I was just complaining to Jamie Mallender about the limitations of some of the other drum machines out there, listing what each one is missing. This looks like it’s got everything plus Christmas morning!!! I’m just an iOS music noob, but I’m still looking for my drum machine home, and this may be it! Thanks, Paul for, once again, giving the people what they need!
Just purchased DS2. The interface improvements alone are worth the price. So much easier to edit/tweak sounds. Thanks Paul for all the hard work. PS: Loving Helium more every day
You cannot modify the default bank, instead switch to the USER bank to start off and create a new preset there. To add a sample you can either use drag and drop of samples directly to the pads, or long press a pad and pick one of the import options. If you tap the menu (next toi the power button) you will see a user manual at the bottom of the menu.
Just purchased DS2, and I plan to grab samples from my Yamaha Montage 7 with the sample grab tool. This app that you have made is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I plan to purchase upgrades as you develop them. Totally worth the money. Thank you!!
Thanks John, take a look into the auto sampling feature.... you can conntect directly to your MONTAGE and automatically capture a whole drumkit (or at least 64 samples) with little effort. I did a video on this somewhere...lol
This looks like THE ONE that I can REALLY work with…..can’t wait!!! Thanks Paul, and thanks to 4Pockets! I believe we may have an overall winner in the “drums” category…..if it’s bug free! 🙏👍🙂
The Developer, Dear Respected Paul, have long crossed the threshold of a human being. He’s become someone much, much more greater than these puny little selfish creatures called humans. I pay my deepest and heartfelt gratitude and respect and admiration to you, Sensei! Thank you, thank you for being an super amazing inspiration. @Paul the MusicMan #Paul the MusicMan
@@PaultheMusicMan I’m working on EP right now, I had to completely abandon doing music and left music for good, you might say forced to, 8 years ago. I threw everything away, the Les Paul, my gears, studio everything. Stopped listening to music, got myself completely detached from music. But something happened to me a few months back, I saw Chris Cornell and Kurt Cobain, in dream, they’re scolding me like hell, told me to go back and get my gears, finish the task, and then to meet them. If IOS doesn’t exist it wouldn’t have been possible for me to cross that bridge. And I remember after falling in love with Cubasis , the first app I bought was from the developer called 4pockets. I didn’t know who was Paul then, I saw his videos, captivated by his videos, voice, I found an immense passion and inspiration from him. Thank you. There’s a very high chance we would be able to meet someday, but we will meet, in the other side. I’ll be there first, you do and complete all the things in your hands, and meet me after 120 years later. Thank you for being a kind soul, amazing person. You’re someone I truly admire and love. Dont know why, can’t even explain. Stay well, put out more videos. Love from a puny little fanboy of the Great Paul, The Great Legend of the first wave of the IOS music scene.
@Paul the MusicMan I’d like to add a few more words, most of the people buying your apps doesn’t have the slightest idea about the hard work you’ve into into developing them. What saddens me the most is some of them even don’t have the capacity to use those apps. Just saw some of the reviews , they are so unfair. As an humble little musician, I’d like to request you for one thing. Would you please kindly develop a Neve eq emulation and one SSL channel strip emulation. There haven’t been any single apps produced on these hardwares. Also, I’m being a little selfish here, if you could develop a La2a compressor for the iOS platform. I’d just die out of sheer joy if you kindly produce those hardware based emulations. Thank you for the works you’ve done. I convey my deepest gratitude and respect!
@@Punk_Mayhem I know exactly what you mean by loosing the passion for music making, but thankfully for me I throw myself into developing apps. We loose so many great musicians way too young, either because they get too close to the truth (Chris Cornell), or simply tired of life. Whatever the reason we never stop appreciating their music as this is what remains long after they are gone. Thanks again for the support, it truly means a lot after having such a bad year myself. Merry Christmas mate.
This is a great drum app with enough simplicity that a dabbler like me can just jump in and start using it and get results, but for more advanced users, there are layers of features to explore (the videos explain it well). I have a few drum apps and this one frequently pops up in my workflow.
Thanks Paul for the video - purchase was a no brainer since being a long time user of Digistix and many other 4Pockets apps. If I may be so bold to put an item on the wish-list, it would be a little window that displays the song currently loaded that would remain there even after closing app and re-load. I know there is a notes section for each song but....
So what you want is to see the name of the loaded song at all times? I will add this to my list, although I personally don't think a perminent floating window is the solution. I think many would find this annoying so I would need to come up with another solution.
@@PaultheMusicMan hmmm, not a programmer so I don’t know if window was the correct term and comparing original Digistix to Digistix 2 again today, there’d be room beside mixer bank selector on the latter but really no room in the interface on the original. Perhaps, there is some way to have the original checkmark for chosen song that is loaded just remain in place until a different one is chosen, even upon reloading host app ? Please forgive my grammar. Then again, I really ought to just utilize the notes section more often 🤔
@@Teo22athome Maybe I can use the space on the far right of the interface where the 4Pockets logo is to display Kit/Song information. This area remains fixed throughout a session as it doesn't scroll?
Hi! Looks to have a great set of features.! I have a few Q's, if I may: - Do the included kits have multiple velocity layers? - Does the sequencer allow more than 16 steps? - Does the sequencer have swing functionality? - What is the max time limit for a sample on each pad? - What formats are supported for the samples? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks :)
Since some of the GM kits are pretty large I didn't include multiple velocity layers, but the auto sample feature makes it very easy to make your own kits. You can have up to 64 steps per sequence.There is 1/4 and 1/8 swing options. I think the time limit is at least 120 seconds per sample I believe. Most formats supported by iOS can be imported.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for the very prompt and thorough response. A big thumbs-up for the answers. It's clearly a very powerful piece of software. I would of course be looking to make my own deeper-sampled kits/banks. It's just a shame to not be able to take advantage of any of the included acoustic samples/kits (Drum machine sounds are less of an issue). And I completely understand that the whole thing would've become quite unwieldy if all the included sounds were deep and faithful recreations, but have you perhaps considered selling expansion packs with more deeply-sampled options? Thanks, again.
Love DS1 and all your other apps. Found your stuff via the sidechain app when it was just about the only option available offering that ability. I slap drum surgeon on just about everything, I’ve barely scratched the surface with NuRack as it keeps getting new updates, and more recently Helium has changed my entire workflow ... again. That’s a good thing, I think lol. Definitely picking this up right now while it’s on sale. I came from using Akai MPC software and it had the ability to so-called “offset” sample layers. Similar to adjusting the start point except it’s moving the start point into the negative, basically adding empty space or a short millisecond(s) time delay before the layer plays once the pad is triggered. I fell in love with this ability for blending kicks just right and making the kick and bass notes a little late even when quantized. Can bake a swingin’ groove right into the grid without adding swing or used in conjunction to give it even more of that personalized touch and humanized feel. I’ve only found one AUv3 that can do this on iOS called AUSampleDelay but it has various issues and can’t be used on individual pads let alone individual layers within a pad regardless of the drum app being used. Looks like I could do a workaround with DS2 using channels 9 and 10 or use multi-out to offset an entire pad thru AUSampleDelay but still have to deal with all their issues like never saving, resetting all the time, and a fidgety knob that’s impossible to set accurately and consistently. Also they measure the offset delay in samples per second rather than milliseconds which sends me running to a calculator to do math homework every time it’s reopened. Gonna grab this right now because it looks incredible with every other feature I could ask for and then some, just pretty please consider an “offset” type of ability sometime in the future if you think it’s doable and if time permits. I believe others would also find this invaluable even if they don’t know it yet lol. Thanks again, appreciate all your hard work.
@@PaultheMusicMan The sample delay works perfect! Really appreciate the update, sets this apart from everything else on the platform for me. Can’t thank you enough :)
Awesome! I feel another drum app video coming on - there are a lot of features here I’d thought would be nice in DS1 so can’t wait to get my paws on it!
"Auto Sample" is great and really easy to use 😊 Is it possible to set the midi channel of the midi data "Auto Sample" is sending to another channel than channel 1?
Great stuff. I have just started using the app and am finding good uses for it. Just one thing, I have noticed that the volume midi mapping for this app doesn't seem to work as well as I am sure it could. I am using it inside AUM. When mapped to a slider on my Novation Launchkey I find that at the lowest settting, audio can still be heard. Also, the volume seems to get very loud, very quickly. Just some feedback from an appreciative user.
The sliders are more of an attenuation of MIDI velocities (which cannot have 0 volume) than traditional audio volumes. I haven't noticed this issue myself and with my keyboards I can get extremely quiet hits, so maybe it's LaunchKey related. Does it have velocity curves?
@@PaultheMusicMan I am not sure as I am still new to iOS music making. All I can really say is that, when mapped to a fader or pot, the volume behaves slightly differently to other app volumes. For example, if mapped to a pot, turning the dial all the way to the left still allows a significant amount of sound through. And a slight turn to the right increases the volume dramatically.
Hi Paul, this is marvellous. Really really impressed and found this to be a great purchase. Late to the party, I know but is there a micro-timing or nudge for each step?
No sadly, this is the one thing I feel is missing. You can add delays to sample/pad but not per grid position. It might be better using your DAW rather than internal patterns if this is an issue.
Glad you went for a new version rather than making it a DS1 upgrade, we already get loads of nice free updates in your apps so it is a good opportunity to say thanks. Will the melodic remapping (where you spread the notes across pads) work across pad banks and/or will we be able to effectively have 4 different remapped pad sounds, one per pad bank?
Yes, you can use the Import Bank option to build a custom kit from multiple existing kits. This will preserve the layers. I have made a change to version 1.02 to allow the Assign option to copy all layers too.
Great work Paul, an interesting addition to the armoury. Is there a limit to the sample length that can be imported and if edited within the app can a sample be saved and used elsewhere?
Cheers... there is a 60 second sample limit although I could increase this if required. You can export a kit and get at the sample data that way, but no direct way to export just a sample. Could add one mind you.
General MIDI is the answer my friend, since each instrument is on a known key. It just sends a series of MIDI notes out to the hardware and recording what comes back. Since GM drums start at midi note 35 onwards it is a simple task of recording consecutive MIDI notes. Saying that it works just as well for none GM hardware.
Hi Mr Paul maybe I probably will repeat some ideas that users told you before but I will try to highlight this to you! In a perspective of a guitar player and singer and using your apps combined in AUM on a live performance I think could be very powerful to create some way of doing round robin fills when you change patterns you create! For example pattern 1 (verse) then you have possibilities to have fills to change for pattern 2 (chorus) etc…! Or maybe randomize a possible fill! This idea came because I think could be interesting to not create a backing track made by yourself but change as long you are performing! Hope I made myself understand! Have you think on this? ☺️
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Hey Paul, nice work on this one! I've noticed when playing long samples that the channel volume (on the top page) actually sets the volume factor for *newly* played samples but doesn't adjust the volume of the *currently playing* sample. Is it by design? Sure my usage of long samples is a little extravagant but it's fun to record bits of music and then make use of the random/round robin playing mode. I'd love if this random/round robin would make its way to Chameleon by the way :) Thanks again!
Yes. it was by design, but then I didn't really expect people to be manipulating this once samples are playing. I'd love to make Chameleon multi-sample, but the engine is used in other apps such as Evolver and DigiStix which are both able to utilize Chameleon patches so either I need to branch off and create a Chameleon 2 or all three apps need updating to support multi-layer. I knid of made a rod for my own back there. I am already thinking about it though.
Would be ver nice to have the sampler advanced. Im missing attack hold sustain normalize etc. length is adjustable but I guess its just like cut off? Is there any work around to get this feature maybe I havent found these features?
Since we are playing one shot samples in the main and not synthesizing the audio it makes made little sense to me to add hold or sustain. The normalize is part of the editor, along with fade in/ fade out etc. You can only adjust this on kits in the USER bank by tapping a pad and pressing Edit.
Just started playing. Really like the layout with the pads next to the sequencer. With the melodic remapping I’m used when playing pad interfaces for the lowest note in each pad bank to start in the bottom left of the grid rather than the top left. Would it be possible to have a toggle for this? Also, it would be nice to have the option of using one melodic mapping per pad bank rather than having the single sample stretched across all of the banks, though this itself is useful. You could then have, for example, a drum pad and 3 different synths. I guess we can do this another way by autosampling an instrument to each pad. Looking forward to getting stuck in today!
@@benashford1971 Thanks Ben, yes, I've been coming up with some great ideas to improve things, plus I'm planning to release a new tutorial today which exposes things that people may not know about the app.
I just purchased this and it seems good but I’m curious about why the default kits don’t align with standard chromatic midi notes from a 4x4 pad? For example, standard pad setup seems to be note 36 (C2) on pad 1 through note 51 (D#3) on pad 16. When using this mapping with DigiStix, pad one is skipped and pad 16 plays the first pad from bank 2. Seems to be offset by one note from standard. Is this an intentional design choice or do I have something misconfigured? I understand I can midi learn each pad, but just trying to figure out why it’s acting this way.
DigiStix has two mapping methods, the default and a reverse mapping that can be enabled by tapping the menu button and picking Reverse Pads. This is probably more like what you would expect on an MPC type layout. Failing that you have to map the kits yourself.
You have to add a MIDI track and add DigiStix to the MIDI track. Any outgoing MIDI can be recorded to the MIDI track, and the MIDI track can send notes to DIGISTIX to sound the pads.
The MIDI mappings are currently saved as part of the kit itself, as a GM kit will be mapped different from a DS kit. However, you could duplicate a kit and change the mappings I guess. I may add an option to save the mappings within the actual song in future versions.
I have used quite extensively the multilayer set up capability in the your first version. I had few other drawback at the time. the horizontal pads set up was y main issues : you checked that box. Thank you Do we have a 16 full screen display mode for finger drumming? Adding dynamic when figer drumming by faking velocity based on position of contact on the pad you hit (X or Y)? Lock the 16 pads area in order to prevent triggering accidentally a functionality? I own 15 of your apps.
@@yanndoray6308 There is already an option to lock the pads so that the pad menus are not displayed, or are you asking for something to prevent the pads from working if pressed?
Looks a really good app in many respects, but I'm desperately trying to find something that will do multi-layer per pad AND round robin for a realistic kit sound. It seems no-one has nailed this yet on iPad. Any chance?
This does do multi-layer round robin but you are limited to 5 layers per pad, and you have 64 pads per kit. DS2 also includes an auto sampler that can fire off MIDI notes and velocities to any MIDI instrument and record what comes back. Awesome for building new kits.
@@PaultheMusicMan If you were able to implement round robins at each velocity layer I think you'd be the only app to offer this. There's a massive demand for this feature if my Googling of the issue is anything to go by! It'd make Digistix viable as a pro-level drum sampler. The rest of it looks so good.
No, it has the various genre of kits but you have to program the patterns yourself. These patterns can then be pieced together into songs, but to be honest I'm not a good drummer.
@@PaultheMusicMan hello Paul, Atom and Atom2 were bundled so that existing users could pay a reduced amount in order to purchase the newer version. I have a few of your apps and love how the more I dig in the more I find. I’m not saying that you should bundle DigiStix and DigiStix2, I just noticed that you may not have been aware of this approach. 👍
Since I haven't changed anything pattern related this could be a global session saving issue within AUM itself. I assume you are using AUM's ability to save the session rather than saving the song internally? I haven't had any other reports of issues so it may be worth saving the pattern as a song just so you have a backup. What version of iOS are you using?
I've been testing this issue myself and not been able to reproduce the issue yet. When you exit AUM it calls each AUv3 in turn for its session data, which is restored when AUM next loads and you chose to restore session. If AUM crashes or you chose not to load the saved session when launching AUM this data is lost. This is why you need to ensure you save a song file, just in case this happens. It only takes one plugin to fail and you loose everything. If you can give me any more details which will help me track it down I will take another look. In the meantime I will contact Jonatan (creator of AUM) to see if he has any ideas.
@@Bill_Saunders_Music Any chance you can record a short video showing this happening for me? Maybe it will help shine a light on what is going wrong. You can email me at info at 4pockets dot com with any video links etc.
Hey Paul, in AUV3 mode is Import from Documents available? If not, how can I add my own sample folders to DS2 and preview them in the DS2 browser before selection? Seems like I would have to create a kit of Kicks? Also, with longer samples can I set trigger mode to gate? It's seems like there is only 1Shot and Loop which a toggle and requires two notes in the sequencer for start and stop. With Tie notes I want to be able to gate long samples but I cant work out how to do it? Thanks
Swiping left on a PAD allows you to load samples from Documents with the ability to preview samples by simply tapping on them. Alternatively, TAP and HOLD a pad and pick Import from Documents. if you enable loop mode and retrigger, you can restart lengthy samples, but there is no gate mode as such.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for the prompt response. I can do the left swipe in standalone, but nothing happens in AUM (using User kit) Swiping in all other directions works.
@@SoundtempleMusic Yes, this is because an AUv3 cannot access the documents folder directly, even its own. The only way to load from this location as an AUv3 is by dragging and dropping samples from the Files App. There are so many restrictions to AUv3 apps, I was thinking of releasing a technical video for end users and developers to learn what can and can't be done in terms of storage and files access etc. I think people would get a lot of useful information from such a video.
@@PaultheMusicMan Yep, that would be useful. So, I think I'm better using Neon to store my sample library so I can edit, preview and then drag n drop to DS2 and other apps.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks Paul. It’s just when you have a basic song put together in DigiStix it would be useful to export to helium for editing as helium works to a lot higher resolution for creating a lot more complex rhythms.. Anyway can’t wait for it to reach the store.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks Paul. Just purchased it. Hopefully I’m the first to do so. I will have a play when I’m properly awake. I only got up to see if it had dropped yet. Have a great day my friend.
Since DigiStix is designed to be run as a plugin under your DAW it is the DAW that looks after master clock, not the plugin. So running under AUM it is possible to sync to a master clock for instance.
Hi, Any chance to get the option to map CC command in loopy pro or within the app to the "clear" the sequencer button? \ and for the "record" and "step" buttons? \ Undo the last action it is a must-have... it's really kills my workflow when I need to open the app and use my fingers making it impossible to make it my major drum app please your assistance- I offer myself as a beta user for this request
Expecting to be able to program drum machine patterns remotely is not a reasonable request. I don't really know of any other pattern based drum machine that allows this and for good reason. I have a massive list of suggestions for DS2 and when I get around to an update I will consider adding some of the suggested functionality, but honestly, I doubt anyone could program patterns without seeing the interface.
@@PaultheMusicMan Im working a lot with the interface open but the iPad is far away and I have lots of external devices that control everything via midi .. no even undo or clear pattern? if I misclick a pad I need to capture the right moment for it to come back in the sequence and use my fat fingers to delete it and then it doesn't delete it and makes an 8 times icon ...I really don't understand why you are saying that this essential midi function is not a reasonable request...I'm just raising a flag as a performer with technical knowledge
@@mctzr What might be essential for one person might not be an issue for others, so I always need to question whether others would benefit because I get hundreds of requests every day and it is impossible to implement them all. Like I say, show me another drum machine that allows remote programming of patterns? It is typicallly not something people expect, even if it is on the surface a good idea. I didn't dismiss your ideas, just said that your ideas will be considered.
I guess that depends on the listener and what genre they are after. In my opinion they are pretty good, but hey, you can easily record your own drum kits if you need to.
Hi I purchased the app few days ago and loving it. I have issues with midi mapping on the pads to my mini lunchpad mk3. When I reopen the app I see the mapping is reseted also when changing kits the mapping disappear and I nees remap all all over again as it won't recognize it automatically I tried to export and backup my midi assigned kit and restore it when this happens but with no luck the midi lerans on the pad ia not saved. Please assist.. This is most critical issues to the work flow Thanks
@@PaultheMusicMan Hi It did saved under song but when I switch to other kit it reset again.. and when i try to load the original kit it wont help.. only load the sonng again. There is no way to map it once as default for all kits and songs? Thanks
@@mctzr The mapping is saved also with the kits, but only if they are writable. Instead, create a new song as you should do each time you start a new AUM session, and the song and its settings will be loaded with the host when the AUM session is loaded. So it should be automatic.
@@PaultheMusicMan I see now yes. There is anyway to midi learn other functions other then pad assignments? Like the record button/ step /metronome? Thanks again
If you can route the MIDI to your edrums it will work, but it very much depends on what host application you are using as it needs to be loaded as an AUv3. It should be possible in AUM, but I'm not sure about or an expert on all hosts.
Why will it not work in GarageBand? I can use it just fine. What it the problem? Don't forget DigiStix is an instrument so don't try and load it as an effect.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for your reply. I tried both as input instrument to audio-recorder and as external track but it wont show up as audio unit extension nor inter app audio Would be so good if you could help me out
@@Earthvssuna Yeah, its a bug in iOS and happens more frequenctly than it should. It fails to register AUv3's at run time but a reboot forces registration of all plugins.
I was just complaining to Jamie Mallender about the limitations of some of the other drum machines out there, listing what each one is missing. This looks like it’s got everything plus Christmas morning!!! I’m just an iOS music noob, but I’m still looking for my drum machine home, and this may be it! Thanks, Paul for, once again, giving the people what they need!
Just purchased DS2. The interface improvements alone are worth the price. So much easier to edit/tweak sounds. Thanks Paul for all the hard work. PS: Loving Helium more every day
Thanks, this is great to hear!
You cannot modify the default bank, instead switch to the USER bank to start off and create a new preset there. To add a sample you can either use drag and drop of samples directly to the pads, or long press a pad and pick one of the import options. If you tap the menu (next toi the power button) you will see a user manual at the bottom of the menu.
Just purchased DS2, and I plan to grab samples from my Yamaha Montage 7 with the sample grab tool. This app that you have made is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I plan to purchase upgrades as you develop them. Totally worth the money. Thank you!!
Thanks John, take a look into the auto sampling feature.... you can conntect directly to your MONTAGE and automatically capture a whole drumkit (or at least 64 samples) with little effort. I did a video on this somewhere...lol
@@PaultheMusicMan I will look for it. How do you change the color of the channels, it looks very cool.
Never mind, I actually see that those colors are preset.
@@CaliforniaCreedence The colors are currently hard wired, but I have been toying with the idea of making them assignable in a future version.
This looks like THE ONE that I can REALLY work with…..can’t wait!!! Thanks Paul, and thanks to 4Pockets! I believe we may have an overall winner in the “drums” category…..if it’s bug free! 🙏👍🙂
The Developer, Dear Respected Paul, have long crossed the threshold of a human being. He’s become someone much, much more greater than these puny little selfish creatures called humans. I pay my deepest and heartfelt gratitude and respect and admiration to you, Sensei! Thank you, thank you for being an super amazing inspiration. @Paul the MusicMan #Paul the MusicMan
Thanks man, I appreciate the compliment. I loook forward to putting my super human powers to good use in 2023. Merry Xmas my friend.
@@PaultheMusicMan I’m working on EP right now, I had to completely abandon doing music and left music for good, you might say forced to, 8 years ago. I threw everything away, the Les Paul, my gears, studio everything. Stopped listening to music, got myself completely detached from music. But something happened to me a few months back, I saw Chris Cornell and Kurt Cobain, in dream, they’re scolding me like hell, told me to go back and get my gears, finish the task, and then to meet them. If IOS doesn’t exist it wouldn’t have been possible for me to cross that bridge. And I remember after falling in love with Cubasis , the first app I bought was from the developer called 4pockets. I didn’t know who was Paul then, I saw his videos, captivated by his videos, voice, I found an immense passion and inspiration from him. Thank you. There’s a very high chance we would be able to meet someday, but we will meet, in the other side. I’ll be there first, you do and complete all the things in your hands, and meet me after 120 years later. Thank you for being a kind soul, amazing person. You’re someone I truly admire and love. Dont know why, can’t even explain. Stay well, put out more videos. Love from a puny little fanboy of the Great Paul, The Great Legend of the first wave of the IOS music scene.
@Paul the MusicMan I’d like to add a few more words, most of the people buying your apps doesn’t have the slightest idea about the hard work you’ve into into developing them. What saddens me the most is some of them even don’t have the capacity to use those apps. Just saw some of the reviews , they are so unfair. As an humble little musician, I’d like to request you for one thing. Would you please kindly develop a Neve eq emulation and one SSL channel strip emulation. There haven’t been any single apps produced on these hardwares. Also, I’m being a little selfish here, if you could develop a La2a compressor for the iOS platform.
I’d just die out of sheer joy if you kindly produce those hardware based emulations. Thank you for the works you’ve done. I convey my deepest gratitude and respect!
@@Punk_Mayhem I know exactly what you mean by loosing the passion for music making, but thankfully for me I throw myself into developing apps. We loose so many great musicians way too young, either because they get too close to the truth (Chris Cornell), or simply tired of life. Whatever the reason we never stop appreciating their music as this is what remains long after they are gone. Thanks again for the support, it truly means a lot after having such a bad year myself. Merry Christmas mate.
Thanks again for a great video for this incredible app! So many musical possibilities and a real game changer in my opinion!!!
This is a great drum app with enough simplicity that a dabbler like me can just jump in and start using it and get results, but for more advanced users, there are layers of features to explore (the videos explain it well). I have a few drum apps and this one frequently pops up in my workflow.
Wow! Just incredible. Thanks Paul. Can’t wait for this one.🤘🏼
For looping this could be interesting... On my wishlist!
Thanks Paul looking forward to that in the app store .it look brilliant 👍
Thanks Paul for the video - purchase was a no brainer since being a long time user of Digistix and many other 4Pockets apps. If I may be so bold to put an item on the wish-list, it would be a little window that displays the song currently loaded that would remain there even after closing app and re-load. I know there is a notes section for each song but....
So what you want is to see the name of the loaded song at all times? I will add this to my list, although I personally don't think a perminent floating window is the solution. I think many would find this annoying so I would need to come up with another solution.
@@PaultheMusicMan hmmm, not a programmer so I don’t know if window was the correct term and comparing original Digistix to Digistix 2 again today, there’d be room beside mixer bank selector on the latter but really no room in the interface on the original. Perhaps, there is some way to have the original checkmark for chosen song that is loaded just remain in place until a different one is chosen, even upon reloading host app ? Please forgive my grammar.
Then again, I really ought to just utilize the notes section more often 🤔
@@Teo22athome Maybe I can use the space on the far right of the interface where the 4Pockets logo is to display Kit/Song information. This area remains fixed throughout a session as it doesn't scroll?
*yay* can't wait...😎 great work, paul 👍
Hi!
Looks to have a great set of features.! I have a few Q's, if I may:
- Do the included kits have multiple velocity layers?
- Does the sequencer allow more than 16 steps?
- Does the sequencer have swing functionality?
- What is the max time limit for a sample on each pad?
- What formats are supported for the samples?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks :)
Since some of the GM kits are pretty large I didn't include multiple velocity layers, but the auto sample feature makes it very easy to make your own kits. You can have up to 64 steps per sequence.There is 1/4 and 1/8 swing options. I think the time limit is at least 120 seconds per sample I believe. Most formats supported by iOS can be imported.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for the very prompt and thorough response. A big thumbs-up for the answers. It's clearly a very powerful piece of software.
I would of course be looking to make my own deeper-sampled kits/banks. It's just a shame to not be able to take advantage of any of the included acoustic samples/kits (Drum machine sounds are less of an issue). And I completely understand that the whole thing would've become quite unwieldy if all the included sounds were deep and faithful recreations, but have you perhaps considered selling expansion packs with more deeply-sampled options?
Thanks, again.
Amazing work! Thanks 🙂
Love DS1 and all your other apps. Found your stuff via the sidechain app when it was just about the only option available offering that ability. I slap drum surgeon on just about everything, I’ve barely scratched the surface with NuRack as it keeps getting new updates, and more recently Helium has changed my entire workflow ... again. That’s a good thing, I think lol. Definitely picking this up right now while it’s on sale.
I came from using Akai MPC software and it had the ability to so-called “offset” sample layers. Similar to adjusting the start point except it’s moving the start point into the negative, basically adding empty space or a short millisecond(s) time delay before the layer plays once the pad is triggered. I fell in love with this ability for blending kicks just right and making the kick and bass notes a little late even when quantized. Can bake a swingin’ groove right into the grid without adding swing or used in conjunction to give it even more of that personalized touch and humanized feel. I’ve only found one AUv3 that can do this on iOS called AUSampleDelay but it has various issues and can’t be used on individual pads let alone individual layers within a pad regardless of the drum app being used. Looks like I could do a workaround with DS2 using channels 9 and 10 or use multi-out to offset an entire pad thru AUSampleDelay but still have to deal with all their issues like never saving, resetting all the time, and a fidgety knob that’s impossible to set accurately and consistently. Also they measure the offset delay in samples per second rather than milliseconds which sends me running to a calculator to do math homework every time it’s reopened. Gonna grab this right now because it looks incredible with every other feature I could ask for and then some, just pretty please consider an “offset” type of ability sometime in the future if you think it’s doable and if time permits. I believe others would also find this invaluable even if they don’t know it yet lol. Thanks again, appreciate all your hard work.
This indeed sounds like a great idea so I will add it to my ever increasing list of updates. Thanks for the positive feedback man, I appreciate it.
That’d be amazing! Thanks for such swift response. This thing is a beast, plenty of new features to play with until then :D
@@PaultheMusicMan The sample delay works perfect! Really appreciate the update, sets this apart from everything else on the platform for me. Can’t thank you enough :)
@@Boback111 I'm happy it works as intended. I had fun playing with it myself, and can see it will be very useful for others too.
Oh nice that’s good to hear. Yeah I love it, and it’s right where I would have put it too lol, first place I checked. Works great!
Instant buy Man!
Paul, you never cease to amaze. (Consider a stereo to mono conversion for sampled kits? Auto sample doesn’t seem to have a mono setting.)
No, you are right, but an easy thing to add mate!
Wonderful 👍🏼 thank you very much Paul 😎great job 🐝🐝
Awesome! I feel another drum app video coming on - there are a lot of features here I’d thought would be nice in DS1 so can’t wait to get my paws on it!
Love this, can’t wait to buy it!
Nice, very nice. 👍🙏😎
you finally did it ..... exactly what I asked for .. full UI GRID
"Auto Sample" is great and really easy to use 😊
Is it possible to set the midi channel of the midi data "Auto Sample" is sending to another channel than channel 1?
I will add this to my list!!
@@PaultheMusicMan Can we mix time signatures between patterns I.e inserting a bar of 3/4 in a 4/4 song?
@@WyattLite-n-inn The time signature is stored with the pattern therefore a song can have a pattern in 4/4 followed by a pattern in 3/4 yes.
@@PaultheMusicMan Wow really? Thanks for responding . I think I’ll go buy it now along w digikeys.
Looks rather interesting! come a long way since we first discussed the need for an AUv3 drum machine.. 👍🏼 ios 12 I hope.... thanks paul...
Thought you had been quiet ima old skool sucker that puts 1 drum sound per channel very versatile and cool tho
Looks wonderful
Great stuff. I have just started using the app and am finding good uses for it. Just one thing, I have noticed that the volume midi mapping for this app doesn't seem to work as well as I am sure it could. I am using it inside AUM. When mapped to a slider on my Novation Launchkey I find that at the lowest settting, audio can still be heard. Also, the volume seems to get very loud, very quickly. Just some feedback from an appreciative user.
The sliders are more of an attenuation of MIDI velocities (which cannot have 0 volume) than traditional audio volumes. I haven't noticed this issue myself and with my keyboards I can get extremely quiet hits, so maybe it's LaunchKey related. Does it have velocity curves?
@@PaultheMusicMan I am not sure as I am still new to iOS music making. All I can really say is that, when mapped to a fader or pot, the volume behaves slightly differently to other app volumes. For example, if mapped to a pot, turning the dial all the way to the left still allows a significant amount of sound through. And a slight turn to the right increases the volume dramatically.
Now in store great.
Hi Paul, this is marvellous. Really really impressed and found this to be a great purchase. Late to the party, I know but is there a micro-timing or nudge for each step?
No sadly, this is the one thing I feel is missing. You can add delays to sample/pad but not per grid position. It might be better using your DAW rather than internal patterns if this is an issue.
Thanks and good to know. Cheers bud.
Hi Paul any chance you can make the controller Bars a different colour something lighter. Their not the easiest to see against the black background?
I will definately consider it. I did experiment with other colours but nothing quite looked right.
Glad you went for a new version rather than making it a DS1 upgrade, we already get loads of nice free updates in your apps so it is a good opportunity to say thanks.
Will the melodic remapping (where you spread the notes across pads) work across pad banks and/or will we be able to effectively have 4 different remapped pad sounds, one per pad bank?
Thanks mate, and yes the melodic remap will work across all banks.
Paul, is it possible to share and move multi-layer pads between and among various kits? Thank you.
Yes, you can use the Import Bank option to build a custom kit from multiple existing kits. This will preserve the layers. I have made a change to version 1.02 to allow the Assign option to copy all layers too.
Great work Paul, an interesting addition to the armoury. Is there a limit to the sample length that can be imported and if edited within the app can a sample be saved and used elsewhere?
Cheers... there is a 60 second sample limit although I could increase this if required. You can export a kit and get at the sample data that way, but no direct way to export just a sample. Could add one mind you.
Is that 60sec per sample or across the 64 possible pads?
@@ridart It's 60 seconds per pad.
As my niece would say: OMG!!
Thanks for the info.
It may become clearer later, but I don’t get the auto-sampling at all. If you don’t have to do anything, how does the app know which sounds to select?
General MIDI is the answer my friend, since each instrument is on a known key. It just sends a series of MIDI notes out to the hardware and recording what comes back. Since GM drums start at midi note 35 onwards it is a simple task of recording consecutive MIDI notes. Saying that it works just as well for none GM hardware.
Hi Mr Paul maybe I probably will repeat some ideas that users told you before but I will try to highlight this to you! In a perspective of a guitar player and singer and using your apps combined in AUM on a live performance I think could be very powerful to create some way of doing round robin fills when you change patterns you create! For example pattern 1 (verse) then you have possibilities to have fills to change for pattern 2 (chorus) etc…! Or maybe randomize a possible fill! This idea came because I think could be interesting to not create a backing track made by yourself but change as long you are performing! Hope I made myself understand! Have you think on this? ☺️
Hey Paul, nice work on this one! I've noticed when playing long samples that the channel volume (on the top page) actually sets the volume factor for *newly* played samples but doesn't adjust the volume of the *currently playing* sample. Is it by design? Sure my usage of long samples is a little extravagant but it's fun to record bits of music and then make use of the random/round robin playing mode. I'd love if this random/round robin would make its way to Chameleon by the way :) Thanks again!
Yes. it was by design, but then I didn't really expect people to be manipulating this once samples are playing. I'd love to make Chameleon multi-sample, but the engine is used in other apps such as Evolver and DigiStix which are both able to utilize Chameleon patches so either I need to branch off and create a Chameleon 2 or all three apps need updating to support multi-layer. I knid of made a rod for my own back there. I am already thinking about it though.
Would be ver nice to have the sampler advanced. Im missing attack hold sustain normalize etc. length is adjustable but I guess its just like cut off? Is there any work around to get this feature maybe I havent found these features?
Since we are playing one shot samples in the main and not synthesizing the audio it makes made little sense to me to add hold or sustain. The normalize is part of the editor, along with fade in/ fade out etc. You can only adjust this on kits in the USER bank by tapping a pad and pressing Edit.
This looks great! Will you also do multi-bus/outputs when using Cubasis?
it should already work just fine in Cubasis with multi-outs
Just started playing. Really like the layout with the pads next to the sequencer. With the melodic remapping I’m used when playing pad interfaces for the lowest note in each pad bank to start in the bottom left of the grid rather than the top left. Would it be possible to have a toggle for this?
Also, it would be nice to have the option of using one melodic mapping per pad bank rather than having the single sample stretched across all of the banks, though this itself is useful. You could then have, for example, a drum pad and 3 different synths. I guess we can do this another way by autosampling an instrument to each pad.
Looking forward to getting stuck in today!
Yes, I thought the same myself. I will look into this idea as its a damn good one!
Thanks for adding the per-pad bank melodic mapping in the latest update Paul :) Some very useful updates to the pads in the last few days.
@Lynne Viescas Paul has been giving the pads some love recently so fingers crossed this is on the list!
@Lynne Viescas I guess you are a long time MPC user? I may introduce a reverse option if it proves not too difficult.
@@benashford1971 Thanks Ben, yes, I've been coming up with some great ideas to improve things, plus I'm planning to release a new tutorial today which exposes things that people may not know about the app.
I just purchased this and it seems good but I’m curious about why the default kits don’t align with standard chromatic midi notes from a 4x4 pad?
For example, standard pad setup seems to be note 36 (C2) on pad 1 through note 51 (D#3) on pad 16. When using this mapping with DigiStix, pad one is skipped and pad 16 plays the first pad from bank 2. Seems to be offset by one note from standard. Is this an intentional design choice or do I have something misconfigured? I understand I can midi learn each pad, but just trying to figure out why it’s acting this way.
DigiStix has two mapping methods, the default and a reverse mapping that can be enabled by tapping the menu button and picking Reverse Pads. This is probably more like what you would expect on an MPC type layout. Failing that you have to map the kits yourself.
This is just beautiful, looking forward to it. Will it be able to import kits & songs & stuff from DS1?
It should be backward compatible but you need to copy the kits over from DS1 to DS2 if you created any of your own, otherwise you are good to go.
Brilliant! 😎👍🏼. Any chance of getting full-screen in MTR? Would make arranging and editing clips easier.
hello
how to add audio track {cubasis) and choose DigiStix 2 as input(route)?
THANKS
You have to add a MIDI track and add DigiStix to the MIDI track. Any outgoing MIDI can be recorded to the MIDI track, and the MIDI track can send notes to DIGISTIX to sound the pads.
Looks great, can you save midi maps? I might want to use different controllers or say fire midi from other apps into DS 2
The MIDI mappings are currently saved as part of the kit itself, as a GM kit will be mapped different from a DS kit. However, you could duplicate a kit and change the mappings I guess. I may add an option to save the mappings within the actual song in future versions.
Will this allow us to trigger drum fills like the Beat Buddy?
how do you preview the sample before loading? Thanks for the video
Generally you drag and drop samples to the pads, and most people use Sample Crate to preview. It's a pretty nice inexpensive app.
Hi, Is there any way to import patterns? there is a place to down maybe for digistix 2 ?
The best you can do is save a song which is essentially all your patterns, but you can't save individual patterns no.
Rob Robin is great! Do we have also an option to randomize the sample played?
No, but thanks you just reminded me and its going on my list of updates!!
Random mode coming in the next version as well as MIDI export.
I have used quite extensively the multilayer set up capability in the your first version. I had few other drawback at the time.
the horizontal pads set up was y main issues : you checked that box. Thank you Do we have a 16 full screen display mode for finger drumming?
Adding dynamic when figer drumming by faking velocity based on position of contact on the pad you hit (X or Y)?
Lock the 16 pads area in order to prevent triggering accidentally a functionality?
I own 15 of your apps.
@@yanndoray6308 There is already an option to lock the pads so that the pad menus are not displayed, or are you asking for something to prevent the pads from working if pressed?
@@PaultheMusicMan great then! Lock everything but the pads it is what I meant indeed!
hello
can I change volume of each layer in the same pad?
thanx
Yes you can. In the preview window above the 16 pads, press the RIGHT arrow until you find the Layer Velocities page.
Looks a really good app in many respects, but I'm desperately trying to find something that will do multi-layer per pad AND round robin for a realistic kit sound. It seems no-one has nailed this yet on iPad. Any chance?
This does do multi-layer round robin but you are limited to 5 layers per pad, and you have 64 pads per kit. DS2 also includes an auto sampler that can fire off MIDI notes and velocities to any MIDI instrument and record what comes back. Awesome for building new kits.
@@PaultheMusicMan So you can do, say, 3 round-robins for each of the 5 velocity layers? (ie. 15 samples assigned to one pad)
@@jezstephenson No sorry my explanation was bad, only in round robin mode you only have 5 samples per pad.
@@PaultheMusicMan If you were able to implement round robins at each velocity layer I think you'd be the only app to offer this. There's a massive demand for this feature if my Googling of the issue is anything to go by! It'd make Digistix viable as a pro-level drum sampler. The rest of it looks so good.
Does this app has built in patterns to use and edit them? Or jam along them in different music generes
No, it has the various genre of kits but you have to program the patterns yourself. These patterns can then be pieced together into songs, but to be honest I'm not a good drummer.
@@PaultheMusicMan thanks it’s such a cool app
Great will there be a upgrade Ds1
I'm not sure it is even possible to do this on the App Store is it?
@@PaultheMusicMan hello Paul, Atom and Atom2 were bundled so that existing users could pay a reduced amount in order to purchase the newer version. I have a few of your apps and love how the more I dig in the more I find. I’m not saying that you should bundle DigiStix and DigiStix2, I just noticed that you may not have been aware of this approach. 👍
Hi Paul, I love DigiStix 2, but recently I have found it is not saving patterns that I have inputted, when used in AUM. Any advice please?
Since I haven't changed anything pattern related this could be a global session saving issue within AUM itself. I assume you are using AUM's ability to save the session rather than saving the song internally? I haven't had any other reports of issues so it may be worth saving the pattern as a song just so you have a backup. What version of iOS are you using?
I've been testing this issue myself and not been able to reproduce the issue yet. When you exit AUM it calls each AUv3 in turn for its session data, which is restored when AUM next loads and you chose to restore session. If AUM crashes or you chose not to load the saved session when launching AUM this data is lost. This is why you need to ensure you save a song file, just in case this happens. It only takes one plugin to fail and you loose everything. If you can give me any more details which will help me track it down I will take another look. In the meantime I will contact Jonatan (creator of AUM) to see if he has any ideas.
I should add that the only other AUv3s in the project are two instances of Scaler 2, and one instance of SynthMaster Player
@@Bill_Saunders_Music Any chance you can record a short video showing this happening for me? Maybe it will help shine a light on what is going wrong. You can email me at info at 4pockets dot com with any video links etc.
Hey Paul, in AUV3 mode is Import from Documents available? If not, how can I add my own sample folders to DS2 and preview them in the DS2 browser before selection? Seems like I would have to create a kit of Kicks? Also, with longer samples can I set trigger mode to gate? It's seems like there is only 1Shot and Loop which a toggle and requires two notes in the sequencer for start and stop. With Tie notes I want to be able to gate long samples but I cant work out how to do it? Thanks
Swiping left on a PAD allows you to load samples from Documents with the ability to preview samples by simply tapping on them. Alternatively, TAP and HOLD a pad and pick Import from Documents. if you enable loop mode and retrigger, you can restart lengthy samples, but there is no gate mode as such.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for the prompt response. I can do the left swipe in standalone, but nothing happens in AUM (using User kit) Swiping in all other directions works.
@@SoundtempleMusic Yes, this is because an AUv3 cannot access the documents folder directly, even its own. The only way to load from this location as an AUv3 is by dragging and dropping samples from the Files App. There are so many restrictions to AUv3 apps, I was thinking of releasing a technical video for end users and developers to learn what can and can't be done in terms of storage and files access etc. I think people would get a lot of useful information from such a video.
@@PaultheMusicMan Yep, that would be useful. So, I think I'm better using Neon to store my sample library so I can edit, preview and then drag n drop to DS2 and other apps.
Great app! Is it possible to change the layout of the pad to MPC style? So that the basskick and snare are on the bottom line by default.
Yes, press the menu button above the PADS and turn on Reverse Pads (if memeory serves me correctly).
Alright already sold. When’s it drop in store, and can it export midi files to load into helium.
Anytime in the next 24 hours!! No, it doesn't export MIDI files, but that might be something worth considering.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks Paul. It’s just when you have a basic song put together in DigiStix it would be useful to export to helium for editing as helium works to a lot higher resolution for creating a lot more complex rhythms.. Anyway can’t wait for it to reach the store.
@@kentaccordionist It should be live now matey... and I will definately add a MIDI export over the next couple of weeks no worries.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks Paul. Just purchased it. Hopefully I’m the first to do so. I will have a play when I’m properly awake. I only got up to see if it had dropped yet. Have a great day my friend.
@@kentaccordionist Have a great weekend mate, and thanks for all your support.
When?! 😎😎😎😎
Not sure just yet but very soon.
has it been submitted to app store already? very pumped for this one
@@eross21 Yes, it will be released later today.
Hi Paul. Why DigiSix 2 is not heard (like mute)when I open it in Loopy pro
Perhaps you aren't sending keys to it or the track is muted? I assume the pads work? I can assure you it does work inside of Loopy Pro.
Hello, is it possible to use a roland electronic drum set, for example, to trigger the pads connected via midi to the ipad with the DS2 app?
If your Roland drum kit can generate notes then it will work, but to be honest I;m not familiar with this hardware.
Does DigiStix2 work in BeatMaker 3?
Do you know if it allow external MIDI Sync in?... Can I sync it with external hardware?
Since DigiStix is designed to be run as a plugin under your DAW it is the DAW that looks after master clock, not the plugin. So running under AUM it is possible to sync to a master clock for instance.
Is there a way to turn off quantization?
No, it always snaps to grid. You can use the Triplet options to lay 1/4 and 1/8 note triplets if that helps.
Hi, Any chance to get the option to map CC command in loopy pro or within the app to the "clear" the sequencer button? \ and for the "record" and "step" buttons? \ Undo the last action it is a must-have... it's really kills my workflow when I need to open the app and use my fingers making it impossible to make it my major drum app please your assistance- I offer myself as a beta user for this request
Expecting to be able to program drum machine patterns remotely is not a reasonable request. I don't really know of any other pattern based drum machine that allows this and for good reason. I have a massive list of suggestions for DS2 and when I get around to an update I will consider adding some of the suggested functionality, but honestly, I doubt anyone could program patterns without seeing the interface.
@@PaultheMusicMan Im working a lot with the interface open but the iPad is far away and I have lots of external devices that control everything via midi .. no even undo or clear pattern? if I misclick a pad I need to capture the right moment for it to come back in the sequence and use my fat fingers to delete it and then it doesn't delete it and makes an 8 times icon ...I really don't understand why you are saying that this essential midi function is not a reasonable request...I'm just raising a flag as a performer with technical knowledge
We need to take the IOS apps to the next level and again I'm offering my help to achieve it.
@@mctzr What might be essential for one person might not be an issue for others, so I always need to question whether others would benefit because I get hundreds of requests every day and it is impossible to implement them all. Like I say, show me another drum machine that allows remote programming of patterns? It is typicallly not something people expect, even if it is on the surface a good idea. I didn't dismiss your ideas, just said that your ideas will be considered.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thank you.
Are there some good drum sounds that’s the big question…
I guess that depends on the listener and what genre they are after. In my opinion they are pretty good, but hey, you can easily record your own drum kits if you need to.
Hi
I purchased the app few days ago and loving it.
I have issues with midi mapping on the pads to my mini lunchpad mk3.
When I reopen the app I see the mapping is reseted also when changing kits the mapping disappear and I nees remap all all over again as it won't recognize it automatically
I tried to export and backup my midi assigned kit and restore it when this happens but with no luck the midi lerans on the pad ia not saved.
Please assist..
This is most critical issues to the work flow
Thanks
Your MIDI mappings are saved with a song, or with a drumkit if it is in a writable bank. My advice is to save a song with all your custom settings.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thank you!
I will go check it and will update soon🙏🙏
@@PaultheMusicMan Hi
It did saved under song but when I switch to other kit it reset again.. and when i try to load the original kit it wont help.. only load the sonng again.
There is no way to map it once as default for all kits and songs?
Thanks
@@mctzr The mapping is saved also with the kits, but only if they are writable. Instead, create a new song as you should do each time you start a new AUM session, and the song and its settings will be loaded with the host when the AUM session is loaded. So it should be automatic.
@@PaultheMusicMan I see now yes.
There is anyway to midi learn other functions other then pad assignments?
Like the record button/ step /metronome?
Thanks again
Does this work with edrums?
If you can route the MIDI to your edrums it will work, but it very much depends on what host application you are using as it needs to be loaded as an AUv3. It should be possible in AUM, but I'm not sure about or an expert on all hosts.
@@PaultheMusicMan thanks
Even though as AUv3 promoted this app wont run in Garageband. That is a bis misleading
Why will it not work in GarageBand? I can use it just fine. What it the problem? Don't forget DigiStix is an instrument so don't try and load it as an effect.
@@PaultheMusicMan Thanks for your reply. I tried both as input instrument to audio-recorder and as external track but it wont show up as audio unit extension nor inter app audio
Would be so good if you could help me out
Ok just restarted the ipad. Now its showing up. :):):) thanks!!
@@Earthvssuna Yeah, its a bug in iOS and happens more frequenctly than it should. It fails to register AUv3's at run time but a reboot forces registration of all plugins.
Oh I love it already was exactly what I was looking for!!! Thanks so much for this app :D:D
👍🔉🎹🥰💖🤙🥁