I actually agree with your rankings except Rhamphy I give Rhamphy d tier simply because it’s the best ano counter right now. That’s its only real niche. Plague Carrier puts Ano on a very short timer before it starves to death and Ano can’t really do anything to counter nor kill it because it’s a pounce flyer and lucky feathers. People are really sleeping on this little guy
Tbh I play Ano a lot, I didn’t even know what the debuff done. Personally sarco is my biggest problem. I use forager on Ano since the whole hunker bug, food everywhere. Good idea though. With the new update too I’d say that strat is more viable now too
While it can’t deal any direct damage, Rhamphy has some kinda busted abilities people are really sleeping on and it can be surprisingly effective in combat. The scab picker ability paired with the plague carrier ability will reduce a creature’s bleed heal rate by 70%, effectively increasing the bleed output of your team by 70% for a single target. If you’re in a pack of concas against an eo, they could easily take turns exchanging ripping kicks and claws on the eo as it attempts to turn around to take a swing at your teammates and you could go in and bump up that bleed like crazy! Additionally, plague carrier drains the eo’s hunger and thirst which means it’ll heal slower, and if you’ve got a second rhamph on the team running bloodsucker, you’d help out your conca friends to get hits in by reducing the eo’s turn radius by 50%. Not to mention the 20% damage buff rhamph can give which would just be cruel when paired with a dasp pack, and the fishy breath ability that lets you add almost any buff you want to your team for 2 minutes. Wake up guys rhamph is S tier!
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
I mean, fight wise ram is useless as it can do any atcua damage but SUPPORT wise it is op as all heck. If it could do damage I think it would be unstoppable, but the fact remains, it can't do anything when grouped with other rams. Yes one comment says it can solo an ano with plauge but ano can still drink and eat undisturbed. Ram+concavs will always scare me but he did say at the start the list was taking into account each dino in a group with only its own dino and ram can't do anything by itself sadly. Love the tips iam geting for when I go ram with friends though.
@@Saphira3441 Ahh I see now, the list is disqualifying things without DPS. Makes more sense! But yes, rhamphy is OP as heck in a supportive role. Have 1 on scab picker and 1 on bloodsucker in a group of concas and you’ve got yourself a deadly combo.
Eo doesn't have any attacks to protect its backside now which is a big pitfall compared to the rex, who at least has tail attack or stomp. If you have a dino that's fast enough or has better turn speed than eo and play smartly you've basically won that fight
as an achillo main I can say rex is scary but trike is a 100% guaranteed free trophy with basically no risk at all, its stomp has way to small of a hitbox and has no way to defend from behind trikes are just walking meat wagons.
Being an allo main, allosaurus is very much capabal of dealing with dinos above and in it's weight class, most allo players I have seen make the big mistake of face tanking most dinos, when you can easily tail ride them. for example, sucho has a worser turn circle than allo, so allo can easily stay behind a sucho away from it's high dmg claw barrage. with dinos like Iggy or stego with high dmg dealing back attacks, its best to flick bite and know your prey's attack cooldowns to time your attacks. But I do agree on addign a second headslot for allo
Allo has a super hard time punching up IF the larger Dino is playing correctly. Of course, if someone gives you a tail ride it’s a free kill, I mean a campto could eventually make a kill with a tail ride lol. Sucho is currently the bane of allo’s existence if it can catch it, I speak from experience lol. Allo’s def not bad, just hard to punch up compared to other Dinos in the higher tiers imo
Tbh I was expecting some brainrot like "rex ss tier achi F tier!!!" or something like that, but this was well thought out and agreeable for the most part. I'm not sure if I fully agree with Kai and Amarga, but I don't mind their placement.
I have to disagree with rhamph just because it "doesn't do dmg" doesn't make it a bad playable in combat with fishy breath blood suck and the dmg buff call it makes a good support dino for large packs or teammates
Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
As a styra main this list is quite accurate. The thing I really struggle the most is Dasp. For some reason, its bone break is quite hard to avoid. And that def kills me. It's also surprisingly agile to catch up with me
As a raptor and allo main, it's especially frustrating. I used to love playing deinon, but now it's virtually impossible to take anything down without a pack. I've since switched to utah and austra (I play community mainly) or achillo if none of the above are available. When I'm bored of raptors, I switch to allo. I wish allo had more abilities, but I'm glad it's able to evade/out maneuver slower apexes and mess up lower tiers. Although, a large pack of raptors will absolutely annihilate allos. 😅
I play hatz a lot and megs are literally the easiest thing in the game to kill, including mods. Its unreal how easy you can fly them down and just face tank while taking like 15% damage lol
Put around 50 hours into Hatz recently, and I was pleasantly surprised at just how strong it was. And how fast it is on land. Combined with the peck that pierces armor and ignores CW.. Sheesh.
Good video, I've been catching up since my last time playing during the night stalker update, and the meta is in an interesting spot. I'd be curious to see a list of where you'd like the playables to be at compared to this.
i had a cool idea for rhampy where it becomes a bat sp it sucks blood off dinos for food/water then it takes it off from the dinos health like 5 damage per bite and gains food or water amd it applys the debuff from scab picker i do believe
Ramph is probably the best dino in the game, lucky feather, plotting whispers giving a 20% damage buff to stuff not even in your ground and being able to scout and give hypercarnivors fish buffs.. its kinda goated
I'm in the camp where I only ever played Allosaurus and when raptors had bleed it was scary but I feel like they went in the wrong direction with the Nerf. I think bleed should still be a thing, but the duration of which the raptors would be pounced would be halved. That bleed should only scale with the size of the dinosaur, but if you have multiple raptors pouncing it would scale up the bleed proportionate to how many stacks you'd gain when you're getting attacked by them
I'd say i agree with most placements. Bars is getting a rework in the fall or by the end of this year. So, I'm excited that its going to get a TLC. I'm mostly an herbi player.
You should make a mixpack tierlist for both diets. I think that dinos such as metri and rhamph are so much more useful when accompanied by stronger dinos and they would be better represented in a group tier list. Edit: you could also talk about suggested group compositions that you think are strong at the moment.
Pycno is so underrated rn. They actually got more of a buff than a nerf, cause they got a health buff, and as long as your running the charge foes full dmg.
Yeh but that's how pyc always was. You can't really trade hits, so u had to get an opening with the charge. The best way to do that was with a group. Though I do agree something u can't fight as well anymore like achillos
@@Panic09 yeah I love pycno shame point blank charge doesn’t do the dmg it used to because that’s one of the things that made pycno scary even with its hp nerf
Pycno is one of my mains and it can beat most Dino’s. Play near hills or water. Use the stronger head but for more knockback use tail and do not waste stam. 1 thing I have noticed is ppl underestimate the knockback. Pycno can beat allot of Dino’s if they have lower stam bcs he can hit n run with headbutt. But only start combat with ambush charge or knock them back into hill or water to waste stam. I have killed stronger Dino’s like anky just by using knockback in 1 hit. No non apex can 1v1 a pycno on a hill.
i actually find it very easy to kill Dasp on Allo, especially if my Allo is defense subspecies, standard sub works too... buut its fragile but faster than defense but i like def more cz it can tank more "heavy bite"...
Yeah allo can shred dasp if played right, you just have to be careful. It's got a higher combat weight and does a lot of damage. However, if you get bone broke, it's pretty much game over. Something like sucho could easily survive the bone break and still makes kills which is why allo is where it is on this list :)
@@Khanware XD whenever i get bone breaked, i simple walk towards them and bite their heads cz heavy bite has a cooldown if I'm correct cz they cant spam it, but its different when they're running the normal bite, and the bait + tail attack is extremely helpful and pretty easy to do too :D
My thoughts and opinion Alio: Only good in packs. Free kill when solo. Achillo: Decent on it's own against its tier and lower. Struggles against higher tiers. Allo: Pretty good against most creatures. Does poorly against anything if bonebroken. Sucho dominates it. Cerato: Pretty decent overall Conav: Not bad. Needs a turn radius buff Deinon: A faster and more agile Laten (as of current) Daspleto: Kills most things once it lands bone break. Easily killable once out of stamina Hatzeg: Very mid. Does terrible when pounced on Laten: A better Deinon with less soeed and turn (as of current) Thalasso: Absolutely weak Sarco: Insanely high damage. Low health Spino: Poor speed management. Can hold its own for a long while Sucho: An Allo on steroids in a nutshell Rex: Absolute unit on any server. Turn radius prevents it from being too op
It’s funny when an ano player starts trash talking in global that people needed a 10 dino megapack to kill a mere Ano. Although Ano is currently invencible lmfao.
Thalassadromeus can do decent aerial combat. Of course collision damage is a real thing but experienced thal players know where to attack without taking any. I still agree on your ranking but thal makes PoT hard mode and its exciting!
Plus its pretty even with raptors with low combat weight and both realizing the dangers of their own attacks to eachother. Im talking purely adults fighting. Ive been there many times lol
I like how you didn't immediately place the apexs at the top lol just saying any bad apex player can be easily clapped by something like a dasp or allo-
You forgot Rhamps true role in this game: Doing the refresh water quest over and over at IC to keep it habitable for the megapacks. Solid tier list otherwise though.
As a Rex/Sarco main, I respect the B tier Rex got. It’s definitely very easy to run from if you don’t get a bone break fast. The sarco probably deserves an S tier imo but I’m a bit biased 😅
Honestly I agree with a lot of these picks. I would place iggy in b tier (mainly because it’s literally an allo that went vegan) and I would put eo in a tier because a good eo can jump you with charge if you’re not careful. Conc with full turn build could probably make it to b tier (yes I’m a conc main so maybe this is a dumb argument :p) And campto well… I’ve seen their dark side and it’s not pretty (dead megs galore)
As a kent main i was unlucky not to be able to play it before the nerf. I still like it, but ive seen so many videos (from before it got nerfed) and the gameplay seemed much better 😢
Yeah I used to play a lot of kent, it's soo bad now post nerf. The turning radius is what got me. It's just too much to play around, not a needed nerf imo. Nerfing it's stats is completely fine because you just have to be way more careful and smarter when playing, but nerfing its turn radius just changes its actual playstyle and mechanics completely cause you can't dodge and take passes like you used to. I was quite sad to see how bad that change was when they nerfed it
I feel like each dino should have a solo tier and a group tier because mulitiple dinos got lower tiers because of their solo play and you gave others higher tiers for their group play and vice-versa
Tbh i agree with most of the list except ramph and conc,ramph is good for debuffing annoying animals or starve anos which can be very useful And conc lacks dmg,but has INSANE bleed in packs,i remember one time i grouped with 4 others and we were to kill pretty much all by sit and wait tbh,the issue is that:You gotta wait for em to bleed out Regardless gd video❤
Not to mention they nerfed the alios speed which was the main reason you’d pick it since you could do hit and runs and get away from little kids that spam apex’s to try and kill you
I cant wait till my iggy get his tlc he went thur so much removed abilities and nerfs out the wazoo an not even a model update we just get a coming soon from the devs while they work on the others playables why mess with a playable that wasnt even A tier
Meg an raptor actually just suffer from trample +lag they can tail ride bigger thing without getting hit most of the time but when the prey is weak and running let's say an allo the meg gets headshot trample dmg Wich kills it faster than a allo facetanking trample is so annoying for that the hitbox is 360 and not just infront of the foot
Im gonna have to disagree on Rhamp's F tier choice. As one of like, 4 Rhampy mains, Rhamp is really good when paired with bleeders like conca or allo. Rhamps buffs really allow for some extra punch to bleed dmg, and plague carrier is a great ano counter. Rhamps Bloodsuck attack is also great with things like rex and the such cause they get a full 50% turn nerf. On top of that, Rhamp can grant a 10% dmg buff very quickly to allies, and make healing more effective due to Fishy Breath. I would advocate for at best a high C for Rhampy or a low B at worst, F simply cause it can't deal dmg seems a little harsh imo. I say these tiers, because Rhampy has the main flaws of things like no dmg, almost oneshot by everything, and Lucky Feather being very inconvenient at times, and not activating on certain dmg sources. Sorry for the wall of text, great video! God i hope my boy Bars gets some love soon...
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills. I probably could have made it more clear that I intended this list to be around fighting/combat specifically, in which Ramph can’t participate because it can’t deal damage. That’s on me!
@@Khanware Ah, I must've missed the first part! Yeah, Rhamp in damage terms is as F as F Tier gets. Maybe Scab Picker dealing like, 10 seconds of bleed could make it more helpful?
@@GizmoTTV Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Adding raw damage to its kit would probably make it way too annoying, but having a small bleed might make it a little more directly useful. Nothing crazy though, like maybe stacking 2 seconds a bite or something would do it. Just would like to see ramph have some ability to deal a tiny bit of damage! Those teeth look too gnarly to not lol
Bars personally would be in B tier for me, as its defense call; lone survivor and defense sub species make it a sheer wall to be messed with since its headbutt is spammable and high damage while its tail attack and tail slam are good for tricking upcoming opponents if you’re attacking with only one or the other, confusing them for a face tank, as I have killed 2 dasps and a rex as a solo bars in impact creator whilst being bone broke for most of it
Its stats are good but more moves in its kit would be really nice, and the only issue with bars is once you catch someone to low health they’re likely to get away because you’ve wasted more than half your stamina trying to keep up
Bars headbutt is actually extremely low damage, it’s 35. It’s hardest hitting ability (tail slam) does 75 so it’s decent. In my experience, bars is just a walking snack bar, never had a problem with killing one, just takes a while. Maybe you’re a really good bars player!
I prefer speed bars against apexes, you can use it to kite them basically. Also, unless your opponent is completely on the defense or if it's a trading hits situation with an apex, you should use tail swipe instead of tail slam. It has the same dps with much less recharge to leave you vulnerable. Headbutt can be useful against smaller enemies but usually isn't a good idea.
Allo really needs the stam usage from the claw attack taken away that’s a dumb decision. A bleeding dino that can’t keep them running because of the stam usage.
I disagree with rhamphs placement since it’s a strictly support playable and thought this list is combat based rhamph should definitely be higher if you take into consideration how useful its buffs are, I personally would place rhamph into B to C tier as it can change the outcome of fights with it’s abilities but overall I think this is the best tier list I’ve seen currently. I just hope they nerf things like dasps crazy bb if not remove it, nerf suchos barrage dmg, nerf achillos shred and boost its pounce requirement to 6k or above because solo achillo shreds stego sadly and nerf anos tail aoe
Yeah ramph can be a pretty strong support if played right! Only reason I placed ramph so low is cause I was basing this tier list off of ability to fight and then adding on bonuses like healing/support buffs, and since ramph can’t deal damage, it got an F. Sorry if that wasn’t clear!
@@Khanware no no that’s fine I just thought that though rhamph can’t fight it should have been higher then f tier but i understand your reasoning for putting it there 😊
So im just a dinosaur enthusiast in general who has a passing interest in this game. Im not super familiar with the community. These nicknames have me pretty dang confused. I still got most of them but it was hella confusing.
Most of these nicknames (as you probably guessed) come right from the game itself. If you Google, "Path of Titans dino stats wiki" and scroll down, you'll see a list of all their full names and be able to see where the abbreviated versions come from :)
Honestly rex is kinda bad atm. I like it bad tho. It deserves to be bad for once. Its ass turn radius and bad tail attack make it easy prey for a small pack of small/mid tiers. Me and a buddy took two down with just two ceras
you forgot that an anno can esily be killed if a sarco clamps him and holds him or the sarco clamps him and drops him making it reset the hunker down but that also forces you to play near the water unless the sarco is super brave lol
Bro i take everything back abt sarco and alberta bc back then i still played on community servers and never played againt ppl who are actually good at the game😂
I don't think you've played much Bars lately my guy, that thing is still really op. Pretty much the only thing that can kill it for sure is a larger pack of medium-sized carnis. Rex can be a tough fight but can be won with relative ease if you can avoid bonebreak. Spino is usually easy kill. Achilos are probably the biggest threat to bars, but still manageable for a good player, and if all else fails you can just escape into deep water.
So a lot of people have said, I still find it hard to believe though. Spino I could see losing, but I don't think a rex or eo should be losing at all (I heard they just made bars' tail slam AoE bigger so maybe that will help)
@@Khanware personally I use speed bars and in my experience beating a rex is usually a matter of avoiding bone break, and eo can go either way but it's possible to kill one by kiting if you have enough stam.
@@matyaskassay4346 interesting, I never considered speed bars. Well I know bars can beat rex and eo, I’m just saying it shouldn’t easily lol. I feel like if the rex or eo know what they’re doing, they shouldn’t lose
Pretty much everyone uses the abbreviated names in game because the full names are more cumbersome. If you go to the Path of Titans wiki, you can see a full list of all dinos in the game with their full names. That might help you see which is which better if you’re new
That got removed in the most recent patch. Apparently it wasnt intended. Wish it was though, as ano is a menace rn and not being able to knock it out off hunker down kinda just makes it impossible to interact with.
Noticed raptors started to do bleed again? I got jumped by some When I joined u guys and they gave me the bleed affect but I don’t think they actually gave the bleed do damage
You’re wrong about thal. I’ve been hunting hatz and quetz and anos as thal… they’re great at that but not much else. The dive bomb does hella damage to flyers!
Conc is amazing tho. I’ve killed apexes with it. I defended myself from 2 utahs and 1 kel. Conc has good stam, good damage, good bleed and good in packs
i think, bars deserves better. i as a bars main (ofc i'm mad about it being in d tier lol) kill rexes/ eos and spino. i never die against of the apex'. he ain't that bad even if it's not that fast, it can outrun a rex, if it is the right species!
I’ve seen a lot of people say something like this. No hate to you bars mains, maybe you all are just S tier bars players lol. I’ve never had much trouble taking down bars myself, so I’m not convinced. I’d like to test it out in some 1v1 scenarios now
This is just because I’m an Alio main (yes even in the current meta) but I will always critique people’s placement of Alio. It’s the second fastest thing in the game, it can be a good support dinosaur, and makes for the single best pick class in the game. (To summarize what a pick class is, you go in and Finnish off weak dinosaurs your group mates can’t catch) While it’s true a solo Alio isn’t that great, in the right hands, an Alio can be quite the opponent. (And if anyone is wondering, I’d place Alio in B tier. It works really well when you acquire the skill, but that skill floor is by far the highest in the game)
I love alio, used to play it all the time. Sad it’s been nerfed so much. It’s role as a finisher is decent, but I ranked it where I did because this was more of an overall look at how Dinos perform in combat, ability to kill, and escape. And while alio can definitely escape, it’ll have a lot of trouble bringing down most dinos in its current state if they aren’t already weakened first
@@WhoCaresAbtU a mindset like that goes to show exactly how you view combat in this game. You could have a thousand different attack abilities and be the worst playable in the game, Alio doesn’t need a lot of abilities to be good, it already has a good kit if you know how to utilize it
Iggy gotta be in A tier, has the speed, stamina, devastating back kick and just bulky. I kill things all the time that underestimate me. Just recently had a good 1v1 with a sucho and won easily, also allo should not be beating any good iggy in a 1v1. I’m defense sub species and run traction. I just tail kite all day until they get annoyed and get to close for my kick and the occasional stabbing
@@glencoco688 I used to fight pre-nerf iggy’s on my cerato and kentro and consistently win. Once you learn how to kite it, it’s not hard to land hits without being hit. And that was pre nerf iggy. I can’t speak to your experience, but sucho shouldn’t be losing a fight to an iggy, especially a defense one. Defense iggy drops its speed to match sucho’s at 950, so once the sucho is in range, it should be game over for the iggy if the sucho is any good. The nerfs iggy took just hit it a little too hard imo. Pre nerf iggy I would’ve been fine with putting in A.
@@Khanwarethat’s where traction iggy comes in and then you have a way tighter turn circle to avoid the claw barrage max damage. Trust me it’s a game changer. Overall great video man, earned a new sub💪🏽
For me conc IS low A It has op dps 60 per bite and IS Pretty spammable and the bleed IS op and in packs destroys apexes except for Eo and deinoc i mean i killed allos,lambs solo and in packs of 2 rex and suchos u just need to play it right.
@@Khanware most of them use the wrong build to PvP using claws and with that i have Pretty bad turning but if u have balanced claws It turns very very good and u can easily outmaneuver a metri or cera.
@@TheBr0seph nuh uh u can use ripping Kick It has same bleed and far more dmg and can be used to brake check and create distance same as achillo.Only downside is that It uses stam but thats It.
@@srconc-ks3mi yeh, but it drains stamina and isn’t a consistent source of damage. Also, conc has 475hp. That alone makes it not worthy of A tier. Cera and Achillo have 600.
There’s no straight answer. A face tank rex beats a bone break rex in a facetank. A bone break rex has the ability to break/catch prey that get too close, and also has better escapability via bone breaking chasers and taking space. So really just depends on play style/what type of dinos your playing with
@@KhanwareI haven’t heard about it either but I suppose its because of the tail with the plus knockback sub you are a menace i was chased by a spino and 3 anos got bone broke and was able to use my knockback to keep them away to run and by time they killed me there were all low just from my tail and smaller dinos get flung by the tail
Sorry I have to disagree with you on Stego's placement. As a Stego main I can't do anything with most raptors and I can't out tank anything with more combat weight. I also can't turn well at all. The stamina sucks and so to does the regen. Not to mention if something gets on the front side of you there is nothing you can do but die. You really need to play more Stego if you think it's a solid choice cause tbh Kentro is better atm than Stego.
You’re a stego main but you don’t know that a wound charge attack hits raptors on both slots and both sides of you? It’s a very easy defense mechanism against raptors and does a ton of damage to them. Kentro was absolutely better than steg before its nerfs, but it isn’t anymore. Steg can kill rexes if you play your distancing right. Also run pivot? Pivot allows you to turn in places extremely quickly after standing still for a few seconds. It’s hard to get openings on a pivot steg. I see a lot of people misplaying on steg frequently. The other thing is while steg’s stamina regen does suck, solar powered can make it quite good during the day, making it regen 50% faster.
@@Khanware I understand that the charge tail swipe can hit raptors but it can't if those raptors are on the front of your stego. Don't believe me test it for yourself. Stego definitely has its upsides but I think the downsides are much more significant than Kentro. I really believe that the Stego needs something in the front to make it good. I do run Pivot also. Just saying that the Stego is still in need of something even if I myself ain't 100% sure myself.
Not in my experience, I’ve never had much trouble killing them before. Most rex/eo players tend not to play properly and just mash attacks, so I would assume they might lose doing that. If played properly, I don’t think bars would stand a chance. Maybe y’all are just S tier bars players lol
Bars is like a forcefield for any herbivore packs, they are an immediate +100 intimidation factor. It's all about sprinting away so the enemy (apex) will hit your tail, and then smack them in the head, the damage tradeoff is unfair for the enemy
And most mid tiers can't do much, raptors are the biggest threat for a bars though. But if the raptor missteps, bars can one shot latens and deinons with one tail slam, and brutally maim achillos
I put it in D tier because you’re almost never scared of a laten. They can be dealt with pretty easily. In theory a campto can also solo many dinos, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a good pick in the current meta. Latens also took a major nerf when they reverted the latch mechanic changes
@@Khanware idk, i can take out basically anything at night, with the mcmasterae subspecies, nightstalker passive, and popping raptor call before pouncing. Bigger dinos require a couple pounces, but just kite them while you regain stam to pounce again. A dinos fun and ability to escape danger should also be considered when making tier lists, not just "which animal bites the hardest" or w/e. But it's your tier list, not mine. 🤷🏼♂️
wrong with spino. spino wins a facetank against rex with lone survivor equipped and tough scutes. It always wins. I know this because I play spino xD And even if you lose somehow, you can rear ride the hell out of REX
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Love your videos Khanware! Maybe top 5 poi's for questing?
I want to see playing allo!
Modded Dino tier list when that would be interesting 🧐
I actually agree with your rankings except Rhamphy I give Rhamphy d tier simply because it’s the best ano counter right now. That’s its only real niche. Plague Carrier puts Ano on a very short timer before it starves to death and Ano can’t really do anything to counter nor kill it because it’s a pounce flyer and lucky feathers. People are really sleeping on this little guy
Fair points! Ramph out here starving turtles lol
@@KhanwarePlague Carrier is such a nasty debuff imagine it on creature that can deal damage and plague Carrier would be busted
I did not know this, this will help with cuddlepile dismantling
Fantastic idea g I’ll defo try that out next time I play
Tbh I play Ano a lot, I didn’t even know what the debuff done. Personally sarco is my biggest problem. I use forager on Ano since the whole hunker bug, food everywhere. Good idea though. With the new update too I’d say that strat is more viable now too
As an eurhino main, im glad somebody finally ranked the aquatics higher than D. Its honestly staggering how so many people dismiss them
While it can’t deal any direct damage, Rhamphy has some kinda busted abilities people are really sleeping on and it can be surprisingly effective in combat. The scab picker ability paired with the plague carrier ability will reduce a creature’s bleed heal rate by 70%, effectively increasing the bleed output of your team by 70% for a single target. If you’re in a pack of concas against an eo, they could easily take turns exchanging ripping kicks and claws on the eo as it attempts to turn around to take a swing at your teammates and you could go in and bump up that bleed like crazy! Additionally, plague carrier drains the eo’s hunger and thirst which means it’ll heal slower, and if you’ve got a second rhamph on the team running bloodsucker, you’d help out your conca friends to get hits in by reducing the eo’s turn radius by 50%. Not to mention the 20% damage buff rhamph can give which would just be cruel when paired with a dasp pack, and the fishy breath ability that lets you add almost any buff you want to your team for 2 minutes. Wake up guys rhamph is S tier!
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
I mean, fight wise ram is useless as it can do any atcua damage but SUPPORT wise it is op as all heck. If it could do damage I think it would be unstoppable, but the fact remains, it can't do anything when grouped with other rams. Yes one comment says it can solo an ano with plauge but ano can still drink and eat undisturbed. Ram+concavs will always scare me but he did say at the start the list was taking into account each dino in a group with only its own dino and ram can't do anything by itself sadly.
Love the tips iam geting for when I go ram with friends though.
@@Saphira3441 Ahh I see now, the list is disqualifying things without DPS. Makes more sense! But yes, rhamphy is OP as heck in a supportive role. Have 1 on scab picker and 1 on bloodsucker in a group of concas and you’ve got yourself a deadly combo.
I should’ve made that more clear, I thought I did but a few people have been confused on Ramph’s rank. That’s on me!
I feel like eo is more dangerous than rex just based on eo being able to charge someone getting too close while rex can't really go on the offensive
I'd counter argue that charge is easy to dodge and rex has bone break so it's much more scary at the moment imo :)
Eo doesn't have any attacks to protect its backside now which is a big pitfall compared to the rex, who at least has tail attack or stomp. If you have a dino that's fast enough or has better turn speed than eo and play smartly you've basically won that fight
as an achillo main I can say rex is scary but trike is a 100% guaranteed free trophy with basically no risk at all, its stomp has way to small of a hitbox and has no way to defend from behind trikes are just walking meat wagons.
Pre-nerf Alio SS Tier 🤣
Solid list Khan 👊🏻
Thanks! Dude I used to love playing alio 😔
Definitely the most accurate tier list on YT. Great vid man 🤘🏽
Thank you ! I know this is a lot of work and with the ever changing meta a tier list is so helpful especially for solo players.
Being an allo main, allosaurus is very much capabal of dealing with dinos above and in it's weight class, most allo players I have seen make the big mistake of face tanking most dinos, when you can easily tail ride them. for example, sucho has a worser turn circle than allo, so allo can easily stay behind a sucho away from it's high dmg claw barrage. with dinos like Iggy or stego with high dmg dealing back attacks, its best to flick bite and know your prey's attack cooldowns to time your attacks. But I do agree on addign a second headslot for allo
Allo has a super hard time punching up IF the larger Dino is playing correctly. Of course, if someone gives you a tail ride it’s a free kill, I mean a campto could eventually make a kill with a tail ride lol. Sucho is currently the bane of allo’s existence if it can catch it, I speak from experience lol. Allo’s def not bad, just hard to punch up compared to other Dinos in the higher tiers imo
Tbh I was expecting some brainrot like "rex ss tier achi F tier!!!" or something like that, but this was well thought out and agreeable for the most part. I'm not sure if I fully agree with Kai and Amarga, but I don't mind their placement.
We try to avoid the brainrot around here as much as possible ;) lol thank you
What is wrong about kais placement?
I have to disagree with rhamph just because it "doesn't do dmg" doesn't make it a bad playable in combat with fishy breath blood suck and the dmg buff call it makes a good support dino for large packs or teammates
Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills
@@Khanware oh that makes more sense alright good list regardless 👍🏻
The real S tier: Discord
Lmao! So facts
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@@onlyenzoYT La ilaha illallah
As a styra main this list is quite accurate. The thing I really struggle the most is Dasp. For some reason, its bone break is quite hard to avoid. And that def kills me. It's also surprisingly agile to catch up with me
The devs always neglect my favorite Dinos 😔
Campto tlc when
@@Khanwareit got one a year ago
I meant ability tlc since it’s objectively gotten a lot worse with all the nerfs lol
Allo lol. A stat monster with such a sad moveset that drags it down
As a raptor and allo main, it's especially frustrating. I used to love playing deinon, but now it's virtually impossible to take anything down without a pack. I've since switched to utah and austra (I play community mainly) or achillo if none of the above are available. When I'm bored of raptors, I switch to allo. I wish allo had more abilities, but I'm glad it's able to evade/out maneuver slower apexes and mess up lower tiers. Although, a large pack of raptors will absolutely annihilate allos. 😅
I play hatz a lot and megs are literally the easiest thing in the game to kill, including mods. Its unreal how easy you can fly them down and just face tank while taking like 15% damage lol
Put around 50 hours into Hatz recently, and I was pleasantly surprised at just how strong it was. And how fast it is on land. Combined with the peck that pierces armor and ignores CW..
Sheesh.
best tier list i ever seen
14:54 imagine if stego had a stomp, chefs kiss
Good video, I've been catching up since my last time playing during the night stalker update, and the meta is in an interesting spot. I'd be curious to see a list of where you'd like the playables to be at compared to this.
i had a cool idea for rhampy where it becomes a bat sp it sucks blood off dinos for food/water then it takes it off from the dinos health like 5 damage per bite and gains food or water amd it applys the debuff from scab picker i do believe
Ramph is probably the best dino in the game, lucky feather, plotting whispers giving a 20% damage buff to stuff not even in your ground and being able to scout and give hypercarnivors fish buffs.. its kinda goated
I'm in the camp where I only ever played Allosaurus and when raptors had bleed it was scary but I feel like they went in the wrong direction with the Nerf. I think bleed should still be a thing, but the duration of which the raptors would be pounced would be halved. That bleed should only scale with the size of the dinosaur, but if you have multiple raptors pouncing it would scale up the bleed proportionate to how many stacks you'd gain when you're getting attacked by them
10:32 bars is ok with a good player I just wish it got more anti raptor stuff, or a stomp/kick
I'd say i agree with most placements. Bars is getting a rework in the fall or by the end of this year. So, I'm excited that its going to get a TLC. I'm mostly an herbi player.
Hatzegopteryx did get Peck Barrage fixed so it is spamable again
I mostly agree but I think that Pycno would be high C tier or bottom B tier. But overall great ranking.
You should make a mixpack tierlist for both diets. I think that dinos such as metri and rhamph are so much more useful when accompanied by stronger dinos and they would be better represented in a group tier list.
Edit: you could also talk about suggested group compositions that you think are strong at the moment.
That also might work well in a top 5 format!
Awesome video! Only input I got is you’re going to need a lot of raptors to take down 1200hp bars and very few mistakes. Raptors are so fragile
Pycno is so underrated rn. They actually got more of a buff than a nerf, cause they got a health buff, and as long as your running the charge foes full dmg.
True but it struggles in combat without a group because of the change to charge
Yeh but that's how pyc always was. You can't really trade hits, so u had to get an opening with the charge. The best way to do that was with a group. Though I do agree something u can't fight as well anymore like achillos
@@Panic09 yeah I love pycno shame point blank charge doesn’t do the dmg it used to because that’s one of the things that made pycno scary even with its hp nerf
Pycno is one of my mains and it can beat most Dino’s. Play near hills or water. Use the stronger head but for more knockback use tail and do not waste stam.
1 thing I have noticed is ppl underestimate the knockback. Pycno can beat allot of Dino’s if they have lower stam bcs he can hit n run with headbutt. But only start combat with ambush charge or knock them back into hill or water to waste stam. I have killed stronger Dino’s like anky just by using knockback in 1 hit. No non apex can 1v1 a pycno on a hill.
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i actually find it very easy to kill Dasp on Allo, especially if my Allo is defense subspecies, standard sub works too... buut its fragile but faster than defense but i like def more cz it can tank more "heavy bite"...
Yeah allo can shred dasp if played right, you just have to be careful. It's got a higher combat weight and does a lot of damage. However, if you get bone broke, it's pretty much game over. Something like sucho could easily survive the bone break and still makes kills which is why allo is where it is on this list :)
@@Khanware XD whenever i get bone breaked, i simple walk towards them and bite their heads cz heavy bite has a cooldown if I'm correct cz they cant spam it, but its different when they're running the normal bite, and the bait + tail attack is extremely helpful and pretty easy to do too :D
My thoughts and opinion
Alio: Only good in packs. Free kill when solo.
Achillo: Decent on it's own against its tier and lower. Struggles against higher tiers.
Allo: Pretty good against most creatures. Does poorly against anything if bonebroken. Sucho dominates it.
Cerato: Pretty decent overall
Conav: Not bad. Needs a turn radius buff
Deinon: A faster and more agile Laten (as of current)
Daspleto: Kills most things once it lands bone break. Easily killable once out of stamina
Hatzeg: Very mid. Does terrible when pounced on
Laten: A better Deinon with less soeed and turn (as of current)
Thalasso: Absolutely weak
Sarco: Insanely high damage. Low health
Spino: Poor speed management. Can hold its own for a long while
Sucho: An Allo on steroids in a nutshell
Rex: Absolute unit on any server. Turn radius prevents it from being too op
I am literally begging the devs to give Thalasso more abilities and a TLC, but it seems to act lower than dirt from both the devs and the community.
It’s funny when an ano player starts trash talking in global that people needed a 10 dino megapack to kill a mere Ano. Although Ano is currently invencible lmfao.
Thalassadromeus can do decent aerial combat. Of course collision damage is a real thing but experienced thal players know where to attack without taking any. I still agree on your ranking but thal makes PoT hard mode and its exciting!
Plus its pretty even with raptors with low combat weight and both realizing the dangers of their own attacks to eachother. Im talking purely adults fighting. Ive been there many times lol
The single best tier list ive seen for official dinos bravo
However i do think con and rex need to move up a slot lol
Appreciate it!
Yup totally agree ow maybe not with meg and hatz..I'd lower them in their current state
ngl seeing a group on concaves and ramps and the ramps bleed buff IS scary to me.
I like how you didn't immediately place the apexs at the top lol just saying any bad apex player can be easily clapped by something like a dasp or allo-
SO tired of them nerfing the iggy
You forgot Rhamps true role in this game: Doing the refresh water quest over and over at IC to keep it habitable for the megapacks. Solid tier list otherwise though.
As a Rex/Sarco main, I respect the B tier Rex got. It’s definitely very easy to run from if you don’t get a bone break fast. The sarco probably deserves an S tier imo but I’m a bit biased 😅
Honestly I agree with a lot of these picks. I would place iggy in b tier (mainly because it’s literally an allo that went vegan) and I would put eo in a tier because a good eo can jump you with charge if you’re not careful. Conc with full turn build could probably make it to b tier (yes I’m a conc main so maybe this is a dumb argument :p)
And campto well… I’ve seen their dark side and it’s not pretty (dead megs galore)
Plus with a camouflage skin campto can almost kill anything if it waits for them to sleep, I almost killed a sucho once as a campto XD
As a kent main i was unlucky not to be able to play it before the nerf. I still like it, but ive seen so many videos (from before it got nerfed) and the gameplay seemed much better 😢
Yeah I used to play a lot of kent, it's soo bad now post nerf. The turning radius is what got me. It's just too much to play around, not a needed nerf imo. Nerfing it's stats is completely fine because you just have to be way more careful and smarter when playing, but nerfing its turn radius just changes its actual playstyle and mechanics completely cause you can't dodge and take passes like you used to. I was quite sad to see how bad that change was when they nerfed it
I feel like each dino should have a solo tier and a group tier because mulitiple dinos got lower tiers because of their solo play and you gave others higher tiers for their group play and vice-versa
A group of pycnos is still deadly now with the heath buff. I would put them in B or a tier, honestly. The same goes with allos
Trust me after you have a rhamp starving you to death while you’re already low on food you’ll be glad it doesn’t do damage
What?? Since when can Rhamp starve you? Rhamp have always been just a loud noise maker that is practically useless.
@@Empathyandappathy guess you never read the ability descriptions
Tbh i agree with most of the list except ramph and conc,ramph is good for debuffing annoying animals or starve anos which can be very useful
And conc lacks dmg,but has INSANE bleed in packs,i remember one time i grouped with 4 others and we were to kill pretty much all by sit and wait tbh,the issue is that:You gotta wait for em to bleed out
Regardless gd video❤
Conc is bad, sorry even a pack of concs is a joke everywhere, it hasn’t been good since before it got that massive nerf.
@@Empathyandappathy what nerf?They buffed concs bleed by half lol and my pack keeps killing rexs,eos and bars so i doubt its as bad as ppl think
Not to mention they nerfed the alios speed which was the main reason you’d pick it since you could do hit and runs and get away from little kids that spam apex’s to try and kill you
I cant wait till my iggy get his tlc he went thur so much removed abilities and nerfs out the wazoo an not even a model update we just get a coming soon from the devs while they work on the others playables why mess with a playable that wasnt even A tier
Khan officially hasgood taste
Yo bro deinonychus is good after the ponce update
14:39 you gotta remind them Pachy mains 😂
Never let this man cook and never hear him out
Meg an raptor actually just suffer from trample +lag they can tail ride bigger thing without getting hit most of the time but when the prey is weak and running let's say an allo the meg gets headshot trample dmg Wich kills it faster than a allo facetanking trample is so annoying for that the hitbox is 360 and not just infront of the foot
Im gonna have to disagree on Rhamp's F tier choice.
As one of like, 4 Rhampy mains, Rhamp is really good when paired with bleeders like conca or allo. Rhamps buffs really allow for some extra punch to bleed dmg, and plague carrier is a great ano counter.
Rhamps Bloodsuck attack is also great with things like rex and the such cause they get a full 50% turn nerf. On top of that, Rhamp can grant a 10% dmg buff very quickly to allies, and make healing more effective due to Fishy Breath.
I would advocate for at best a high C for Rhampy or a low B at worst, F simply cause it can't deal dmg seems a little harsh imo.
I say these tiers, because Rhampy has the main flaws of things like no dmg, almost oneshot by everything, and Lucky Feather being very inconvenient at times, and not activating on certain dmg sources.
Sorry for the wall of text, great video! God i hope my boy Bars gets some love soon...
Ramph definitely isn't useless, in terms of the context of this tier list it pretty much is though. There are some other comments just like yours about ramph, to which I have said: Fair points! But I did say the list was viewed through the lens of actual combat, so that's why I automatically disqualified it. Ramph does have some cool and useful support abilities, it just has no direct way to make kills.
I probably could have made it more clear that I intended this list to be around fighting/combat specifically, in which Ramph can’t participate because it can’t deal damage. That’s on me!
@@Khanware Ah, I must've missed the first part! Yeah, Rhamp in damage terms is as F as F Tier gets. Maybe Scab Picker dealing like, 10 seconds of bleed could make it more helpful?
@@GizmoTTV Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Adding raw damage to its kit would probably make it way too annoying, but having a small bleed might make it a little more directly useful. Nothing crazy though, like maybe stacking 2 seconds a bite or something would do it. Just would like to see ramph have some ability to deal a tiny bit of damage! Those teeth look too gnarly to not lol
You think Allo will get TLC soon? Like the extra head slot?
Probably not soon, but hopefully. I have a feeling we’ll see miragaia, microraptor, and maybe the bars tlc first
What server do you play on?
We play on officials
Ramph still has more going on with the debuffs than Thalasso or Campto imo
For sure! I just made the list in terms of actual ability to fight, which it can’t, which is why it’s so low down :)
Bars personally would be in B tier for me, as its defense call; lone survivor and defense sub species make it a sheer wall to be messed with since its headbutt is spammable and high damage while its tail attack and tail slam are good for tricking upcoming opponents if you’re attacking with only one or the other, confusing them for a face tank, as I have killed 2 dasps and a rex as a solo bars in impact creator whilst being bone broke for most of it
Its stats are good but more moves in its kit would be really nice, and the only issue with bars is once you catch someone to low health they’re likely to get away because you’ve wasted more than half your stamina trying to keep up
Bars headbutt is actually extremely low damage, it’s 35. It’s hardest hitting ability (tail slam) does 75 so it’s decent. In my experience, bars is just a walking snack bar, never had a problem with killing one, just takes a while. Maybe you’re a really good bars player!
I prefer speed bars against apexes, you can use it to kite them basically. Also, unless your opponent is completely on the defense or if it's a trading hits situation with an apex, you should use tail swipe instead of tail slam. It has the same dps with much less recharge to leave you vulnerable. Headbutt can be useful against smaller enemies but usually isn't a good idea.
Allo really needs the stam usage from the claw attack taken away that’s a dumb decision. A bleeding dino that can’t keep them running because of the stam usage.
My main was the first S tier Dino: Dasp
Ever doing modded guides? Like deimosuchus and austro grab
Right now I only play officials, but maybe at some point in the future I’ll cover mods :)
I disagree with rhamphs placement since it’s a strictly support playable and thought this list is combat based rhamph should definitely be higher if you take into consideration how useful its buffs are, I personally would place rhamph into B to C tier as it can change the outcome of fights with it’s abilities but overall I think this is the best tier list I’ve seen currently. I just hope they nerf things like dasps crazy bb if not remove it, nerf suchos barrage dmg, nerf achillos shred and boost its pounce requirement to 6k or above because solo achillo shreds stego sadly and nerf anos tail aoe
Yeah ramph can be a pretty strong support if played right! Only reason I placed ramph so low is cause I was basing this tier list off of ability to fight and then adding on bonuses like healing/support buffs, and since ramph can’t deal damage, it got an F. Sorry if that wasn’t clear!
@@Khanware no no that’s fine I just thought that though rhamph can’t fight it should have been higher then f tier but i understand your reasoning for putting it there 😊
So im just a dinosaur enthusiast in general who has a passing interest in this game. Im not super familiar with the community. These nicknames have me pretty dang confused. I still got most of them but it was hella confusing.
Most of these nicknames (as you probably guessed) come right from the game itself. If you Google, "Path of Titans dino stats wiki" and scroll down, you'll see a list of all their full names and be able to see where the abbreviated versions come from :)
Magalania sucho sarco are my mains to me there all op
Honestly rex is kinda bad atm. I like it bad tho. It deserves to be bad for once. Its ass turn radius and bad tail attack make it easy prey for a small pack of small/mid tiers. Me and a buddy took two down with just two ceras
you forgot that an anno can esily be killed if a sarco clamps him and holds him or the sarco clamps him and drops him making it reset the hunker down but that also forces you to play near the water unless the sarco is super brave lol
Yes, but you're practically throwing if you play near sarco infested waters with ano lol
Bro i take everything back abt sarco and alberta bc back then i still played on community servers and never played againt ppl who are actually good at the game😂
Welcome to officials 😂 There is a very wide skill range of players here
I don't think you've played much Bars lately my guy, that thing is still really op. Pretty much the only thing that can kill it for sure is a larger pack of medium-sized carnis. Rex can be a tough fight but can be won with relative ease if you can avoid bonebreak. Spino is usually easy kill. Achilos are probably the biggest threat to bars, but still manageable for a good player, and if all else fails you can just escape into deep water.
So a lot of people have said, I still find it hard to believe though. Spino I could see losing, but I don't think a rex or eo should be losing at all (I heard they just made bars' tail slam AoE bigger so maybe that will help)
@@Khanware personally I use speed bars and in my experience beating a rex is usually a matter of avoiding bone break, and eo can go either way but it's possible to kill one by kiting if you have enough stam.
@@matyaskassay4346 interesting, I never considered speed bars. Well I know bars can beat rex and eo, I’m just saying it shouldn’t easily lol. I feel like if the rex or eo know what they’re doing, they shouldn’t lose
do you play on servers with modded dinos? a modded tier list would be really cool
At the moment I only play officials, but maybe someday I’ll try mods out
I would appreciate you saying the full names I don’t really know who you’re talking about half the time
Pretty much everyone uses the abbreviated names in game because the full names are more cumbersome. If you go to the Path of Titans wiki, you can see a full list of all dinos in the game with their full names. That might help you see which is which better if you’re new
@@Khanware thanks
the ano should be in A tier cuz ur able to move ano out of their hunker by pushing them as maybe something bigger
Yeah, that’s not intended. I assume it’ll be fixed soon but who knows
It was fixed last patch actually, or was ment to be,( I don't play ano) anos only counter now is sarcos.
That got removed in the most recent patch. Apparently it wasnt intended. Wish it was though, as ano is a menace rn and not being able to knock it out off hunker down kinda just makes it impossible to interact with.
@@Saphira3441 not fixed
Did they patch today? Because I was lifting anos out of hunker with sucho last night lol. So 12 hours ago I can confirm it wasn’t fixed
Noticed raptors started to do bleed again? I got jumped by some
When I joined u guys and they gave me the bleed affect but I don’t think they actually gave the bleed do damage
Huh don’t think I’ve seen that. Sounds like a bug
Maybe all the Bars player I go against are really good, but I struggle to kill one
bars is really good, I honestly don't understand that placement.
You’re wrong about thal. I’ve been hunting hatz and quetz and anos as thal… they’re great at that but not much else. The dive bomb does hella damage to flyers!
Yeah they can ram, which I think was an unintended byproduct lol. They are quite good at ramming hatz!
Conc is amazing tho. I’ve killed apexes with it. I defended myself from 2 utahs and 1 kel. Conc has good stam, good damage, good bleed and good in packs
@@Mrmilk8982 this is an officials tier list, so I can’t speak to conc’s modded performance
@@Khanware what are talking about? It’s the vanilla conc I’m talking about
@@Khanware there is no modded conc
@@Mrmilk8982 Not what I meant. I meant conc on modded servers vs modded Dinos. Utahs and kels aren’t on officials.
@@Khanware well Utah and kel are very powerful. And I killed a adult Rex with conc
i solo a dasp as an adolescent cerato XD
Sick
Raptors! Where you at!?
i think, bars deserves better. i as a bars main (ofc i'm mad about it being in d tier lol) kill rexes/ eos and spino. i never die against of the apex'. he ain't that bad even if it's not that fast, it can outrun a rex, if it is the right species!
I’ve seen a lot of people say something like this. No hate to you bars mains, maybe you all are just S tier bars players lol. I’ve never had much trouble taking down bars myself, so I’m not convinced. I’d like to test it out in some 1v1 scenarios now
This is just because I’m an Alio main (yes even in the current meta) but I will always critique people’s placement of Alio. It’s the second fastest thing in the game, it can be a good support dinosaur, and makes for the single best pick class in the game. (To summarize what a pick class is, you go in and Finnish off weak dinosaurs your group mates can’t catch) While it’s true a solo Alio isn’t that great, in the right hands, an Alio can be quite the opponent. (And if anyone is wondering, I’d place Alio in B tier. It works really well when you acquire the skill, but that skill floor is by far the highest in the game)
I love alio, used to play it all the time. Sad it’s been nerfed so much. It’s role as a finisher is decent, but I ranked it where I did because this was more of an overall look at how Dinos perform in combat, ability to kill, and escape. And while alio can definitely escape, it’ll have a lot of trouble bringing down most dinos in its current state if they aren’t already weakened first
@@Khanware if i were to give it a buff, i'd 100% increase it's turn radius
Alio does not have a high skill floor. It has a bite and tail attack lmao
@@WhoCaresAbtU a mindset like that goes to show exactly how you view combat in this game. You could have a thousand different attack abilities and be the worst playable in the game, Alio doesn’t need a lot of abilities to be good, it already has a good kit if you know how to utilize it
Ive killed suchos and lambs, and also concs, with a struthi
This tier list was made before the Struth tlc iirc
Iggy gotta be in A tier, has the speed, stamina, devastating back kick and just bulky. I kill things all the time that underestimate me. Just recently had a good 1v1 with a sucho and won easily, also allo should not be beating any good iggy in a 1v1. I’m defense sub species and run traction. I just tail kite all day until they get annoyed and get to close for my kick and the occasional stabbing
@@glencoco688 I used to fight pre-nerf iggy’s on my cerato and kentro and consistently win. Once you learn how to kite it, it’s not hard to land hits without being hit. And that was pre nerf iggy. I can’t speak to your experience, but sucho shouldn’t be losing a fight to an iggy, especially a defense one. Defense iggy drops its speed to match sucho’s at 950, so once the sucho is in range, it should be game over for the iggy if the sucho is any good. The nerfs iggy took just hit it a little too hard imo. Pre nerf iggy I would’ve been fine with putting in A.
@@Khanwarethat’s where traction iggy comes in and then you have a way tighter turn circle to avoid the claw barrage max damage. Trust me it’s a game changer. Overall great video man, earned a new sub💪🏽
Ano needs a reworck
You mean rework right?
@@Dem1z_ yes
Is starting from F to S an indicator of strength?
What do you mean by strength? Raw damage? Or just how currently strong a Dino is?
For me conc IS low A It has op dps 60 per bite and IS Pretty spammable and the bleed IS op and in packs destroys apexes except for Eo and deinoc i mean i killed allos,lambs solo and in packs of 2 rex and suchos u just need to play it right.
I think conc is definitely a little better than Meg, it just loses to most other mid tiers around its size pretty easily unless it escapes to water
@@Khanware most of them use the wrong build to PvP using claws and with that i have Pretty bad turning but if u have balanced claws It turns very very good and u can easily outmaneuver a metri or cera.
@@srconc-ks3mi If you use balanced claws, you lose your main bleeding ability. Then you’re just a worse Cera with lower health.
@@TheBr0seph nuh uh u can use ripping Kick It has same bleed and far more dmg and can be used to brake check and create distance same as achillo.Only downside is that It uses stam but thats It.
@@srconc-ks3mi yeh, but it drains stamina and isn’t a consistent source of damage. Also, conc has 475hp. That alone makes it not worthy of A tier. Cera and Achillo have 600.
So is bone break better than face tank or not?
There’s no straight answer. A face tank rex beats a bone break rex in a facetank. A bone break rex has the ability to break/catch prey that get too close, and also has better escapability via bone breaking chasers and taking space. So really just depends on play style/what type of dinos your playing with
@@Khanware
Ok, thx
Why does everyone say amarga is op?
I haven’t heard that much, is that what people are saying lol?
@@KhanwareI haven’t heard about it either but I suppose its because of the tail with the plus knockback sub you are a menace i was chased by a spino and 3 anos got bone broke and was able to use my knockback to keep them away to run and by time they killed me there were all low just from my tail and smaller dinos get flung by the tail
Sorry I have to disagree with you on Stego's placement. As a Stego main I can't do anything with most raptors and I can't out tank anything with more combat weight. I also can't turn well at all. The stamina sucks and so to does the regen. Not to mention if something gets on the front side of you there is nothing you can do but die. You really need to play more Stego if you think it's a solid choice cause tbh Kentro is better atm than Stego.
You’re a stego main but you don’t know that a wound charge attack hits raptors on both slots and both sides of you? It’s a very easy defense mechanism against raptors and does a ton of damage to them. Kentro was absolutely better than steg before its nerfs, but it isn’t anymore. Steg can kill rexes if you play your distancing right. Also run pivot? Pivot allows you to turn in places extremely quickly after standing still for a few seconds. It’s hard to get openings on a pivot steg. I see a lot of people misplaying on steg frequently. The other thing is while steg’s stamina regen does suck, solar powered can make it quite good during the day, making it regen 50% faster.
@@Khanware I understand that the charge tail swipe can hit raptors but it can't if those raptors are on the front of your stego. Don't believe me test it for yourself. Stego definitely has its upsides but I think the downsides are much more significant than Kentro. I really believe that the Stego needs something in the front to make it good. I do run Pivot also. Just saying that the Stego is still in need of something even if I myself ain't 100% sure myself.
I think bars should be a bit stronger, it can annihilate apexes easily, literally today I got ambushed by a fg rex with my sub bars and won
Bars should lose a 1v1 against any other apex currently around handily. That rex must've been very new haha
Hard disagree, Bars can pretty easily 1v1 any apex rn@@Khanware
Not in my experience, I’ve never had much trouble killing them before. Most rex/eo players tend not to play properly and just mash attacks, so I would assume they might lose doing that. If played properly, I don’t think bars would stand a chance. Maybe y’all are just S tier bars players lol
Bars is like a forcefield for any herbivore packs, they are an immediate +100 intimidation factor. It's all about sprinting away so the enemy (apex) will hit your tail, and then smack them in the head, the damage tradeoff is unfair for the enemy
And most mid tiers can't do much, raptors are the biggest threat for a bars though. But if the raptor missteps, bars can one shot latens and deinons with one tail slam, and brutally maim achillos
Lol @ D tier Laten's.
The night terror pounce build can solo a ton of dinos at night.
I put it in D tier because you’re almost never scared of a laten. They can be dealt with pretty easily. In theory a campto can also solo many dinos, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a good pick in the current meta. Latens also took a major nerf when they reverted the latch mechanic changes
@@Khanware idk, i can take out basically anything at night, with the mcmasterae subspecies, nightstalker passive, and popping raptor call before pouncing.
Bigger dinos require a couple pounces, but just kite them while you regain stam to pounce again.
A dinos fun and ability to escape danger should also be considered when making tier lists, not just "which animal bites the hardest" or w/e.
But it's your tier list, not mine. 🤷🏼♂️
Adult rhamp is just an ez trophy
"Last but not least" 💀
My tier for official 1 igyy i always fight groups and end them ez and cera is a ez dino for igyy but with the nerf bro its a ez dino for every dino💔
2:25 Pretty decent brawler 😂
Where is parasaurolophus
This is a list of officials dinos. Parasaur isn’t in the game
Honestly Rex is either boring and op (using facetank) or fun to use but really bad (using bonebreak) which kinda makes it boring overall.
@@SputnicWasTaken bonebreak is gud
@@dannyphantom121 removes the defense and gives you shit hp.
How can spino be lower than sucho? A spino will destroy a sucho 1v1 90% of the time..
Because sucho is much more well rounded as a semi aquatic. Sucho is really good in both land water and spino sucks on land
One time I was a Juvie pachy and I killed a Achillo
That’s goofy af haha
wrong with spino. spino wins a facetank against rex with lone survivor equipped and tough scutes. It always wins. I know this because I play spino xD
And even if you lose somehow, you can rear ride the hell out of REX
No it doesn't lmao rex has face tank and deep rumble which give it more defense and it hits harder
Kentro deserved to be overnerfed.