Gwen Shamblin Lara | Pseudo-Christian Cult Leader or Weight Loss Pioneer?
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- This video answers the questionS: Can I analyze the case of Gwen Shamblin Lara? Was her weight loss system legitimate? Was her church a pseudo-Christian cult?
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Good rule of thumb - If someone tells you they know something that God forgot to tell everyone else, CULT.
I'll tell you...... For money
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On point 👉
That's amazingly said!! 🙌 I never thought of it this way. Thank you so much for sharing. ❤️
Lots of love 🌟
If anyone tells you that "God" told them anything, it's probably kindest to humour them, whether it's your friendly parish priest or a stranger ranting on a street corner.
In defining a cult, you perfectly described Scientology. Chilling.
Totally agree with you! Had that experience when I was 18, got away quickly!!!! Ugh
Exactly Scientology!
She tried to find out how they made money
Yup! My thoughts exactly….
Shamblin got the Scientologists in to help her increase her revenue stream ... true info.
Dr Grande needs an award for saying deadpan “Jim’s not here in Bible study…he has the mark of the beast…who knew”? I had to rewind that 8 times and busted up laughing each time! 🏆 😂
I can tell just by looking at that lady she was certified nuts; her husband latched on because she was hauling in the cash. Another scammer / con lady in the name of setting up as a church.
She was so gaunt and unhealthy looking. Loaded. Much younger former-struggling-actor husband.
spot on
He was 8 years younger I believe- but her 1st husband was “HUSKY” & she had the desire for TARZAN😉.
Hail Bisacodyl.. And eliminate all impurity.. She claimed.. And do not flush..
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Ever notice the religions that ostracize members when they begin to think for themselves? FLDS, Scientology, Amish and now Skinny Lara
Or change their hairstyles!
All of them.
Yes
I believe those are better known as “cults.”
Actually, I personally know people who left the Amish that are welcomed and still associate with their families and treated civilly by the community.
"Faith-based wieght-loss" lol what a bunch of lunatics
It works. Try it.
They're not lunatics. Misguided maybe. I think some compassion is in order.
Asking God to help you eat right and gain control of areas of your life is a good thing, and that gained (sorry LOL) discipline can help in other areas of your life. Apply true Christine faith and doctrine, not a cult of following personalities who teach pseudo-Christianity!
@@Ellen-hs7zb Christianity, by definition, is a cult of the undead.
@@nonprogrediestregredi1711 Look up the definition.
The way Dr.Todd throws shade so subtly gets me every time
She might have missed the fine print of Matthew 15:11 What goes into a man's mouth does not make him `unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him `unclean.'"
And, there is always atonement, redemption and the state of being born again!
AMEN!
She took that out of context like she took verses out of context about who God is and what it means to be saved.
I was in the Weigh Down Workshop for a long time, but never joined the church. The Workshop started from a very good place and was very effective for me. It was not a cult at that point. But Gwen started to take her own fame much too seriously, founded the church, and it all descended a cult.
All along her beliefs were heretical. I met her back then and told her she was wrong about God. I wrote about it all on my FB wall, which is public under Dwayna Litz. Yes, her program began in all of the churches, but she was a heretic all along before she began the cult.
@@DwaynaLitzMusic I'm sure you're correct, but understand what this poster was saying. I participated in a local weigh down workshop 20 years ago (when Gwen still looked human) and we learned some worthwhile things.
The weight loss program was effective-but then she went off the rails
The Weigh Down philosophy simply was, 'wait till you are genuinely hungry, and when it hits, eat what you want, but eat until you were sufficiently satisfied', I think it was, 'wait for the growl' in your stomach. It works, but one really needs to be sensible, and with any diet, requires discipline, perseverance and commitment. I honestly think Gwen Shamblin lost her way due to greed and ego.
I refuse to laugh at your dry humor doc but the "fit thru the gates of heaven" bit had me cryin' 😭😭😭. Keep up the good work !
Although, this is a real tragedy, with so many loosing their lives; Its a given where I come from, never trust a preacher with big hair.
Where I come from we don't trust preachers, period.
@@marcdraco2189 Being a Texan I grew up around children who were forced by their families to be part of one religious cult or another...I heard a sermon at one of these types of churches at the age of six as a guest of the family of a playmate...screaming angry faced fiery brimstone man yelling and contorting his face and body like a horror movie character that anyone who wasnt saved better come on down and accept him as their savior....or else in the fires of hell they would burn...I sat glued to my seat terrified of the man...These people are a dime a dozen.
Starving for Jesus? ...I thought I had heard everything!
@@latinaalma1947 America really is screwed. The founding fathers escaped a king, but brought his bible with them... so really they are no better off and in some respects, they're rooted in a belief system that most of Europe has abandoned.
No kidding!
I disagree. I think she started out with very good intentions. I took her classes back in the 90s. She was very passionate but not crazy. What I think happened is, all the fame and money changed her and she became obsessed with the power and fame which turned into a crazy lady later in life. But she didn't start out that way.
Simple, power corrupts.
The documentary seems to support this view.
Reading the book now and it’s not even a little bit weird. Very encouraging and solid. Too bad she went crazy.
“Somehow she has special knowledge that has escaped theologians”
Like Regina George, Her hair is big bc it’s full of secrets
I think it's Gretchen right? Regina's hair was really straight, but Gretchen's was curly and fluffy
@@sarabeth641 yeah it is! Whoops, it’s been a while since I’ve seen it 😅 i forgot this was BEFORE the court of popular opinion turned on GW and the santagram snubbing etc
@@KJ-cs4ow haha no problem! I'm not sure I understand the second part of your comment though. Edit: Actually I do! I wasn't reading correctly. Lol we're both a mess today
Oh thats good !! ......
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Thank you Dr. Grande, I like much your assessment of people, cults, sound doctrine, reason, & good Christian faith. What is healthy is more important than mere weight measurement because we look at physical & emotional/mental components. We should all focus on what we as individuals are called to do, not discerning others callings. To be obsessed & fixated on appearance, is unhealthy. To love others unconditionally, & want for their genuine best, is paramount.
Probable cause of crash: The plane was overweight.
Metacause: God went 'old school' and removed them from his earthly realm.
Best Comment Award Winner, folks!!!
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Seriously I snorted OUT LOUD at this! 🐷
A second snort here!!! 😂😂😂😂 hilarious
Tripple SNORT !!
The plane was overweight 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Quadruple snort 😂😄😆😁
I got to hand it to you dr. Grande your sense of humor never gets old! Before I die, I will have to have breast reduction surgery so that I can easily squeeze through the Gates of heaven! Never heard of this woman the Tarzan guy or that diet plan either as I never had any desire to lose any weight or become part of some religion. My life Quest has been to be as strong tone and muscular as possible without going to the gym or working out.
I live in the area. Haven’t watched the video yet, but lemme say that I know a few of her followers and I have a previous client that was spiritually abused after gaining her weight back. She left and is still healing. Many people relocate to Nashville for Gwen. I knew about 6 women that are/were followers. From what they’ve told me,I know that she arranged marriages, dictated wedding attire/decor, and even PROPHESIED where the groom needed to buy the ring in Beverly Hills. They lived in Nashville at the time. He bought the ring as told. I could type for hours as they attempted to recruit me after I had a baby and was losing baby weight. I’ve run into her flock with her at restaurants and I couldn’t stop staring at her eating methods.
Please do tell..what were the eating methods?
@@whiteraven69 one of her favorite things was salt. She would search for the saltiest tortilla chip or French fry and salt it some more after eating. Once she was finished eating, everyone else at the table would stop eating. Her fave TexMex restaurant closed maybe a decade ago but her fave American Bistro is J. Alexander’s in Cool Springs near her Brentwood church and her mansion. Saw her there multiple times in about the same table location so she may have had a seating demand, I dunno...she was seated prominently in the middle each time and the hair made it hard not to stare.
@@87prawblems That is wild that when she stopped eating, everyone else did. Gwen Shamblin was all about control.
The dry humor in this cracks me up ❤️😂
0:35 When you have defeated all the other Karens and have to fight the Karen Manager
underappreciated comment
The end boss 😂
Karen's unite!-and make me your leader!Together we will rant/rave and jump up and down all in the name of royalties for the Karens made a mockery for making sincere points enthusiastically.If your name is Karen(or not)and appear in a Karen smear campaign than go ahead and beyotch slap the producer with a lawsuit have a Judge punish the offenders by making them apologize to children named Karen while simultaneously nick naming there male children Karen.i'm done.:)
Hilarious
I knew these comments would be golden. You all didn't disappoint. Thanks!
"For truly I tell you, if you have faith the size of a mustard seed, you can say to this FAT, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you."
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Thank God. I never need to exercise again.
@@theessentialforager6658 😂🤣😂🤣
If it meant I could eat bacon and onion rings without penalty I could believe a lot of things. 🤣
*thinks about a joke that correlates her hair to some sort of airbag but knows it would be in poor taste so just keeps it to myself*
More like a 'hairbag' ...
Ill be here all week
Robin Williams referred to this as the "jiffy pop hairdo".
Is that even real hair? She's absolutely terrifying. Plus, her weight loss program is very unhealthy, I mean just look at HER!
@@sarahalbers5555 Those are sew in weaves. They come in all colors and textures. Love 💘 from Richmond VA 🤗
Same. Was thinking that’s a small plane. I hope it wasn’t *weighed down*
I always enjoy your videos, great insight and information-never stop. I always enjoy your subtle dry humor too!
Thank you Dr. , great video.
So sad how people get into these cults!!!
Dr. Grande you are so funny I don't know how you say those funny lines without cracking up. Its a miracle! Thank you for being so entertaining and creative.
Wow. This has been a real shock to my system.
...I actually remember that Tarzan series. I might need a moment to process this.
Same! I also remember him as a singer. Never pictured him as a TV evangelist.
A chick that can't find a proper foundation match could never tell me anything about getting into heaven. 💅🏽
I actually told a friend whose daughter was moving to NYC in the late 90s that I would be worried about terrorism
I wasn't a prophet, I had just lived in London during the IRA bombings.
Bravo Dr. Grande. So many struggling and hurting people out there, they don’t need to fall into traps set by these hypocrites.
It’s sad how these people take advantage of others who want a better life. Great analysis Dr Grande.
The picture of Kenneth Copeland made me laugh out loud. 😂
Good Morning doc & everyone else
It's funny how cultural trends get incorporated in to "churches"; prosperity gospel, weight loss gospel. Next I'm expecting The Church of the Holy Facelift.
This Video is Totally Fabulous as Always Dr.!! Thank You Sooo Much!!!
I am a prophet! Tomorrow something is going to happen, mark my words!
wow! attended one and only one meeting of the Weigh Down program at a church in New England. By the time it was over I knew I wouldn't go again. It seemed fake and not to be taken seriously. Couldn't wait to get out of there!
The Oxford dictionary lists several definitions for Cult.
* A misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.
'A cult of personality surrounding the leaders"
It's disheartening to me when Christians are against anti-depressants. I used to be afraid of medicine for mental health, but then I realized that I can't function without it. My depression is very severe. I just recently had a psychotic break and I was taking medication. I also know what it's like to have weight be a focus in the church. The purpose of the church is to help lead people into salvation. It's not a place to focus on our medical issues.
Gluttony was once one of the classic seven deadly sins. Now it's just the accepted life-style of millions.
Many obese people actually suffer from malnutrition. Poor people also eat poor quality food that is high in fat and carbs. Also a lack of activity makes people fat.
I read her book years ago and went to a program...it got a little weird. But the concept of only eating when you are hungry and stopping when full is a healthy way to eat. I liked that idea. She promoted pretty much starving yourself. Through the years it seems like she was anorexic and her appearance and ideas were more radical. I get it, food can be an addiction and I believe that we have to rely on our higher power to help, whatever that may be...but it's not for everyone. Lara went too far, you can see it.
What are the chances!?!?! I was watching the (year old) Fundie Fridays video about this nut bag...I mean lady...at the exact moment you released this video!
Dr. Grande, would you be open to analysing the United Penticostal Church?
And to think I joined a group from my church using her program. I left the church because they have nothing to do to with Jesus Christ. This story just reaffirms that I did the right thing.
Thanks Dr...I just spewed my Diet Coke all over my phone...”fit through the gates of heaven” ...Brawahhhhhaaaaahahahah
Splendid, you're worth your weight in gold on this analysis, Dr.
My late husband was an aircraft mechanic; apparently those Citations were known as "near-jets."
Thank you so much for talking about cults. I escaped from a gun-heavy communist doomsday cult two months ago and I’m terrified that they have my address and live here 😞 The vindictive behavior the leader has for me is a lot to deal with, but videos like this help me at least understand what is happening to me
You should check out a you tube channel called “profiling evil” he has investigated cults and helped people escape them .... maybe he can help you? I think his name is Mike Young if I remember right. Prayers for you!🙏🏼
@@imasheepbahbah3591 Oh thank you! I’ll check it out 💞
Shambin’s twin is Paula White, who is also a divorcee who married a member of the band Journey, she was the selected Spiritual Advisor of Trump. White is a multimillionairre, with huge ranch in Florida , stabled with expensive horses . The self proclaimed Goddess of White ministries , her focus is on evangelical prosperity , which seems to be a main goal of these charismatic leaders .
Definitely a cult!!! Your presentation was spot on, appreciate you bringing this to light for future cult followers like Jimmy Jones
Lara must not have gotten the word that Tarzan couldn’t really fly.
It’s 11:11 AM here in Mendo Ca. Dr. Grande.. I’m digging on that color! Do you have your bear slippers on this morning! LOL… Hope you’re doing well, this is a good one!! I didn’t see it back when you first posted, fascinating… As usual your delivery is perfection.Thinking of the weight issue thing… I was fortunate I had a pretty smart nurse mother, she showed me my little fist when I was a little girl and said this is a portion, it’s good to not overindulge.. I was a smart little girl I got it then! I was brought up if you see somebody heavy, possibly they are padding up for protection… Never judge… Thank you again..
“She bought 40 acres of land and donated it to the church.”
You mean she found a loophole to get out of paying taxes? Got it.
Oh wait you are fighting for the government to collect more taxes right? Let me ask you what exactly do you need the gov to give you that those taxes will help you with??
Oh nothing!!??
Listen whenever the government has the people getting upset that the gov is not collecting enough taxes they have to you bamboozled! Taxes started at a 1% and 5% level when it started! Today wages are taxed multiple times at earning at spending dollars earned are taxed multiple times currently!
Here’s you clue dimwit start fighting for the government to stop the spending like a drunk sailor before you mention a word about collecting more taxes idiot!
Wise up!!!
@@terryfonz4603 I’m not sure how illiterate you are but nothing I said stated that I believe the government should be collecting more taxes. I’m a libertarian. I am simply pointing out exactly what this woman did in order to keep more money. Go take a Xanax.
Nothing wrong with getting out of paying taxes.
@@haleytruslow7200 he replied like that because your being sarcastic and it seems like you had a problem with someone finding a way to pay less taxes
@@haleytruslow7200 🤣🤣🤣
Her appearance later in life seemed to indicate a lack of self awareness, she looked crazy.
Yes. She looked malnourished, clearly affecting her brain.
Yes....that hair. Plus she was skin and bones and looked older.
Their 11th commandment: Thou shalt not have mirrors before thee.
12th commandment thou shalt not covet a size 0@@johnbauman4005
Just when you think you've heard it all, someone starts the First Church of Caloric Deficit
Hahahaha I actually lol’d
Better than the Anglican branch chain amino acids
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Haaaaaaah! And I’m convinced we live in the movie “Idiocracy!”
You win best comment award. 👍👍👍 First Church of Caloric Deficit.
Interesting that you didn’t mention the “divorce and remarriage” being adultery preached by Mrs Lara’s church, until she divorced and remarried. I guess she found new, updated, get with the times, teachings of god (with a little g.)
Hahahaha…. False teachers have a funny way of stepping in hypocrisy
This sounds like someone who was able to practice and monetize her eating disorder publicly.
Yes. In one picture she appeared to be anorexic.
Kind of reminds of that cult what is it “love has won” or whatever it was where she basically found a way to get her cult members to financially support her drug/alcohol addiction!
Another would be 'All In' by Teddy Mellencamp.
I went to her main church years ago purely out of curiosity because I had heard so much about it and lived nearby. At the time I was anorexic, I was so underweight that I would get dizzy just from standing up and it was very obvious. They fawned over me, kept telling me how "cute" and "beautiful" I was. I'm lucky that I went into it knowing what they had going on. It definitely didn't discourage my behaviors or lead me towards recovery but I knew what they were about. If I had actually gone there because I wanted to join, I probably would've gotten worse. What they're doing is dangerous.
@@unicorn-glasses my sister belongs to that church...and my sister is a kook! She sent me a video of the Weigh Down Workshop for my kids! My kids were all thin. I never even watched it...I and the rest of my siblings all knew it was a cult.
My mother used to say "Don't worry. We're all a size 1 in our graves."
Boney Maronie 🦴
Funny Mom! 🤣
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And then a size zero
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🎵🎤All we are is dust in the wind 🎶⁉️
Actually, we are spirit!!!! 🌅✝️⚛☮☯️
That's absolutely BRUTAL.
I'm writing that one down.
The higher the hair, the closer to god. She’s obviously very close to god.
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Now, more than ever.
the blonder the hair, the more it reflects light
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lol I wrote the same thing 🎯
I was given a copy of her book when I hit puberty. They may have been teaching me that my only value was as a very skinny, obedient woman. I am in remission for bulimia.
So sorry! May you grow in health!
God loves all sizes but does want us healthy. God bless.
She got what she deserved
❤❤😢😢 I'm so sorry that happened to you!!😢😢❤❤
a Christian weightloss program, that's the most American thing ever lol
Americans can use religion especially Christianity to sell anything.
It’s the most SOUTHERN American thing you will ever see! That hair! That judgement! All that goin’ to hell!
There's a diet based on the Bible and what they ate back then, which is somewhat like a Mediterranean Diet.
@@tamib64 Looking at it objectively though, they ate what was available at the time.
I wonder how many eating disorders sprung from this here Religion...
Ugh, I went through this with my mom. Her church suggested the Weigh Down thing to its members and my stepdad is kind of a pig (seriously, this was like the 12th diet he put her on) so of course he wanted her to try it. I took Mom out for her birthday and she flat out told me she couldn't eat until her stomach growled and then she'd cut her meal in half so she wouldn't eat so much. And she was telling me this like it was perfectly normal, like obviously the church was involved in her diet and pretty soon she'd drop the weight and everyone would be able to tell she was saved because she was thin. She quit doing that eventually (her thyroid was crapping out, making it nigh on impossible to lose any weight), but she's been on diet after diet since. I don't expect her to love her fat, but I wish she could accept that she's never going to fit into her wedding dress again, no matter how holy she is.
Don't mind me, just breaking into a psychologist's YT comments to talk about my mother.
I hope your mom is out of the church. Mine... If she eats and when she eats it's all sweets and junk, which Gwen promotes.
That's terrible. Is she still under pressure from your stepdad?
@@thatsalt1560 I don't know, honestly. I think he may have decided to lay off after he had a heart attack a few years ago. He's still kind of an ahole, but he's just the regular kind of ahole.
Thanks for sharing. It sounds like your mom is yo yo dieting. When someone eats too little, it makes their body adjust to less calories, so the weight comes back and more when normal eating is returned to. It is a vicious cycle.
I hope your Mom gets better. My own father died of bulimia. He also controlled my diet. After he passed away, I weighed 98 pounds. I'm a plump 140 now, and ok with it.
"Oh, haven't you heard? Jim isn't coming anymore, seems he had the mark of the beast." You are good for my soul, Dr. Grande! Laughter is the best medicine. ❤️🙏
I marveled that he explained all this deadpan.
Gwen but you can see his eyes twinkle here and there!
Sadly I fell for Weigh Down and eventually joined Remnant. I was rescued by former Remnant/WD members- Thank God. Her story/life is full of caution for us all. Be careful- run at warning signs.
I am glad you got out.
@@lbu9542 Thank You!
I'm glad you made it
@@proanimaluver6487 Thank You!
@@elizabetha2056 🤗
Oh lawd I'd be doomed on all fronts. Dr. Grande, you are the only person I know who can take such a bizarre topic and make it funny (still giggling over "you sit next to a guy for years studying the bible and then BOOM! Spawn of Satan") and compassionate. I have thought for years that the subject of nutrition was equally controversial as the subject of religion. I had no idea somebody had actually combined the two! Terrifying.
Its quite interesting how guilt is used in both and somehow the solution (to both) is YOUR money...
@@jloren4647 and that there is only ONE RIGHT WAY and all other ways are wrong!
@@Jinxiefoo Guess it all comes down to the idiocy of temporal beings telling people how to "live for the future" when they don't know as they haven't even completed living 101 themselves and even if they could, the circumstances were incredibly different.
@Jinxie Foo, I had to rewind that bit to hear it again! Dr G is too funny! 😂😂😂
@@jloren4647 Yes, YOUR💰
Must Become THEIR 💰 !!
can appreciate that "pseudo-Christian" term, even as an atheist. there are good, loving, tolerant, welcoming Christians. And then there is this mess. 😬
On behalf on all Tennesseeans such as myself; we are not this wacko.
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No worries... Nate Bargatze is a great comedian from Tennessee and he's awesome. 👍👍
You don't need to say that. Don't apologize for things you're not guilty of. If someone thinks this woman represents you, they're bigoted against you, and you should never beg for their approval.
Only the current governor.
Zack Leon...Wacko? Only the current governor.
Another gem from you tubes most consistent creator.
The crazed Kenneth Copeland picture was a nice touch. Had me cracking up.
@@chad3232132 Yes, that was a particularly bad shot of him.
As a 40 year student of theology I didn't expect to find an accurate description of what a pseudo- Christian cult is here, but you did it. The only other marker they have that wasn't mentioned here is that a cult leader will often find a single verse in Scripture and twist the truth, forming an entire cult around it, mostly about automatic health & wealth in the last two decades. Gwen took a bit of truth (that chronic overeating is wrong for many reasons) and ended up making her own law the way people are prone to do, starting with the pharisees. There are people who are 100 lbs heavier than they would be if they didn't have true hormonal abnormalities, brain function issues or taking life saving medications such as Cortisone.
Indeed this is what we call eisegesis, which is the formation of doctrine based on the reading of one or more individual verses out of context, as opposed to exegesis, which is the interpretation of scriptural verses based on the context provided by
scripture as a whole. Most
Psuedo Christian cults including The Weigh Down, Christian Science, Seventh Day Adventists and others base their theology on eisegesis
Right. The Bible was not written in verses. The verse numbers were added for reference. Nearly every time someone pulls out an individual verse it's for the purpose of taking it out of context and lying about what the Bible says.
When God gave His Word to His Prophets, He made sure to spread the truth through out the entire Bible, so that no one could take away any one part of it out of His book. That is why you have to read the entire Bible to get the entire message from God.
According to the correct definition of a cult, Christianity is one as well. It was sort og based on Judaism.
Whenever someone, in this case big hair Lara, tells you that God gave them a message for you...RUN. God knows your address. If He has a message for you, He knows where you are.
Whenever someone, in this case big hair Lara, tells you they are a prophet...RUN...as fast as you can.
EXACTLY!
That's right. Think for yourself. Your ok. Your just fine. God doesn't make mistakes.
Big Hair Lara and Lori Vallow Daybell must have drank water from the same fountain of "I'm a Prophet." 🤯 Lol
@@faithfulgrl God is a psychopath; just look around.
God sure uplifts the hair while speaking to prophets
I just cannot understand how anyone can take advice from a person so deluded she wears her hair and make-up like that. None of us can help how we look as far as facial features, body type, often even our weight if we have eating disorders... but make-up and hair styles are a choice. To look that way she was clearly surrounded by people who just told her what she wanted to hear and she had a very distorted self image.
Me thinks Gwen's ego was too fat to get through the pearly gates.
Tom here in Belfast she's getting in bundy getting in wtf 😳
That hair, though!
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I grew up in a 70's Doomsday Cult. Her message may be different, but trust me, she is/was a Cult leader. I watched this documentary and it was all too familiar.
How I screamed when you said you’d have to lose weight to fit through the gates of heaven, you crack me up!
@L Train45 he’s too much lololol
He actually cracked a smile...
I stay on my toes these days when I watch the Dr. for the Mean Girls-level torching eminating from this logical, serene, stoic presence and I'm here for it.
Narrow is the gate....
Thats was good,,,that was a good one. We know this guys next gig, comedy writer.
Thanks for the back story on the folks involved in this tragic crash.
sorry, hate to say it, but i wouldn’t call this tragic. two pilots who shouldn’t be flying that plane? and i don’t think she’s much of a loss to our society.
just an aside - it would be great if all these not nice narcissists would all be together in the same afterlife.
Dan's video was saying Tarzan was a paid actor playing the part of an out of work pilot and flim flam man
@@feralbluee loss of life is always tragic -these people were still somebody’s parents, siblings, and children.
Also as aviators, we don’t scoff at the mistakes of others and talk about how much better we are than them. Dying in a high performance jet airplane is never more than just one or two little mistakes away. It could just as easily have been us or one of our dear friends.
Thanks for your great channel and insight, Juan.
@@feralbluee The death of 7 people regardless of their Christian beliefs is a tragedy. Dr Grande neglected to mention many Christian denominations consider gluttony one of the 7 deadly sins and all of Lara's Churches "cult-like behaviour" is just bog-standard evangelism taught to tens of millions of people around the world.
Love that pic of Kenneth Copeland. It makes him look honest and modest and not even a little bit crazy...
He looked like what I’d think a real demon looks like. 🥺
He is very creepy and I am deeply disturbed that I have a sister who thinks this man is if God following His ways donating her money to his false causes that SHE needs herself!
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I thought the pic was of one of the hyenas from The Lion King. He looks demented.
I find it hilarious that someone who taught against gluttony and greed would die in a private jet crash. Oh the irony.
False teachers have a funny way of stepping into hypocrisy
The cause of the plane crash, weight exceeded capacity. Now that's ironic.
Karma is a bitch....they were flying to a tRump rally in Florida
While on their way to a Trump rally.
Did a spit take when I read that the plane was over weight when it crashed!😳
Gwen gave Matthew 9:13 a whole new meaning. "Enter by the narrow gate..."
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Not being disrespectful but by looking at her she not only had an eating disorder but promoted it as well...
I bought into her diet plan... it worked but when I learned all the leaders for the diet club had to move to Tennessee and live near Shamblin-Lara then I knew it was a cult.
Also, the diet was fine but then I was being flooded with messages about their church. I told the group leader I already belonged to a church. I got out.
This was ALL about $$$ Fat was sinful apparently GREED was ok. Just look at her clothes, lifestyle and make up...Tammy Faye all over again. I am sorry she died but glad the deception has ended. Their church had no crosses... Another sign of a cult. And her books were all about God and Jesus was just a really neat guy. Not the Savior of the World. That's the true definition of a cult. No Cross, No Jesus, No Trinity. Just Gwen!
“If god doesn’t want me to be a false idol and cult leader, may he strike me down!”
there you go
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False prophets clearly have a purpose also.All in good time Glurt!
DOH !!!
🌩⚡🌩⚡🌩⚡🌩⚡🌩⚡🌩get at it I have a list for striking I'm kidding no I'm not!
Who else laughed out loud at the Kenneth Copeland picture?
I mistakenly thought I clicked on a horror film review !
Absolutely terrifying picture 😂
Nervous laugh....that is the creepiest picture ever!
@@imasheepbahbah3591 He looks like on of the hyenas from The Lion King.
Many have suggested its not The Lord behind those eyes but another force
I am a Tennessean and came across her book in the 90's when she was just promoting weight loss. I never could latch onto her reasoning. I saw her one day at an upscale restaurant in Brentwood with her groupies who all seemed enamored by her. Fast forward 10 or 15 years later. A new coworker disclosed that she was a member of this church. She was overweight again after having lost alot of weight through Weigh Down. She indicated that she was getting alot of pressure from Gwen to lose the weight or else. I started doing research to see the way this program evolved into a cult. Gwen's ideas were ludicrous and dangerous. I am not surprised by her death. Sad situation for all involved.
Why were you not surprised by her death?
Let me guess, another tax-exempt business because of religious reasons
Exactly. That’s why she “donated” it to her church
All jokes aside this lady was dangerous
She absolutely Ruined families & lives
Very.
@Tiffanye Young Where can we see the movie, what is it titled? 😊
@Seven Inches of Throbbing Pink Jesus The nature of man. You are right.
A child died because of her teaching that you must show your children who's boss by abusing them into submission
Tarzan series actor Joe Lara- In other words- not well known. Gotta love it because it’s true. Never heard of this woman either.🤠
I knew who he was, but seeing past interviews, with him, I would never taken him to become evangelical. Plus it looks like he messed up his looks. He was gorgeous back in the day!
@@msrain1235 If he was malnourished.I effects one’s thinking logically. People who work-out a lot and then start seeing body fat, when it is exaggerated, counting calories,etc, I can see how he would make it a religious routine.
@@judytullos9889 , you think that he saw body fat? From what I remember, he was always thin. Unless after he stopped acting he got fat.
Lara's acting resume was pretty pathetic. I'm a big film buff, but looking at his acting roles, I've heard of almost none of his films. Nearly all are direct to video. His one Tarzan movie was titles "Tarzan in Manhattan," with was a low quality made for TV movie.
@@chad3232132 , Tony Curtis is the one that sells the Manhattan movie. He was hilarious in it. Joe Lara was more of eye candy in it. His Tarzan show is where he shined. IMO, he was good in it
Jan Crouch's hair had an illicit relationship with a can of aquanet and look what was wrought
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Oh Yeah!! I used to smoke and dry my hair at the same time, while teasing my hair with Aqua-net Super Hold. I'm lucky I survived the 80's!! Yes, I quit my addictions a Long Time ago...both the smoking, and (more importantly)...the Dreaded Aqua Net!! But Damn, I Rocked that Big Hair....
Ren17X BRILLIANT! lol
At Least Jan was a really good person, helped slot of people.
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YES! I’m so glad you’re going over this, Dr. Grande. About 5 or 6 years ago I met a girl in Nashville who was extremely involved with the Remnant Church in Brentwood, TN. She took me there for what she said would be a regular service... the ENTIRE thing was about this Weigh down program and how much it was per month (every person in there paid a certain amount a month for this women’s stupid app!! Like an iPhone app!). Anyway, since my new friend was so involved in the church, I was introduced to a LOT of people. They all seemed very nice, but almost too nice... it was weird!!! It was soooo cultish (this was before I knew ANYTHING about this place’s history...). After the “service” about 10 or 12 of us went out to dinner afterwards. All in all, I never went back and when I told this new friend of mine that I was not interested in joining that church which I now know to be a cult, she unfriended, unfollowed, and completely just deleted me out of her life. I soon figured out that place and Gwen’s teachings have lead to multiple children dying!!! From what I know it was from punishment’s such as locking a kid in the closet, but these were things the church goers learned from this crazy Gwen cult woman. A nightmare and I’m soooo glad I never went back!!!! I had such an icky feeling there.
Thank you 🙏🏼
Explain the KIDS DYING
@@marciasloan534 The murder trial of a Georgia couple accused of whipping, confining and then beating their son to death shines a spotlight on the child discipline practices of a controversial Brentwood church.
Josef Smith, 8, died in 2003 on the day he was whipped with foot-long glue sticks, locked in a closet and told to pray to a picture of Jesus. Ex-members of the church say the punishments were in line with the discipline advice they heard while attending Remnant Fellowship Church.
@@marciasloan534 A judge said he wanted to set an example Tuesday when he sentenced a suburban Atlanta couple to life plus 30 years in prison in the beating death of their 8-year-old son.
Superior Court Judge James Bodiford handed down the sentence against Joseph and Sonya Smith in the death of their son Josef, a case that prompted authorities to raid the parents' church because it supports corporal punishment.
"I think it's serious enough where you should receive the maximum punishment and it should be on top of life," Bodiford told the couple.
The Smiths, both wearing orange clothes marked "Cobb County Jail," looked at each other but said nothing as Bodiford imposed the sentences.
About two dozen supporters, some of whom are members of the Remnant Fellowship Church, were in the courtroom but displayed no emotion when the sentence was announced.
@@ladybuggs11 That poor little boy!
Shamblin? More like Shambles...
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Not bad, dad...not bad.
@@MelissaGal1 Thanks for that, lad... thanks for that.
That was a goid one!!!!
".. everybody has to lose weight in order to, I guess, fit through the Gates of Heaven". Too hilarious.
Ironic how she would tout weight loss when her hair had 40lbs of product in it.
Her face had double.
I did that weigh down program years ago. I basically ate less and lost about 10 pounds over about 3 months I guess. It was nice to do the Bible study with a small group but I didn’t get into the extreme. Later on I heard that she had some strange and off beliefs. She lost a lot of support from mainstream. Lost track of her and wow she went the way of Tammy Fay. And she looked anorexic.
It really wasn't just "eating less." Her ideas were around seeing how little you could eat. If you look at photos of her through the twenty-five years, you'll see how she herself got thinner and thinner and weirder and weirder as her hair got crazier and crazier as did her personal life and her position of ultimate authority within her self-created church. If anyone reading this wants to get a very good look at just how weird she had become, watch her engagement and/or wedding videos here on TH-cam. It's undeniable that she and her faithful followers believed she deserved some sort of Disney Princess world in which to live. Fascinating.
Eat when hungry. Enjoy your food. Stop when full. Take your emotional problems to God rather than stuffing your feelings by eating. She made lots of sense to me. She did go nuts.
Great definition of cults. Sounds like alot of religions I know. When you explain things it makes them SO clear & absurdities very obvious! Thanks for all you do Dr G🤗💕💟
sounds a lot like politics right now
@@jellyfishi_ - it's great, especially if you need to justify killing someone or bedding someone younger than 10
Agreed! I love how concise Dr. Grande is. Oh! And I recommend “Cultish” here on TH-cam. They explore all the different cults out there and it’s quite fascinating.
@@jessitabonita Sounds neat...Will check it out. Thanks!!😊👍
12+ hrs of theology and best mainstream I've found as far as logic and actually addressing human suffering constructively is Buddhism. But again, that's part of why some practitioners refuse to call it a religion, it can be practiced fully secularly . In its purist form, original canon and other records believed to be teachings of Siddartha Gautama, it's just a simple life philosophy.
They seem like a bunch of spiritual lightweights.
I see what you did there 😂
Every bit of this is exactly like all other cults. Control. And every one of them lets their flock know, with a wink, that they will NEVER be able to obtain the ultimate secret knowledge, because it was written that only THEY THEMSELVES have been trusted with that special privilege This is alpha world.
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That's... heavy
She developed a cult that was part Mormon part Scientology and part Jehovah Witness, and a whole lot of her own brand of crazy, but not one once of Christian.
I mean we already tend to see fatter people are morally bad so she really just played into a strongly held belief and took it to the extreme
Yes. People on Wall Street who are gluttonous when it comes to money (but look fit) are admired, while people who are kind but fat are scorned as sinfully self-indulgent.
@@kesmarn good point
Eating less is definitely not "common sense" in the USA.
Funny how ones anointed status in a so called church couldn’t save them from a terrifying death falling from the sky.
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Or god sent a message. Either way doesn’t prove her point.
God loved them so much that he called them home early.
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Um, Jesus died on a cross
Cult= blind worship of grandios narcissism on a mass scale. Most of the victims have deeproted trauma and are co-dependents.
Damn. That's got to be the best description I've seen.
Trauma but shouldn't people show them more compassion then I'f they went thru trauma
@@reg8297 Cult leaders are grandiose narcissists. Amain trait is the lack of empathy and compassion. And co-dependents lack the abillity to see the narcissist " as they are", that is they are addicted to their personality/carisma= Brainwashed. Others in the group around the leader ( psycofants) are maby machiavellian and simply dont care. Or psycopatic who are sadistic and cruel. The victims who are traumatised from before have personality traits who make them suceptible for for abuse ( the lack firm boundarys, and a clear understanding of redflags). I read on another post that having trauma or beeing co-dependent is like having red glasses on. When healthy and " functional" people see the clear or many redflags, all the traumatised/co-dependent see are " flags".
Most of those people grew up on hardcore religious fanaticism in the first place. That's traumatic enough and the main reason they were susceptible to Gwen's BS. She didn't recruit them from Episcopalianism or Lutheranism or some moderate Christian sect. Can anyone imagine a Unitarian falling for that crap? Watch the HBO documentary "The Way Down". She was trying to create a mix of Gilead, Stepford and Jonestown.
Nonsense. Those people weren't traumatized, except by their previous wackadoodle religions, until after they got involved with that cult. It's the kids who took the brunt of the abuse and trauma. Watch the HBO documentary.
I was a weigh down student. Yes you are correct. A cult leader describes her perfectly. I attended in the late 1990s before she started her church. She had not married Lara yet. We got a box of videos and watched them. She did guilt the students into not eating. I was losing 5 pounds a week! Hallelujah! It was mind control. I survived. I felt brainwashed. It was an effort. I had to break away. Anyhow., I didn’t morn her loss. Many others weren’t as lucky as I was in trying to break away. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏