I have a 5 year old PP that is still in great shape. It doesn't fold whatsoever when laying on it's back. But when I come through/scoop ground balls, they are starting to fly out the fingers. Would this be a good candidate to dip and try to get the pocket a little deeper? Or just use traditional water treatment on the pocket only?
I would try a full condition, reglue of the pocket and relace and then try to reshape it at the same time. I would do a little Aso-style hot water on the palm.
YES , but PP’s have the palm liner to worry about. So do Wilson’s but the palm liner on the Rawlings can be sort of delicate. The dipping usually does not cause damage. It’s the drying or lack of that is usually the issue. If you open the heel after you shape it and relace after it’s much better for drying but an extra process. Make sure your water is mineral free or without heavy minerals. Bad water can leave mineral spots on the leather as it dries. For a PP I would use: 110-120 degree water Dip for 20-30 seconds, pushing lightly on hinges as soon as you feel it start to bend it’s done. Max 45 seconds and pull from the water. Squeeze as much water out as you can quickly and then start shaping. Hang dry. No direct fan, it will over dry the leather. Let it dry naturally with some circulation for 2/3/4 days depending on the humidity of your climate. Once dry condition with a natural conditioner to restore some oil content to the glove. Make sure to get all surfaces. I do this by hand. Wait a day or at least an hour before starting to bend on your glove, let it soak in. After that use a Break in Ball to finish shaping / pocket work and start playing catch. Good time to buff the glove as well, the heat brings all of the oil back to the surface of the leather, protecting the leather and making it slightly glossy. Buffed gloves pick up less IF dirt. My experience is that the gloves coming back broken in this way have great pockets and play really good catch for how stiff they still are. That’s the biggest takeaway for me: I can deliver to customers gloves that still look really new, still feels like a $500 glove that hasn’t had someone’s hand in it and hasn’t been beat to crap with a mallet. The gloves are still stiff but with great hinges and a great palm / pocket and they play catch great. So now instead of dropping balls and continually trying to figure your glove out you can just put it on and tweak it a bit and it’s out there able to go 80% game ready right away. I’ve had many customers report receiving their gloves, playing with the shaping a bit at home, bringing it to warmup and then gaming it.
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Happy to find a channel talking about Japanese techniques in English subscribed!!
Thank you Yasha - more on the way.
Good job, awesome video and great tips 👍🏼 thanks
Great video! Keep it up!
Good stuff man, helps a lot
If we send a glove in for breakin can we request this method and pocket
Yes one hundred percent.
I have a 5 year old PP that is still in great shape. It doesn't fold whatsoever when laying on it's back. But when I come through/scoop ground balls, they are starting to fly out the fingers. Would this be a good candidate to dip and try to get the pocket a little deeper? Or just use traditional water treatment on the pocket only?
I would try a full condition, reglue of the pocket and relace and then try to reshape it at the same time. I would do a little Aso-style hot water on the palm.
My Niece wants me to break in her glove a Wilson A2000. What is the best way to do this if my hand can’t fit in her glove?
OPEN the wrist while breaking it in and close it back up!
Do you recommend this for Rawlings pro preferred?
YES , but PP’s have the palm liner to worry about. So do Wilson’s but the palm liner on the Rawlings can be sort of delicate. The dipping usually does not cause damage. It’s the drying or lack of that is usually the issue. If you open the heel after you shape it and relace after it’s much better for drying but an extra process. Make sure your water is mineral free or without heavy minerals. Bad water can leave mineral spots on the leather as it dries.
For a PP I would use:
110-120 degree water
Dip for 20-30 seconds, pushing lightly on hinges as soon as you feel it start to bend it’s done. Max 45 seconds and pull from the water.
Squeeze as much water out as you can quickly and then start shaping.
Hang dry. No direct fan, it will over dry the leather. Let it dry naturally with some circulation for 2/3/4 days depending on the humidity of your climate.
Once dry condition with a natural conditioner to restore some oil content to the glove. Make sure to get all surfaces. I do this by hand. Wait a day or at least an hour before starting to bend on your glove, let it soak in.
After that use a Break in Ball to finish shaping / pocket work and start playing catch. Good time to buff the glove as well, the heat brings all of the oil back to the surface of the leather, protecting the leather and making it slightly glossy. Buffed gloves pick up less IF dirt.
My experience is that the gloves coming back broken in this way have great pockets and play really good catch for how stiff they still are. That’s the biggest takeaway for me:
I can deliver to customers gloves that still look really new, still feels like a $500 glove that hasn’t had someone’s hand in it and hasn’t been beat to crap with a mallet. The gloves are still stiff but with great hinges and a great palm / pocket and they play catch great. So now instead of dropping balls and continually trying to figure your glove out you can just put it on and tweak it a bit and it’s out there able to go 80% game ready right away. I’ve had many customers report receiving their gloves, playing with the shaping a bit at home, bringing it to warmup and then gaming it.
What would you recommend for super skin gloves? Full dip or just pouring water?
If it has limited Superskin, like one finger panel, but otherwise probably not.
Does the water need to be hot or room temperature?
Hot around 120 F
Awesome! How long do you need to keep it submerged?
Should I condition or use glove oil on the glove once fully dried?
Yes you should. Use something natural.
does this also work well for catchers mitts?
If the leather is stiff and good quality it does.
How hot should the water be
~105 / 110 F works well. Not too hot. Not too long. Make sure you dry your glove!!!
Hiw long do you dip it and at what temp?
115 F for 5-10 minutes
youmomi sarvice!
I want my palm to soften naturally, so i dunk it in water?!TF ,,
Maybe YUMOMI will be the first Japanese word commonly used in the global baseball community!
It might be. That would be pretty rad. Let's keep it going!!!