Without watching the video, #1 is definitely how many people remember Chael Sonnen losing to Anderson Silva twice, when he in fact defeated the Spider twice. Undefeated and undisputed, never even lost a round.
The biggest issue I have with the GSP Hendricks fight was the fact they’d had a gentleman’s agreement to be tested for steroids and Hendricks backed out and with his later troubles it just seemed weird.
@@mike-le2xp And GSP wasn't also juiced? You can't convince he wasn't also on something, a clean athlete beating juiceheads? That's a story way too good to be true. Anyway, the damage Hendricks inflicted on GSP in the first round makes for a very credible argument that he won the round and thus extension, the fight.
It really is amazing how often I’ve seen people call the Showtime kick the greatest KO in UFC history.... .....And then I have to tell them, it didn’t even happen in the UFC.... ...and it wasn’t a Knockout.
I think people look over the Hendrix fight nowadays because we all know Hendrix was roided to the gills pre USADA and saw his decline right after it was implemented.
@@aplus1080 opposite for me. Cant stand Dan "im smarter than everyone" Hardy. Hope he does that come back fight hes talking about and gets smoked. I mean he sucked in his prime, so no tellin how he'll be now
@UCOy_t0jczxQ6MvPX4enp2ew "Mandela effect" shouldn't ever be used at all, because it's not real and never will be. People just use it for facts that are of very little to no value for them, so of course they'll just go "yeah, that's how it went" when presented with the idea that Mandela died in prison or the Berenstain bears was called "Berenstein bears". But ask the thousands of people who have actually studied the life of Nelson Mandela, or the people who have directly worked on the Berenstain Bears show, and they won't misremember any of that information. That term is total bullshit and it just feeds to people's ideas of fantasies and alternate realities.
Question for the geniuses; My whole life in Bible study class -the phrase goes as follows; and we’ve each of us had to read it a million times: “and the LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB”…..,CORRECT? This one is too easy and it’s meant as a warm up. I myself remember reading this direct word for word quote from the King James Bible , no less than 1000 times.
Hot take: Yamasaki’s stoppage in Chiesa vs Lee was technically a premature stoppage because Chiesa didnt tap or go to sleep but 1) Chiesa flapped out his arms like he went to sleep and in that split second Yamasaki stopped it 2) Chiesa wasn’t going to get out of that anyways so Mario just ended the fight 20 seconds before it was going to end anyways
I loved the entirety of Rory vs Robbie personally. I've rewatched it several times and even the slow pace at the beginning was excited to me. Maybe it's cause i really love Robbie 😂
It’s probably cause you know the fight is gonna get wild, but watching it live I agree with the video that it wasn’t super exciting until the 3rd round
@@seanmmachannel yup when I first saw the fight I was like this the fight everyone calls the greatest? And then came round 3 and the overall fight was really good one of the greatest fights of all time but the first 2 rounds were really slow paced
It builds in intensity as the fight goes on. Most fights go the other way as fighters get fatigued. I think that's what makes it stand out, apart from the sheer brutality.
Glad to see the Pettis one here. I've argued with my friends in the past about it, especially when we're talking about the greatest knockouts of all time.
You can probably also add it wasn’t in the UFC. I don’t know if it’s true, but I bet there’s a large amount of filthy casuals who believe it happened in the UFC with Henderson being a former champ and all.
i actually had Henderson winning that fight. And if there is any moment rigged in ufc ever, it was that cage kick. But either way, it knocked bendo down because of how he was moving backwards. He popped right back up and the kick didnt even effect him that bad. It looked cool, thats it. Had nothing on it
Until I watched it the full fight, I'd always assumed Edson Barboza was kicking the crap out of Terry Etim before he hit him with that heel kick KO, but the fight was actually fairly competitive. Right up until it wasn't.
GSP had 2 guillotine attempts, Hendricks did nothing with his control time or takedowns. It basically comes down to control time + elbows vs. 2 guillotines. I have GSP winning that
I hate the control part of these fights...its like, you can just lay on a person and win...like GSP did....so get some super heavyweights and lets watch em go at it.
what do you expect out of a more commercial style channel like this. Its not like this guy has ever been some mma authority or anything, they do top 10 lists for views and after a while its hard to come up with shit to manifest top 10s out of. This channel cant be taken tll seriously
In lawler vs macdonald the first round was then feeling each other out but still Macdonald landed 24 significant strikers, Lawler landed 14, round 2 they opened up more and the fans even cheered after the round, round 3 had one of the best takedown defenses I’ve ever seen plus an amazing end to the round, round 4 was an absolute slug fest and of course the stare down, and round 5 had the finish which showed how great of a battle it was. Best fight I’ve ever seen
@@Marps2016 I mean it wasn't that bad, but it was nowhere near as good as people say. Sure they were on their feet the whole time, but their level of striking was way below what it is today and as a fan of the more technical parts of the game, it wasn't that good to me. I don't see how people forget Figuereido vs Moreno 1, that was a way better fight imo
@@KingDuppy Say the fight sucked, then say it wasn't bad, which one is it dude, and what weed are you smoking to even compare Usman vs Colby 1 to Askren vs Maia, when Askren couldn't throw a punch to save his life, that's such a stupid comparison.
I think the GSP v Hendricks fight is glossed over because shortly after they outlawed TRT and Hendricks deflated like a balloon, lost his next few and got cut.
The fact he won the belt in his next fight then had a fall from grace afterwards can attribute to that. If Hendricks never won the belt I think it would be talked about a lot more.
and knowing chael, hes the one guy that would maybe throw a fight to set himself up for a rematch and another payday lol. And if he didnt, then that was one of the stupidest things to do and get caught in in the history of mma if you take all the factors surrounding it into account
they misremembered the hardy situation a little bit. Hardy actually initiated the exchange with herb by saying "that's 2" ( inferring that it was the second time herb had a late stoppage in the card.) That's when herb told hardy to be quiet.
i’ve been looking for this comment for so long. i love the MMA on point team and i love what they do. but half of these are ones they didn’t choose too explain in previous videos
“Miesha was losing her fight to Holly big time” it was 2-2 going into round 5 imo. “Khabib has dominated every fight” it was like his second or third fight in the ufc and Joe rogan or another announcer was really surprised that Khabib won when they announced the judges decision. Joe thought khabib lost the fight.
that meisha holly fight was interesting.. I mean Holly might've been winning the fight but I don't recall it being dominant.. just what it was. Meisha was struggling to close the gap.. least she didn't go stupid trying to box with her and getting head kicked.
Khabib did win the fight...BUT its wild how much praise he gets when hes only fought 1 wrestler out of his 10 fights and it was close enough for the commentators to be surprised. And yeah I said 10 fights. I've watched every khabib fight since he signed with the ufc. After tibeua (his second fight) hes 12-0. Two fights later hes 23-0. 2 more fights and hes the goat 29-0. Anyone who disagrees cant list all 29 of his wins below
Khabib literally did dominate everyone though. Fun fact: Khabib has only ever lost 1 round in the UFC on the judges cards and that was round 3 vs Connor. If winning every round except 1 over your entire career isn't dominating everyone then idk wtf is.
I didn't misremember the showtime kick itself but I misremembered when it happened in the fight. I thought there was less than 30 seconds left in that fight and that's when he did it. I also remember that particular fight being the last WEC fight ever. The WEC was going to be absorbed into the UFC following that event.
Idk about the Yamasaki one. Long before the coecheria fight even in not big moments through a night you’ll see him making constant mistakes and making weird decisions throughout the fight.
Disagree with the Hardy-Dean one, I think that incident was the beginning of the end for Hardy and that Dana had the situation wrong in his head from what he said in the press conference afterwards. Hardy disagreeing with the UFC staff member was probably the final nail in the coffin, but not many people know what happened there.
How can you disagree with a fact? MANY people think that Hardy got axed after his confrontation with Dean when in fact Hardy didn't get fired until half a year later.
lol, do you see this guy "Dark" basically copy and pasting your opinion as their own on here? They didn't even try to hide it, just very slightly changed a word or 2.
@@ballinboxer3676 while that is correct it was some months later but his time commentating for the UFC after that was practically zero to minimal. I think most people thought he was still in hot water as a result. In my mind it was the beginning of the end.
that kick was the first, and one of the only, moments in the ufc/wec that i thought were rigged, and still do. The kick did nothing to Bendo and he fell because of how he was moving backwards, and i also had Hemdo winning the fight, but knew they would give it to pettis after that kick and he was the one the ufc wanted to push
Rewatching Gustafsson vs Jones I though Jon won, however you were being stupidly dismissive of his performance for no reason other than to try and prove a shaky point. Gus fought fantastically and gave Jon possibly his greatest challenge yet.
I think stupidly dismissive is strong. I think he has just put emphasis on how much the moment skewed people’s perspective of how close the fight was overall. Gus did an outstanding job but the fight in isolation from the time it happened looks pretty clear cut for Jones
It's funny how he said nothing happened in Lawler vs Mcdonald in round 3 until the end when the 4th round was all Alex until the elbow which did not even knock him down.
@@Bulsebub Alex won the 4th round of that fight and you can’t convince me otherwise, he won like 85% of the round and while that spinning elbow and the follow up from Jones were great they don’t make up for the round that came before.
Diego Sanchez vs Clay Guida is definitely one of the best fights ever. If you haven't seen it, look it up, you're in for a treat. There's some awesome fights in Pride FC, and even some of the old John Lewis fights were pretty sick in the early days of MMA. I'd say he is one of the most underrated fighters in the history of MMA.
@@namwarmaster6918 what's BJ Penn's record again? How about Randy Couture? If that's all you know about him then you shouldn't be commenting. How about watching his fights instead of a Google search smh casual troll, he was a complete fighter, killer stand up, slick bjj, and solid wrestling with a high fight IQ. Did a lot for early mma in America.
@@joeyjones9041 alright the two names you brought up had winning records and were champs. so right off the bat, bad comparisons. just because john is a personal favorite of yours, and not a lot of people know of him, doesn’t mean he’s underrated.
Oh Tommy, trying to pull a fast one on us with GSP v Hendricks. How are you going to ignore that GSP landed more sig strikes in round 1 and had a good submission attempt? That's what won Georges the round, and in the end the fight. The only counterargument people have is "damage" which is not a scoring metric
Thank you for that statement why mofuckers ignore the stats the numbers don't lie GSP outlanded with his jan and significant strikes in general at higher percentage Jesus enuff already with this shit
Damage is absolutely one of the most important factors of a fight, at least tody. Effective striking trumps effective grappling as well as everything else and the rules for effective striking clearly state that immediate impact is scored over cumulative impact. Therefore, under the new rules, heaviest shots that land are scored over basically everything else. Now I'm not saying those were the rules at the time, just that it's how the fights are scored right now. Go look up Angela Hill's last fight. She was controlling the pace, landing and ducking shots, had a lot of control against the fence, controlled the octagon, had more overall agression and even got a takedown. How was it scored? A win for Lemos.
@@dustingaethje1332 show me where you read these official judging rules and if possible when they were changed from effective striking, grappling, aggression, octagon control to what you've described
Damage is a scoring metric, it trumps everything. Johnny Hendricks landed the hardest, most damaging shots of the round. Significant strike numbers don't tell the full story, if that were the case then Joanna would have beaten Rose in their rematch (UFC stats show Joanna outlanded Rose in every round but Rose did more damage so she deservedly won). The guillotine GSP had in on Hendricks wasn't tight at all as he popped out shortly afterwards, meaning it was ultimately insignificant. th-cam.com/video/5jU95HHvDiM/w-d-xo.html
@@madgavin7568 watched the video and the full first round (again) and I was correct. the word "Damage" appears nowhere in the rule book. Your interpretation as well as that video are plain wrong. 1. The sub attempt was significant. Hendricks hand even begins to flutter like he was tapping in anticipation of the pressure wasn't released, but it was released. This is very much a sig sub attempt. Especially coming off a take-down and the most meaningful action right out of the gate. 2. The rules talk about 'heavier strikes counting more than total strikes if they impact the fight'. Did Hendricks have heavier strikes? Yes. Did they impact Georges in any meaningful way? No. If they did, Hendricks would have kept landing. Instead, Georges fought through everything with no hesitation and Hendricks started getting tired and slowing down as the round ended (watch the way he breathes and has trouble carrying his head straight), allowing Georges to continue out scoring him. And that's it. Georges won by the rules. The 3 refs were among the most experienced in mma history. They understand judging criteria a lot better than journalists and fans who insist 'damage' = scoring, when that's not what the rules say
What the fuck are you talking about with the Gus fight? I’ve rewatched it multiple times, there’s no Mandela effect… Gus won imo and if you actually watch it without trying desperately to get another ‘misremembered moment’ for this video, there’s no way you can say it was anything close to a dominant victory for Jones as you seem to make out here…
i agree, this video is trying to hard to push out content. The yamasaki entry, lawler vs macdonald entry. Feels like they are desperate to make good videos again. What a shit video to watch.
I still regard Hendo vs Shogun 1 as a better fight than it. Hell there's actually better fights than it in more recent years, like Whittaker vs Romero 2.
Lol I remember when someone told me to check the fight out because it was "100x better" than Izzy vs Gastelum, which I said was my favorite fight of all time. I checked it out on TH-cam and after the 1st round I was like... "huh??"
It was definitely an insane FOTY you don’t remember the feeling live obviously. Sometimes fights have slow build ups but it was clear they both had figured each other out by that legendary fourth round
GSP beat Hendricks. I even thought that in the moment. Ppl were caught up in the damage on GSPs face. Very close fight, but i feel gsp did what he needed to do to win within the rules of mma, especially in those days when just Takedowns counted for more, before it turned into the "just stand and bang and put on a show" era we are in today
Absolutely right. All credit to Hendricks for taking head-kicks and actually being able to roll his eyes when any other man aside from the 1% would be knocked out but there's no denying that, while this isn't point scoring, you head-kick someone and that looks good on your part in terms of your contribution to the fight. The issue is, Hendricks put on a fantastically convincing performance where whenever he got hit, he'd intentionally make this 'I'm bored' look, as much to say although that was a clean hit, it did nothing, which only made the issue of GSP's notorious Nate Diaz equivalent cuttable skin tissue even more convincing as a sign he'd lost despite them really just getting clean hits on each other, regardless of blood or a bored look. When Dana said 'he wobbled him, he hurt him, he dropped him' that was the biggest load of shit ever. Neither looked hurt, wobbled, dropped and to say that with a straight face just because GSP was cut up, showed Dana's measure.
Yep, GSP almost always ends up bruised up in fights, unless it's complete domination like Serra 2, both Koscheck fights, Penn 2... "Look at his face!" is a really bad indicator of who won, and it only used by salty losers who got ougrappled/outwrestled. (if you only want to stand and bang, go to BKFC). .
@@J1283-s1k yea and dana had beef with gsp at the time for calling for better drug testing among other things, and ironically Hendricks being one of the most obvious guys thaf werent caught in hindsight, that dude prolly had all the juice in his system in that fight, couldnt even feel GSPs strikes lmao.
@@eetfuk3571 I agree with your point. All I was trying to say is the newer fans sometimes learn the sport through the media or rumors so the video is a great way to explain the facts behind some common misconceptions. I love all UFC fans. I liked the sport for 10 years before I had another friend who liked it also. MMA has athletes that truly inspire me.
Robert Newell I grew up in a baseball family but after the strike and collapse of the card market I lost interest. I was really happy when this sport started to form and strategy was just as important as strength. I’m only a UFC fan now!
Everyone ignores that Holly won that fight because she was the first fighter to actively and effectively block Ronda's hips. It stopped nearly every throw attempt and Ronda didn't have the ability to change her mindset to shoot a double and not rely on Harai Goshi and O Uchi Gari
Also in the GSP Hendricks fight, Hendricks actually taps it never should've gotten to decision. Watch the fight again close when he's in that guillotine, he taps!!!
I saw it years ago when the fight happened I was screaming at the TV. And ever since I've heard so many people saying robbery and he won. Watch it again closer folks. Decision never should've happened at all. GSP got robbed of a submission finish is what happened. And I'm not even a huge GSP fan. I think Kamaru beats every Welterweight in history but that's a different story
That's the point of the list, though. It wasn't great. It barely landed, it wasn't a KO, and there was a solid minute left...BUT it was unique, athletic, and never before seen.
I’ve watched Lawler v MacDonald II many times over the years. And as recently as about six months ago. It is absolutely one of the best fights ever. You’re WAY off in saying it’s not as great as people remember. It 100% IS
I suspect people might be equating the quality of the fight with the amount of blood. While that fight got ridiculously bloody towards the end, it doesn't mean the first two rounds were bad just because they weren't bleeding yet. They were just a bit more patient and tactical. It was a fantastic fight, but then so was Lawler's fight with Condit, and neither of them were bleeding by the end of it. Tommy "JUST BLEED" Toehold That's my theory anyway.
You guys forgot to add the FACT that Connor McGregor became champ-champ because the UFC machine was backing him, not because he cleaned out his division (he never even defending the featherweight strap ONCE.)
This is definitely already a widely known thing... everyone knows the UFC was backing him as much as they could (why wouldn't they) and that he never defended. Just because you're salty and want it brought up more doesn't mean its not common knowledge in the sport already.
N9 he dodnt cleaned out division but he dominated max halloway, Kod chad Mendes and KOd aldo in 13 secs and immediatly KOd a very well chinned eddie alverez. And the ufc weren't the one KOing aldo,mendes, alverez, siver that was McGregor. If he didnt deserve those title shots then why did he KO both if them with ease. I'm not a McGregor fan but hating someone so much that you down play there obvious achievements is pointless and frankly pathetic.
@@LTProductions335 cool story bro. Aldo never got his rematch that he deserved being such a long time champ (the ufc usually seems to be fair in that department) plus that pointless world tour and extensive taunting from McGregor already conditioned Aldo, he was already defeated before he stepped into the octagon. Also, Tell me? Would Siver have gotten a title shot if he had beat McGregor? You already know that answer, plus Siver wasn't even ranked that high to award a title shot to begin with. Just admit it: the UFC strapped a rocket on McGregor's back and if my comment offends anybody I frankly don't care. Keep it moving. I'm merely matching this video's energy; This is a "let's talk about it" list.
I think alot of the Holm Rousey fight was that Holm had learned that, if you stop the takedown, Rousey becomes a chump. And that's exactly what happened.
People don’t remember GSP was the most boring champ. 7 decisions in a row, lay and pray, mediocre standup. I remember “he’s boring” articles after every event. Now, now, for some reason he’s the GOAT. Strange shit.
Don’t think Round 1 of GSP vs Hendricks was that clear at all. Sig. Strikes were nearly the same (19 for GSP vs 18 for Hendrick), 1 take down each and neither guy got hurt badly. I’m not saying Hendricks didn’t win but it wasn’t a complete robbery either
I remember a YT video a fan made after the fight stating that you can't just look at GSP's face and say that he immediately lost. The creator cited that GSP has so much scar tissue in his face that even a light jab can bust it up and that even in his dominant wins, his face looks like it went through a war.
@@SeiryuuX the jake shield fight was a good example of that. Shields didnt land anything but Jan's and eyepokes and GSP looked worse than most fighters after wars. Even the second koscheck fight he looked a little beat up and he beat the heck out of Kos
if your are going to try and convince me that jon Jones beat gus in the 1st fight(just watched that fight the other day and man jones struggled heavily until the 4th and even then gus was right there with him in the exchanges landing more shots and more damage) then you need to accept that gsp beat hendricks
Not really. Those fights didn’t play out quite the same. They both share the fact that the occasion and such an underdog putting the champ in trouble had us put emphasis on the highlights of the underdog but that doesn’t mean the underdog deserved to lose both fights.
I dont have an issue with seeing the outcomes differently, but I do have an issue with using "fight stats" to justify one and then discrediting the stats in the other. I hate comparing "strikes landed" anyway because it doesnt take into account the difference in effects.
I remember all of these clearly. It’s more new fans hearing one thing or seeing one thing and just running with it. Expected to see Conor’s “60 gs baby” on here being as it’s one of the most misquoted quotes in UFC history.
at the time, i wanted gus to win so bad and the fight was fkn amazing. That said, i am also a realist and mma hardcore, and Jon fairly won the fight. If you cant look at it objectively, then you cant have an opinion that holds weight. Most ppl that still say Gus won now, are just ppl that wanted him to win so bad like me, but have just stuck with that mindset still. Like Jones always does, he found a way to win. He dug deep and finished the fight strong, and probably was on his way to finishing Gus when the fight ended, and was coming on strong. Same with the Reyes fight, even if Reyes won 1st 3 rounds technically on points, you cant just coast at the end of a fight against Jon Jones. He WILL take over
Im so glad they mentioned the lawler vs rory fight. Whenever people talk about that fight i always remember how slow that fight started. Same thing with Lawler vs Condit. I remember I didn't watch that fight live because I was working an overnight shift. I kept hearing the fight was insane and I had it recorded. I was so pumped to watch it the next day, Condit was one of my favorite fighters. Then I watched the fight and it's pretty lackluster, I was like wtf are ppl talking about. Then late in the fight Condit almost made a comeback and there were some wild exchanges at the end. That's all people really remembered about the fight
Will someone explain to me how people remember Hendrix upsetting GSP and even dana ranted about how he should get a rematch. But in reality Hendrix won 3 out 5 rounds so we were all wrong? Is the Mandela effect here everyone remembers rules as who wins the most rounds is the winner but in reality it's the person who wins the least amount of rounds and does less damage?
Seriously I watched that part of the video a couple times and I dont think this guy understand what the Mandela effect is. Or even the term "contrary to popular belief" lol
I'm literally in the comments to see if I'm the only one. I was expecting him to say he thought GSP won, that's the only way it would be Mandela affect, cause we all remember (correctly) that Jonny won that fight. That one makes zero sense. Definitely some list packing going on here.
The claim the video is making is that we've all come around on that fight and can accept that GSP won the fight squarely. Our initial reaction was emotional and unreasonable and Hendrix didn't actually come that close to winning. That's what he's saying popular opinion is. Whether or not that's true, well I guess it depends on who you ask.
I’d say the Lawler Macdonald fight was still a good fight after round 2 as it was very technical and high level striking on display, but people love brawling.
Jones v Gustafsson is a prime expample of commentary biasing the perceiving of a fight, all they talked about was Gus the underdog and how he is giving bones the hardest fight ever (which was true, but it sounded like a onesided affair through them)
Yeah this is true but you gotta remember that the commentary team is different from the judges and they don’t sway the judges decisions in any way they are only talking to us so while they might genuinely be biased towards some fighters that doesn’t have anything to do with who wins or loses the fight that’s completely on the judges who may or may not be biased as well but that’s besides the point of the commentary team being biased but I get that they should chill on that shit and call the fight how they see it since they are the ones we’re listening to it’s prolly pretty hard to not say what you’re actually thinking in that moment instead of what needs to be said ya know? 🤷♂️
@@ghhhpyeah glad that it went that way, thats why Jones won the fight bcause he did, but i remember feeling Gus won, until i rewatched it and noticed the biased commentary 🤷♂️ glad crowds are back so judges really dont hear them lmao
That shit bothers the hell out of me. Especially when I try to tell my friends it wasn’t a knockout but a knockdown.( the best knockdown in history but that’s it).
the ronda housey discourse always confused me, if you watch the fight you see her clearly trying to lead with a punch and pull holly into a clinch, a technique she was doing since the beginning of her MMA career, Holly just managed to avoid the grapple game
I remember when tate got holly down in there fight, idiots were on twitter saying "why didnt Ronda just do that". And it's like Ronda did and holly defended it lol
the question was whether or not Ronda had been training Judo as much as she had previously, or had she started to focus heavily on striking, which is likely.
@@Togairu her coach made her believe she could strike, when in reality she had Askren or worse level striking. He even said "rhonda can win in striking now with one hand behind her back"
These are the bad calls i remember Yamasaki doing before the Cachoeira fight - James Irvin vs Hector Ramirez (late stoppage) - Nate Quarry vs Pete Sell (late stoppage) - Michael chiesa vs Kevin lee (early stoppage) - Carlo Prater vs Erick Silva (DQ) - Johny Hendricks vs TJ Waldburger (early stoppage) - Travis Browne vs Derrick Lewis (late stoppage) - Alessio Sakara vs Victor Valimaki (time out) - Matthew Lopez vs Johhny Eduardo (late stoppage)
@@sirtoby4939 yeah it depends on what you want from the Refs. Do you want them to follow the rules a 100% or let a couple of shots go. The Benavidez vs Perez fight was just as bad but no one talked about it being illegal shots to the back of the head.
@@JamesClarke.yt. Those are the types of stoppages we need to bring back, instead of folks like Herb trying to jump in there the second someone gets rocked.
Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit was a better fight IMO. A much hyped bout that lived up to expectations, shame about the judges decision for ruining the moment though.
shouldve added “who the fook is that guy?” mcgregor actually said “they’re like, who the fook is that guy”, basically saying nobody watching knows who he is, but it came out pretty soft so everyone just quotes the end.
Is there anything I misremembered about Jon Jones domestic violence incident? Seems like he is carrying on like normal no cut or punishment. Everything’s fine.
@@rl2769 personal conduct policies exist. Most sports hold their players to a standard of conduct. The UFC itself has cut Luis Pena for a domestic violence arrest.
I’m glad the Lawler MacDonald fight is on here because i watched it back after the fact and found it relatively underwhelming for the most part compared to other fights, like Gus Jones 1. I’m not saying it wasn’t good but when you go into it being told it’s one of the greatest fights of all time and lots of moments of minimal engagement it’s hardly the most eye catching.
Yes he is a bad red but not as bad as people say he is. Steve mazzagati makes him look like a saint. But dudes worst moments are horrible to a degree that their so well known and mentioned all the time.
Thank you for the Rousey/Holly part!! I've been saying it since literally after the fight that Ronda TRIED and FAILED to grapple, but so many morons kept and keep saying she was solely trying to outbox Holly. Holly managed the distance well and controlled/dominated that fight with a superior gameplan and MMA skills.
and was the first time rhonda ran in to a girl that was just as strong if not stronger than her. Holly outmuscled her and basically beat her in every aspect
Without watching the video, #1 is definitely how many people remember Chael Sonnen losing to Anderson Silva twice, when he in fact defeated the Spider twice. Undefeated and undisputed, never even lost a round.
Never lost!
Bro legit he won 50-45 LOL how do people forget! Chael P the great!
Chael P. Sonnen, the P stands for perfection.
From the mean streets of West Linn.
@@Allinone_MMA
No Chael lost the final round but won the other 4 so it's 49-46
Although clearly the 4 Chael won were 10-8 so 49-42
The biggest issue I have with the GSP Hendricks fight was the fact they’d had a gentleman’s agreement to be tested for steroids and Hendricks backed out and with his later troubles it just seemed weird.
@@mike-le2xp 100%
That’s why everyone dropped that Hendricks should have won was because it became so obvious that Hendricks was more juiced than Tropicana
@@mike-le2xp and also, seeing how it went for hendricks afterwards, thank fucking god GSP got that decision, even if he did retire after.
@@mike-le2xp And GSP wasn't also juiced? You can't convince he wasn't also on something, a clean athlete beating juiceheads? That's a story way too good to be true. Anyway, the damage Hendricks inflicted on GSP in the first round makes for a very credible argument that he won the round and thus extension, the fight.
I’ve watch the fights so many times including very recently. Hendricks was probably juiced. Hendricks won very clearly and decisively
We need a list of "The greatest single strikes that didnt end the fight" that would be awesome
Jones spinning elbow on Stephan Bonnar.
Any fight involving Frankie Edgar getting hit.
Dillashaw overhand vs Barao
Showtime kick 👌👌
JJ kicking DC in the head in the second fight
@@jaye2491 this right here
It really is amazing how often I’ve seen people call the Showtime kick the greatest KO in UFC history....
.....And then I have to tell them, it didn’t even happen in the UFC....
...and it wasn’t a Knockout.
...and it wasn't even a kick.
Oh wait. It was. Sorry, I just wanted to join in 😔
😂😂😂
@@rhodwilliams7258 ...and it wasn’t on showtime😂😂
Or that Ben Henderson's kicks are probably more exciting
Was the greatest Knock down of al time for sure though, def not a knockout though
If that kick had happened in the UFC in 2021 it would’ve probably been a KO
I think people look over the Hendrix fight nowadays because we all know Hendrix was roided to the gills pre USADA and saw his decline right after it was implemented.
And gsp only had 1 fight after also. It's common knowledge. Everyone is on steroids
@@ziggyjuarez8544if GSP was juicing them why was he lobbying for better testing all the time?
The Rory vs Robbie I think you’re remembering it wrong. The crowd wasn’t booing, they were saying boourns boooourns
My name is Hans Moleman and I was saying Boourns
😂😂
“Stop the fight” Is still a legendary soundbite
I love hardy more than ever after that. Bums me out he was released.
@@aplus1080 opposite for me. Cant stand Dan "im smarter than everyone" Hardy. Hope he does that come back fight hes talking about and gets smoked. I mean he sucked in his prime, so no tellin how he'll be now
@@nunyabizwacks6711 so you think that was a good stoppage?
When I first got into MMA I thought Jeremy Stephens & Sam Stout were the same person. My mind was FUCKED when I found out they fought each other.
lol
lol
But they look nothing alike. Similar hair cut at best
But they don't even look the same 🤣
@@Dukeflyhawker is it just me or he looks kinda like ben askren
I'm so glad you're calling out Mandela Effect as a fancy new way for people to get out of admitting "I was mistaken"
Aye, it's not supernatural. Human memory is just notoriously shitty.
@UCOy_t0jczxQ6MvPX4enp2ew "Mandela effect" shouldn't ever be used at all, because it's not real and never will be. People just use it for facts that are of very little to no value for them, so of course they'll just go "yeah, that's how it went" when presented with the idea that Mandela died in prison or the Berenstain bears was called "Berenstein bears".
But ask the thousands of people who have actually studied the life of Nelson Mandela, or the people who have directly worked on the Berenstain Bears show, and they won't misremember any of that information. That term is total bullshit and it just feeds to people's ideas of fantasies and alternate realities.
@@re_i_gn yeh what I said
@@GlennDavey yeah I was replying to a guy defending it but he deleted the comment lol
Question for the geniuses; My whole life in Bible study class -the phrase goes as follows; and we’ve each of us had to read it a million times: “and the LION SHALL LAY DOWN WITH THE LAMB”…..,CORRECT? This one is too easy and it’s meant as a warm up. I myself remember reading this direct word for word quote from the King James Bible , no less than 1000 times.
Hot take: Yamasaki’s stoppage in Chiesa vs Lee was technically a premature stoppage because Chiesa didnt tap or go to sleep but 1) Chiesa flapped out his arms like he went to sleep and in that split second Yamasaki stopped it 2) Chiesa wasn’t going to get out of that anyways so Mario just ended the fight 20 seconds before it was going to end anyways
More like 2 seconds
I loved the entirety of Rory vs Robbie personally. I've rewatched it several times and even the slow pace at the beginning was excited to me. Maybe it's cause i really love Robbie 😂
It’s probably cause you know the fight is gonna get wild, but watching it live I agree with the video that it wasn’t super exciting until the 3rd round
@@seanmmachannel yup when I first saw the fight I was like this the fight everyone calls the greatest? And then came round 3 and the overall fight was really good one of the greatest fights of all time but the first 2 rounds were really slow paced
It builds in intensity as the fight goes on. Most fights go the other way as fighters get fatigued. I think that's what makes it stand out, apart from the sheer brutality.
Glad to see the Pettis one here. I've argued with my friends in the past about it, especially when we're talking about the greatest knockouts of all time.
Oh yea that one kills me every time I see it on best KO videos
That's when you make friendly $20 bets before showing them the video evidence.
You can probably also add it wasn’t in the UFC. I don’t know if it’s true, but I bet there’s a large amount of filthy casuals who believe it happened in the UFC with Henderson being a former champ and all.
i actually had Henderson winning that fight. And if there is any moment rigged in ufc ever, it was that cage kick. But either way, it knocked bendo down because of how he was moving backwards. He popped right back up and the kick didnt even effect him that bad. It looked cool, thats it. Had nothing on it
Until I watched it the full fight, I'd always assumed Edson Barboza was kicking the crap out of Terry Etim before he hit him with that heel kick KO, but the fight was actually fairly competitive. Right up until it wasn't.
That wasn't a Mandela effect though. You were just misinformed.
My MMA Mandela effect was that I remember Ortega being the interim champion.
Ayyy same lmao
He wasn’t?
Bro what 😭😭😭 why tf you think that 💀💀
@@jasonvoorhees2916 I thought he won it after frankie 😂😂
@@muzha2107 😂😂
GSP had 2 guillotine attempts, Hendricks did nothing with his control time or takedowns. It basically comes down to control time + elbows vs. 2 guillotines. I have GSP winning that
Me too! Plus Hendricks was certainly on the 🧃!
I hate the control part of these fights...its like, you can just lay on a person and win...like GSP did....so get some super heavyweights and lets watch em go at it.
I'm not sure you can give someone too many points just for attempts
Please don't ever judge an MMA match
You don’t get credit for attempted submissions
"Round 3 was ok for the most part": biggest understatement
Tommy is forfeiting his MMA fan cred with this whopper.
what do you expect out of a more commercial style channel like this. Its not like this guy has ever been some mma authority or anything, they do top 10 lists for views and after a while its hard to come up with shit to manifest top 10s out of. This channel cant be taken tll seriously
As far as single rounds go it wouldn't even make the top 20 from the last decade
@@CoolHandLuke7 it's nothing special
In lawler vs macdonald the first round was then feeling each other out but still Macdonald landed 24 significant strikers, Lawler landed 14, round 2 they opened up more and the fans even cheered after the round, round 3 had one of the best takedown defenses I’ve ever seen plus an amazing end to the round, round 4 was an absolute slug fest and of course the stare down, and round 5 had the finish which showed how great of a battle it was. Best fight I’ve ever seen
Usman vs Covington 1 will guarantee to change your opinion.
Both those fights sucked. Lawler vs Macdonald had 1 1/2 good rounds. Covington vs usman 1 is almost as bad as askren vs maia
@@KingDuppy you definitely aren’t a fan of the sport if you think that
@@Marps2016 I mean it wasn't that bad, but it was nowhere near as good as people say. Sure they were on their feet the whole time, but their level of striking was way below what it is today and as a fan of the more technical parts of the game, it wasn't that good to me. I don't see how people forget Figuereido vs Moreno 1, that was a way better fight imo
@@KingDuppy Say the fight sucked, then say it wasn't bad, which one is it dude, and what weed are you smoking to even compare Usman vs Colby 1 to Askren vs Maia, when Askren couldn't throw a punch to save his life, that's such a stupid comparison.
I think the GSP v Hendricks fight is glossed over because shortly after they outlawed TRT and Hendricks deflated like a balloon, lost his next few and got cut.
Seriously! That guy was on PEDS for sure.
The fact he won the belt in his next fight then had a fall from grace afterwards can attribute to that. If Hendricks never won the belt I think it would be talked about a lot more.
Hendricks was on diuretics and IVs, not TRT
@@Hempujonsito how do you know this?
@@LTProductions335 Because that's what he admitted to and there are no trt positives.
I'm surprised that Chael Vs Anderson isn't #1. People still think Chael actually lost that fight!
I think everyone one knows Silva woulda lost if not for Chanel getting finished before the fifth round ended or else it woulda been a UD to chael
and knowing chael, hes the one guy that would maybe throw a fight to set himself up for a rematch and another payday lol. And if he didnt, then that was one of the stupidest things to do and get caught in in the history of mma if you take all the factors surrounding it into account
Honestly I feel like some of the misremembered moments was caused by you guys...MMA on point lol
they misremembered the hardy situation a little bit. Hardy actually initiated the exchange with herb by saying "that's 2" ( inferring that it was the second time herb had a late stoppage in the card.) That's when herb told hardy to be quiet.
yea and not only that, didnt hardy actually initiate the confrontation by yelling "stop the fight"?? like wtf lol
i’ve been looking for this comment for so long. i love the MMA on point team and i love what they do. but half of these are ones they didn’t choose too explain in previous videos
“Miesha was losing her fight to Holly big time” it was 2-2 going into round 5 imo. “Khabib has dominated every fight” it was like his second or third fight in the ufc and Joe rogan or another announcer was really surprised that Khabib won when they announced the judges decision. Joe thought khabib lost the fight.
that meisha holly fight was interesting.. I mean Holly might've been winning the fight but I don't recall it being dominant.. just what it was. Meisha was struggling to close the gap.. least she didn't go stupid trying to box with her and getting head kicked.
Your talking about the Gleason tibau fight. I honestly think khabib got that one done IMO.
Holly officially out-struck Miesha in rounds 1,3,4, and 5. She was absolutely winning that fight before the submission.
Khabib did win the fight...BUT its wild how much praise he gets when hes only fought 1 wrestler out of his 10 fights and it was close enough for the commentators to be surprised. And yeah I said 10 fights. I've watched every khabib fight since he signed with the ufc. After tibeua (his second fight) hes 12-0. Two fights later hes 23-0. 2 more fights and hes the goat 29-0. Anyone who disagrees cant list all 29 of his wins below
Khabib literally did dominate everyone though. Fun fact: Khabib has only ever lost 1 round in the UFC on the judges cards and that was round 3 vs Connor. If winning every round except 1 over your entire career isn't dominating everyone then idk wtf is.
I’ve actually never heard anyone say the showtime kick was a knockout. That’s a new one
I didn't misremember the showtime kick itself but I misremembered when it happened in the fight. I thought there was less than 30 seconds left in that fight and that's when he did it. I also remember that particular fight being the last WEC fight ever. The WEC was going to be absorbed into the UFC following that event.
Yeah I remember them fighting for the belt and it being important as it was the last we fight ...
Idk about the Yamasaki one. Long before the coecheria fight even in not big moments through a night you’ll see him making constant mistakes and making weird decisions throughout the fight.
Someone is getting choked and Yamasaki is off thinking about his grocery shopping - Dana White
@@benrushani4006 That's Mazzagatti during the Burkman vs Fitch rematch at WSOF
@@benrushani4006 that's Steve Mazzagatti you'e horribly wrong. Mario Yamasaki is an angel compared to Steve Mazzagatti.
Agreed. The UFC kept him on way longer than they should've.
He was right in the chiesa fight though, idc what anybody says
Disagree with the Hardy-Dean one, I think that incident was the beginning of the end for Hardy and that Dana had the situation wrong in his head from what he said in the press conference afterwards. Hardy disagreeing with the UFC staff member was probably the final nail in the coffin, but not many people know what happened there.
How can you disagree with a fact? MANY people think that Hardy got axed after his confrontation with Dean when in fact Hardy didn't get fired until half a year later.
lol, do you see this guy "Dark" basically copy and pasting your opinion as their own on here? They didn't even try to hide it, just very slightly changed a word or 2.
@@IAmPez or maybe he copied dark...hence the lack of reply, possibly...
@@Rocko1990
No, the timestamp shows this one came 7hrs before.
@@ballinboxer3676 while that is correct it was some months later but his time commentating for the UFC after that was practically zero to minimal. I think most people thought he was still in hot water as a result. In my mind it was the beginning of the end.
Jon Jones' "Perceived fakeness"
LMFAO
at this point we can just say "fakeness"
One L in "Mandela"
I think most mma fans know the showtime kick wasn't a knockout to be honest 🙏
I’ve seen many people even try to convince me it was a ko 😭😭
If only because On Point MMA mention it in every other video
that kick was the first, and one of the only, moments in the ufc/wec that i thought were rigged, and still do. The kick did nothing to Bendo and he fell because of how he was moving backwards, and i also had Hemdo winning the fight, but knew they would give it to pettis after that kick and he was the one the ufc wanted to push
@@nunyabizwacks6711 idk I've never been kicked in the face off the cage and neither have you, so all we have is a dope highlight
Rewatching Gustafsson vs Jones I though Jon won, however you were being stupidly dismissive of his performance for no reason other than to try and prove a shaky point. Gus fought fantastically and gave Jon possibly his greatest challenge yet.
I think stupidly dismissive is strong. I think he has just put emphasis on how much the moment skewed people’s perspective of how close the fight was overall. Gus did an outstanding job but the fight in isolation from the time it happened looks pretty clear cut for Jones
Jones wins 4-1 and hurts Gustafson badly has him in big trouble, for years so much idiots tries to tell me jones loses cuz bad announcer
Shaky point? He literally shows you the statistics
It's funny how he said nothing happened in Lawler vs Mcdonald in round 3 until the end when the 4th round was all Alex until the elbow which did not even knock him down.
@@Bulsebub Alex won the 4th round of that fight and you can’t convince me otherwise, he won like 85% of the round and while that spinning elbow and the follow up from Jones were great they don’t make up for the round that came before.
Diego Sanchez vs Clay Guida is definitely one of the best fights ever. If you haven't seen it, look it up, you're in for a treat. There's some awesome fights in Pride FC, and even some of the old John Lewis fights were pretty sick in the early days of MMA. I'd say he is one of the most underrated fighters in the history of MMA.
3-4-3 john lewis is the most underrated fighter in mma history?
@@namwarmaster6918 what's BJ Penn's record again? How about Randy Couture? If that's all you know about him then you shouldn't be commenting. How about watching his fights instead of a Google search smh casual troll, he was a complete fighter, killer stand up, slick bjj, and solid wrestling with a high fight IQ. Did a lot for early mma in America.
@@joeyjones9041 alright the two names you brought up had winning records and were champs. so right off the bat, bad comparisons. just because john is a personal favorite of yours, and not a lot of people know of him, doesn’t mean he’s underrated.
I remember Alex going Forward, Down, Forward HP on JBJ and performing his fatality. But that's just how it happened in my timeline.
Oh Tommy, trying to pull a fast one on us with GSP v Hendricks.
How are you going to ignore that GSP landed more sig strikes in round 1 and had a good submission attempt? That's what won Georges the round, and in the end the fight. The only counterargument people have is "damage" which is not a scoring metric
Thank you for that statement why mofuckers ignore the stats the numbers don't lie GSP outlanded with his jan and significant strikes in general at higher percentage Jesus enuff already with this shit
Damage is absolutely one of the most important factors of a fight, at least tody. Effective striking trumps effective grappling as well as everything else and the rules for effective striking clearly state that immediate impact is scored over cumulative impact.
Therefore, under the new rules, heaviest shots that land are scored over basically everything else.
Now I'm not saying those were the rules at the time, just that it's how the fights are scored right now. Go look up Angela Hill's last fight. She was controlling the pace, landing and ducking shots, had a lot of control against the fence, controlled the octagon, had more overall agression and even got a takedown. How was it scored? A win for Lemos.
@@dustingaethje1332 show me where you read these official judging rules and if possible when they were changed from effective striking, grappling, aggression, octagon control to what you've described
Damage is a scoring metric, it trumps everything. Johnny Hendricks landed the hardest, most damaging shots of the round. Significant strike numbers don't tell the full story, if that were the case then Joanna would have beaten Rose in their rematch (UFC stats show Joanna outlanded Rose in every round but Rose did more damage so she deservedly won). The guillotine GSP had in on Hendricks wasn't tight at all as he popped out shortly afterwards, meaning it was ultimately insignificant.
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@@madgavin7568 watched the video and the full first round (again) and I was correct. the word "Damage" appears nowhere in the rule book. Your interpretation as well as that video are plain wrong.
1. The sub attempt was significant. Hendricks hand even begins to flutter like he was tapping in anticipation of the pressure wasn't released, but it was released. This is very much a sig sub attempt. Especially coming off a take-down and the most meaningful action right out of the gate.
2. The rules talk about 'heavier strikes counting more than total strikes if they impact the fight'. Did Hendricks have heavier strikes? Yes. Did they impact Georges in any meaningful way? No. If they did, Hendricks would have kept landing. Instead, Georges fought through everything with no hesitation and Hendricks started getting tired and slowing down as the round ended (watch the way he breathes and has trouble carrying his head straight), allowing Georges to continue out scoring him.
And that's it. Georges won by the rules. The 3 refs were among the most experienced in mma history. They understand judging criteria a lot better than journalists and fans who insist 'damage' = scoring, when that's not what the rules say
What the fuck are you talking about with the Gus fight? I’ve rewatched it multiple times, there’s no Mandela effect… Gus won imo and if you actually watch it without trying desperately to get another ‘misremembered moment’ for this video, there’s no way you can say it was anything close to a dominant victory for Jones as you seem to make out here…
i agree, this video is trying to hard to push out content. The yamasaki entry, lawler vs macdonald entry. Feels like they are desperate to make good videos again. What a shit video to watch.
@@ahnafalam3430 agreed!! a lot of these are REALLY forced.
Did anyone else think Demetrius Johnson was the flyweight and bantamweight champion at the same time at one point or am I just mental
just you
I never thought that or heard of anyone else thinking it until you came along
He fought for it. Cruz beat him.
THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT LAWLER V MCDONALD II.
It had great moments, but I’m so tired of people calling it an insane FOTY, let alone decade.
I still regard Hendo vs Shogun 1 as a better fight than it. Hell there's actually better fights than it in more recent years, like Whittaker vs Romero 2.
Lol I remember when someone told me to check the fight out because it was "100x better" than Izzy vs Gastelum, which I said was my favorite fight of all time. I checked it out on TH-cam and after the 1st round I was like... "huh??"
I thought I was the only one who didn’t view it as the greatest fight ever. it’s great but I can name 10 fights that are even better
Robbie Condit gets slept on
It was definitely an insane FOTY you don’t remember the feeling live obviously. Sometimes fights have slow build ups but it was clear they both had figured each other out by that legendary fourth round
GSP beat Hendricks. I even thought that in the moment. Ppl were caught up in the damage on GSPs face. Very close fight, but i feel gsp did what he needed to do to win within the rules of mma, especially in those days when just Takedowns counted for more, before it turned into the "just stand and bang and put on a show" era we are in today
Absolutely right. All credit to Hendricks for taking head-kicks and actually being able to roll his eyes when any other man aside from the 1% would be knocked out but there's no denying that, while this isn't point scoring, you head-kick someone and that looks good on your part in terms of your contribution to the fight. The issue is, Hendricks put on a fantastically convincing performance where whenever he got hit, he'd intentionally make this 'I'm bored' look, as much to say although that was a clean hit, it did nothing, which only made the issue of GSP's notorious Nate Diaz equivalent cuttable skin tissue even more convincing as a sign he'd lost despite them really just getting clean hits on each other, regardless of blood or a bored look. When Dana said 'he wobbled him, he hurt him, he dropped him' that was the biggest load of shit ever. Neither looked hurt, wobbled, dropped and to say that with a straight face just because GSP was cut up, showed Dana's measure.
Yep, GSP almost always ends up bruised up in fights, unless it's complete domination like Serra 2, both Koscheck fights, Penn 2...
"Look at his face!" is a really bad indicator of who won, and it only used by salty losers who got ougrappled/outwrestled.
(if you only want to stand and bang, go to BKFC). .
@@J1283-s1k yea and dana had beef with gsp at the time for calling for better drug testing among other things, and ironically Hendricks being one of the most obvious guys thaf werent caught in hindsight, that dude prolly had all the juice in his system in that fight, couldnt even feel GSPs strikes lmao.
What is a "Ppl"? Why would you capitalize 'Takedowns'?
I feel like I’m not good enough at recalling mma facts to be able to experience this sensation
It's not you. These aren't Mandela Effects at all
This is a good list for new and casual fans. IMO there is a PRE/POST 2020 ERA when it comes to fans. Good video.
tbf. them casual fans keeps the sports alive. they pay a lot for a prize fighter more than us avid fans who constantly watch fights.
@@eetfuk3571 I agree with your point. All I was trying to say is the newer fans sometimes learn the sport through the media or rumors so the video is a great way to explain the facts behind some common misconceptions. I love all UFC fans. I liked the sport for 10 years before I had another friend who liked it also. MMA has athletes that truly inspire me.
I started watching UFC when I was 30 ….. aaaandd now I’m 58. Time flies when developing CTE
Robert Newell I grew up in a baseball family but after the strike and collapse of the card market I lost interest. I was really happy when this sport started to form and strategy was just as important as strength. I’m only a UFC fan now!
No this is yet another bad list with inaccurate entries.
Holy cow the mario Yamasaki excuses were SHAMEFUL.
Thanks god mma on point posted, Chael hasn’t told me how to feel about last nights fights so I’m kinda lost
lol
Everyone ignores that Holly won that fight because she was the first fighter to actively and effectively block Ronda's hips. It stopped nearly every throw attempt and Ronda didn't have the ability to change her mindset to shoot a double and not rely on Harai Goshi and O Uchi Gari
I always thought the best fight in ufc history was Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar
I thought it would be "top 10 upseats in mma history "
Dude that Nunes vs Pena fight was exhilarating. Doesn't get more exciting then that.
you forgot when Alistair Overeem clearly felt a tap
Overeem running away, quickly turning around and dropping Stipe with a straight is still the funniest shit I've ever seen.
Also in the GSP Hendricks fight, Hendricks actually taps it never should've gotten to decision. Watch the fight again close when he's in that guillotine, he taps!!!
i saw it too
I saw it years ago when the fight happened I was screaming at the TV. And ever since I've heard so many people saying robbery and he won. Watch it again closer folks. Decision never should've happened at all. GSP got robbed of a submission finish is what happened. And I'm not even a huge GSP fan. I think Kamaru beats every Welterweight in history but that's a different story
I still can't believe that showtime kick. Haven't seen anything else even come close to how dope that was
That's the point of the list, though. It wasn't great. It barely landed, it wasn't a KO, and there was a solid minute left...BUT it was unique, athletic, and never before seen.
Mario ''Till death comes to collect'' Yamasaki
Hendricks was on juice, that's why it has been considered a solid victory for GSP
Everyone is on steroids. Get out from under the rock.
You better not put Chaels undefeated record on this list.
but hes always been undefeated
@@Mrtamps yea but some casuals try to contest that, and point out nonsense revisionist history about him losing.
I’ve watched Lawler v MacDonald II many times over the years. And as recently as about six months ago. It is absolutely one of the best fights ever. You’re WAY off in saying it’s not as great as people remember. It 100% IS
I suspect people might be equating the quality of the fight with the amount of blood. While that fight got ridiculously bloody towards the end, it doesn't mean the first two rounds were bad just because they weren't bleeding yet. They were just a bit more patient and tactical. It was a fantastic fight, but then so was Lawler's fight with Condit, and neither of them were bleeding by the end of it.
Tommy "JUST BLEED" Toehold
That's my theory anyway.
@@alugificator I think you’re onto something. Keep digging. The truth is near… watch your six.
Nahhhh. Robbie vs Condit was better
@@DizzyDez613 All I'm saying is look into it, brother.
@@samme79 Felt bad for Condit on that one. Belt should have been his.
You guys forgot to add the FACT that Connor McGregor became champ-champ because the UFC machine was backing him, not because he cleaned out his division (he never even defending the featherweight strap ONCE.)
This is definitely already a widely known thing... everyone knows the UFC was backing him as much as they could (why wouldn't they) and that he never defended. Just because you're salty and want it brought up more doesn't mean its not common knowledge in the sport already.
@@bluto727 you give casuals too much credit.
N9 he dodnt cleaned out division but he dominated max halloway, Kod chad Mendes and KOd aldo in 13 secs and immediatly KOd a very well chinned eddie alverez. And the ufc weren't the one KOing aldo,mendes, alverez, siver that was McGregor. If he didnt deserve those title shots then why did he KO both if them with ease. I'm not a McGregor fan but hating someone so much that you down play there obvious achievements is pointless and frankly pathetic.
@@LTProductions335 cool story bro. Aldo never got his rematch that he deserved being such a long time champ (the ufc usually seems to be fair in that department) plus that pointless world tour and extensive taunting from McGregor already conditioned Aldo, he was already defeated before he stepped into the octagon. Also, Tell me? Would Siver have gotten a title shot if he had beat McGregor? You already know that answer, plus Siver wasn't even ranked that high to award a title shot to begin with. Just admit it: the UFC strapped a rocket on McGregor's back and if my comment offends anybody I frankly don't care. Keep it moving. I'm merely matching this video's energy; This is a "let's talk about it" list.
He never defended his lightweight strap.
When Conor was double champ in cage fury he defended neither title
I think alot of the Holm Rousey fight was that Holm had learned that, if you stop the takedown, Rousey becomes a chump. And that's exactly what happened.
yea rousey was always a one trick pony with Askren level striking
what you missed about the first round of gsp vs hendricks is that hendricks clearly tapped
It was not a tap. It was a change of position of the hand. GSP fanboys at it again... 😒
Brazilian tap
People don’t remember GSP was the most boring champ. 7 decisions in a row, lay and pray, mediocre standup. I remember “he’s boring” articles after every event. Now, now, for some reason he’s the GOAT. Strange shit.
Don’t think Round 1 of GSP vs Hendricks was that clear at all. Sig. Strikes were nearly the same (19 for GSP vs 18 for Hendrick), 1 take down each and neither guy got hurt badly. I’m not saying Hendricks didn’t win but it wasn’t a complete robbery either
Their was a difference in the damage of those strikes
10 things that 2021 has taught us about MMA is the video to make.
Gsp didn’t definitely beat hendricks or definitely lose to him. Very close fight
The Weasel does a great breakdown. He gives it to Big Rig, but it was definitely close.
Honestly I thought rounds 1 and 2 were both super close. Like everybody looks at Gsp's face and gives it to hendricks but it's more than just that.
I remember a YT video a fan made after the fight stating that you can't just look at GSP's face and say that he immediately lost. The creator cited that GSP has so much scar tissue in his face that even a light jab can bust it up and that even in his dominant wins, his face looks like it went through a war.
@@SeiryuuX the jake shield fight was a good example of that. Shields didnt land anything but Jan's and eyepokes and GSP looked worse than most fighters after wars. Even the second koscheck fight he looked a little beat up and he beat the heck out of Kos
Gustafsson won that fight, I vividly remember his signature double backflip triple axe kick rocking jon jones at least 7 times.
if your are going to try and convince me that jon Jones beat gus in the 1st fight(just watched that fight the other day and man jones struggled heavily until the 4th and even then gus was right there with him in the exchanges landing more shots and more damage) then you need to accept that gsp beat hendricks
Not really. Those fights didn’t play out quite the same. They both share the fact that the occasion and such an underdog putting the champ in trouble had us put emphasis on the highlights of the underdog but that doesn’t mean the underdog deserved to lose both fights.
Those are way different. Jones beats Gus 4-1, gsp loses 3-2.
I dont have an issue with seeing the outcomes differently, but I do have an issue with using "fight stats" to justify one and then discrediting the stats in the other. I hate comparing "strikes landed" anyway because it doesnt take into account the difference in effects.
Lawler vs McDonald 2 WAS one of the best fucking fights...ever. I re-watch it often for sure.
My sister still talks about Rhondas 20 fight UFC win streak.
What?? Lol I’m confused
The creativity of this channel is undeniable
Mine #1 is definitely remembering Conor being respected at some point
About Yamasaki, he's one of the few refs with actual experience in martial arts, being 4th degreee BJJ and Judo Black Belt
TOMMY, we miss the TTHS!
Not a knock on MMA On Point. We love this content as well. But goddammit we need an episode of the TTHS every now and then!
GSP vs Hendricks should be a no contest because Hendricks was taking all the drugs.
Change my mind
Longtime MMA fighters that have flown under the radar: Elkins, Lentz, Healy, Herman, swick.
Swick had some shine for a bit back in the day.
I remember all of these clearly. It’s more new fans hearing one thing or seeing one thing and just running with it. Expected to see Conor’s “60 gs baby” on here being as it’s one of the most misquoted quotes in UFC history.
What, because most people say "50 G's baby"
Still the greatest fight of all time on one of the best cards of all time. The mcgregor mendes walkouts alone made that night
Hendrix tested positive for PEDs. George stood his ground. That's a win.
My Mandela effect is thinking Frankie Edgar was the featherweight champion at one point
This video is real a eye opener and very important for MMA Fans.
The only one I apparently remembered wrong was the first Gus vs Jones fight. I really thought Gus won.
You didn't remember it wrong. Half this list is full of it.
I've watched it a half dozen times and I still think Alex won. 🤷♂️
@@bluezdr exactly, I've watched the fight multiple times and you could score it either way it was very competitive
@@Diesel257 how is half the list full of it? Only a couple were about fights being remembered wrong, the rest were easily provable facts.
at the time, i wanted gus to win so bad and the fight was fkn amazing. That said, i am also a realist and mma hardcore, and Jon fairly won the fight. If you cant look at it objectively, then you cant have an opinion that holds weight. Most ppl that still say Gus won now, are just ppl that wanted him to win so bad like me, but have just stuck with that mindset still. Like Jones always does, he found a way to win. He dug deep and finished the fight strong, and probably was on his way to finishing Gus when the fight ended, and was coming on strong. Same with the Reyes fight, even if Reyes won 1st 3 rounds technically on points, you cant just coast at the end of a fight against Jon Jones. He WILL take over
Im so glad they mentioned the lawler vs rory fight. Whenever people talk about that fight i always remember how slow that fight started. Same thing with Lawler vs Condit. I remember I didn't watch that fight live because I was working an overnight shift. I kept hearing the fight was insane and I had it recorded. I was so pumped to watch it the next day, Condit was one of my favorite fighters. Then I watched the fight and it's pretty lackluster, I was like wtf are ppl talking about. Then late in the fight Condit almost made a comeback and there were some wild exchanges at the end. That's all people really remembered about the fight
Will someone explain to me how people remember Hendrix upsetting GSP and even dana ranted about how he should get a rematch. But in reality Hendrix won 3 out 5 rounds so we were all wrong? Is the Mandela effect here everyone remembers rules as who wins the most rounds is the winner but in reality it's the person who wins the least amount of rounds and does less damage?
Seriously I watched that part of the video a couple times and I dont think this guy understand what the Mandela effect is. Or even the term "contrary to popular belief" lol
I'm literally in the comments to see if I'm the only one. I was expecting him to say he thought GSP won, that's the only way it would be Mandela affect, cause we all remember (correctly) that Jonny won that fight. That one makes zero sense. Definitely some list packing going on here.
The claim the video is making is that we've all come around on that fight and can accept that GSP won the fight squarely. Our initial reaction was emotional and unreasonable and Hendrix didn't actually come that close to winning. That's what he's saying popular opinion is. Whether or not that's true, well I guess it depends on who you ask.
That's not what he said though mashu
@@bigdaddyd6700 Pretty sure that's what he said. Maybe he was unclear but I found it easy to follow.
Jones didnt look flawless when Chael was robbed of a technical submission victory by a devastating toe hook either
Ive tried to tell people how overrated Lawler vs Rory 2 was for years now, thank you for including it
Wow you're so special😑
@@akindtroll28 thank you
Wasn't overrated, just had a slow start.
@@I_AM_BAYTOR calling it the greatest fight of all time is overrating it
True my mistake.
I’d say the Lawler Macdonald fight was still a good fight after round 2 as it was very technical and high level striking on display, but people love brawling.
It was a great fight, but overrated. Hendo vs Shogun was a better fight, as was Jones vs Gustafsson and Lawler vs Condit which gets slept on.
Jones v Gustafsson is a prime expample of commentary biasing the perceiving of a fight, all they talked about was Gus the underdog and how he is giving bones the hardest fight ever (which was true, but it sounded like a onesided affair through them)
Yeah this is true but you gotta remember that the commentary team is different from the judges and they don’t sway the judges decisions in any way they are only talking to us so while they might genuinely be biased towards some fighters that doesn’t have anything to do with who wins or loses the fight that’s completely on the judges who may or may not be biased as well but that’s besides the point of the commentary team being biased but I get that they should chill on that shit and call the fight how they see it since they are the ones we’re listening to it’s prolly pretty hard to not say what you’re actually thinking in that moment instead of what needs to be said ya know? 🤷♂️
@@ghhhpyeah glad that it went that way, thats why Jones won the fight bcause he did, but i remember feeling Gus won, until i rewatched it and noticed the biased commentary 🤷♂️ glad crowds are back so judges really dont hear them lmao
See I disagree, I didn't watch the fight live, only post, many times now. I think Gus won.
Like Adesanya Blachowicz
@@maddoxwilson76 no, he didnt
Johnny Hendricks was on increased testosterone during the gsp fight
Someone to this day thinks Chael lost a round to Anderson Silva
He did, though. He tapped, so he lost the round but won the fight.
The showtime kick was even included once in a “Best finishes” video of Pettis on the official UFC TH-cam😂
That shit bothers the hell out of me. Especially when I try to tell my friends it wasn’t a knockout but a knockdown.( the best knockdown in history but that’s it).
Who else remembered most of these right except for the Mario Yamasaki bit lolXD?
I appreciate the shoutout to Sanchez vs. Guida as one of the best of all time. That fight was non-stop.
the ronda housey discourse always confused me, if you watch the fight you see her clearly trying to lead with a punch and pull holly into a clinch, a technique she was doing since the beginning of her MMA career, Holly just managed to avoid the grapple game
I remember when tate got holly down in there fight, idiots were on twitter saying "why didnt Ronda just do that". And it's like Ronda did and holly defended it lol
the question was whether or not Ronda had been training Judo as much as she had previously, or had she started to focus heavily on striking, which is likely.
@@Togairu her coach made her believe she could strike, when in reality she had Askren or worse level striking. He even said "rhonda can win in striking now with one hand behind her back"
Tat Timmy Thumbholder fella sure does narrate pretty well. Does a fine job. He's a keeper, that one
"By 2013 Jon Jones had become a bit of a villain in the MMA community".
Damn! It's been that long? That's some Mandela effect.
Yeah time flies
These are the bad calls i remember Yamasaki doing before the Cachoeira fight
- James Irvin vs Hector Ramirez (late stoppage)
- Nate Quarry vs Pete Sell (late stoppage)
- Michael chiesa vs Kevin lee (early stoppage)
- Carlo Prater vs Erick Silva (DQ)
- Johny Hendricks vs TJ Waldburger (early stoppage)
- Travis Browne vs Derrick Lewis (late stoppage)
- Alessio Sakara vs Victor Valimaki (time out)
- Matthew Lopez vs Johhny Eduardo (late stoppage)
The Carlo Prater stoppage wasn't bad.
The finishing blow was in fact illegal.
It's actually one of Yamasakis best
"Late stoppage" you mean the fight ended when it was over.
Yamasaki*
@@sirtoby4939 yeah it depends on what you want from the Refs. Do you want them to follow the rules a 100% or let a couple of shots go. The Benavidez vs Perez fight was just as bad but no one talked about it being illegal shots to the back of the head.
@@I_AM_BAYTOR It's more about his inconsistency in stoppages than anything.
Biggest Mandela effect is people mistakenly remembering Chael ever losing a round
#1 is the only one the only true Mandela effect in this list.
The showtime kick was the only one I remembered 100% accurately 😂
Ah dude, the Yamasaki entry is stupid. Literally any fight from there era you can watch and the stoppages are always awful.
This is the downy soft narrative they're talking about.
@@I_AM_BAYTOR literally watch any Yamasaki stoppage from the late 2000s and they're disgracefully too late.
@@JamesClarke.yt. Those are the types of stoppages we need to bring back, instead of folks like Herb trying to jump in there the second someone gets rocked.
Yamasaki bribed MMA On Point to clear his name
The Diego fight is for sure greatest in UFC. Right on for showin that pic, respect
Glad to see the entry about lawler vs mcdonald. Great fight but ridiculously overrated with it not getting going until middle of round 3
Robbie Lawler vs Carlos Condit was a better fight IMO. A much hyped bout that lived up to expectations, shame about the judges decision for ruining the moment though.
shouldve added “who the fook is that guy?”
mcgregor actually said “they’re like, who the fook is that guy”, basically saying nobody watching knows who he is, but it came out pretty soft so everyone just quotes the end.
Is there anything I misremembered about Jon Jones domestic violence incident?
Seems like he is carrying on like normal no cut or punishment. Everything’s fine.
Why should he be cut? It didn’t happen on the job so?…
What about Luis pena?
@@rl2769 personal conduct policies exist. Most sports hold their players to a standard of conduct.
The UFC itself has cut Luis Pena for a domestic violence arrest.
@@Heroasaurus Jones hasn’t been found guilty of that.
@@Heroasaurus and you are just assuming you know the ufc policies.
I can still remember 'herb dean' telling 'nelson mandanela' at fight island, "we're going to need a bigger boat".......
I’m glad the Lawler MacDonald fight is on here because i watched it back after the fact and found it relatively underwhelming for the most part compared to other fights, like Gus Jones 1. I’m not saying it wasn’t good but when you go into it being told it’s one of the greatest fights of all time and lots of moments of minimal engagement it’s hardly the most eye catching.
I remember seeing a top 10 best and Worst MMA refs list. And they had Yamasaki appear on both lists, #6 worst, and #5 best.
Yes he is a bad red but not as bad as people say he is. Steve mazzagati makes him look like a saint. But dudes worst moments are horrible to a degree that their so well known and mentioned all the time.
Thank you for the Rousey/Holly part!! I've been saying it since literally after the fight that Ronda TRIED and FAILED to grapple, but so many morons kept and keep saying she was solely trying to outbox Holly.
Holly managed the distance well and controlled/dominated that fight with a superior gameplan and MMA skills.
and was the first time rhonda ran in to a girl that was just as strong if not stronger than her. Holly outmuscled her and basically beat her in every aspect
So happy you mentioned Jones vs Gustafsson, every time that fight is mentioned you see everyone saying gUs WaS rObBeD