Talking Points Memo feat. Jael Holzman | Chapo Trap House

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  • @herpderp728
    @herpderp728 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +39

    Free my man Luigi!
    Edit: I just put "Free Luigi" flyers up at my local UHC office. If our man can catch a case for us then we can step up and spread the word for him. Free Luigi!

    • @metrodonkey8093
      @metrodonkey8093 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

      obviously self defense

    • @janerozental
      @janerozental 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

  • @Leafeon56
    @Leafeon56 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +58

    I dont have anything salient to say, jst that Im trans, most of my friends are trans, and we've all been in the street protesting for black lives and palestine for 4 straight years now and we all feel like the energy has been sucked from the room. we all feel like the world is ending and theres nothing we can do. sorry i dont have much else to say about it. its horrible.

    • @W4jayk854
      @W4jayk854 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      I work with the Green party legislation committee and I can tell you one good thing, they will never hear me shut up on trans rights. Butch Ware, Brianna Joy Grey and the Answer coalition are history as far as this party is concerned.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      What do you mean by all the energy being sucked out of the room?

    • @KissMyConverseFool
      @KissMyConverseFool 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ultravioletiris6241 the perception that there's very little legal left to do to stop maga from acting out a perceived mandate. it's crushing IRL organizing right now. there's a huge feeling that protest right now will do nothing but get your name on a list, and deep uncertainty about how to proceed.

  • @augustgurtisen
    @augustgurtisen 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    I reckon Mr. Gorka's lawyers are going to want to talk to Mr. Chappo on account of this episode being less than 1 whole hour long

  • @ChesaFreakBoyzFishingVideos
    @ChesaFreakBoyzFishingVideos 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    Pardon Luigi Joe!

  • @jingbot1071
    @jingbot1071 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +48

    I'm El Chapo now, all thanks to the power of daily affirmations.

    • @Erasmustherobot
      @Erasmustherobot 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You can be El Chapo everyday doggone it! You just gotta get up and _Be_ El Chapo...
      Also, stay out of my meth territory.

    • @jingbot1071
      @jingbot1071 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Erasmustherobot I don't even know where your meth territory is

    • @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526
      @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@jingbot1071 this dude has no meth territory, i know him he's a nobody in our town, aleays wearing fake jewelry and tank tops talking about all the drugs he "sells"

    • @SUPERBURLBOYROY
      @SUPERBURLBOYROY 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Hi 👋

    • @TurtleChad1
      @TurtleChad1 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Cringe

  • @RileyRobertson-oi4fo
    @RileyRobertson-oi4fo ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Damn. Matt would have an absolute *FEAST* on the whole Healthcare Shooter situation, the show is really starting to lose any kind of discernable edge without him.
    As for the main body of the ep I thought it was fine. Trans rights are certainly important and something to fight for, but there has to be a way to align it with broader class politics & healthcare as a whole. I do think that using "Identity Politics" as your *primary* cause is a political quagmire/mistep, I also dont think you can genuinely think of yourself as progressive if you dismiss it.
    Even the bill their talking about is indictive of a bigger problem. Hospitals should not be forced to chase subsidies and bend to the whim of political causes. Its easy to say "Well their only 1% of the population who cares" but it sets a dangerous precedent in an already fucked situation

  • @ellagage1256
    @ellagage1256 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +37

    15:49 Just looking at some of the comments found here I don't think most people could describe trans issues in general...

    • @fancykarlmarx
      @fancykarlmarx 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      They’re so fucking edgy. Pretending to be blackpilled is the lowest form of conversation.

    • @daraghokane4236
      @daraghokane4236 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@fancykarlmarxI don't have the luxury of giving into despire..if I do that who will feed my cat. I didn't think people get how weak and easy it is to say I give up nothing I can do. Believe it can get better and trying that is hard that takes strength

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Well yea there are barely any trans people. Could you describe local Puerto Rican issues? Or local Guamanian issues? Is it somehow virtuous to be up to date on those issues?

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@ultravioletiris6241 Dunno, are the GOP running anti-Puerto Rican and anti-Guam propaganda through their media mouthpieces?

    • @hemingshark327
      @hemingshark327 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      hey, it's the chapo comment section, what can you expect?

  • @garrgravarr
    @garrgravarr 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

    I'm incredibly gay, 39th comment, and Felix is humorous, but am just sincerely wondering why Americans are so consistently, negatively fixated on trans people. It's been 4000 years or whatever since the Puritans. It's fine to call me stupid, but give a dog a bone

    • @thomaskarnick9539
      @thomaskarnick9539 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Queerness is on the periphery of most peoples lives. It's a lot easier to rile folks up about something that doeant matter to them than it is to work through practical solutions to boring problems

    • @garrgravarr
      @garrgravarr 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@thomaskarnick9539TY

    • @thecollector6746
      @thecollector6746 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      The US has it's foundation in being a 18th century White Colonial Settler Project. "Othering" those who are not within the base in-group is at the base of the general culture of the US.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@garrgravarr They’ll call you gross and evil, not stupid

    • @ShortStackedgoblin
      @ShortStackedgoblin 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@garrgravarr it’s interesting how the left never accepts their culpability in these issues. One you start saying Trans women in high school and college sports are fine. You’re a bigot if you think drag queen story hour at schools is odd! It’s fine if 8 year olds want hormone therapy.
      The left kinda pushes and pushes and pushes and then people start to push back on SOME of it, the left cry’s you just want me dead!

  • @Erisblackstone
    @Erisblackstone 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    Completely off topic but Jael's voice training is fucking insane

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Erisblackstone voice training?

    • @Chaddumdum
      @Chaddumdum 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@ultravioletiris6241it’s something trans people often do to change their speech to make it more feminine/masculine!

    • @GayTier1Operator
      @GayTier1Operator 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah she’s very passing

  • @lvl99Haunter
    @lvl99Haunter 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    It's just a show folks. It didn't inspire Luigi to take action and don't get mad at them for not motivating you to take action. You weren't going to anyway, you were always just going to lay there and post.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I'd love for the Internet left to learn the difference between reporters reporting a story and activists who are on the ground and organizing. I'm also not surprised to learn that Luigi was a crypto-conservative. Most of the Internet left can't be bothered to get off their asses and organize.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wesleystreet “Organizing” is such a funny one to see brought up so often. The funniest aspect might be how vague it is and how detached it is from the reality of power. For a bunch of Marxists and Leninists and Maoists, American leftists are allergic to understanding how those leaders actually caused change and revolution. Their methods arent at all the type of “”organizing”” that most people have in mind when they whine about how impotent leftists are.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ultravioletiris6241 Their methods were the result of living in rural agrarian society run by Tsars and Emperors, not a modern industrial superpower surveillance state. There are no woods for Che-wannabe LARPers to hide in while engaging in military strikes against state targets. You want to be a Bolshevik and build a parallel source of power, posting isn't going to cut it.

  • @brandfbr
    @brandfbr 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +38

    I think it's telling and depressing that Jael had no organisations or plan of action to point to. Even when Will pushed her a couple of times.
    This is not a knock on them. They clearly are knowledgeable about the topic and have done great work. Yet they had no organisation or concrete movement to point to. Truly terrifying

    • @brandfbr
      @brandfbr 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      Maybe they have no organising experience, so they just didn't have that kind of know-how about having a course of action and telling people to join this or that movement... But I think it sort of proves their original point: there is little to no movement infrastructure to defend Trans people, so it really needs to be built from the ground up

    • @Leafeon56
      @Leafeon56 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@brandfbr im an organizer for a community org thats multi-tendency in a big city- theres nothing. it honestly feels like the world is ending. all the energy is on housing, palestine and immigration. everything thats been circulating is like, a petition which is marginally better than doing nothing.

    • @proofofmyexistence
      @proofofmyexistence 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      noticed this right around the 19 minute mark-ish. she just decided to answer a question that was never asked.... personally, i think its criminal that we're going to try to stop little boys from cutting their dicks off. she should have just said that.

    • @st2udent_650
      @st2udent_650 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      No , that is 100 % on them.

    • @gamerknown
      @gamerknown 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@proofofmyexistence aren’t trump’s grandkids circumcised

  • @satyasyasatyasya5746
    @satyasyasatyasya5746 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    *the 1%:* expend the poor for profit
    *the 99%:* end the rich for planet & people

  • @Erasmustherobot
    @Erasmustherobot 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Felix is joking, but I lived in a town like that once, I'm a dour pessimist, nay sayer, in that town I walk into a room and you'd think Maurice fucking Chevalier came in just by using basic respect and manners

  • @anzov1n
    @anzov1n 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    How are the CEO shooters politics confused exactly? Implicitly lumping him with the trump shooters is just a bizarrely dismissive take.

    • @MitchMcConnellsTurtleShell
      @MitchMcConnellsTurtleShell 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yea that was extremely cringe, sometimes this show (mostly Felix) supplies a lot of cringe

    • @SethGordon-nz3jb
      @SethGordon-nz3jb ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      He's anti-insurance billionaire, but pro-tech billionaire.

    • @face_laid_waste408
      @face_laid_waste408 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      he loves Musk, Thiel, Huberman, et al?

  • @Robot_Eva
    @Robot_Eva 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    I dunno I mean I think it's easy to feel hopeless in the face of this incoming adversity but I think we have to remember that this isn't the first time shit has been bad for trans people and I doubt it'll be the last time either. We continue to survive and sometimes even thrive in spite of what the government tries to do to stop us from living our authentic lives. It's ok to be afraid but if Reagan wasn't the end of the world, if trump wasn't the end of the world the first time, he probably won't be this time either. We are stronger and more capable than the people trying to destroy us and we cant make their jobs any easier by laying down to die

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Robot_Eva things will get better once people actually decide to start re education of Abrahamic religious people. China is taking the lead there, and likely pulling the rest of the developed world along with it in the coming decades

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Robot_Eva Im not sure what it will take for people to embrace enforced suppression of crazy cults , like China does. Probably will have to lose a lot more first unfortunately

    • @cloudycolacorp
      @cloudycolacorp 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think it's the fact that they're trying to violently put the genie back in the bottle. It's clampdown against things mostly getting better

    • @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh
      @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ultravioletiris6241if you think half the country is a “crazy cult,” I’d recommend walking outside and touching grass. 🌞

  • @mysos4371
    @mysos4371 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Why couldn't this guest answer a simple question about the politics and strategy of the issue she is an expert on? If it is as dire as she says (and it probably is), you would think she would have an answer.

    • @Lorspartan
      @Lorspartan 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      She literally stated that she writes primarily on climate news, that is her expertise. She is just a politically connected trans journalist.

    • @TheTrailRabbit
      @TheTrailRabbit ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Lorspartan so why was she chosen to be the spokesperson for this issue?

    • @Lorspartan
      @Lorspartan ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@TheTrailRabbitsorry, we have to reconvene the trans council and pick a better trans-rep. Maybe reach out to Will and Felix through email and complain. I'm sure they care.

  • @jjb.6152
    @jjb.6152 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Good morning Vietnam

  • @lp211_
    @lp211_ 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

    Jael did an amazing job, great episode

  • @ashleyfurrow4414
    @ashleyfurrow4414 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    Thanks for covering this

  • @joshb6132
    @joshb6132 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +35

    Trans rights are human rights!!!

    • @acetate909
      @acetate909 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      And what rights don't trans people have?

    • @gamerknown
      @gamerknown 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@acetate909the right to healthcare according to Trump. All gender transition surgery will be defunded at the federal level. They’ll also be banned from playing sports

    • @defro125
      @defro125 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​@@acetate909 The decency to use a restroom without other people performing a body search

    • @KrankuSama
      @KrankuSama 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​​​@@acetate909Trans people need reasonable and positive accomodation and rights to access healthcare, housing and employment that they currently do not have. We need to institute positive rights, asking what rights trans people lack is ignoring the fact that rights that wouldn't affect cis people do affect trans people.
      In some states it is not legal for trans people to change their gender on documentation and in many cases trans people are denied legal name changes explicitly because they're trans, even when cis people can change their name without issue. That's just one example of a positive right that needs instituting, the legal right to amend official documents.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@KrankuSama Tbh that doesn’t sound like a very popular issue with the establishment. I think if trans people were less buddy buddy with establishment dems (who dont really want to help them) they would achieve more. Most trans activitists i know are closer to the dem establishment than the progressive fringe. Which is very interesting

  • @janedoughnut852
    @janedoughnut852 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I don’t know Altoona but I’d guess if you wore a Covid-era mask and whipped out a laptop you’d stand out like a sore thumb to other McPatrons.

  • @adriandavies8097
    @adriandavies8097 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I needed this at 730am

  • @ps2man
    @ps2man 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    I gotta give it to Luigi, he nutted up and acted in a way that wouldn’t even be in the frame of reference of anyone in the western left (myself included). He acted and actually made some impact on decisions made by bluecross blueshield hours later.

  • @jt9124
    @jt9124 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    “Assemble an ikea dresser without a map” lol journalism

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      She’s definitely built her own furniture before lol

    • @jellydonut2036
      @jellydonut2036 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Dressers, how do they work?

  • @rwrunning1813
    @rwrunning1813 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    Third and straight (sorry guys)

    • @metrodonkey8093
      @metrodonkey8093 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      big fan of bronze medal winning hetrows

  • @ambrose5125
    @ambrose5125 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Altoona is the home of Sheetz- the best made to order food in the gas station chain game. Corporate America at its best.

  • @ВиталийДмитриевичБутерин
    @ВиталийДмитриевичБутерин 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +29

    Show ends at 5:14

    • @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526
      @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Exactly

    • @fancykarlmarx
      @fancykarlmarx 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      It doesn’t though. This is important to a lot of people.

    • @Materialist39
      @Materialist39 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@fancykarlmarxeveryone is a reactionary freak apparently now

    • @Cricket-gp5ww
      @Cricket-gp5ww 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      You are right I couldn’t make it through a single sentence of this horrible guest. What a joke.

    • @avialexander
      @avialexander 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@fancykarlmarx I'm ostensibly in that group of people this is important to. This guest was ass. She did a terrible job presenting any facts, or predictions, or actions we should take. She was in script-mode the whole show, saying lots of long intense sentences that don't actually mean anything or lead to any conclusions.

  • @nono-ky2yu
    @nono-ky2yu 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    we're pretty mad in the comments today eh?

  • @NoDozBukowski
    @NoDozBukowski 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Kids: Don't commit suicide because some rich lady on a podcast tells you it's going to help. I guarantee she is not going to commit suicide - she's going to take a month off and then write more articles for Rolling Stone.

    • @colincassidy1817
      @colincassidy1817 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      Famously that is why trans people commit suicide… it has nothing to do with transphobia and not getting healthcare. Ffs

  • @thomaskarnick9539
    @thomaskarnick9539 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +25

    "Its not my job to say" youre literary a journalist reporting as an expert on the issue. SAYING IS YOUR ONLY JOB

    • @thomaskarnick9539
      @thomaskarnick9539 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      "What should people do?" "Nows the time to do something" moron

    • @benleavens5496
      @benleavens5496 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      This was exactly where I stopped listening. The whole tone of this interview was off putting but when you are asked a simple softball question that you are an expert in and can't answer....

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@benleavens5496 Its very disappointing that trans people who are part of the coastal intellectual elite cant even verbalize a proper strategy for moving forward. Yet they take up the vast majority of online space and attention.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thomaskarnick9539 Rolling Stone journalist who interviewed nothing but establishment hacks. Why expect anymore than what we got tbh?

    • @a19enemy
      @a19enemy 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      well she’s a journalist not a political consultant

  • @ChesaFreakBoyzFishingVideos
    @ChesaFreakBoyzFishingVideos 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    A close second lol

  • @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526
    @ashtangaxashtangapranayama8526 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

    Yall r dumb, i want more Mangioni

    • @janerozental
      @janerozental 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      💯

  • @JacobofNewEngland
    @JacobofNewEngland 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Fucking hell this pod is adrift without Matt or Amber. Shots were fired in a long-overdue class war, and they talk about it for five minutes before devoting the rest of the episode to some Twitter resistance-lib cause du jour.

    • @PleatherForBreakfast
      @PleatherForBreakfast 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      devote yourself to playing in traffic

    • @TheTrailRabbit
      @TheTrailRabbit ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@PleatherForBreakfast nah he's right - this shit sucked

    • @Lorspartan
      @Lorspartan ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@TheTrailRabbitanother devote for the traffic ritual.

    • @face_laid_waste408
      @face_laid_waste408 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "Twitter resistance-lib cause du jour" is cheering on a McDonald's vigilante. That's more entertainment as politics than trans healthcare, buddy.

  • @knives7_7
    @knives7_7 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    🪼🍾🎯🎖️🚦🗜️🎈✂️

    • @garcalej
      @garcalej 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      🐋🎩🍎🍵?

    • @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh
      @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      🫃?

    • @garcalej
      @garcalej 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      🔭👽🍭💋-🐍🐘👃🐍🐘,📫👽👃!!

  • @thecoolestfool7688
    @thecoolestfool7688 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Got really upset in the morning of trump's win as a UK tranner due to it affecting me too (DIY hrt costing more)

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @thecoolestfool7688 Yikes

    • @thecoolestfool7688
      @thecoolestfool7688 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ultravioletiris6241 I know the USA trans healthcare sucks but it's beyond awful here, waitlist go get hrt is 6 years

  • @joeyrufo
    @joeyrufo 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    34:44 WTF HAPPENED TO "WE'RE HERE, WE'RE QUEER, GET USED TO IT"!? 👀👀👀👀👀

    • @transom2
      @transom2 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Jamming things down people's throats always makes such things popular with the public.

    • @joeyrufo
      @joeyrufo 43 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      @transom2 HOW IS *EXISTING* "JAMMING" ANYTHING DOWN ANYONE'S THROAT!? SOUNDS LIKE THE PHOBIA TALKING TO ME! EXAMINE YOUR FEELINGS! SHINE A LIGHT INTO YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS! SMOKE A SHITLOAD OF WEED AND LOOK AT YOURSELF IN A DISTORTED MIRROR AND THINK ABOUT WHY YOU'RE LETTING QUEERPHOBIA RULE YOUR LIFE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU THINK OUR EXISTENCE IN PUBLIC IS A PERSONAL AFFRONT TO YOU! AND DON'T COME BACK UNTIL YOU DO! 👏👏👏

  • @ADITYAMISHRA-h7g
    @ADITYAMISHRA-h7g 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    First

  • @TheManWithNoNickname13
    @TheManWithNoNickname13 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Does your guest have music on Bandcamp?

  • @benleavens5496
    @benleavens5496 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    Trans rights are important. None of us are free until all of us are free and all that, but I couldn't get behind the message of this guest. If you want to get people on your side, you have to be compelling. She was just depressing, hyperbolic, and pessimistic, as well as having zero solutions other than, "unless everyone takes to the streets trans people will die."

    • @Lorspartan
      @Lorspartan 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +36

      Because it's depressing and dire. No way around that, sorry. should we be happy?
      Im sick of being called a pedo in public. I'm sick of fearing for my life as a trans person. Our Healthcare is on the line and all our work nd activism from the last 12 years is about to be unraveled like nothing.
      Sometimes we don't have solutions and shit just sucks.

    • @mj.l
      @mj.l 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +26

      "this topic is admittedly important, but i'm too shallow to be moved because of how it was presented to me on a free podcast.
      cis first world problems eh?

    • @toritwopointoh
      @toritwopointoh 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +26

      Her community is facing untold horrors and you're asking her to smile more

    • @jgs0025
      @jgs0025 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      As if on cue, the YASSDRAMAQUEENS appear in the comments.
      Stop crying about it, you're not being subjected to LiTeRaL gEnOcIdE

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@jgs0025 Fake leftie spotted.

  • @nathanblish162
    @nathanblish162 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    I disagree with so much of what the guest said. Had to look up some numbers like when she said trans people were 2% of the population that sounded really high, and yeah maybe she was rounding up from 1.1, which seems small in comparison to lots of other things like the childbirth mortality rate of black women. So not against trans people but confused as to why it gets so much political bandwidth

    • @lvl99Haunter
      @lvl99Haunter 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

      Because no one is arguing if black women even exist, let alone if they should exist.

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@lvl99Haunter I think it’s really telling that most of the professionals on the Washington beltway, such as the dem staffers she talked to, don’t actually consider trans issues to be relevant to their daily jobs. Is this because of lack of social pressure? Or because both parties care mostly about corporate issues and little else? I bet the USA have way more homeless than trans people

    • @lvl99Haunter
      @lvl99Haunter 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

      ​@@ultravioletiris6241 most dem staffers don't consider the genocide in Gaza to be relevant to their daily lives and careers. I bet there is more homeless people in every country than trans people. I bet there are a lot of problems affecting more than 1% of the population, unfortunately, this episode isn't about them.

    • @mugiwaraboshi37
      @mugiwaraboshi37 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      “Confused why it gets so much political bandwidth” it’s because the right wing is using trans people as a scapegoat. And since they’re attacking this community, leftists are defending them. Also I mean why are you complaining about Chapo devoting a single episode out of hundreds to this issue.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@ultravioletiris6241 Trans people are only an "issue" because the Republican party messaging machine swamps everything else in the media space.

  • @HesGotaGun505
    @HesGotaGun505 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

    The ‘life and death’ language from the guest is absurd.

    • @daraghokane4236
      @daraghokane4236 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

      You don't think people would die or have a worse quality of health if republicans decided the budget

    • @blackbeard00
      @blackbeard00 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +26

      Ah yes because healthcare doesn't have anything to do with life and death.. right...

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@daraghokane4236 I think that both parties have so far agreed on the state of healthcare. Unless it actually forces the dems to support healthcare, what’s the point in getting riled up just to take no action? Just to suggest no specific action? There would be a point to riling people up about the rep party if it would actually lead to a more equitable health system - but nothing indicates that bland support of the other side is going to deliver that. So for most people i think its fair for them to view the parties as largely equal

    • @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh
      @jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Meanwhile, in Palestine. . .

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jfeuwhgsf8326bydfh Yeah, yeah, we can only do one thing at a time.

  • @bowlingod90
    @bowlingod90 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Her reaching out to this audience oof where do the think the trans apathy came from lady

  • @matttriano
    @matttriano 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    YEAH but ehhn

  • @jnramage
    @jnramage 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Always love to see chapo talk about trans rights and health when normal days they diminish the importance or are unwilling to make temporary alliances Just full of shit.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Aren't a listener to Will's Movie Mindset podcast, huh? Who's his co-host on that...?

    • @Robot_Eva
      @Robot_Eva 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Dude what the fuck are you talking about, are we listening to the same show?

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@wesleystreet “I have a gay friend”

    • @DepletedMatrix-y1e
      @DepletedMatrix-y1e 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      wow other people aren't doing enough to platform your boutique political subculture??? it's a dumb show that exists purely for entertainment purposes. capitalism really does just turn everyone into narcissists lol.

    • @wesleystreet
      @wesleystreet 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ultravioletiris6241 "I have cliche retorts because all I do is post."

  • @Cricket-gp5ww
    @Cricket-gp5ww 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +23

    Guest was horrible.

    • @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian
      @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      Why?

    • @mj.l
      @mj.l 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      your mum was horrible

    • @ultravioletiris6241
      @ultravioletiris6241 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian a lot of the more in depth explanations have been deleted in the last couple hours. Probably to spare her feelings. It is what it is.

    • @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian
      @ValerietheLovelyDeadlyItalian 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@ultravioletiris6241 Yea I doubt that very much. She probably isn't reading your shit ass rambles about how much you don't like the term "birthing person" or whatever. If you can't actually give any explanation for why you don't like the guest, just don't bother commenting, because you have nothing of substance to say about it.

    • @Wilbo23
      @Wilbo23 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Shaddup