Barbara Hershey working real hard to keep up with him. Doing a great job but you can see his incredible strength and the corners it backs her (and her character) into. He jumps through every stage of grieving in this short little scene. Love it.
" If Jesus came back ,and saw what was being done in His name, He'd never stop throwing up" One of the best lines ever!! This brilliant acting force of nature will be missed
Frederick is one of my all-time favorite film characters. I think because I view the world the same way he does. I love the way in another scene he refuses to "Sell my art by the yard". A true artist that would rather his art be understood and appreciated for the right reasons rather than for the money.
Me and my ex husband used to recite this bit over and over ! I would always say to him "lighten up , Frederick!" RIP Max
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0:53: "It's been ages since I sat in front of the TV, just changing channels to find something. You see the whole culture: Nazis, deodorant salesmen, wrestlers, beauty contests, the talk show. Can you imagine the level of a mind that watches wrestling? But the worst are the fundamentalist preachers. Third-rate conmen telling the poor suckers that watch them that they speak for Jesus. And to please send in money, money, money. If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up".
I remember reading that Von Sydow and Hershey had worked this scene out at a much slower pace. Allen's one direction to them was to speed it up. They were both excellent in the film, and she was never better. One of her best performances (along with the neglected wife in Barry Levinson's Tin Men).
Utter genius - this scene and the whole film, filled with brilliant acting, direction and dialogue: "If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name he'd never stop throwing up" is an incredible line. Hilarious and dramatic at the same time - Woody Allen reaches these heights often, but never as consistently in one film as this. Definitely his magnum opus.
This scene reminds me of a play. One long shot. I read somewhere years ago that after that scene ends the crew all clapped for them bc it was so well done.
EXTERIOR: NABOO LAKE RETREAT, WATER SPEEDER, LANDING PLATFORM - LATE AFTERNOON We briefly hold on a lovely terrace as ANAKIN, wearing his Jedi robe, appears nearby. He looks out across the garden and the film cuts to his point of view: the shimmering lake and the mountains rising beyond. The movie goes back to the impatient Anakin; he's looking around him. He glances at the terrace as the film cuts back once again to the lake, where Padme finally appears, walking down the street away from Anakin. A waterspeeder passes. Padme doesn't see him. She walks further and further away; she disappears behind a hill. Anakin frantically looks around again; then, in a burst of decision, he runs down the staircase, crossing the garden, and still running, he races across the field, as the film cuts back to Padme, walking down towards a different lake, oblivious. Cantina jazz plays on as the movie cuts back and forth between the fast-moving Anakin, rushing down the Naboo landscape, past a dewback, past a tour guide leading a group of Jawas, - and the strolling Padme, lost in her delicate reveries. Padme eventually reaches a balustrade, still lost in thought, glancing right and left, as Anakin, pretending nonchalance, waits on the corner, fiddling with his lightsaber. She looks up in surprise; the music stops. ANAKIN (trying not to sound out of breath) Oh, my goodness! PADME (overlapping, smiling in surprise) Oh, Ani! ANAKIN Hi. PADME (smiling) What are you doing here? ANAKIN (looking around, gesturing) Well, I'm-I'm looking for some power converters.
PADME (overlapping, pointing) Uh, yeah, a replica of the Tosche Station. A couple of blocks from here. If you don't know about it, you should. You'd really love it. ANAKIN Yes? PADME (nodding) Yeah, you would. ANAKIN (looking around for a moment, then gesturing to PADME) Well, i-if-if you have some free time... PADME (nodding) Yeah, sure. (chuckling) ANAKIN Thank you. They begin to walk again as the movie cuts to the interior of the Tosche Station, a serious replica of the Tatooine original. The main building houses recharge facilities, a sales office, and a game room. A nude print hangs at the end of the reactor area, which holds a fusion generator from an in-system space barge. An unseen ANAKIN and PADME carry on a conversation as the camera moves down an aisle, past a large model of a moisture farm. A piano playing the cantina theme is heard. PADME (offscreen) Isn't this great? (chuckling) They have everything here. ANAKIN (offscreen, distracted) Yes, it's-it's wonderful. PADME (offscreen) What power converter did you want to buy? ANAKIN Anything compatible with a T-14 hyperdrive generator. PADMÉ There was a very old man who lived on this island. He used to make glass out of sand - and vases and necklaces out of the glass. They were magical. ANAKIN (looks into her eyes) Everything here is magical. PADME (offscreen) Your T-14? ANAKIN Huh? PADME You wanted to buy a T-14? The camera moves past another aisle to reveal PADME, browsing through a shelf of power converters. ANAKIN (offscreen) Oh, a T-14? Oh, no, I... (laughing) I'm killing time. I...I-I just, uh, w-want to browse, uh... PADME (looking up at a row of dehumifiers) Well, you sure picked the right place. I mean, you can stay here all afternoon, not buy anything and just look. She walks down a center aisle, the camera still in its parallel aisle, following her. ANAKIN (offscreen) Unless, of course, if-if you had some time, I mean, we could get some Yatooni Boska. PADME Didn’t I just say I was in AA? ANAKIN No, no - just because the dewback sweat is fermented doesn’t mean it’s alcoholic! PADME Well, maybe not - but it sure is disgusting. ANAKIN Depends. Better than drinking sand. PADME gives him a quizzical look. She stops at the row where ANAKIN has been browsing. She is hidden by a shelf; only ANAKIN is seen as he talks to the offscreen PADME. ANAKIN (gesturing) I’m sorry. I-I-I understand completely. No problem. Y-you're probably lactose intolerant. I-I-I… I can - I built a droid module that removes gluten! It turns it into a kind of cheese. - I - I - I’m sorry, that sounds gross. It isn’t that bad, it’s sorta like Tatooni Junko - oh, I’m sorry, now I sound like a Hutt; I’m... PADME (offscreen, chuckling) You seem tense. Is everything all right? You feel okay? ANAKIN (overlapping) No! No... PADME (offscreen) No? ANAKIN (gesturing, looking at holograms) Uh, yes! PADME (offscreen) You could look into those vases and see the water. The way it ripples and moves. It looked so real... but it wasn't. ANAKIN Sometimes, when you believe something to be real, it becomes real. They look into each other's eyes. The tension mounts. PADME smiles and walks down the center aisle, in the same direction she had come. Anakin continues to talk to her as she remains offscreen in a nearby row. ANAKIN (offscreen momentarily, hidden by a shelf as he talks) Sometimes.
The lake outside the station. PADME, holding the hologram in a plastic bag, and ANAKIN are walking out. PADME (laughing, holding up the bag) Pretty soon, these are gonna be illegal! ANAKIN Cuomo’s such a douche. PADME Right? ANAKIN (pointing to the station) Thanks for showing me the T-14s. Perhaps you could, uh, take me to an AA meeting sometime. Uh...uh, I'd love to see what goes on. PADME (nodding) Well, yeah, yeah. You'd love it. It's really entertaining. You'd have a good time. (stepping closer to the lake and hailing a waterspeeder) I know you would. ANAKIN (pointing to the hologram) And, uh, d-don't forget the chapter on point a hundred and twelve. It reminded me of you. A waterspeeder pulls over to the dock; they walk over to it. PADME (laughing) Really? Well... ANAKIN opens the sliding door for PADME. She laughs as she gets in. ANAKIN (leaning down to talk to PADME in the speeder) Point a hundred and twelve. PADME Bye. ANAKIN kisses PADMÉ. She doesn't resist. She comes to her senses and pulls away. PADMÉ No, I shouldn't have done that. ANAKIN My bad. When I'm around you, my mind is no longer my own. PADME Yeah. Well… See ya. ANAKIN (closing the sliding door for PADME) Bye. He watches the waterspeeder race away. CUT TO: INT. PADME’S LOFT BEDROOM - NIGHT PADME, in slacks and shirt, is curled up on the bed, her back to the camera, as she watches the blue glow of the hologram. The cantina music is still softly heard. PADME (V.O.) (reading to herself) "I dislike sand I dislike its coarse nature I dislike its rough campaign I dislike its toxic irritation I dislike its quasi-bro culture I dislike the telltale red caps… As PADME continues to read aloud, the movie cuts to ANAKIN's darkened den, lit by a light in the hallway. ANAKIN enters, wearing a robe, crossing the room in the dark. PADME (V.O.) (continuing reading along) "...though it’s not-all-bros, alas! If sand is sifted through the nimble fingers of the powerful hand of the vulnerable hand of the delicate hand of Rupi Thunberg of Greta Kaur of Rupi Gerwig - ah! O! And but my names are all confused, all misconstrued…. Almost as confused , as misconstrued as my gently beating heart... ANAKIN turns on a light. The camera stays on his face as he looks off into the distance, mouthing indistinctly the line of poetry PADME next reads from the hologram. PADME (V.O.) (continuing reading) if you let the sand fall through your fingers if you let the white sand fall between your fingers if you wait for the last grain… if you wait for the single grain before it falls between your long fingers you will find a single cube a tiny cube one tiny cube… one dazzling cube… nobody, not even the rain, has such small hands: The film leaves ANAKIN's face and cuts back to the loft...
PADME (V.O.) (continuing reading) Hashtag not all sand. ...where PADME, having finished the poem, sits up in the bed, staring pensively, lost in her thoughts.
I’m in love with a man named Dave he is from Toronto . He pops by my store a lot . There is this feeling I have when I see him and we talk . Time stands still anything or any anxiety falls away … I don’t know what to do … this is my favourite movie of all time .
So they did a breakdown of that one very line from this movie...And the polar opposites of those that watch wrestling, and those that create wrestling. Explaining the psychology that goes behind a display such as pro wrestling. Which in some circles can seem “lowbrow“ (at least from an audience standpoint). Yet it is all orchestrated by brilliant minds in order to captivate an audience and psychologically tell a story. ... basically keep them watching no different than a soap opera
@@TiltBrook I've been creating TV programming for 3+ decades. The minds that create the tripe are generally quite clever. If only they could use that evil for good ;-)
The Barbara Hershey character, Lee, is the beautiful middle sister with potential but no direction. So I buy that she'd be under the spell of some brilliant, stern-fatherly older man who explains everything and imposes order on her life. Frederick thinks she's leaving him for a younger man, and she's actually dumping him for another fiftysomething father figure (played by Michael Caine), and that's an even more problematic relationship. But I'll stop there. Good film, one of WA's best.
It was a different time and a different place, with different values. I lived I'm Manhattan back then and young, intelligent, attractive women were often drawn to older, erudite men. The "coin of the realm" (so to speak) back then was an educated intelligence. Later, after everything became Yuppified, I moved to a Sunbelt "Edge City" where the Coin of the Realm is chiefly wealth and social status.
@@simonboccanegra3811 Love this film but I always wondered if Lee was the middle sister or the youngest. To me, Diane Weist as Holly was classic middle sister.
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"Can you imagine the level of a mind that watches wrestling" has always been one of my personal favorite lines.
Barbara Hershey working real hard to keep up with him. Doing a great job but you can see his incredible strength and the corners it backs her (and her character) into. He jumps through every stage of grieving in this short little scene. Love it.
Farewell, Max von Sydow...
" If Jesus came back ,and saw what was being done in His name, He'd never stop throwing up"
One of the best lines ever!! This brilliant acting force of nature will be missed
Quite an ironic line considering the fact that Von Sydow played Jesus at one time (Stevens', "The Greatest Story Ever Told").
@@darryljorden9177 yes! He was fabulous as Jesus!!
@@darryljorden9177 And Barbara played Mary Magdalene
MERRIN !!!!
Frederick is one of my all-time favorite film characters. I think because I view the world the same way he does. I love the way in another scene he refuses to "Sell my art by the yard". A true artist that would rather his art be understood and appreciated for the right reasons rather than for the money.
This movie is brilliant after all these years. I play this all the time with my 5 hr drive to San Diego.
one of my favorite woody allen scenes...i'm grateful for the few people who watched this and get it :-)
Me and my ex husband used to recite this bit over and over ! I would always say to him "lighten up , Frederick!" RIP Max
0:53: "It's been ages since I sat in front of the TV, just changing channels to find something.
You see the whole culture:
Nazis, deodorant salesmen, wrestlers, beauty contests, the talk show.
Can you imagine the level of a mind that watches wrestling?
But the worst are the fundamentalist preachers. Third-rate conmen telling the poor suckers that watch them that they speak for Jesus.
And to please send in money, money, money.
If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop throwing up".
this is it, this is the whole culture wrapped up by Woody!
yesss! that's my favorite part of the film...all you just said. even now, with OUR contemporary society, with our tv, culture, etc...its worse.
Hey! I used to watch wrestling!-Carol.
I remember reading that Von Sydow and Hershey had worked this scene out at a much slower pace. Allen's one direction to them was to speed it up. They were both excellent in the film, and she was never better. One of her best performances (along with the neglected wife in Barry Levinson's Tin Men).
Utter genius - this scene and the whole film, filled with brilliant acting, direction and dialogue: "If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name he'd never stop throwing up" is an incredible line. Hilarious and dramatic at the same time - Woody Allen reaches these heights often, but never as consistently in one film as this. Definitely his magnum opus.
Agreed. I would only offer up Crimes and Misdemeanors as a possible winner to the crown. It, too, is an utter and absolute masterpiece.
YES!! I've always LOVED that line! Hands down my fave Allen film! RIP to one of the true greats...
An utterly perfect film.
la meilleure scène de tout le film...
It always cracks me up ! Terrific lines!
Max Von Sydow really is the best part of this movie
I agree with you 100 % Carlos.
You are my only connection to the world!! LOL
My favorite line!
Nothing to LOL about. I've been there and know what it feels like.
@@outernothingness1177 I've been on both sides of it.
@@outernothingness1177 lord, me too.
@@katharinehorowitz1709 God bless you. Come to think of it, God bless us all.
This scene reminds me of a play. One long shot. I read somewhere years ago that after that scene ends the crew all clapped for them bc it was so well done.
2:09 Who's checking their phone but can't see any message?
Barbara Hershey was even hotter with wet hair. Gorgeous lady
And to think nobody notices your ingenious use of this scene in _Attack of the Clones_
EXTERIOR: NABOO LAKE RETREAT, WATER SPEEDER, LANDING
PLATFORM - LATE AFTERNOON
We briefly hold on a lovely terrace as ANAKIN, wearing his Jedi robe, appears nearby. He
looks out across the garden and the film cuts to his point of
view: the shimmering lake and the mountains
rising beyond.
The movie goes back to the impatient Anakin; he's looking
around him. He glances at the terrace as the film cuts back
once again to the lake, where Padme finally appears,
walking down the street away from Anakin. A waterspeeder passes. Padme doesn't see him. She walks further and further away; she disappears behind a hill.
Anakin frantically looks around again; then, in a burst of
decision, he runs down the staircase, crossing the
garden, and still running, he races across the field,
as the film cuts back to Padme, walking down towards a different
lake, oblivious.
Cantina jazz plays on as the movie cuts back and forth between
the fast-moving Anakin, rushing down the Naboo landscape, past
a dewback, past a tour guide leading a group of Jawas, - and the strolling Padme,
lost in her delicate reveries.
Padme eventually reaches a balustrade, still lost in thought, glancing
right and left, as Anakin, pretending nonchalance, waits on
the corner, fiddling with his lightsaber. She looks up in surprise;
the music stops.
ANAKIN
(trying not to sound
out of breath)
Oh, my goodness!
PADME
(overlapping, smiling
in surprise)
Oh, Ani!
ANAKIN
Hi.
PADME
(smiling)
What are you doing here?
ANAKIN
(looking around, gesturing)
Well, I'm-I'm looking for some
power converters.
PADME
(overlapping, pointing)
Uh, yeah, a replica of the Tosche
Station. A couple of blocks from here. If
you don't know about it, you should.
You'd really love it.
ANAKIN
Yes?
PADME
(nodding)
Yeah, you would.
ANAKIN
(looking around for a
moment, then gesturing
to PADME)
Well, i-if-if you have some free
time...
PADME
(nodding)
Yeah, sure.
(chuckling)
ANAKIN
Thank you.
They begin to walk again as the movie cuts to the interior
of the Tosche Station, a serious replica of the Tatooine original.
The main building houses recharge facilities, a sales office,
and a game room.
A nude print hangs at the end of the reactor area,
which holds a fusion generator from an in-system space barge.
An unseen ANAKIN and PADME carry on a conversation as the
camera moves down an aisle, past a large model of a moisture farm.
A piano playing the cantina theme is heard.
PADME
(offscreen)
Isn't this great?
(chuckling)
They have everything here.
ANAKIN
(offscreen, distracted)
Yes, it's-it's wonderful.
PADME
(offscreen)
What power converter did you want to buy?
ANAKIN
Anything compatible with a
T-14 hyperdrive generator.
PADMÉ
There was a very old man who
lived on this island. He
used to make glass out of sand -
and vases and necklaces
out of the glass. They were magical.
ANAKIN
(looks into her eyes)
Everything here is magical.
PADME
(offscreen)
Your T-14?
ANAKIN
Huh?
PADME
You wanted to buy a T-14?
The camera moves past another aisle to reveal PADME,
browsing through a shelf of power converters.
ANAKIN
(offscreen)
Oh, a T-14? Oh, no, I...
(laughing)
I'm killing time. I...I-I just,
uh, w-want to browse, uh...
PADME
(looking up at a row
of dehumifiers)
Well, you sure picked the right
place. I mean, you can stay here
all afternoon, not buy anything and
just look.
She walks down a center aisle, the camera still in its
parallel aisle, following her.
ANAKIN
(offscreen)
Unless, of course, if-if you had
some time, I mean, we could get
some Yatooni Boska.
PADME
Didn’t I just say I was in AA?
ANAKIN
No, no - just because the dewback
sweat is fermented doesn’t mean it’s
alcoholic!
PADME
Well, maybe not - but it sure is
disgusting.
ANAKIN
Depends. Better than drinking sand.
PADME gives him a quizzical look. She stops at the row
where ANAKIN has been browsing. She is
hidden by a shelf; only ANAKIN is seen as he talks to the
offscreen PADME.
ANAKIN
(gesturing)
I’m sorry. I-I-I understand completely.
No problem. Y-you're probably
lactose intolerant. I-I-I… I can - I built
a droid module that removes gluten! It
turns it into a kind of cheese. - I - I -
I’m sorry, that sounds gross. It isn’t that
bad, it’s sorta like Tatooni Junko - oh,
I’m sorry, now I sound like a Hutt; I’m...
PADME
(offscreen, chuckling)
You seem tense. Is everything all
right? You feel okay?
ANAKIN
(overlapping)
No! No...
PADME
(offscreen)
No?
ANAKIN
(gesturing, looking
at holograms)
Uh, yes!
PADME
(offscreen)
You could look into those vases
and see the water. The
way it ripples and moves. It
looked so real... but it
wasn't.
ANAKIN
Sometimes, when you believe
something to be real,
it becomes real.
They look into each other's eyes. The tension mounts.
PADME smiles and walks down the center aisle, in the same
direction she had come. Anakin continues to talk to her as
she remains offscreen in a nearby row.
ANAKIN
(offscreen
momentarily, hidden
by a shelf as he talks)
Sometimes.
The lake outside the station. PADME, holding the hologram in
a plastic bag, and ANAKIN are walking out.
PADME
(laughing, holding up
the bag)
Pretty soon, these are gonna be illegal!
ANAKIN
Cuomo’s such a douche.
PADME
Right?
ANAKIN
(pointing to the station)
Thanks for showing me the T-14s.
Perhaps you could, uh, take me to
an AA meeting sometime. Uh...uh,
I'd love to see what goes on.
PADME
(nodding)
Well, yeah, yeah. You'd love it.
It's really entertaining. You'd
have a good time.
(stepping closer to
the lake and hailing
a waterspeeder)
I know you would.
ANAKIN
(pointing to the hologram)
And, uh, d-don't forget the chapter on
point a hundred and twelve. It
reminded me of you.
A waterspeeder pulls over to the dock; they walk over to it.
PADME
(laughing)
Really? Well...
ANAKIN opens the sliding door for PADME. She laughs as she gets
in.
ANAKIN
(leaning down to talk
to PADME in the speeder)
Point a hundred and twelve.
PADME
Bye.
ANAKIN kisses PADMÉ. She doesn't resist. She comes to her
senses and pulls away.
PADMÉ
No, I shouldn't have done that.
ANAKIN
My bad. When I'm around you,
my mind is no longer my own.
PADME
Yeah. Well… See ya.
ANAKIN
(closing the sliding
door for PADME)
Bye.
He watches the waterspeeder race away.
CUT TO:
INT. PADME’S LOFT BEDROOM - NIGHT
PADME, in slacks and shirt, is curled up on the bed, her back
to the camera, as she watches the blue glow of the hologram.
The cantina music is still softly heard.
PADME (V.O.)
(reading to herself)
"I dislike sand
I dislike its coarse nature
I dislike its rough campaign
I dislike its toxic irritation
I dislike its quasi-bro culture
I dislike the telltale red caps…
As PADME continues to read aloud, the movie cuts to ANAKIN's
darkened den, lit by a light in the hallway. ANAKIN enters,
wearing a robe, crossing the room in the dark.
PADME (V.O.)
(continuing reading along)
"...though it’s not-all-bros,
alas! If sand is sifted
through the nimble fingers
of the powerful hand
of the vulnerable hand
of the delicate hand
of Rupi Thunberg
of Greta Kaur
of Rupi Gerwig
- ah! O! And but my names
are all confused, all misconstrued….
Almost as confused
, as misconstrued
as my gently beating heart...
ANAKIN turns on a light. The camera stays on his face as he
looks off into the distance, mouthing indistinctly the line
of poetry PADME next reads from the hologram.
PADME (V.O.)
(continuing reading)
if you let the sand
fall through your fingers
if you let the white sand
fall between your fingers
if you wait for the last grain…
if you wait for the single grain
before it falls
between your long fingers
you will find a single cube
a tiny cube
one tiny cube…
one dazzling cube…
nobody, not even the rain, has
such small hands:
The film leaves ANAKIN's face and cuts back to the loft...
PADME (V.O.)
(continuing reading)
Hashtag not all sand.
...where PADME, having finished the poem, sits up in the bed,
staring pensively, lost in her thoughts.
Brilliant dialogue and of course very funny.
DISGUSTING THAT HE WASN'T NOMINATED FOR BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR !! HE STEALS AND OWNED THIS SCENE !!"
Best movie tirade ever!
Great scene, excellent actor. Barbra Hershey beautiful
GOAAADDddd, I should have married you, years ago.
I’m in love with a man named Dave he is from Toronto . He pops by my store a lot . There is this feeling I have when I see him and we talk . Time stands still anything or any anxiety falls away … I don’t know what to do … this is my favourite movie of all time .
You don't know what do to? Ask him if he's seen this movie. And then suggest you watch it together. And then ... whatever.
I have the "weed"
who is alexiskras?
I got the same alert. Bizarre.
1:08 gold
So they did a breakdown of that one very line from this movie...And the polar opposites of those that watch wrestling, and those that create wrestling. Explaining the psychology that goes behind a display such as pro wrestling. Which in some circles can seem “lowbrow“ (at least from an audience standpoint). Yet it is all orchestrated by brilliant minds in order to captivate an audience and psychologically tell a story. ... basically keep them watching no different than a soap opera
@@TiltBrook I've been creating TV programming for 3+ decades. The minds that create the tripe are generally quite clever. If only they could use that evil for good ;-)
this is true
Be honest, anyone here after watching "Beyond the Mat"
This guy probably is smart, but how the HELL did he get this broad?? She's wayyy too young and good looking 4 him.
Some women will marry anything.
@@m.e.d.7997 Good point, however this guy is really a jerk.
The Barbara Hershey character, Lee, is the beautiful middle sister with potential but no direction. So I buy that she'd be under the spell of some brilliant, stern-fatherly older man who explains everything and imposes order on her life. Frederick thinks she's leaving him for a younger man, and she's actually dumping him for another fiftysomething father figure (played by Michael Caine), and that's an even more problematic relationship. But I'll stop there. Good film, one of WA's best.
It was a different time and a different place, with different values. I lived I'm Manhattan back then and young, intelligent, attractive women were often drawn to older, erudite men. The "coin of the realm" (so to speak) back then was an educated intelligence. Later, after everything became Yuppified, I moved to a Sunbelt "Edge City" where the Coin of the Realm is chiefly wealth and social status.
@@simonboccanegra3811 Love this film but I always wondered if Lee was the middle sister or the youngest. To me, Diane Weist as Holly was classic middle sister.