Arguably my favourite Kubrick film. Such immense power and feeling in the acting and direction makes it more focused and arguably better than the book. Incredibly applicable to the politics of today even. I wish more people would see this film.
DomWrath Not my favorite, but I've seen it almost as many times as 1933's King Kong, probably upwards of 30, 40, 50 times. Except for Fear & Desire, I've seen all of Kubrick's films at least 4 times each.
Not just favorite Kubrick film, it is one of my all-time favorite films. Up there with grande illusion. Sad Kirk Douglas died, but he lived to be 103 and filled other people's lives with performances so genuine, one could believe that what they were watching something that was really happening and not just acting on a set.
Betsy Rocks. Same with me, I just caught it on TV in some deserted time slot and it made a huge impression on me. I had no idea who Kubrick was, no knowledge of cinema, but it stood out from the tame fare I was brought up on and taught me something about how the world, unfortunately, works.
I watch this movie at least once a year. Gets better every time I see it. Last time my 10 year old son watched it with me. I didn't think he'd like it because it's b/w but he was mesmerized!
A very good movie that also carries a strong stand against military injustice, is the Australian film, "Breaker Morant". Also, I used to show this movie to my World History classes as a part of our unit on WWI. The students were always shocked when the men were actually executed at the end. Because as Americans, we usually demand a happy ending.
Kirk Douglas: I met the director, Stanley Kubrick. He said he had a script called PATHS OF GLORY. I read the script and fell in love with it. "Stanley, I don't think this picture will ever make a nickel, but we HAVE to make it." I got financing. It wasn't easy. When I arrived in Munich, I was greeted with a completely rewritten script. "Stanley, why would you do that?"
A very eloquent description of Paths of Glory. One of my absoluteabsolute favorite movies. It’s one of those movies you can watch time and again, and always discover something different or see it in a different way. I always felt it’s power was that it was one of the only war films that ever dealt with the politics of war, there’s a touch of that in Black Hawk down and 13 Hours and Zero Dark Thirty. However, no film does it with the alacrity of Kubrick’s Paths of Glory. It is nice to hear someone with such steps of understanding ruminate on this superlative movie.
@@jamesalexander5623 I watched the other review aswell and really stumbled over the term "enabler". But Simon says the same thing, only with more compassion for the character Dax: that he is diminished by authority, so much, that he can´t do more for his man than giving them a few minutes of peace before the slaughter starts all over again.
Sometimes that's all you can do, as a hero. Stand your ground, despite knowing it won't do any good. It's like King Theoden at the Pelennor Fields. He rode to his death, convinced mankind could not overcome the forces of evil. But he rode anyway. It isn't about winning sometimes, it's just about making a point, refusing to give, even if it accomplishes nothing and costs you everything, sometimes you must draw a line and say "No further, I cannot be pushed any further" and if that's your life then that's that. Better to stand on morals and die and have history judge you a decent man than to survive into your old age, having compromised your beliefs, your soul, for a few more years on this earth. The brave man dies only once, but the coward dies a thousand deaths.
a film that i'm glad to get as a birthday present last year as it's one of my favorite films by kubrick. there is always something new with every re-watch of a kubrick film.
My father in a rare moment of sanity let me stay up on a school night to watch this movie. I was about13-14. I've never forgotten it. It took me years to get my own copy of it. Certainly in my top 20.
Not enough attention is paid to ones character when being appointed to a senior position. Once it is made, particularly in some professions, it is difficult to undo. It results in wrongdoing with all hands tied - processes and systems take on a life of their own and the only controls we have left are the values applied when decisions are made. What a film this is. What a film.
This is my second time watching this video. I would argue, looking back, that Paths of Glory is perhaps the greatest film ever made also perhaps the greatest critique of the human condition's tendency toward a certain exploitation.
The first time I watched it in college the thing that hit me the hardest was the general presuming that Dax was only trying to advance his career. Not even Strangelove was that cynical.
I overlooked it because I was not intelligent enough to appreciate the latent behavioral science behind the film. It's like what Attenborough said.. Different colours ants only kill each other if the Jar is shaken. Who is shaking Society's Jar? I was sobbing like a Fatherless son at the end of this picture. You genuinely get a sense that because Art transcends the lies & propaganda the soldiers are using to condone their madness, that the German women penetrates their delusions - painfully for some.
When "The Wire" and "Paths of Glory" intercepts. I love those pieces of Art so much and I'm not from Baltimore or even American. I don't believe in God- I don't believe in anything to be frank, I think and feel- but God bless you Stanley and David and Ed and everyone. You brought me so much especially in my darkest days- don't go through windshields guys unless you don't have much choice then elbow first!-. Still both Michael and Colonel Dax and many others
This is perhaps the greatest film of all time. I didn't realise this until now but I am something of a Col. Dax, an idealist. As much as I try and play in the system, there is a part of me that is really never ok with it. A part of me that calls out injustice, and lack of respect, when I see it. It causes me issues in life with those who think they're better than me and my peers. I will always challenge, I will not bend the knee. It's both a strength and a fault. It is a trait which should be respected but is oftentimes looked upon as "having an attitude" or "not taking things seriously." Perhaps it was this film, one of my favourites of all time, which made me that way. I don't know, all I can say is I would rather be Dax than those who trample on others to get ahead.
But do you understand the value of the system? It’s very easy to deconstruct and critique, I feel like it’s also very commonplace these days, but it’s much harder to have a nuanced and more accurate analysis of reality by doing both, then and only then can you understand why, too many deconstruct which leads them to conclude the answer of why is simply corruption and exploitation, but this analysis is jejune.
I like the bit when Ralph meeker stated that a cockroach he was contemplating in the cell,would presently have more of a relationship with his wife and child than he would.upon which the prisoner played by timothy Carey brought his fist down on the bug,crushing it and then sarcastically stating”there now you got the edge on the bug.”Ralph Meeker is very impressesive in the Robert Aldrich movie Kiss me deadly,which I believe is available on you Tube.the best Mike Hammer themed movie ever.
One thing is for sure Kirk Douglas is one fantastic powerful actor, what compassion for his art brilliant craftsmanship, such a shame the interesting parts dried up in the mid to late sixties for him
Kubrick said, "To make it commercial. I want to make money." I hit the ceiling. "You come to me with a script. I love THAT script. I got the money, based on THAT script. Not this shit!" I threw the script across the room. "We're going back to the original script, or we're not making the picture."
I still get baffled by this being called an "anti-war" film, not because it doesn't shy away from showing its horrors (and considering this was still Production Code era commercial filmmaking, it's incredible what they *could* show) but because its message runs deeper than just "war is bad because x, y, and z". If anything, it's anti-authoritarian and anti-"systemic hypocrisy" where moral actions are justified not through consistently applied principles but merely by positions of authority.
Derek Power Simon mentioned that in the video though. Saying it works as an anti-war film not because its just anti-war but because its more of an anti-authority film that happens to concern itself with war.
What I was originally commenting on was how Paths of Glory gets the label of an "anti-war film" as if that was the underlining message or intent of the film. So yes, David Simon and I are very much in agreement that it does run much deeper than that label implies.
I think "The Thin Red Line" is also antiwar and does avoid glorifying war. And somehow, I have not watched Paths of Glory. How?! Shrug... On my list to buy next...
I call the first meeting between the generals, the first waltz, and similaire to the second waltz, an actual dance among the French elites. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam. Kubrick captures thé bureaucracy of the war machine.
That's how good Cassavetes' film is. Even when you think of Almadovar's WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN still makes me think of Cassavetes' film.
great commentary and insights. have seen it for the first time today, i think this is the first time that i left the theatre with poignant feelings of utter rage, injustice and hate towards the human kind - over the entirety of the movie an abomination of a human being sat right next to me and chewed loudly close to my ear. just kidding. what i loved about this movie is that it works on different layers. while it is obviously a bold anti-war movie, it is also a story that perfectly examines the human nature. we are dependent on instutions and organization for things to work (as david pointed out) but this comes with issues like abuse of power and the growing gap between high- and low-class people. in a way it also seems like a "anti-authoritarian" story. the role of Kirk Douglas's character also was very intriguing "morally" speaking. is it better to revolt against the system (while revolting seems futile) or is it more adequate to take part in a system and do what you can to make it at least a litte more bearable (kind of solving the problems from the inside instead of revolting from the outside). the movie was wonderfully shot, cannot believe that this is from the 50s. also loved the "absurd humurous" notes here and there ("Are you blackmailing me?" -"That is a disgusting word, but you sure seem to be in a bad position here")
It's a lesser Kubrick, and no surprise Simon thinks it's about a turning point in human relations, rather than being based on relatively shallow liberal sentiments.
Who is this self-important non-entity and why does anyone [other than himself] care what he has to say about the greatest director of all time? Above and beyond his pseudo-intellectual dribble, he even looks like an arrogant prat.
Yeah what has he done? Oh wait, his books are fantastic, he breaks down the prison industrial complex in “The House I Live In”. Oh yeah, he literally made the greatest TV show of all time. The Charles Dickens of our generation. So can you name a better writer/director/producer working today?
I'm with you with both Vince Gilligan and Noah Hawley being awesome and I'd add David Chase and Bryan Fuller but none of their shows have hit the level of "The Wire", although the last 6 episodes of Breaking Bad probably trump any episodes of The Wire, overall its a far superior show. The original comment was that Simon is overrated only Ryan Murphy mentioned so far would be in that category for me.
Arguably my favourite Kubrick film. Such immense power and feeling in the acting and direction makes it more focused and arguably better than the book. Incredibly applicable to the politics of today even. I wish more people would see this film.
DomWrath Not my favorite, but I've seen it almost as many times as 1933's King Kong, probably upwards of 30, 40, 50 times. Except for Fear & Desire, I've seen all of Kubrick's films at least 4 times each.
Not just favorite Kubrick film, it is one of my all-time favorite films. Up there with grande illusion. Sad Kirk Douglas died, but he lived to be 103 and filled other people's lives with performances so genuine, one could believe that what they were watching something that was really happening and not just acting on a set.
"Glory" is your favorite film? I'll go with Strangelove or Space Odyssey if you don't mind.
“Glory” is your favorite film? I’ll go with Barry Lyndon or Full Metal Jacket if you don’t mind.
Just watched this film an hour ago and was so genuinely moved.
now watch come and see
The vindication when you discover that the creator of your favorite TV Series is influenced by (one of) your favorite movies
Exactly, I clicked right when i saw this. Creator of arguably the best TV show in history speaking highly about of of Cinemas greatest.
I saw Paths of Glory in my early teens and was truly moved by it.
Betsy Rocks. Same with me, I just caught it on TV in some deserted time slot and it made a huge impression on me. I had no idea who Kubrick was, no knowledge of cinema, but it stood out from the tame fare I was brought up on and taught me something about how the world, unfortunately, works.
I watch this movie at least once a year. Gets better every time I see it. Last time my 10 year old son watched it with me. I didn't think he'd like it because it's b/w but he was mesmerized!
Romeo Alpha have you read the book?
A very good movie that also carries a strong stand against military injustice, is the Australian film, "Breaker Morant". Also, I used to show this movie to my World History classes as a part of our unit on WWI. The students were always shocked when the men were actually executed at the end. Because as Americans, we usually demand a happy ending.
This man’s a genius. The Wire is the greatest television series ever made and one of the great pieces of art of this century.
Not just this century, The Wire is easily up there with the all time greats as well.
@@zlodrim9284 A televisual contemporary Zola
I think you are understating the magnitude of the wire.surely it must rival the creation of the universe and everything in it and yet to be.
i mean the wire is good. bbut a piece of art ? stop kidding your self.
@@mistry6292 What is a piece of art for you then?
Kirk Douglas: I met the director, Stanley Kubrick. He said he had a script called PATHS OF GLORY. I read the script and fell in love with it. "Stanley, I don't think this picture will ever make a nickel, but we HAVE to make it." I got financing. It wasn't easy. When I arrived in Munich, I was greeted with a completely rewritten script. "Stanley, why would you do that?"
Heartbreaking, brutal film, with one of the best final scenes in cinema. Well crafted, well acted.
could honestly watch David Simon talk for hours and The Wire is truly a remarkable series.
A very eloquent description of Paths of Glory. One of my absoluteabsolute favorite movies. It’s one of those movies you can watch time and again, and always discover something different or see it in a different way. I always felt it’s power was that it was one of the only war films that ever dealt with the politics of war, there’s a touch of that in Black Hawk down and 13 Hours and Zero Dark Thirty. However, no film does it with the alacrity of Kubrick’s Paths of Glory. It is nice to hear someone with such steps of understanding ruminate on this superlative movie.
As powerless as he was Dax stood by his men and drove the hypocrisy of the chain of command home as he defended them. Pretty goddam heroic in my book.
Exactly! .... Another Reviewer called Dax an "Enabler" .... It's 1916 for Christ's Sake not 2021! .... He did the best he could for his men! Period!
@@jamesalexander5623
I watched the other review aswell and really stumbled over the term "enabler". But Simon says the same thing, only with more compassion for the character Dax: that he is diminished by authority, so much, that he can´t do more for his man than giving them a few minutes of peace before the slaughter starts all over again.
Sometimes that's all you can do, as a hero. Stand your ground, despite knowing it won't do any good. It's like King Theoden at the Pelennor Fields. He rode to his death, convinced mankind could not overcome the forces of evil. But he rode anyway. It isn't about winning sometimes, it's just about making a point, refusing to give, even if it accomplishes nothing and costs you everything, sometimes you must draw a line and say "No further, I cannot be pushed any further" and if that's your life then that's that. Better to stand on morals and die and have history judge you a decent man than to survive into your old age, having compromised your beliefs, your soul, for a few more years on this earth. The brave man dies only once, but the coward dies a thousand deaths.
We humans are truly horrible. Kubrick knew this.
#WokeasFuck
We're all monsters?
Evil resides in EVERYONE'S heart!
@@seanramsdell4172 We can be under the right circumstances!
a film that i'm glad to get as a birthday present last year as it's one of my favorite films by kubrick. there is always something new with every re-watch of a kubrick film.
My father in a rare moment of sanity let me stay up on a school night to watch this movie. I was about13-14. I've never forgotten it. It took me years to get my own copy of it. Certainly in my top 20.
@4:10 The primary objective for the bureaucracy is to preserve the bureaucracy.
Magnificent observations that will go all but unheeded by all pertinent parties of consequence.
Not enough attention is paid to ones character when being appointed to a senior position. Once it is made, particularly in some professions, it is difficult to undo. It results in wrongdoing with all hands tied - processes and systems take on a life of their own and the only controls we have left are the values applied when decisions are made. What a film this is. What a film.
This is my second time watching this video. I would argue, looking back, that Paths of Glory is perhaps the greatest film ever made also perhaps the greatest critique of the human condition's tendency toward a certain exploitation.
Truly an unrivaled masterpiece. I love David Simon’s love of this film (and The Thin Red Line), you see the influence all over his work.
He also comes off as intelligent and masterfully articulate.
Fantastic film, very powerful.
David Simon, TV's saviour.
That's Chris Carter. And Rod Serling even before him.
The first time I watched it in college the thing that hit me the hardest was the general presuming that Dax was only trying to advance his career. Not even Strangelove was that cynical.
"War is a racket", as General Smedley Butler said 90+ years ago.
Would like them to get David Milch to do one of these on McCabe and Mrs. Miller.
One of my top favorites of all times.
I could listen to David Simon talk for hours. One of the great writers and thinkers of our time IMO
R.I.P. KIRK DOUGLAS
Fantastic interview. Sends shivers down the spine.
Paths of Glory (1957), Sahara (1943) and Hell is For Heroes (1962) are three movies about war that impressive me deeply.
That opening of Sahara is amazing. Never seen anything quite like it
Paths of Glory and Eyes Wide Shut are my two favorite films by Stanley Kubrick
Eyes Wide Shut is such a cold movie.
@@ChrisWolff2013 is it of good quality? Or just cold in a bad way
@@brandonb3174 It's cold in that each character has a cold detachment from each other. The mood of the film is also very detached.
I overlooked it because I was not intelligent enough to appreciate the latent behavioral science behind the film. It's like what Attenborough said.. Different colours ants only kill each other if the Jar is shaken. Who is shaking Society's Jar?
I was sobbing like a Fatherless son at the end of this picture. You genuinely get a sense that because Art transcends the lies & propaganda the soldiers are using to condone their madness, that the German women penetrates their delusions - painfully for some.
Excellent comment!
I can understand why the wire was as good as it was. David Simon's observations are spot on!
When "The Wire" and "Paths of Glory" intercepts.
I love those pieces of Art so much and I'm not from Baltimore or even American. I don't believe in God- I don't believe in anything to be frank, I think and feel- but God bless you Stanley and David and Ed and everyone. You brought me so much especially in my darkest days- don't go through windshields guys unless you don't have much choice then elbow first!-.
Still both Michael and Colonel Dax and many others
Terrific comments. So well articulated. Thank you!
I served 20 years in the Airborne Infantry. This movie is why I Love the Army and why I hate the Army !
This is perhaps the greatest film of all time. I didn't realise this until now but I am something of a Col. Dax, an idealist. As much as I try and play in the system, there is a part of me that is really never ok with it. A part of me that calls out injustice, and lack of respect, when I see it. It causes me issues in life with those who think they're better than me and my peers. I will always challenge, I will not bend the knee. It's both a strength and a fault. It is a trait which should be respected but is oftentimes looked upon as "having an attitude" or "not taking things seriously." Perhaps it was this film, one of my favourites of all time, which made me that way. I don't know, all I can say is I would rather be Dax than those who trample on others to get ahead.
But do you understand the value of the system? It’s very easy to deconstruct and critique, I feel like it’s also very commonplace these days, but it’s much harder to have a nuanced and more accurate analysis of reality by doing both, then and only then can you understand why, too many deconstruct which leads them to conclude the answer of why is simply corruption and exploitation, but this analysis is jejune.
you're also really self aggrandizing.
I watched this yesterday for the first time in decades I am still shocked at how little I understood about this movie.
I like the bit when Ralph meeker stated that a cockroach he was contemplating in the cell,would presently have more of a relationship with his wife and child than he would.upon which the prisoner played by timothy Carey brought his fist down on the bug,crushing it and then sarcastically stating”there now you got the edge on the bug.”Ralph Meeker is very impressesive in the Robert Aldrich movie Kiss me deadly,which I believe is available on you Tube.the best Mike Hammer themed movie ever.
One thing is for sure Kirk Douglas is one fantastic powerful actor, what compassion for his art brilliant craftsmanship, such a shame the interesting parts dried up in the mid to late sixties for him
Amazing. Love David Simon and I love this film.
I've always wondered if the The Wire references the wire tap or those sent against "the wire"
Kubrick said, "To make it commercial. I want to make money." I hit the ceiling. "You come to me with a script. I love THAT script. I got the money, based on THAT script. Not this shit!" I threw the script across the room. "We're going back to the original script, or we're not making the picture."
The movie ends with the military drumming and Dax has to get right back to it.
This Under the Influence series is brilliant, thank you Criterion
Col. Dax was a bit more than middle management sir...
He also maneuvers the general out of killing 100 men. At a minimum, he saves 97 lives, and sets in motion some retribution against the general.
I really hope someday the Criterion Collection releases a Jia Zhangke box set. His film's are so amazing and deal in very similar themes.
One of the best films ever made...
The other anti-War movie masterpiece is Grand Illusion where, ironically, a German woman sings in German toward the end of the movie.
Thank you for this analysis.
I still get baffled by this being called an "anti-war" film, not because it doesn't shy away from showing its horrors (and considering this was still Production Code era commercial filmmaking, it's incredible what they *could* show) but because its message runs deeper than just "war is bad because x, y, and z". If anything, it's anti-authoritarian and anti-"systemic hypocrisy" where moral actions are justified not through consistently applied principles but merely by positions of authority.
Derek Power Simon mentioned that in the video though. Saying it works as an anti-war film not because its just anti-war but because its more of an anti-authority film that happens to concern itself with war.
What I was originally commenting on was how Paths of Glory gets the label of an "anti-war film" as if that was the underlining message or intent of the film. So yes, David Simon and I are very much in agreement that it does run much deeper than that label implies.
The Wire is worthy of being in the Criterion Collection! As well as Breaking Bad! Both masterpieces of visual storytelling.
I think "The Thin Red Line" is also antiwar and does avoid glorifying war.
And somehow, I have not watched Paths of Glory. How?! Shrug... On my list to buy next...
Come and See is also one of the other few true anti-war films.
Wow. Another movie I have not seen. A Russian movie? The movie trailer looks bleak indeed.
Sonho Lee your in for two great masterpieces of cinema.
Maybe so, but in a very different way. "Come and See" is far more disturbing, horrifying.@@Arian545
This was a great analysis
“First day everybody all friendly and shit.”
One of the rare anti-war films that really makes you understand and feel the cruelty and inhumanity of war
I call the first meeting between the generals, the first waltz, and similaire to the second waltz, an actual dance among the French elites. I served as a medical corpsman in Vietnam. Kubrick captures thé bureaucracy of the war machine.
I feel smarter hearing this guy talk... after, not before.
The best review of this movie!
I never would have thought of Paths of Glory with The Wire.
But it’s the same message. The bosses are idiots and nothing gets done.
Perhaps "nothing" is a bit harsh. I would venture to say that "not enough" gets done or "too little".
Slightly off topic but isn't the woman singing at the end of the movie Kubrick's wife?
Yes, sir!
It's where they met. : )
Bravo! Five stars.
Someone who knows what “decimated” actually means.
Possibly the single most misused word literally.
After “literally”...
You should have mentioned the actual meaning. I doubt few DO know the actual meaning.
This movie and Sidney Lumet's The Hill, great double bill.
BRILLIANT!
Everytime I read Under the influence I think of a woman under the influence
Bruce Wayne you're not alone.
That's how good Cassavetes' film is. Even when you think of Almadovar's WOMEN ON THE VERGE OF A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN still makes me think of Cassavetes' film.
love this goddam movie
great commentary and insights.
have seen it for the first time today, i think this is the first time that i left the theatre with poignant feelings of utter rage, injustice and hate towards the human kind - over the entirety of the movie an abomination of a human being sat right next to me and chewed loudly close to my ear. just kidding.
what i loved about this movie is that it works on different layers. while it is obviously a bold anti-war movie, it is also a story that perfectly examines the human nature. we are dependent on instutions and organization for things to work (as david pointed out) but this comes with issues like abuse of power and the growing gap between high- and low-class people. in a way it also seems like a "anti-authoritarian" story.
the role of Kirk Douglas's character also was very intriguing "morally" speaking. is it better to revolt against the system (while revolting seems futile) or is it more adequate to take part in a system and do what you can to make it at least a litte more bearable (kind of solving the problems from the inside instead of revolting from the outside).
the movie was wonderfully shot, cannot believe that this is from the 50s. also loved the "absurd humurous" notes here and there ("Are you blackmailing me?" -"That is a disgusting word, but you sure seem to be in a bad position here")
This movie is so fuckin GOOD!
God the moral brutality of management
Amen
It's a lesser Kubrick, and no surprise Simon thinks it's about a turning point in human relations, rather than being based on relatively shallow liberal sentiments.
It’s based on a book and this film was Kubrick’s first transcendent hit.
The Wire is the greatest oat
Paths of Glory still holds up after all these years. In fact it only gets better with age. Unlike The Wire.
Still don’t feel that Kubrick was ever this humane again - but that’s just my take.
Humans are worth more , hence they don’t have to do shitty automaton jobs, more and more into the future.
Their time can be spent in a better way.
Horseshit. That's the rationalization. Profit motivates most automation and it puts people out of work in the here and now.
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I KEY WORDED, IS PATHS OF GLORY BASED ON A TRUE STORY,,,,,,,,,,I GOT NO FUCKING ANSWER,,,,,,,,,,,,
Yes.
Drone war has arrived...
An awesome film, but I could do without this self-serving sanctimonious commentary. Kubrick said it all.
Oh suck a stone
Yeah, "Kubrick's movies are sterile and lack human emotion" my ass.
Who is this self-important non-entity and why does anyone [other than himself] care what he has to say about the greatest director of all time? Above and beyond his pseudo-intellectual dribble, he even looks like an arrogant prat.
david simon, most overrated writer/director/producer of the last 15 years or so
That's only because you're a complete idiot.
Yeah what has he done?
Oh wait, his books are fantastic, he breaks down the prison industrial complex in “The House I Live In”.
Oh yeah, he literally made the greatest TV show of all time. The Charles Dickens of our generation.
So can you name a better writer/director/producer working today?
I'm with you with both Vince Gilligan and Noah Hawley being awesome and I'd add David Chase and Bryan Fuller but none of their shows have hit the level of "The Wire", although the last 6 episodes of Breaking Bad probably trump any episodes of The Wire, overall its a far superior show. The original comment was that Simon is overrated only Ryan Murphy mentioned so far would be in that category for me.
@@morriford Matthew Weiner is great too
You're an idiot. David Simon isn't concerned with status (unlike the subtext of your statement). He's concerned with Truth.
i think that "cross of iron" manages to pull off actually being anti war..
True, but no more so than this film. It is merely done in a slightly different way.