - he has failed my city and needs to go.
It's like NZ first supporters have forgotten about the provincial slush fund that winnie used to line his mates pockets with tax payer money... would have been nice to use that for improved water infrastructure rather than paying hundreds of dollars to plant a single tree
That cheap coming from the pakehaaaa it wasnt maori fault the pakehaaaaaa run organisation who been In charge of the infrastructure turn to shit but you notice the contractors or run by pakehaaa have been back handing the council men for years but hey it OK for pakehaaaa to rip the system but yet you suspect maori to do it the biggest scammers are pakehaaaa prove me wrong
That cheap coming from pakehaaaa it not Maori that been in charge of the infrastructure but it OK for the elected pakehaaaa to rip the system but you automatically think maori would do it when we all know the biggest scammers in history have been pakehaaaa
Deleting comments are we rubbishing Māori but the facts are these council and organisation have and still are run by greedy pakehaaaa it not Māori run contractors getting fat from giving out back handers to council men of the past
Pretty good speech. Two things many people don't like: centralisation of control, instead of where it is needed; and special privileges and control given to a group based on race. That's why Labour has failed so badly.
Perhaps if councils spent more time and money on important things, rather than things that are nice, but not necessary. As an Aucklander, I am surprised to learn that more people don't have water meters.
@@rangisullivan1591 No problem - everybody understands him, including you. If Winston wants to speak te reo, he obviously can, but he's chosen to be understood by most, not just a few, which is fairly important in his line of work, I guess. BTW, your English needs a bit of work. Feel free to come back and join the grown ups at any time, but be careful with that spoon in case your porridge goes a bit sticky!
@@stuartdouce it makes no sense although they blue the budget big time on our new town hall that no one wanted the mayor is a lefty that hates this government so just wanted to make the rest of clutha hate them aswell
This former mayor of Wellington headed an organisations which has not done a good job. The PM indosed the failure of Wellington Water set up. So in term this means this MP.
No that is not the key point................We those who dont standunder know just waits going on here. Water is our god give right. Never pay any corporate body for it.
Why is all the storm water waisted ??? When a subdivision goes in pipe the water to a dam ,then use it for cleaning and watering plants not out to sea.
Also time to hold reserve bank gang of criminals accountable for the damage they have done to people and their economy while reserve bank and business leaders who made record high profits are blaming and punishing people.
B S scale of economy is always better ie super market vs corner store scenario. Co operatives work .the down side is councils get voted in and out every three years like governments,idealology is the handbrake on progress and the cause of conflicts at the moment we have a donald trump situation tear it all down,there are good bits of legislation that can capitalised on
We are all Taxpayer's we will in time all households will pay water rates Rent goes up will pay for landlords H2O rates Nothing is for free reality we are duped by blah blah thankful to NZFIRST 2024
The mayor in Otago said rates will pay more under the new governments ideas. How will it work if councils pull out of joint organizations' councils form? Debt and assets not historical linked.
successive National-led governments have said the same things for decades: they promised government fiscal discipline, low government debt and minimal regulation would transform us into a high productivity, high wage, sophisticated economy. They've failed repeatedly...rinse and repeat.
Yep what a pathetic character. Over all his years on the council ,not one mention of pipes and water though he is not the only one. Actually he did stand out on what was called the ASB stadium and wanted it to be built in the Rail area which made sense. .What an irony he goes on about water rather than being in Shelly Bay putting up tents and be conflicted from the donors to get him there.
2:21 the guy talks bollocks, its the costs on councils, without leverage, that will increase hance rates rises. Many of the councils that opposed 3 waters are now squealing that rates rises are going to be monstrous. The campaign against 3 waters saying that it would rob councils of assets was dumb. When did control of drinking water, sewage, stormwater bring in any money? They are and were liabilities. Typical national (and allies), do nothing policies. Clueless. And we have people drinkinking tainted water, swimming in sewage and getting flooded.
The provision of those services is not supposed to be a money-making exercise! RATES pay for the provision of those services. And councils are SUPPOSED to manage their books properly so that a portion of rates is used to maintain or replace assets....putting it extremely simply. Where from and why on earth do you get the view that water is supposed to be profit-making? Where would those profits go? Or, to whom!?! Hmm? I've never had tainted drinking water from a tap in my 55yrs in NZ. I've never swum in sewage - and ummm...getting flooded tends for the most-part to be an act of god thing...though there can be extenuating circumstances that organisations or people may be responsible for.
@@angge4261 they arent supposed tobe profit making, and arent, thats my point about all the opposition to 3 waters claiming it was stealing assets, when in fact it was taking over liabilities that were being poorly managed. You may not have been poisoned by tap water or swam in sewage but plenty have.
@@kiwiG333 but its the local decisionmaking that have screwed things up. Better a nody looking after these critical services that are expert, can apply standards, and isnt a post code lottery.
Yeah, dominated by all those lefties; couldn't get anything done for the shenanigans! And now, with the new mayor with the memory and drinking problems, it's even WORSE!!
Labour's plan to amalgamate the country's drinking water, wastewater and stormwater assets was based in deeply flawed ideology. The lack of democratic accountability in the proposed model was of concern. It was unclear how communities would have a voice in, let alone have influence over, decisions in the proposed system, as there was no guarantee of representation on the new entity. This lack of accountability to local communities was greatly exacerbated by the unfairness of the 50-50 partnership model. Fifty per cent representation would be accountable to the ratepayers or users - the people who have contributed 100%, the other 50% would not be accountable to this group. Instead, they were going to be accountable under a kaupapa Māori model, thereby giving 16% of the population a grossly disproportionate influence over our national water assets. As the proposal deprived local authorities of all the rights of ownership, this “ownership” was a fiction, it was spin. Listing in the legislation does not confer ownership if it does not confer ownership rights. At one point, polling had shown 74% of people are against 3 Waters. Imagine if $1.2billion had gone to Wellington for example instead of consulting, management and setting up 3 Waters. We do not need 3 Waters, we need a funding model that is accessible and lead by experts.
Thank goodness the adults are driving the country now , I’m optimistic again , Willie Jackson is a disgrace, we need to rebuild this nation not continue to destroy it
So where the hell are ALL the MPs - why is the Chamber EMPTY???? I don't know what we are paying all these MPs to do???? SHAME SHAME SHAME - DO YOUR JOB - YOU GO ON ABOUT TRUANCY AT SCHOOLS???? LOOK AT THE TRUANCY OF MPs!!!!!
not very often will you find a full house in parliament often they are out doing what they are being paid for, minister for education talking with the ministry of education etc etc etc.
A clear indication the understanding of how parliament operates has limited uptake amongst those who would assert to be informed voters.
Shows why in democratic politics and activism, scum floats. People's choice.
It’s because Andy Foster is speaking
Well said Andy, so proud you are a NZ First Cactus member. Keep up the great work
Would have been nice if Winnie didn't have the provincial slush fund a few years back where he lined his mates pockets and that money was instead used to improve water assets....
Why on earth don't people have their own water tanks off their house roofs and garages? Then the councils water can be used as backup in a drought.
It's actually surprisingly cheap to do. Then you have guaranteed supply if you manage it correctly. Seems like a no brainer to me
That's what most people used to do..we all had water tanks back in the 60s & 70s.. nothing better than rain 🌧️ water.
That's all I've had from a kid in the 60s till present, only difference is it is through a filter now
Upper Hutt has hundreds of new homes being built at current with zero future sight of putting water tanks in to capture rain water. It should be regulation for new-builds to have this basic rule in place. Infuriating. Wayne Guppy is a dinosaur with archaic methods - he has failed my city and needs to go.
Because the greens bullshit about climate and saving the planet...are just so full of shit ....every house in nz should have solar and water tanks
This was a fabulous contribution in the house.
Speaks well.
Poor Willie....what an idiot...he should go away now.
Absolutely.
Jail for Willie and JT😊
It's like NZ first supporters have forgotten about the provincial slush fund that winnie used to line his mates pockets with tax payer money... would have been nice to use that for improved water infrastructure rather than paying hundreds of dollars to plant a single tree
@@dsndicmsa7141 Proof
Yes. Go away Willie and look after your kumara patch.😅
Nicely done Mr Foster 👍
Excellent speech.....well researched...trust Willy Jackson putting his 10 cents worth of racist rubbish.....
Silly Jackson is an embarrassment to the majority of Maori ...
Ha! When he was mayor of Wellington. It was a different story.
The unelected Maaaaari Mafia tried to do the rip
That cheap coming from the pakehaaaa it wasnt maori fault the pakehaaaaaa run organisation who been In charge of the infrastructure turn to shit but you notice the contractors or run by pakehaaa have been back handing the council men for years but hey it OK for pakehaaaa to rip the system but yet you suspect maori to do it the biggest scammers are pakehaaaa prove me wrong
That cheap coming from pakehaaaa it not Maori that been in charge of the infrastructure but it OK for the elected pakehaaaa to rip the system but you automatically think maori would do it when we all know the biggest scammers in history have been pakehaaaa
Been on a couple of jury's in my time.lives and Futures were at stake,I was selected not elected.chur bro long live hypocrisy
I sat on 4 juries in my time to judge what people's future may be,I was selected not elected by erudite (educated people)
Deleting comments are we rubbishing Māori but the facts are these council and organisation have and still are run by greedy pakehaaaa it not Māori run contractors getting fat from giving out back handers to council men of the past
Pretty good speech. Two things many people don't like: centralisation of control, instead of where it is needed; and special privileges and control given to a group based on race. That's why Labour has failed so badly.
Hear hear
Willie Jackoffson
Wonka.
A career of snout in trough
Corruption 101😮
Keep up the good work. We'll done and wiĺie you had your chance and you -ucked it up its now time to shut up and let real people sort it out. Please
Such a great speech!
Perhaps if councils spent more time and money on important things, rather than things that are nice, but not necessary. As an Aucklander, I am surprised to learn that more people don't have water meters.
Perhaps if winnie didn't blow a massive amount of tax payer dollars with the provincial slush fund
Im way more Maori then Jackson whether its tikanga,kawa or reo .... His own tupuna would be appalled
Winston is maori,he thinks he's a packy haa
@@rangisullivan1591 He's both - like you!
Have a go bei I WILL whakapapa you back to my big toe stfu
@daedalus7677 I know I am I speak te reo for maori side and English for my Celtics side.winstone only lectures in english?!!!?
@@rangisullivan1591 No problem - everybody understands him, including you. If Winston wants to speak te reo, he obviously can, but he's chosen to be understood by most, not just a few, which is fairly important in his line of work, I guess. BTW, your English needs a bit of work. Feel free to come back and join the grown ups at any time, but be careful with that spoon in case your porridge goes a bit sticky!
Continuing to be chuffed with my vote for Peters, and NZF.
Water tanks for all homes 😅, clean rain water, can't beat it
Seems Jackson forgets about the Roastbusters
Seems NZ first supporters forget about the provincial slush fund
Anything that got willie jackson name on it is bad for me as a maori . And evil for the rest . BEWARE Of him .😮
Thank you ! Well said
If you look at the picture at 3.55 there is almost no one in the whole house. Where are they all?
worse in Canberra
Wasting taxpayers money
At the beach
Clutha district council r putting our rates up 25% per year for the nxt 3 years blaming this government for cancelling 3 waters.we r screwed down here
yr rates would go up even more with 3w as you would also be paying for the rest of the countries water upgrades as well with your annual 3w bill.
@@stuartdouce it makes no sense although they blue the budget big time on our new town hall that no one wanted the mayor is a lefty that hates this government so just wanted to make the rest of clutha hate them aswell
This former mayor of Wellington headed an organisations which has not done a good job. The PM indosed the failure of Wellington Water set up. So in term this means this MP.
No that is not the key point................We those who dont standunder know just waits going on here. Water is our god give right. Never pay any corporate body for it.
This list MP said it was diffucult to collect fees through 3rd party. Auckland regional Council did this for more than 30 years.
It is only deeply unpopular and divisive to the uneducated.
Why is all the storm water waisted ??? When a subdivision goes in pipe the water to a dam ,then use it for cleaning and watering plants not out to sea.
Willy wonker is losing it,😂 music to my ears
Is Willie the Maori name for Richard ?
Willie.not maori word has l in it.dick might be more appropriate. Chur bro
Yup 😂
Jackson means head
Mate, can't take credit when nothing's been achieved. Ppffft, meanwhile " _Drip drip drip "
Wasn't he the Mayor of Wellington from 2019 to 2022?
*looks at Wellington's water worries*
Nope, nothing to see there!
Also time to hold reserve bank gang of criminals accountable for the damage they have done to people and their economy while reserve bank and business leaders who made record high profits are blaming and punishing people.
B S scale of economy is always better ie super market vs corner store scenario. Co operatives work .the down side is councils get voted in and out every three years like governments,idealology is the handbrake on progress and the cause of conflicts at the moment we have a donald trump situation tear it all down,there are good bits of legislation that can capitalised on
We are all Taxpayer's we will in time all households will pay water rates Rent goes up will pay for landlords H2O rates Nothing is for free reality we are duped by blah blah thankful to NZFIRST 2024
Wellington Council needs billion a year Ratepayers to pay
This speech is being spoken during ugency but 60 plus governments are absent from work .
House water tanks
We need Ruth Richardson
The mayor in Otago said rates will pay more under the new governments ideas.
How will it work if councils pull out of joint organizations' councils form? Debt and assets not historical linked.
successive National-led governments have said the same things for decades: they promised government fiscal discipline, low government debt and minimal regulation would transform us into a high productivity, high wage, sophisticated economy. They've failed repeatedly...rinse and repeat.
The muppet show
Hahaha! Willie - a muppet! I like it!!
Foster the guy whose only claim whilst Mayor was to be in Peter Jaksons pocket.
Yep what a pathetic character. Over all his years on the council ,not one mention of pipes and water though he is not the only one. Actually he did stand out on what was called the ASB stadium and wanted it to be built in the Rail area which made sense. .What an irony he goes on about water rather than being in Shelly Bay putting up tents and be conflicted from the donors to get him there.
2:21 the guy talks bollocks, its the costs on councils, without leverage, that will increase hance rates rises. Many of the councils that opposed 3 waters are now squealing that rates rises are going to be monstrous. The campaign against 3 waters saying that it would rob councils of assets was dumb. When did control of drinking water, sewage, stormwater bring in any money? They are and were liabilities. Typical national (and allies), do nothing policies. Clueless. And we have people drinkinking tainted water, swimming in sewage and getting flooded.
The provision of those services is not supposed to be a money-making exercise! RATES pay for the provision of those services. And councils are SUPPOSED to manage their books properly so that a portion of rates is used to maintain or replace assets....putting it extremely simply. Where from and why on earth do you get the view that water is supposed to be profit-making? Where would those profits go? Or, to whom!?! Hmm? I've never had tainted drinking water from a tap in my 55yrs in NZ. I've never swum in sewage - and ummm...getting flooded tends for the most-part to be an act of god thing...though there can be extenuating circumstances that organisations or people may be responsible for.
@@angge4261 they arent supposed tobe profit making, and arent, thats my point about all the opposition to 3 waters claiming it was stealing assets, when in fact it was taking over liabilities that were being poorly managed. You may not have been poisoned by tap water or swam in sewage but plenty have.
@@kiwiG333 but its the local decisionmaking that have screwed things up. Better a nody looking after these critical services that are expert, can apply standards, and isnt a post code lottery.
......are still clueless because you didn't finish your last sentence!!
Pretty easy putting all the cost on ratepayers when you're not the mayor anymore
ALL TALK HOW MANY YEARS WERE YOU IN THE DYSFUNCTIONAL WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL?
Yeah, dominated by all those lefties; couldn't get anything done for the shenanigans! And now, with the new mayor with the memory and drinking problems, it's even WORSE!!
Peters puppet we have co govt and three waters in Hawkes Bay and it works very well, your bad advice stick it where the sun dont shine.
Labour's plan to amalgamate the country's drinking water, wastewater and stormwater assets was based in deeply flawed ideology. The lack of democratic accountability in the proposed model was of concern. It was unclear how communities would have a voice in, let alone have influence over, decisions in the proposed system, as there was no guarantee of representation on the new entity.
This lack of accountability to local communities was greatly exacerbated by the unfairness of the 50-50 partnership model. Fifty per cent representation would be accountable to the ratepayers or users - the people who have contributed 100%, the other 50% would not be accountable to this group. Instead, they were going to be accountable under a kaupapa Māori model, thereby giving 16% of the population a grossly disproportionate influence over our national water assets.
As the proposal deprived local authorities of all the rights of ownership, this “ownership” was a fiction, it was spin. Listing in the legislation does not confer ownership if it does not confer ownership rights.
At one point, polling had shown 74% of people are against 3 Waters. Imagine if $1.2billion had gone to Wellington for example instead of consulting, management and setting up 3 Waters.
We do not need 3 Waters, we need a funding model that is accessible and lead by experts.
Too bad the people of NZ don't want it
😂
@@charleswalker2484isn't Havelock North in the Hawke's Bay......
@@charleswalker2484tasty water in Havelock North I hear
rate increases or tax increases... its the same. We have to pay for the investment some how.