Microsoft’s CEO on the Metaverse and Flexible Work
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2021
- Few people have more insight than Nadella into how teams collaborate and innovate successfully.
HBR editor in chief Adi Ignatius interviewed the Microsoft CEO to discuss what team collaboration will look like going forward, the next generation of workplace technology, the new imperatives of leadership - and whether and when our future workplaces will in fact start to look like the “metaverse” fantasies of science fiction.
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Great insight Mr. Nadella! "Nobody quits companies, they quit managers."
Unless the person wants to quit, takes frequent coffee breaks; that can slow the work process.
Nah, I liked my manager but hated my company
@@BeCool125 it is one or the other same. You should have researched more of the company before applying it to them. It is you who went for a job not they asked you to work onna gunpoint.
Not really true. Plenty quit because their company doesn't pay so good even if they like their manager but it's out of his control
Still true. Loved this interview. Managers can indeed make or break it for us all.
The best CEO in America right now. He knows what’s up, how the next 5-10 years will look like. Proud investor
"Creating software tools and nudges to help with week ties." Brilliant! LinkedIn, Teams, Office 365 all coming together for providing a 360 view of the interlocutor
It's an amazing that Harvard business review has their own TH-cam channel. Great. Love it. Live with it.
This is some amazing insight and thought provoking. I love that he is very open with the concept of embracing uncertainty and shifting with the sentiments and voices of employees.
Just an amazing conversation, he really transformed Microsoft. But another thing that people have realized during the pandemic, is that their real family, is the one they have at home. The paradigm of the "At XXX company, we are a family" is eroding. People are valuing more closest relationships they have, family, friends, neighbors over co-workers and company culture. You can invest years of your life in a company building professional relationships, advancing, being proud of your work, and then get laid off at the snap of a finger.
Mr. Nadella is a great eco of Microsoft, he changed Microsoft a lot.
Like this conversation. And these are 3 points I got at the first time watching.
I think I need to watch it more!
1. Empathy~"Nobody quits companies, they quit managers."
2. leading，Make the work more meaningful, not a transaction
3. Before metaverse, we add computational into physics,; in metaverse, we add physics into computational.
There is no interview where Satya says "Empathy". He is incredible.
You're working at the right place if you can answer both questions with "Yes": Do I work for the company? AND Does the company work for me?
Explains why Microsoft is doing so well. So many valuable insights on leadership shared here.
Deep empathy : Thank you Satya Nadella.
He is a great man. Thanks HBR.
such an insightful interview.. concept of weak link and strong link is tremendous. and superb insight "people don't leave company, they leave Managers"
What an awesome interview. I have seen several interviews and talks featuring Satya Nadella and what always strikes me about him is how authentically, genuinely and meaningfully he speaks and answers the questions, as if he has given these a lot of thought and consideration and not just speaking through his hat.
Loved this interview, learnt so much. Thank you for sharing it. Empathy all the way!
design thinking = empathy = putting yourself in other people shoes .. GREAT Sir ...
I love working at a co-working location. I get to have my focus time but also socialize with those at other companies next to me
Very insightful interview by Adi to Satya Nadella, all the time my favourite. I like the concept of weak tie and strong tie, Outside in and inside out, emphasise on caring part of a manager, overall development of connecting tech from e-mail - audio call- video meeting - immersive meeting, and finally the feelings he had of being first time manager. Excellent.
Empathy is really the keyword. Thats what makes the world work together in any situation. In a time when we are physically disconnected, empathy really is the characteristic that has come out of everyone. From the simplest things such as, "Hey, I need a short break" to a lot more complex situations, the transfer of that characteristic onto the virtual world is what really makes connections happen. Thank you for a wonderful conversation Satya! This was one of those interviews that felt like a connection between humans instead of a highly successful person giving bread crumbs.
very humble man , and is well respected among the people
Loved the way Satya said that we still need time to settle to new norms and then find causal relations.
Fantastic interview. Full of insights and interesting ideas.
Great interview! One of the biggest problem that I have seen at Microsoft Canada and in all the other countries that I have lived and worked showed me one thing: you get promoted thanks to click/group that you belong and not thanks to your talents and accomplishments. I could make a a comedy about Microsoft Canada where the marketing, product and the sales group used to waste so much time in useless PowerPoint presentations where people used to attend just to show that they were busy. During these meetings no one used to follow the presentation and instead text and send e-mails. AT the end of the meeting they re-schedule a follow up meeting which would be as useless as the one that you just attended.
I liked the last comment about empathy, a deeply human quality, being the core of innovation.
What does empathy have to do with innovation?
An amazing conversation. So much to learn from Nadella. Many lessons.
But he couldn't crack. IIT
Great discussion and presentation. Wise words.
A great CEO, very insightful
A meaningful interaction and more importantly how we can be improved as a human being and enroute a deep understanding with the people and create a better world for tomorrow
Really refreshing take.
It hit me at 10:31 that Satya Nadella is on the mark.
Mr. Nadella would make an incredible cricket commentator!
I can hear him saying "A masterclass on batting, that over was I tell you!"
Of course he is a big cricket fan himself
That digitization of everything, including recordings, does improve the spread of company knowledge but at the same time will also prevent people from speaking up and create a negative company culture. A lot of people already have some degree of stage fright along with a fear of saying something viewed as dumb that it further increases their mental barrier to have what they say be recorded and easily accessible by anyone in the company, at any time. Also, what kind of culture does digitization create since it will be used in part to determine promotions, salary increases and termination decisions. People will be fighting over an explicit description of their contributions in conversations as they worry they will not get credit if someone else has the first digital foot print of it.
Can HBR give some advice on setting boundaries to workload/ work time without hampering career progression?
Great interview! Lots of thoughts and insights.
I hope it is permissible to use this conversation as an exercise to students learning about the nature of work? We plan to use this as it is very impressive, and the youth should learn.
Great interview. Thx
Great interview! Question: what software do you use to record/conduct these interviews?
Definitely a great statement.
My finger points at me where change always resides but sometimes hides.
Very sharp and smart CEO! Thumbs up.
Great insightful interview 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Watching this on Windows 11 using my Surface pro 8. :-D
When Satya speaks, you listen.
Must watch .
I love the ending part about empathy, shared it with my group but the reply or comment i got from one of my leadership was very....i dont know how to explain... This is the reply translated from Malay language...."In an organization if too much goes in people's shoes will eventually lead to stress and can eventually lead to bankrupt management"
The interview said, roughly... "leaders are not born they adapt and learn and grow"
I used to work at Microsoft, and Lisa Brummel believed that leaders were born, they couldn't be made. I argued with her about that, pointing to the Marine Corps where it's expected that every Marine can be a leader, some are born, most have to learn and take the courage to step up.
Of course she absolutely refused to accept that, and in the process, destroyed the review process at Microsoft with the 20-70-10 model turning it into a competition complete with back stabbing with a focus on success of self, rather than a focus on the team's success.
I'm no longer there but I'm glad she's gone and that the review model, I've heard, has returned to some level of normalcy.
Meeting are recordered? (with permission lol...) What a wonderful world!!!
Great resignation is temporary soon the great resigned will realize constant money flow is required to keep stomachs full.
Educated Indians both genders with knowledge and know how are one of the finest minds in intellect and intelligence of world and way of fine speech vocalizing what they have to say.
Bravo
he is the king
Nice
19:33 Metaverse
That final question i would have said: problem solving.. but you summed it up in very humane way with i believe describes the emotion behind problem solving.. empathy!! it is the emotion you feel for the the problem you to want to solve an a good human nature provides you with the emotion that leads to motivation to see the problem solving through till the point of bringing a concept solution to market.. that's innovation to me.. i hope that's what you mean by empathy.. that's how i understood it anyway.. Cheers Microsoft!! understanding how we feel about wanting to make a better future for the people of earth.. forgive me if i sound retarded.. i don't know what I'm talking about.. i haven't been educated by traditional means.. i just know Microsoft is now the highest capped stock in the market in what 16 months? and i share the same name as the location of the head quarters.. thanks for your time
Is sitting in one place and talking about work, work? The energy within someone , what happens to that and how does that fall into the unfinished puzzle of communication? Is the term "work place" so limiting, that even in the virtual world we are in a box? The Universe hopefully is beyond definition. Hope the "Metaverse" catches up. (just my thought)
wow awesome
Very insightful. But still bugs me a few points, like about "not need to answer messages on weekends: workers should not get those messages on weekends at all. We have the technology to prevent that, don´t we?
good video
This is Devon with DCWB. We are a meta based business network. Our business structure would raise 4 million at just 10 Memberships.Let's be real, there's are only 3 reasons why you wouldn't want to do business with us;
You don't think it would work. (we have a plan)
You don't think people would use it. (we are creating the utility)
You dont think it would be profitable. (NFT projects with no utility sell for millions. We are creating utility for businesses not consumers)
Look there are three possibilities
1. you ignore this (no sweat of either of us)
2. you have a 15 minute meeting and forget all about me after the fact.
or
3. We have a 15 minute meeting. You like what you see and make billions!
1:49
General Public: "We're not going to keep wearing these VR's all the time.
Microsoft,Nvidia, Meta: "Look, We're not going to argue with you ... Its the only way its going to work, Alright ????
Sold! I want in.. -j
sounds like an office version of the game 'vrchat'.
I'm already puking
at no point did I have a problem with a manager that forced me to quit. try working 98 hours of focused thinking.
This CEO is not only sharp but someone with great empathy… the fact that he’s thinking about someone else’s unvaccinated young children… what a fabulous leader!!!
"Sign Me Up"
Empathy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love the complexity of language that these people use to make us all feel like they own the future; just get MS word to stop making bad correction recommendations and I'll be happy.
And to some extent, they do actually own a good part of the future
The final answer is just so beautiful.
The only problem is this is going to increase depression and other mental issues because not everyone is blessed to have a normal family and social circle. Also people that work in IT don’t want to socialize because only such love machines. This going to have to work forced them to get out of their cocoon. I like wfh but I see grave consequences in the long run from people perspective and certain cities financial stability. Companies are mostly going to thrive because they can get talents from around the world. This takes away the resource location limitation.
You are right on your comment that people do not leave companies but leave their managers. The reason is the lack of care and empathy that you later developed during this interview. I think that Microsoft has evolved but RACISM was a major problem at Microsoft Canada and many people use to leave the company. They would have an African American in the leadership just to show that they were not racist but it was only a show. There was as well another major issue between a Full Time Employee (FTE) and the other employees working at Microsoft as a second class non FTE. This was a good trick to falsify the real numbers that worked at Microsoft Canada by having these non-Microsoft employees working through third parties without any benefits and future. NON FTE's were not authorized to use any of the facilities on the campus and they had a badge with a different color in order to show that they were not a real Microsoft employee. It reminded me of the Nazi Germany occupation where the Jewish people had to wear the yellow sign of Star of David. People do not know how ugly is Microsoft looking from outside. It is great to see Satya as the new CEO with a non-Anglo-Saxon background.
I am from India.
Jargon king
A bit unfortunate that African languages are not part of the equation in that AI nlp revolution, transfer learning is a good attempt at dealing with this challenge but easy for a native speaker to see its mistakes,, of course am sure it will improve with time
I truly feel no matter how great of a creation I may have been apart of as I do my best within my own personal battles being physically present with the World's greatest Leaders , I sincerely am saddened that Mentally I cannot consistantly engage as I know I can. I put to much on myself here ,no Love or appreciation is one thing but when anything is wrong in this house all fingers point to me as the worst sibling.I have a problem not being able to walk away. Tomorrow maybe I'll find my feet.
Adi Ignatius is having such a hard time understanding Nadella .... having little understanding of technology and management ... asking such open and light questions and simply can't reply or challenge anything Nadella said ...is just sad. Nadella is just having a great time :)
The seems to be a interview is a high level overview for people who may not be aware of current thinking? Ie. ME. Unnecessary energy, its important to understand by context the intent of a show, before critiquing.
24 Steve Ballmer fans
the moderator "ya interesting.." -- he is either bored or have no idea what Satya is speaking about ... poor imho 😒
😘😘😘😘😘😘😘
Can i hire Microsoft make platform Metaverse for me i willing pay for your satisfaction. Please answer me.
Microsoft couldn't pivot to VR doing too many things at once leads to opportunity loss
In the decade anterior to Pandemic World has transformed Co.,🎁
why invest in the company if the company does not give a fuck about you? They will place that job ad before your obituary is up.
Mr. Nadella - why doesn’t your HR respond properly? They give verbal offers and disappear. Very unprofessional!
Is he already and NFT in the metaverse? Those books look fake 🌚
Wow Mr.Nadella Seems To Mimic The Body Language, Smile etc Of Bill Gates.
He’s a smart guy, but that Viva/AI/Meta product seems like big brother watching over each and every person in a very de-humanizing way. What is viewed as serendipity to a few sounds a lot like Creepers in Minecraft.
The new world of work it means the new world order 😂
Tbh I could be the CEO of Microsoft
So... 3d avatars on ms teams. Lol. All this talk... and that is the result.
But IT companies are not part of real world!!! They can work from home forever!!! But rest of the world is different
is it just me or does he copy bill gates' gesturing
The Dalai Lama of tech
Ask him if women can now ask for raises
msn kill my computer
Microsoft lacks credibility when orienting itself around the human aspects of work because it is a very inhuman organization.
I appreciate Nadella’s ideas but when he uses words like “first order artifacts” it reminds me that my time there was spent trying to decode endless buzzwords. (They even had an employee search box to look up buzzwords words maintained by full time librarian!)
In order to build a human organization you need to first talk like a human and treat other people like human beings. I didn’t experience a lot of that at the company.
Lets talk about the massive failure of his operating system, and how he doesnt fool anyone.
Along with great benefits along the way really! Great pay is also a thing to think about as well. But honestly MS SUCKS AS A COMPANY! THEY CAN'T DESIGN SOFTWARE GOOD AT ALL! GOOGLE DESIGNS BETTER ACCROSS THE BROAD!
What a load of BS
sorry not gonna listen to this interview. indian accent too heavy
😂😂😂 You are funny, Mr. Chow. By the way, I like your restaurants.
Yeah, eat some bat soup .may be it will help you digest some Indian accent
Of course he is an Indian
Good leadership serves humanity not good accent.
Bigg digitial assets just made strategic investment into terrazero technologies which is big in the metaverse. BBKCF shareprice will erupt in the years to come. Very profitable as this space grows. Check out the stock BBKCF and get in while it's super cheap.