I bought 4 feet of 3/16 cable, put loops in both ends using the metal cable crimps from the ACE Hardware. One loop i permanently attached to the Honda helmet holder and the other end passes through 2 helmets and even 2 jackets, then into the bottom of the helmet holder before i plug it into the grab handle. Works great. Yes sure someone could take wire cutters or bolt cutters to the cable in 15 seconds, but who does that? This is just a deterrent if you run into a store or restaurant. I wouldn't leave my Shoei helmet attached overnight in a hotel parking lot - for those cases i bring the helmet inside. Total cost was $5 at ACE for the cable and crimps, and I didn't need to grind the chrome off my helmet holder which will eventually cause it to rust.
Good ideas but not our job as customers- We are payimng an ton of money for this bike and theses are things that one could expect should be done right. Any answer from Honda whay they failed
In Europe most helmets don't even have D-rings and have moved to the more modern micrometric systeem (also called quick release). Totally incompatible with this Honda thingy.
HI MAX, EXCELLENT VIDEOS, THANK YOU SIR. MY NEW 2019 GOLD WING TOUR DCT, CAME WITH A RUBBER STRAP IN THE LEFT SADDLE BAG, FOR USE WITH THE HELMET LOCK, BUT ITS STILL A PAIN TO USE, VERY TIME CONSUMING.
With wire cutting pliers seems to me those cables are not much of a deterrent...would be nice if you do a video showing just how resistant those cables are. Good videos, but no need to show 3 minutes of grinding a piece of metal ;-)
I agree the helmet lock is a fail. But, you can fit two helmets with coms in the trunk. I do it all the time with 2 full face Bell qualifiers and sena smh10's. The helmets need to face backwards with the chinbars pointed towards the trunk latch.
A pair of side cutters and that small diameter coiled cable is toast. Like DubuqueDude said, 2 full face helmets will fit in the trunk, so there's really not need for this helmet holder. This video is nice though because the instructions in the manual aren't much help for installing it...
If you got 2 full face helmets into the trunk you would be the only person to accomplish that! The 2021 does have room to accomodate 2 helmets, after enough complaints from owners. However, that doens't help people with a loaded trunk who are actually travelling with the bike and don't want to carry their helmets.
Had to chuckle at your video. Before I bought my new Goldwing, the sales rep was showing me around the bike. When he got to the helmet lock, my immediate reaction was, that is dumb. I knew I would have to find a work around so appreciate you showing us at least one option. I also watched your other video on an idea for aftermarket grab rails you are considering. Any thought to utilizing the current release mechanism, in a smarter fashion, or will you just bypass it?
Leave my helmet locked to the bike in pouring rain? Never have, never will, there's plenty of room in the trunk of my 2005 GL1800, if I'm traveling and its full or if I had a new bike, I'd take it with me. But I have no doubt that the aftermarket will figure this out, just like your business fixes Honda's shortcomings suspension wise. There are lots of entrepreneurs out there working on improvements to the new bike right now.
@@Traxxion haha! Yes I can. And for the record, I can get my helmet to sit on the seat even with their solution. Maybe they did grind it down but it went through both rings for my shark helmet. And thanks for this video. I honestly couldn’t figure out how it worked and you are the only one who showed how.
Not defending the design or execution of this "feature" but I think how well it works depends a lot on the helmet. Helmets with short tie straps may be more difficult. My Arai CT-Z works beautifully with the Honda Goldwing OEM helmet lock......sits right on the passenger seat with the strap connected to the locking mechanism.
Just purchased 2019 Gold wing, good video on the helmet lock with existing hardware, thanks keep making educational videos, and don’t listen to the negativity!
While I find your videos informative, they make me question my decision to purchase a 2019 Goldwing. I always thought Honda knew what they were doing. If I were Honda, I would hire you to show them how to design and build a proper motorcycle.
You didn't make a bad choice... Honda did 90% of a great job. Virtually all of the flaws that people complain about can be fixed via the aftermarket... except for the GPS, but then again, you can use Carplay or a 2nd GPS.
Why would you not put the cables through the helmets and use a small lock to go through the small hole on the honda holder? The cable looks like the only solution. I agree. A bad deal Honda on the helmet holder.
Different topic.....If your opinion matters any to Honda. lets see if you /We can get Roadlok or Honda to manufacture an exterior Locking system for the new goldwing
If you are in an area where people carry around bolt cutters to steal motorcycle helmets, you are probably already aware of that possibility and wouldn't leave your helmet on the bike in the first place.
Max - there' a market here for some Traxxion Dynamics product that replaces the stock Honda method... I'm in. My Shoei Neotec won't fit in the trunk, the only option I have is to dangle it from that stupid bracket.
Most people use a cable of some sort like I show in this video. It was only $7 or so. I haven't had any demand past that, so I gave up on any product for that. Sorry!
Your right, helmet lock system worst I've ever seen! The rear seat position gives helmet some protection, but your front helmet on rider seat is unsecured! What happens if front helmet get knocked off seat, the coiled cable will uncoil an won't stop helmet from hitting ground? Your system seems best for bike, but again, worst design I've ever seen, an I'm not really happy with coiled cables either! Does Honda advise something we're not seeing here?
thanks for the video. Honda dropped the ball with this. I hope they come up with a fix. anyway your fix did it for now. most time it is only me and so mine will fit in the trunk if I don't a tissue in there already :)
Two phoenix officers took a long ride for some training and when they came out of the restaurant both helmets were gone. There is another video on youtube of two police bikes next to each other in a parking lot and a guy drives up and without even getting out of his car reach's over and steals one of the helmets.
Max, I am going to disagree with your comment about how there is not enough room in the trunk of the 2018 Goldwing. Apparently you didn't watch my video on TH-cam about me doing a demo of the 2018 Goldwing, and how I put my helmet inside the top case of the 2018 Goldwing with a Sena 10c. I doubt that you watched that video about it.
I have a Full Face Arai helmet and it fits exactly like it says in the manual. These guys can't figure a simple helmet lock or did they go out of their way to find a helmet that wouldn't work
I have a real simple solution for you. Buy a pair of handcuffs from Amazon for about $15-$20 The handcuff that would go around your wrist (you know, when you get arrested) will fit through the hole in the black part of the helmet holder. Put the other handcuff through the D-Ring in the helmet. Done. If you don't want that chain, remove the chain that connects the two handcuffs and just use one handcuff to go through the hole in the black part of the helmet holder and the D-ring. Remove the chain so it doesn't scratch the bodywork of let your helmet flop around too much when attached. Handcuffs work great as helmet holders on any bike.
Here is the cable I used: amzn.to/3nQSp9p
The Gold Wing is a fine machine. Anything can be improved upon but anyone thinking about buying one should not be deterred by your videos.
I bought 4 feet of 3/16 cable, put loops in both ends using the metal cable crimps from the ACE Hardware. One loop i permanently attached to the Honda helmet holder and the other end passes through 2 helmets and even 2 jackets, then into the bottom of the helmet holder before i plug it into the grab handle. Works great. Yes sure someone could take wire cutters or bolt cutters to the cable in 15 seconds, but who does that? This is just a deterrent if you run into a store or restaurant. I wouldn't leave my Shoei helmet attached overnight in a hotel parking lot - for those cases i bring the helmet inside. Total cost was $5 at ACE for the cable and crimps, and I didn't need to grind the chrome off my helmet holder which will eventually cause it to rust.
Good ideas but not our job as customers- We are payimng an ton of money for this bike and theses are things that one could expect should be done right. Any answer from Honda whay they failed
In Europe most helmets don't even have D-rings and have moved to the more modern micrometric systeem (also called quick release). Totally incompatible with this Honda thingy.
Yeah I'm sitting here playing with it myself and my neo-tech too doesn't have d-rings
HI MAX, EXCELLENT VIDEOS, THANK YOU SIR. MY NEW 2019 GOLD WING TOUR DCT, CAME WITH A RUBBER STRAP IN THE LEFT SADDLE BAG, FOR USE WITH THE HELMET LOCK, BUT ITS STILL A PAIN TO USE, VERY TIME CONSUMING.
Hi T G, that rubber strap goes in the left saddlebag and is used to strap down a kit.
The rubber strap is to hold the toolkit that only comes w/ Canadian bikes.
With wire cutting pliers seems to me those cables are not much of a deterrent...would be nice if you do a video showing just how resistant those cables are. Good videos, but no need to show 3 minutes of grinding a piece of metal ;-)
Is there anyway to mount the original helmet hanger from pre 2018 into the 2018+ trunk?
Some people have home-brewed this setup. It's not easy, and requires a high level of fabrication skill.
I agree the helmet lock is a fail. But, you can fit two helmets with coms in the trunk. I do it all the time with 2 full face Bell qualifiers and sena smh10's. The helmets need to face backwards with the chinbars pointed towards the trunk latch.
The trunk is for clothing and other items .
Use a padlock with cable and loop it through helmet and the passenger handle bar.
A pair of side cutters and that small diameter coiled cable is toast. Like DubuqueDude said, 2 full face helmets will fit in the trunk, so there's really not need for this helmet holder. This video is nice though because the instructions in the manual aren't much help for installing it...
If you got 2 full face helmets into the trunk you would be the only person to accomplish that! The 2021 does have room to accomodate 2 helmets, after enough complaints from owners. However, that doens't help people with a loaded trunk who are actually travelling with the bike and don't want to carry their helmets.
@@Traxxion Sorry, I was talking about the '21 model. You are correct, 2 full face helmets will not fit in the '18-'20 trunk...
I can't even get ONE helmet to fit in the trunk with the Sena removed. I've sure scratched up my helmet trying though. Frustrating.
Had to chuckle at your video. Before I bought my new Goldwing, the sales rep was showing me around the bike. When he got to the helmet lock, my immediate reaction was, that is dumb. I knew I would have to find a work around so appreciate you showing us at least one option. I also watched your other video on an idea for aftermarket grab rails you are considering. Any thought to utilizing the current release mechanism, in a smarter fashion, or will you just bypass it?
I made a cable that lets me lock two helmets and coats if I desire.
I have a cool product in stock now called the Helmet Guardian... nice piece, bolts on behind license plate and lets you hang two helmets quickly.
The aftermarket will have to solve this. I wouldn't want to grind on the locking tab, grind the chrome off and its going to rust when it rains.
Leave my helmet locked to the bike in pouring rain? Never have, never will, there's plenty of room in the trunk of my 2005 GL1800, if I'm traveling and its full or if I had a new bike, I'd take it with me. But I have no doubt that the aftermarket will figure this out, just like your business fixes Honda's shortcomings suspension wise. There are lots of entrepreneurs out there working on improvements to the new bike right now.
2021 bike owner here. Still not fixed
At least you can get 2 helmets in your trunk...
@@Traxxion haha! Yes I can. And for the record, I can get my helmet to sit on the seat even with their solution. Maybe they did grind it down but it went through both rings for my shark helmet. And thanks for this video. I honestly couldn’t figure out how it worked and you are the only one who showed how.
@@jtfike Maybe a "small change"??? Honda never admits anything is less than perfect.
What’s up w/ these Honda Engineers ? Drinking to much Saki ? Or just hanging out too much w/ Harley engineers ? Too many bugs 🐛 🕷 w/ the new wing ☝️
I think you already posted this before.
It says in the description: "Reloading this, it was accidentally deleted"
Not defending the design or execution of this "feature" but I think how well it works depends a lot on the helmet.
Helmets with short tie straps may be more difficult.
My Arai CT-Z works beautifully with the Honda Goldwing OEM helmet lock......sits right on the passenger seat with the strap connected to the locking mechanism.
Honda's helmet lock sucks. Poor design.
most useless helmet lock I have ever seen stock. I got the lidlox, never had an issue
I agree, Honda let us down on this part of the bike.
Oh and my shoei neo Tek II has no d-rings.
Just purchased 2019 Gold wing, good video on the helmet lock with existing hardware, thanks keep making educational videos, and don’t listen to the negativity!
I found a new gizmo, watch for video this week.
I us a gun lock / keyed cable lock that works well for me and cheap regal model R15XXX
I’m extremely disappointed in Honda’s engineering on the helmet holder. I like your solution and will be using your method. Thank you!! 👏👏
Where can I find that spiral cord. I looked thru google and couldn't find one. Thanks!
amzn.to/3nQSp9p
If they had only put in on the other side of the bike the helmet could have rested on the rear seat.
One per side would have been better too.
While I find your videos informative, they make me question my decision to purchase a 2019 Goldwing. I always thought Honda knew what they were doing. If I were Honda, I would hire you to show them how to design and build a proper motorcycle.
You didn't make a bad choice... Honda did 90% of a great job. Virtually all of the flaws that people complain about can be fixed via the aftermarket... except for the GPS, but then again, you can use Carplay or a 2nd GPS.
Why would you not put the cables through the helmets and use a small lock to go through the small hole on the honda holder? The cable looks like the only solution. I agree. A bad deal Honda on the helmet holder.
Can’t agree more; this is so stupid. Tried the lock today and almost threw it across the parking lot in frustration..
Different topic.....If your opinion matters any to Honda. lets see if you /We can get Roadlok or Honda to manufacture an exterior Locking system for the new goldwing
Lid Lox makes great products for the Wing. Handlebar tip locks and other universal mount locks.
GLAD I HAVE 2013 WING WITH YOUR SUSPENSION, THERE ARE NO PROBLEMS, THANKS MAX !
"Snip" with the mini bolt cutters and off you go....
If you are in an area where people carry around bolt cutters to steal motorcycle helmets, you are probably already aware of that possibility and wouldn't leave your helmet on the bike in the first place.
Max - there' a market here for some Traxxion Dynamics product that replaces the stock Honda method... I'm in. My Shoei Neotec won't fit in the trunk, the only option I have is to dangle it from that stupid bracket.
Most people use a cable of some sort like I show in this video. It was only $7 or so. I haven't had any demand past that, so I gave up on any product for that. Sorry!
Works for me with no issues
Your right, helmet lock system worst I've ever seen! The rear seat position gives helmet some protection, but your front helmet on rider seat is unsecured! What happens if front helmet get knocked off seat, the coiled cable will uncoil an won't stop helmet from hitting ground? Your system seems best for bike, but again, worst design I've ever seen, an I'm not really happy with coiled cables either! Does Honda advise something we're not seeing here?
The cable I recommend is not that long. Honda has not changed this design through 2021, and I don't expect they ever will.
@@Traxxion amazing, Honda has act together in so many ways an bikes, then they completely drop the ball with stuff like this? amazing!
thanks for the video. Honda dropped the ball with this. I hope they come up with a fix. anyway your fix did it for now. most time it is only me and so mine will fit in the trunk if I don't a tissue in there already :)
Wish I had extra cash and would have bought a couple of 2017's, so I wouldn't have to deal with the new and not improved.
Two phoenix officers took a long ride for some training and when they came out of the restaurant both helmets were gone. There is another video on youtube of two police bikes next to each other in a parking lot and a guy drives up and without even getting out of his car reach's over and steals one of the helmets.
Were they locked?
@@BrokenToeKnee I suspect they were not locked but you'd think at least an officers helmet might be safe unlocked.....
Agreed.
Uh oh. I never lock my helmet.
I used to put my helmets in the trunk... mwah mwah mwaaaaaaahhhhh.....
@@Traxxion Maybe it'll take for me to get it stolen before I start locking it up. Sometimes I forget there are bad people out there.
@@stephensmith1034 HAHA!!!! NOT FUNNY....
Max, I am going to disagree with your comment about how there is not enough room in the trunk of the 2018 Goldwing. Apparently you didn't watch my video on TH-cam about me doing a demo of the 2018 Goldwing, and how I put my helmet inside the top case of the 2018 Goldwing with a Sena 10c. I doubt that you watched that video about it.
One of the determining factors of a helmet fitting inside the trunk is the size of the helmet.
Did they correct this for the 2019....anyone know?
monizk nope!
I have a Full Face Arai helmet and it fits exactly like it says in the manual. These guys can't figure a simple helmet lock or did they go out of their way to find a helmet that wouldn't work
I have a real simple solution for you.
Buy a pair of handcuffs from Amazon for about $15-$20
The handcuff that would go around your wrist (you know, when you get arrested) will fit through the hole in the black part of the helmet holder.
Put the other handcuff through the D-Ring in the helmet.
Done.
If you don't want that chain, remove the chain that connects the two handcuffs and just use one handcuff to go through the hole in the black part of the helmet holder and the D-ring. Remove the chain so it doesn't scratch the bodywork of let your helmet flop around too much when attached.
Handcuffs work great as helmet holders on any bike.
So would you put your helmets with the intercom’s on the seat like this?