The latter is correct. I didn't know either, but that's how the ASUS folks pronounce it in all the official Asus videos. I used to pronounce it same as rogue, as I thought it sounded cooler. I was just struggling with the control modes last night while setting up the melonDS emulator, until I also realized that I had to switch modes back and forth to configure the controls. Once I had it set up, Mario Kart worked great, while only sipping about 10W from the battery. Of course the Wii (and higher) versions of Mario Kart look much better, but I was just testing the melonDS emulator.
8:45 is why these Windows / SteamOS handhelds will always be niche devices that are primarily for adults. The people saying the Steam Deck was a "Switch killer" are out of their mind. You can literally open up a brand new Switch and be playing a game in less than five minutes. Even the Steam Deck, which is one of the easier handhelds to set up, took over a half an hour with all the updates, game downloads, logins, launcher integration, etc. Plus fiddling with settings to get the best battery life out of it is a constant headache, where on the Switch, you just pick up and play.
Your so right about that. The handheld pc market will stay Niche for a bit more. Its not ready for mainstream market as of yet. We are still in the early stages. Still amazing to see AAA titles running on these handheld pcs. Great time to be a gamer.
switch can't handle AAA games, you cant even play call of duty 😅! sd and rog dont take that long to set up and once you have your good to go and can also play switch games
@@dannycampbell7294 I get all my games legally, and I already have a Switch, so there's no need or desire for me emulate. The Switch not having any "AAA" games doesn't really matter to me since I despise Call of Duty and the main games I want the Switch for are all first party Nintendo games. Glad you enjoy your ROG though!
It only took me just one OS update, and a few game download, also are you talking about other launchers like Xbox and EGS? Yeah that's kinda take a while.
@@Jaxv3r My experience might have been skewed because I tried the Aya Neo Air, not the ROG Ally, but setting things up was a nightmare. The Steam Deck was far easier. It looks like ASUS has baked in some custom software to make things easier though. I think I still prefer the ease of use of the Steam Deck but I'm glad there are so many great options coming out finally. How has your experience been with Game Pass on the Ally?
I'm happy to see the handheld gaming market getting some healthy competition again, the future tech that will come from this will be a huge benefit to gamers.
Note to everyone with a ROG Ally. The default power profiles use aggressively low fan speeds and therefore heat becomes an issues at 30w especially for SD cards. You get stutters and you are far from max performance at 30w. Make your own cooling profiles. I use aggressive fan speeds that hit 100% at 80c. I can use 40w profiles this way when plugged in and get even more performance. You can get 30w when not plugged in with manual profiles, but then battery life becomes an issue. I am playing Hogwarts at 40w staying under 85c on medium settings with 40-50 FPS. Nothing beats this handheld right now. I have 4 handhelds including 2 6800u's and the Steamdeck. My Steamdeck cost about the same price and my 6800u handhelds were both over $1k. Viewed through my lens, the Ally is a bargain when actually compared to competitors.
The heat coming out of the exhaust is heating up the MicroSD cards and killing them. Either play with a gimped profile, or don't use MicroSD cards. Either way, unacceptable.
Ive had mine just a few hrs shy of a week now. My openbox deal was a bust but my exchange for new unit has been great. Im mainly a switcher x boxer or clouder. I went into this expecting nothing but problems. I love my device. I keep it at 18 watts and adjust whatever game i throw at it. Rarely go over 60c. Playing mw2 at over 100 fps on 720 maxed out isnt a sacrifice to me its a huge convenience. 6 kids, restaurant manager usually working, got into gaming when i got sober 4 years ago. Hope this device holds out as i am loving it and issues are super minimal. Mainly lack of windows knowledge but the Internet is your friend there.
No issues here. As a gamer of all consoles and windows/dos since the late 80's. Personally I got the Ally as if im getting a gaming laptop on the lower end of course. Got to optimize windows 11 and also keep those drivers and sometimes the bios updated to get the most out of this system. Nice video btw.
Hands down the best review for the Ally so far (and I've watched ALOT of them). I really appreciate that you mentioned video editing and VR. Seeing you use Premiere Pro on this device actually convinced me to take the dive. Keep up the brilliant videos 🎉
I had played a lot of games without connecting to internet besides the first run because windows, I skipped login through. Had 0 issues with 0 updates. Still need to finish debloating all languages versions of the m-f office pre-installed...
I keep hearing mix reviews about it. Personally i want a hanheld kind like the switch where i dont need to fiddle with settings. But i do like some of these handhelds that are coming out. Rog Ally, Steamdeck, Logitech, Ayn odin/loki, onexplayer, ayaneo, etc
For anyone curious about picking up an ROG Ally dont let this disuade you. I have 2 and theyre both amazing. No issues since Day 1 and if either of them did have issues, id return and get a new unit asap! I can play all my favorite eSports games on these at 120FPS comfortably which is all i can ask for :)
Happy for you bro. Did you test fifa 23? Is it smooth at 720p? I am thinking to get ally in near future. Another question. If happes something to joysticks or the buttons can I replace them? I am anxious about that.. thanks 😊
I like this damn thing, it works for me! I just cant believe how much power is in this thing! I know the battery sucks but it really is not that big of a deal to have it plugged in while gaming. The thing no one expects with the ROG ally is the updates, and firmware updates! When you do all that noise it works just fine. I still don't know all the quirks of windows 11 on hand held PCs.
Hey Jason! This was my first visit to your channel. I'm not sure how long you have been on TH-cam but I wanted to say that I was really impressed with how relaxed and professional you are on camera, how in depth and informative your review is, and the lame jokes even made me chuckle a bit. Keep up the good work! I'll throw down a sub and a like.
Its my favourite handheld ever - and ive been handhelding since the original gameboy . It takes time to set up - but once its up and running - its a beautiful manchine . I really liked the Deck but the Ally is a level above .
It's a level above very small level...Steam Deck works very well.. as the Ally has major issues still..so many people returning the Ally because it's very complicated to get windows to work without all the headaches...Linux is made for gaming
@@blastu2fool I understand what your saying but if you like higher frames and 120hz displays the ally is waiting for you. And yea the battery is better on the deck but at the cost of worst performance. I had got my ally and it works perfectly the sound system is the really really good like tbh it has no business being so good a clear. I dropped in call of duty MW2 for the first time with fsr1 medium setting and I’m getting 70-80 fps buttery smooth the 120hz display. The display makes it feel like I’m playing at 120hz all the time. So yea it’s way better than the steam deck performance wise and just living with it
@@blastu2fool once you get it up and running I'd say it's a big step up from the Deck . I managed to get a good working Ally and it's been fantastic ... I liked the Deck but I won't lie - this is better .... Way better screen is actually even more important than the performance boost .
@@blastu2fool yea that sound quality surprised me on the ally. Its like a full 3d soundspace. Its incredible for a handheld device. The deck has good sounding speakers, the ally is a few levels above in terms of quality in my opinion
That login issue would be ultimately solved if only they have sensors for Windows Hello, or at least a fingerprint sensor. GPD Win 4 has such feature on the start. Maybe they planned for Ally users to use Linux on it (because Linux sucks on security hardware integration), but who knows. Edit: I just learned that it does have fingerprint sensor but I won't gonna remove this comment
Everybody is releasing products these days that arent finished. I think the impact would be greater if they didnt say anything ahead of time and just put it out when finished. The one way it might make sense is theyre getting the public to do thier final play testing which might be a little more useful than a regiment of corporateers pulling up to the end of a multi year slog
I'm sure it can be more powerful and do more than Windows someday but Steam Deck isn't even officially available in some countries yet, e.g. Australia, New Zealand and Singapore, etc.
One thing I have noticed. I was playing some indie games on both my Steam Deck and Ally. I made sure to play the same game and set both to 15 w TDP. I was playing the exact same game. The Ally keeps the system at 15 w and I got a bit above an hour of playtime. The Steam Deck regulates the wattage and I was getting nearly 3 hrs of play time. I know that I could have tweaked the Ally, lowering the TDP manually, but the Steam Deck just did it. Thus I will continue to use my Steam Deck for most things and switch to my Ally for the more demanding stuff…battery life matters.
Good points. I might just get the Ally as a gaming PC replacement with peripherals that can do basic work stuff, but hmm, I'll bear the points on docks in mind. I work from a mac, and need a general win pc for boring work stuff too but i dont have the space on my desk. its still not available here in the Philippines for another month, even though we're literally just across the water from HK, Taiwan and Japan (Okinawa), and there is a huge gaming population here that are all about handhelds, doesnt make sense.. If only i can put down for the Ayaneo 2S 💸 that thing looks just 😩✨ imagine vr on that!
I'd keep both of them if I were you or if you can afford it. Hopefully my ROG Ally will arrive next week and I'd love to have a Steam Deck but it's not even officially available in my country yet. I also prefer Windows and don't know if it's a good idea to install Windows on Steam Deck...
It literally run D4 and atomic heart high settings 60fps 1080p with fsr2 dunno about what you expted. Its the best handheld by large margin. I upped the vram setting to 8gb run butter smooth.
the rog ally has a design flaw... the card reader should not be put near the top vents....multiple users reported card reader dead due to too high temperature
Make a custom profile and put your fan curve to max, this fixes it. Im sure Asus will change their performance tabs so they have higher fan curves to prevent this in the next update 👍
These things will last 6-12 months. I had an Asus gaming laptop, and know several friends who had one. I think the longest lasting one was 2 years lmao. Terrible QC
Why isn't there a single reviewer that points out the Steam Deck's battery life is significantly longer than the Ally? They all say the Ally has a short battery life but the Deck does too. None of them mention that the Deck gets about double the battery life on average.
@@JasonRetribution Nope. The Deck gives better battery life across the board. With the Ally if you max it out it can die from a full charge in about 45 minutes. With the Deck if you absolutely max it out it will die in about an hour and a half. Conversely, if you set the power as low as you can to play seriously undemanding games the Ally seems to get about 4 hours where the Deck can get 7 or 8. Just about everything in between scales the same way. For the most part, other than when the Ally is at a higher TDP and outperforms the Deck then the Deck will either give the same performance at a lower TDP or give better performance at the same TDP. Keep in mind that when you set the TDP that depending on certain factors the device might be operating at a TDP lower than what you set. When you have the Deck set to a TDP of 15 but the game is usually only getting the Deck to run at about a TDP of 10 then you will get better battery life than if you set the Ally at a TDP of 15 because it's actually having to run at that TDP of 15 to compete. Obviously, I made up those numbers to make the point.
The ally is just a Better device and when they come out with a battery holder for it that can attach to the back like the deck mate. It will solidify my claim. Steam deck was cool and yea the battery life is better at the cost of worse performance across the board… but hey it has its advantages.. but if you actually played on the ally’s 120hz display then you wouldn’t care that much about battery life and would just wait for a deck mate for the ally because ITS THAT GOOD
@@bandzzman1224 The Ally doesn't have better performance across the board; it has better performance only if you're maxing it out on power draw and therefore get about an hour of battery life. The instant you decide you don't want to hop from one power outlet to the next and therefore lower the graphics you end up with essentially a Steam Deck except no track pads, fewer reprogrmmable buttons, all of that Windows Jank, and a shorter battery life. The Ally is a more-portable laptop with a crappy battery whereas the Deck is a truly portable device.
@@LawlessNate the max tdp on a steam deck is 15w dude. The max on ally is 35w at 10w the ally still performs better then the deck. You obviously never played with the ally before or you wouldn’t had said that. You definitely don’t have to max out the tdp to get better performance.
Sleep mode on the ally is just like any windows pc. Sometimes games will resume without a problem. Sometimes not, and you may get a crash or some glitchy performance that u were not getting before until you restart.. thats windows optimized or not. Most Windows users will know this already. One of the many drawbacks of windows. Everyone has a diff experience, the only way to know is if u get the device and try it out for yourself. If its not for you, return it.
Competition is good. But for now, I'm perfectly fine with the steam deck. I don't want to mis the trackpads and the button layout. Also, as a console gamer, I like the accessibility off the deck. But to each their own! Ps I think both hand-helds serve a different audience, and that's great.
New to pc gaming and windows, I love the rog ally everyone will complain about something yeah battery sucks but I have 65w chargers laying around in house, if we travel like will will in July and August I have an outlet in my mini van and once at the airbnb I have outlets everywhere. I'm not taking my ps5 or series xto play warzone. I don't have to take my ps4 slim now all I need is the charger with hdmi out and I'm good.
When it comes down to it, the Steam Deck just has really great pricing for the performance that hits a sweet spot of being way more powerful than say, my current retroid or anbernic device, but not the eye-watering pricing of these other competitors. If i had infinite money, yeah. This would interest me. But it still feels like paying an early adoptor tax for tech that isn't quite there yet. Also i went to High School with this dude and now he's in my youtube reccs wtf.
That's why I didn't buy one yet.... always wait a year when new tech comes out, that way they work out most all the bugs an it's stable with no headaches, that's what I did with my steam deck, and now I have one that's 3tb and have 208 games in my pocket, Def recommend dbrand killswitch case with screen protector
Why do people care about the extra fps in between the main used ones like 30, 60, and 120. I want it to be able to get those numbers but I rarely ever play with no fps limiter. I hate how it looks running at 80 or 97 fps. I’d rather knock it down to 60 and save some electricity. I get so annoyed when my friends turn off the limiter on games because it gives them 10 more fps when they are at 120 already.
I think its an amazing machine but good god windows is still horrible and janky. I haven't used windows in a few years but its just as bad as i remember. I really dont get how windows can be so janky after being around for 30 to 40 years. You would think they would have it figured out by now. Once you are in a game this thing runs great though. Besides windows and battery life this thing is a beast.
I am not being a smart a. but if I go and rebuy it will you teach me how to work it and you can’t guarantee that Asus will continue to support it they have a bad track record in that department.They do move on to the next thing quickly.Also,can an update that can fix the sd card problem that is now creeping in they are getting so hot they are being ruined I have never seen you before you are really knowledgeable
Doesnt make sense to overlook the lesser 'branded' competition. The 7840u has had better performance with 7500mhz ram in the likes of Aokzoe a1 pro with much better battery life
Kids prefer to get a phone or tablet and some Robux or Minecraft gold. Not one of my nephews even want to play on the Switch. their Christmas wishlist was credit load on Google Play or Robux! Those of us who are interested in x86 handhelds are pretty niche.
Most games you bought on Xbox you can't download on PC. Kinda bullshit I bought cyberpunk,dead space and a few other games on Xbox and I can't play them on the ROG ally. I would have to purchase them on steam now because the games are not available on Microsoft store for PC. A couple of my games did transfer but not many.
The Deck chip is a custom chip designed to get the best performance at low TDP while the Ally chip is just a 7840u with some changes which is designed as a general purpose laptop apu run between 15-30 TDP. It's mainly designed for ultra thin and light laptops. Both the Deck and Ally are limited to 16 GB ram total. My almost 4 year old gaming laptop still get better performance than both the Deck and Ally. Neither of these handhelds are ideal for playing the most demanding PC/console games.
@@nathanlamaire Z1 Extreme sounds more fancy than 7840u. It's the same with anti-gravity cooling system. Asus has a marketing team which tries to make the hardware sound fancier to the average person than it really is. There is nothing "antigravity" about how the Ally cools the apu.
Alot dont realize with rog aly since its windows youre gonna have ALOT of updates to figure out.... and alot pf space is gonna get wasted due to those updates, honestly of you dont know everything needs to update then maybe you should go back to consoles lol i hear the ps5 is ok
The ally does not have enough ram. It’s ram is being shared by the gpu and cpu. Plus slowed down by multiple downloads, web extensions, tabs, background programs and so on
Not only in other markets are steam decks available in a store, but the Z1 extreme Ally is cheaper than a 64GB steam deck also. I guess it shows how much official distribution makes a difference. While I understand the out of box windows startup is lame for something a lot of people just want to play games on, people need to understand that this is what pc hardware is. You’re buying a pc. I do hope microsoft make some changes to windows but I won’t hold my breath for now
You sure about that pricing? Z1 extreme ROG ally is $699 and the 64gb Steamdeck is $399. I even checked other markets like Japan and Taiwan and the prices are pretty similar to USD.
@@JasonWitmerYT I live in south africa. A Z1 extreme Ally is $850 and a 64GB steam deck is $900. A lot of people’s argument of the steam deck being better because of the price is thrown out the window at that point.
If I'm not mistaken, Steam Deck 512gb would cost about the same as ROG Ally Z1 Extreme in Australia but Steam Deck isn't even officially released in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore yet. Crazy. Anyway, I read somewhere that Microsoft is 'developing' Windows for handheld device. Don't know if it's true though.
Just bought it. Amazing after the initial annoying pain in the ass setup and updates. This beast is not for the newbie that does not know how to install updates or mess with bios. This is not play a play out of the box system. This is get it out of the box and be frustrate by bugs and shit that you need to do updates after updates and mess with settings before you get a good thing. If you succeed you will be rewarded. TH-cam is your friend. Oh and the two hours battery life playing at 15W is bullshit. I play Diablo 4 and it does not last two hours and I play at 15W so the battery is weak.
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Thanks for watching! Do you call it ROG or Arr Ohh Gee??
The latter is correct. I didn't know either, but that's how the ASUS folks pronounce it in all the official Asus videos. I used to pronounce it same as rogue, as I thought it sounded cooler.
I was just struggling with the control modes last night while setting up the melonDS emulator, until I also realized that I had to switch modes back and forth to configure the controls. Once I had it set up, Mario Kart worked great, while only sipping about 10W from the battery. Of course the Wii (and higher) versions of Mario Kart look much better, but I was just testing the melonDS emulator.
Republic of Gamers. It makes sense that an acronym should be spelled out rather than pronounced. But you know, whatever, right?
I think its 3 letter like FBI MSI BMW AMD CIA USA etc
i prefer the ROG ally desktop power is crazy!
yes
This thing is amazing, when the software get optimized even more, it will be elite
8:45 is why these Windows / SteamOS handhelds will always be niche devices that are primarily for adults. The people saying the Steam Deck was a "Switch killer" are out of their mind. You can literally open up a brand new Switch and be playing a game in less than five minutes. Even the Steam Deck, which is one of the easier handhelds to set up, took over a half an hour with all the updates, game downloads, logins, launcher integration, etc. Plus fiddling with settings to get the best battery life out of it is a constant headache, where on the Switch, you just pick up and play.
Your so right about that. The handheld pc market will stay Niche for a bit more. Its not ready for mainstream market as of yet. We are still in the early stages. Still amazing to see AAA titles running on these handheld pcs. Great time to be a gamer.
switch can't handle AAA games, you cant even play call of duty 😅! sd and rog dont take that long to set up and once you have your good to go and can also play switch games
@@dannycampbell7294 I get all my games legally, and I already have a Switch, so there's no need or desire for me emulate.
The Switch not having any "AAA" games doesn't really matter to me since I despise Call of Duty and the main games I want the Switch for are all first party Nintendo games. Glad you enjoy your ROG though!
It only took me just one OS update, and a few game download, also are you talking about other launchers like Xbox and EGS? Yeah that's kinda take a while.
@@Jaxv3r My experience might have been skewed because I tried the Aya Neo Air, not the ROG Ally, but setting things up was a nightmare. The Steam Deck was far easier. It looks like ASUS has baked in some custom software to make things easier though. I think I still prefer the ease of use of the Steam Deck but I'm glad there are so many great options coming out finally.
How has your experience been with Game Pass on the Ally?
I'm happy to see the handheld gaming market getting some healthy competition again, the future tech that will come from this will be a huge benefit to gamers.
I think it’s going to get crazy here pretty soon! 🎉
Note to everyone with a ROG Ally. The default power profiles use aggressively low fan speeds and therefore heat becomes an issues at 30w especially for SD cards. You get stutters and you are far from max performance at 30w.
Make your own cooling profiles. I use aggressive fan speeds that hit 100% at 80c. I can use 40w profiles this way when plugged in and get even more performance. You can get 30w when not plugged in with manual profiles, but then battery life becomes an issue.
I am playing Hogwarts at 40w staying under 85c on medium settings with 40-50 FPS. Nothing beats this handheld right now. I have 4 handhelds including 2 6800u's and the Steamdeck. My Steamdeck cost about the same price and my 6800u handhelds were both over $1k. Viewed through my lens, the Ally is a bargain when actually compared to competitors.
NIce, I was getting so annoyed with this thing and really thought about taking it back...glad u mentioned that
It’s bricked two micro sd cards (£200 worth) now for me so if asus doesn’t refund me for this,this thing will have cost me way over a grand. Not happy
Better to let others beta test a new product.
I'm waiting at least 3 months for things to be ironed out, or not..
The heat coming out of the exhaust is heating up the MicroSD cards and killing them. Either play with a gimped profile, or don't use MicroSD cards. Either way, unacceptable.
Ive had mine just a few hrs shy of a week now. My openbox deal was a bust but my exchange for new unit has been great. Im mainly a switcher x boxer or clouder. I went into this expecting nothing but problems. I love my device. I keep it at 18 watts and adjust whatever game i throw at it. Rarely go over 60c. Playing mw2 at over 100 fps on 720 maxed out isnt a sacrifice to me its a huge convenience. 6 kids, restaurant manager usually working, got into gaming when i got sober 4 years ago. Hope this device holds out as i am loving it and issues are super minimal. Mainly lack of windows knowledge but the Internet is your friend there.
WORTH EVERY PENNY LOVE MINE
Same here.
I got mine and zero issues!
@@chronolynx360 can’t wait till they come out with a battery holder for it because then is will solidify that it’s the best handheld out rn
Hope you're right, getting mine in a few days🙏
No issues here. As a gamer of all consoles and windows/dos since the late 80's. Personally I got the Ally as if im getting a gaming laptop on the lower end of course. Got to optimize windows 11 and also keep those drivers and sometimes the bios updated to get the most out of this system. Nice video btw.
Great review. Much more detail than I have seen from anyone else on this product.
Thanks for your support! 🙏
Wow a shockingly fair review. Very refreshing!
Hands down the best review for the Ally so far (and I've watched ALOT of them).
I really appreciate that you mentioned video editing and VR. Seeing you use Premiere Pro on this device actually convinced me to take the dive.
Keep up the brilliant videos 🎉
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the support 🙏
Steam Deck 2 will be awesome!
Steam Deck 1 isn't even officially available in some countries yet, e.g. Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, etc.
Best and most helpful review I've seen so far. I should be getting my ROG Ally next week, hopefully in great condition (not faulty, etc).
I had played a lot of games without connecting to internet besides the first run because windows, I skipped login through. Had 0 issues with 0 updates. Still need to finish debloating all languages versions of the m-f office pre-installed...
I keep hearing mix reviews about it. Personally i want a hanheld kind like the switch where i dont need to fiddle with settings. But i do like some of these handhelds that are coming out. Rog Ally, Steamdeck, Logitech, Ayn odin/loki, onexplayer, ayaneo, etc
100% better than the steam deck anyone who says otherwise is a fanboy
For anyone curious about picking up an ROG Ally dont let this disuade you. I have 2 and theyre both amazing. No issues since Day 1 and if either of them did have issues, id return and get a new unit asap!
I can play all my favorite eSports games on these at 120FPS comfortably which is all i can ask for :)
Happy for you bro. Did you test fifa 23? Is it smooth at 720p? I am thinking to get ally in near future.
Another question. If happes something to joysticks or the buttons can I replace them? I am anxious about that.. thanks 😊
Unrelated but I love that Akari is in the background
Impressed you can see her 🤔 she has like zero presence
I like this damn thing, it works for me! I just cant believe how much power is in this thing! I know the battery sucks but it really is not that big of a deal to have it plugged in while gaming. The thing no one expects with the ROG ally is the updates, and firmware updates! When you do all that noise it works just fine. I still don't know all the quirks of windows 11 on hand held PCs.
Hey Jason! This was my first visit to your channel. I'm not sure how long you have been on TH-cam but I wanted to say that I was really impressed with how relaxed and professional you are on camera, how in depth and informative your review is, and the lame jokes even made me chuckle a bit. Keep up the good work! I'll throw down a sub and a like.
Thanks for the support and kind words 🙏
Its my favourite handheld ever - and ive been handhelding since the original gameboy . It takes time to set up - but once its up and running - its a beautiful manchine . I really liked the Deck but the Ally is a level above .
It's a level above very small level...Steam Deck works very well.. as the Ally has major issues still..so many people returning the Ally because it's very complicated to get windows to work without all the headaches...Linux is made for gaming
@@blastu2fool I understand what your saying but if you like higher frames and 120hz displays the ally is waiting for you. And yea the battery is better on the deck but at the cost of worst performance. I had got my ally and it works perfectly the sound system is the really really good like tbh it has no business being so good a clear. I dropped in call of duty MW2 for the first time with fsr1 medium setting and I’m getting 70-80 fps buttery smooth the 120hz display. The display makes it feel like I’m playing at 120hz all the time. So yea it’s way better than the steam deck performance wise and just living with it
@@bandzzman1224 Agreed...Dolby atmos on the Ally
@@blastu2fool once you get it up and running I'd say it's a big step up from the Deck . I managed to get a good working Ally and it's been fantastic ... I liked the Deck but I won't lie - this is better .... Way better screen is actually even more important than the performance boost .
@@blastu2fool yea that sound quality surprised me on the ally. Its like a full 3d soundspace. Its incredible for a handheld device. The deck has good sounding speakers, the ally is a few levels above in terms of quality in my opinion
Returning mine because of faulty finger print sensor and constant performance issues.
That login issue would be ultimately solved if only they have sensors for Windows Hello, or at least a fingerprint sensor. GPD Win 4 has such feature on the start. Maybe they planned for Ally users to use Linux on it (because Linux sucks on security hardware integration), but who knows.
Edit: I just learned that it does have fingerprint sensor but I won't gonna remove this comment
Hats off to you for producing all this via the Ally 👌
I wish it was more trouble so I can make a bigger deal of it in the video 😂 but it was actually just like using a normal computer
Everybody is releasing products these days that arent finished. I think the impact would be greater if they didnt say anything ahead of time and just put it out when finished. The one way it might make sense is theyre getting the public to do thier final play testing which might be a little more useful than a regiment of corporateers pulling up to the end of a multi year slog
steam OS is a baby, just wait until grows up
I'm sure it can be more powerful and do more than Windows someday but Steam Deck isn't even officially available in some countries yet, e.g. Australia, New Zealand and Singapore, etc.
One thing I have noticed. I was playing some indie games on both my Steam Deck and Ally. I made sure to play the same game and set both to 15 w TDP. I was playing the exact same game. The Ally keeps the system at 15 w and I got a bit above an hour of playtime. The Steam Deck regulates the wattage and I was getting nearly 3 hrs of play time. I know that I could have tweaked the Ally, lowering the TDP manually, but the Steam Deck just did it. Thus I will continue to use my Steam Deck for most things and switch to my Ally for the more demanding stuff…battery life matters.
Good points. I might just get the Ally as a gaming PC replacement with peripherals that can do basic work stuff, but hmm, I'll bear the points on docks in mind. I work from a mac, and need a general win pc for boring work stuff too but i dont have the space on my desk. its still not available here in the Philippines for another month, even though we're literally just across the water from HK, Taiwan and Japan (Okinawa), and there is a huge gaming population here that are all about handhelds, doesnt make sense.. If only i can put down for the Ayaneo 2S 💸 that thing looks just 😩✨ imagine vr on that!
Doubt it will operate for as long as a laptop
@@donniedarko4497 and the deck will? 🙄
I bought one and was planning on selling my steam deck but i just can’t let my steam deck go.
I'd keep both of them if I were you or if you can afford it. Hopefully my ROG Ally will arrive next week and I'd love to have a Steam Deck but it's not even officially available in my country yet. I also prefer Windows and don't know if it's a good idea to install Windows on Steam Deck...
So the chip inside the ROG Ally is "cooler" than the chip inside the steam deck? What is it? Doritos "COOL" ranch chip?🤭
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I use it for Apps and always docked with keyboard and mouse. Diablo IV is only game I have on it and it runs great.
It literally run D4 and atomic heart high settings 60fps 1080p with fsr2 dunno about what you expted. Its the best handheld by large margin. I upped the vram setting to 8gb run butter smooth.
i have a question for u , can you do a video using the rog ally as a pc for 1 week like you do with the deck ? thank you ^^
Loving both this and the deck currently great machines
Im your biggest fan :)
the rog ally has a design flaw... the card reader should not be put near the top vents....multiple users reported card reader dead due to too high temperature
Make a custom profile and put your fan curve to max, this fixes it. Im sure Asus will change their performance tabs so they have higher fan curves to prevent this in the next update 👍
Best ROG Ally Review I've ever seen.
Worst haircut I've ever seen.
These things will last 6-12 months. I had an Asus gaming laptop, and know several friends who had one. I think the longest lasting one was 2 years lmao. Terrible QC
Why isn't there a single reviewer that points out the Steam Deck's battery life is significantly longer than the Ally? They all say the Ally has a short battery life but the Deck does too. None of them mention that the Deck gets about double the battery life on average.
Specifically with much lowered TDP where you're only playing very old games and indies.
@@JasonRetribution Nope. The Deck gives better battery life across the board. With the Ally if you max it out it can die from a full charge in about 45 minutes. With the Deck if you absolutely max it out it will die in about an hour and a half. Conversely, if you set the power as low as you can to play seriously undemanding games the Ally seems to get about 4 hours where the Deck can get 7 or 8. Just about everything in between scales the same way. For the most part, other than when the Ally is at a higher TDP and outperforms the Deck then the Deck will either give the same performance at a lower TDP or give better performance at the same TDP.
Keep in mind that when you set the TDP that depending on certain factors the device might be operating at a TDP lower than what you set. When you have the Deck set to a TDP of 15 but the game is usually only getting the Deck to run at about a TDP of 10 then you will get better battery life than if you set the Ally at a TDP of 15 because it's actually having to run at that TDP of 15 to compete. Obviously, I made up those numbers to make the point.
The ally is just a Better device and when they come out with a battery holder for it that can attach to the back like the deck mate. It will solidify my claim.
Steam deck was cool and yea the battery life is better at the cost of worse performance across the board… but hey it has its advantages.. but if you actually played on the ally’s 120hz display then you wouldn’t care that much about battery life and would just wait for a deck mate for the ally because ITS THAT GOOD
@@bandzzman1224 The Ally doesn't have better performance across the board; it has better performance only if you're maxing it out on power draw and therefore get about an hour of battery life. The instant you decide you don't want to hop from one power outlet to the next and therefore lower the graphics you end up with essentially a Steam Deck except no track pads, fewer reprogrmmable buttons, all of that Windows Jank, and a shorter battery life. The Ally is a more-portable laptop with a crappy battery whereas the Deck is a truly portable device.
@@LawlessNate the max tdp on a steam deck is 15w dude. The max on ally is 35w at 10w the ally still performs better then the deck. You obviously never played with the ally before or you wouldn’t had said that. You definitely don’t have to max out the tdp to get better performance.
I also call it Rogue ally but many people dont understand what i am talking about so i need to tell them AARR OWWW GEEE LL III
what about sleep mode? can i just pause the game and continue later? like on the deck?
Sleep mode on the ally is just like any windows pc. Sometimes games will resume without a problem. Sometimes not, and you may get a crash or some glitchy performance that u were not getting before until you restart.. thats windows optimized or not. Most Windows users will know this already. One of the many drawbacks of windows. Everyone has a diff experience, the only way to know is if u get the device and try it out for yourself. If its not for you, return it.
@@djfresh826 thx man. will try it out for sure
Short answer: no.
Long answer: no.
Djfresh got it exactly right
Steam Deck less powerful but more user friendly seems to be the outcome
What gaming laptop can I get for 699$?
It’s pretty tough. Mostly like RTX 3050 or 3060 ones on sale.
Competition is good. But for now, I'm perfectly fine with the steam deck. I don't want to mis the trackpads and the button layout. Also, as a console gamer, I like the accessibility off the deck. But to each their own!
Ps I think both hand-helds serve a different audience, and that's great.
New to pc gaming and windows, I love the rog ally everyone will complain about something yeah battery sucks but I have 65w chargers laying around in house, if we travel like will will in July and August I have an outlet in my mini van and once at the airbnb I have outlets everywhere. I'm not taking my ps5 or series xto play warzone. I don't have to take my ps4 slim now all I need is the charger with hdmi out and I'm good.
Sounds great! It’s a good device for sure
When it comes down to it, the Steam Deck just has really great pricing for the performance that hits a sweet spot of being way more powerful than say, my current retroid or anbernic device, but not the eye-watering pricing of these other competitors. If i had infinite money, yeah. This would interest me. But it still feels like paying an early adoptor tax for tech that isn't quite there yet.
Also i went to High School with this dude and now he's in my youtube reccs wtf.
That's why I didn't buy one yet.... always wait a year when new tech comes out, that way they work out most all the bugs an it's stable with no headaches, that's what I did with my steam deck, and now I have one that's 3tb and have 208 games in my pocket, Def recommend dbrand killswitch case with screen protector
Hopefully you were nice to him so he don't roast you
@@bbnnmm9 Ye i got dat.
Why do people care about the extra fps in between the main used ones like 30, 60, and 120. I want it to be able to get those numbers but I rarely ever play with no fps limiter. I hate how it looks running at 80 or 97 fps. I’d rather knock it down to 60 and save some electricity. I get so annoyed when my friends turn off the limiter on games because it gives them 10 more fps when they are at 120 already.
I think its an amazing machine but good god windows is still horrible and janky. I haven't used windows in a few years but its just as bad as i remember. I really dont get how windows can be so janky after being around for 30 to 40 years. You would think they would have it figured out by now. Once you are in a game this thing runs great though. Besides windows and battery life this thing is a beast.
Since you tried VR, how does Beat Saber perform in this?
Why dont you use the fingerprint on the power button to log into windows ????
Isit worth getting if I already have a steam deck with dual boot to windows?
How can Asus rog ally have dust under screen? I returned it. They need to clean their factory to become dust free.
I am not being a smart a. but if I go and rebuy it will you teach me how to work it and you can’t guarantee that Asus will continue to support it they have a bad track record in that department.They do move on to the next thing quickly.Also,can an update that can fix the sd card problem that is now creeping in they are getting so hot they are being ruined I have never seen you before you are really knowledgeable
battery is no problem, i wish they made it OLED ,
get a 100w power bank problem solved
Doesnt make sense to overlook the lesser 'branded' competition. The 7840u has had better performance with 7500mhz ram in the likes of Aokzoe a1 pro with much better battery life
The ally is significantly more uncomfortable to hold , at least for average to larger sized hands
Akarin!
Impressed you can see her 😮😮
Kids prefer to get a phone or tablet and some Robux or Minecraft gold. Not one of my nephews even want to play on the Switch. their Christmas wishlist was credit load on Google Play or Robux! Those of us who are interested in x86 handhelds are pretty niche.
So can I play my Xbox games on ROG?
U can play game pass for pc, not your console library unless u stream it
@@hannibalthe1st565 cool man! Thanks for actually responding unlike the ROG Ally douche. Talk. Talk. Talk ☹️
Most games you bought on Xbox you can't download on PC. Kinda bullshit I bought cyberpunk,dead space and a few other games on Xbox and I can't play them on the ROG ally. I would have to purchase them on steam now because the games are not available on Microsoft store for PC. A couple of my games did transfer but not many.
Rog > Deck
The Deck chip is a custom chip designed to get the best performance at low TDP while the Ally chip is just a 7840u with some changes which is designed as a general purpose laptop apu run between 15-30 TDP. It's mainly designed for ultra thin and light laptops. Both the Deck and Ally are limited to 16 GB ram total.
My almost 4 year old gaming laptop still get better performance than both the Deck and Ally. Neither of these handhelds are ideal for playing the most demanding PC/console games.
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Ally uses Z1 Extreme.
@@nathanlamaire you don't understand
@@nathanlamaire Z1 Extreme sounds more fancy than 7840u. It's the same with anti-gravity cooling system. Asus has a marketing team which tries to make the hardware sound fancier to the average person than it really is. There is nothing "antigravity" about how the Ally cools the apu.
so itw cheaper steam deck?
Cheaper? Nah. Overall it’s more expensive, but it is more powerful
Alot dont realize with rog aly since its windows youre gonna have ALOT of updates to figure out.... and alot pf space is gonna get wasted due to those updates, honestly of you dont know everything needs to update then maybe you should go back to consoles lol i hear the ps5 is ok
The ally does not have enough ram. It’s ram is being shared by the gpu and cpu. Plus slowed down by multiple downloads, web extensions, tabs, background programs and so on
Not only in other markets are steam decks available in a store, but the Z1 extreme Ally is cheaper than a 64GB steam deck also. I guess it shows how much official distribution makes a difference.
While I understand the out of box windows startup is lame for something a lot of people just want to play games on, people need to understand that this is what pc hardware is. You’re buying a pc.
I do hope microsoft make some changes to windows but I won’t hold my breath for now
You sure about that pricing? Z1 extreme ROG ally is $699 and the 64gb Steamdeck is $399. I even checked other markets like Japan and Taiwan and the prices are pretty similar to USD.
@@JasonWitmerYT I live in south africa. A Z1 extreme Ally is $850 and a 64GB steam deck is $900. A lot of people’s argument of the steam deck being better because of the price is thrown out the window at that point.
If I'm not mistaken, Steam Deck 512gb would cost about the same as ROG Ally Z1 Extreme in Australia but Steam Deck isn't even officially released in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore yet. Crazy. Anyway, I read somewhere that Microsoft is 'developing' Windows for handheld device. Don't know if it's true though.
You got hit by extreme importing charge, my poor dude.
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Nintendo switch crying in the corner…😅
Well... PC gamers do know you should update everything before playing... So, it was your mistake.
Just bought it. Amazing after the initial annoying pain in the ass setup and updates. This beast is not for the newbie that does not know how to install updates or mess with bios. This is not play a play out of the box system. This is get it out of the box and be frustrate by bugs and shit that you need to do updates after updates and mess with settings before you get a good thing. If you succeed you will be rewarded. TH-cam is your friend. Oh and the two hours battery life playing at 15W is bullshit. I play Diablo 4 and it does not last two hours and I play at 15W so the battery is weak.