Arkansas Football Fans Are Divided ðŸĪŊ QB questions, Program Expectations and more!

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  • @ebonyknight5
    @ebonyknight5 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +10

    My main problem is the silly mistakes and lack of improvement during the season. That's on Sam and BP.

  • @scottvaughn9565
    @scottvaughn9565 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

    If you can't see that Taylen is beyond the athlete of other players you're nutz. Keep building him up. He's beyond good. He's just in his head sometimes. Let that Hawg eat. Tell him to tuck the ball and not let it flail around. Other than that let him play ball... he's good I promise

  • @thomasm2859
    @thomasm2859 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Excellent answer to the last question. Agree 100%

  • @MAP2200
    @MAP2200 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Really good show today, Josh.

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Thanks brother!

  • @carloswoolfolk4229
    @carloswoolfolk4229 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +14

    If singleton was the starting QB I truly believe we win at least 2 more games

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +4

      They just don't want to be wrong for bringing in green and giving him the bag

    • @wpsatx5045
      @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

      Malachi went right down the field vs Tennessee and scored a td
      Green can’t read defenses, eyes down Armstrong and likes to bounce out of the pocket when there is pressure which is a olineman worst nightmare.
      Green stinks.

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @wpsatx5045 don't know why folks can't see all the flaws. Atleast give singleton the chance which they never will and he will now transfer.

    • @wpsatx5045
      @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@luckyrazrbk1 I think they’re prepping for next year.

    • @gainsfitness1844
      @gainsfitness1844 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      ⁠@@wpsatx5045tennessee let him score. Singleton did not look comfortable in the first drives the drive that got them in scoring position is mostly credited to sategna and Russell. I actually like singleton but it’s easy to think that the backup qb is all great and doesn’t have flaws just because the starter does, but like Josh pointed out, we don’t see the mistakes that they make in practice. If I’m not mistaken Singleton threw several picks in the final fall scrimmage, so I think we could have a lot of the same struggles with him that we have w taylen. And Bobby is not a coach that would let the donors dictate if taylen is the starter or not, and I also don’t know that taylen is even making notably more than singleton. It’s not like p5 schools were chopping at the bit to go get him in the portal. There’s a reason he’s the starter and I’d be willing to bet it has nothing to do with nil.

  • @jimmyflyhookem2758
    @jimmyflyhookem2758 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Yea, with Petrino not being the head coach, I can't believe he is the end all be all on who gets the start. As you referenced Saban earlier, in showing EVERY effort and attempt to win. He benched his hiesman QB for a backup.

  • @luckyrazrbk1
    @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +10

    Green is not him, he been doing the same shit his whole career. You act like he is a freshman. Singleton doesnt have the same issues, he actually steps up in the pocket and makes his reads and doesnt over throw constantly. How can anyone talk about potential when he does t get an opportunity. He has looked way better when he was in

    • @wpsatx5045
      @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Boise st looking good without green

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

      @wpsatx5045 even more proof. Pitt loves leaving talent on the bench

    • @wpsatx5045
      @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      @@luckyrazrbk1 I hope SP steps down. Gonna have hip surgery. Step down and let us promote Twill to HC or BP HC and twill associate HC

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @wpsatx5045 I wish but it's doubtful

  • @bigo340
    @bigo340 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    I contend that any talented young athlete, if highly motivated, can be an elite player without anything except being self driven.

  • @wpsatx5045
    @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Some people are lights out during practice and different when the lights come on.
    No one is saying the coaches don’t want to win.
    But it’s year 5 and the line is still struggling and green can’t read defenses. Deer in headlights. Bright lights didn’t matter to Malachi in the vol game.

  • @michaelbajorek1972
    @michaelbajorek1972 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +5

    Attended my first Razorback game in 1965. Been a loyal fan all these years. Attended many games. I like Sam Pittman as a person. I just don't think i can watch another mediocre team. Is Bobby P staying next year or has he received any coaching offers?

  • @wpsatx5045
    @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

    We’re one game away from the end of the season and Green still does the same stuff. Turnover machine and not accurate.

  • @genejumper
    @genejumper āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    i love the Razorbacks, i've always been a big fan, why does it seem like , when the hog's get's 2 or 3 scores ahead they start slowing down, as if they want the other team to play catch, up before you know it, the other team has done took the lead and win's the game,ðŸ˜ĪðŸ˜Đ🙏🙏🏈🏈🏈

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      seems like they decide they want to slow down and eat the clock, but it's not what they are great at. This offense seems much more like a score quick. The longer we hold the ball, the more chance we have to fumble.

  • @VS-rv4tr
    @VS-rv4tr āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Louisiana has about 3 million people, too.

  • @HacktivistMechanic
    @HacktivistMechanic āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Pointless to compare Arkansas HS football and Texas HS football. We should be comparing to Mississippi with similar demographics. Not only do they have 3 D1 schools there but also the jucos and they produce way more talent. I have to think there’s higher participation and more resources. Biggest problem with Arkansas talent is your largest metro area has given up on football for the public schools. LRSD football is terrible outside of Parkview. No resources for football and everyone focused on basketball. Sad really. Hogs are better when there are a dozen or so good players from Central Arkansas.

  • @markcouch5258
    @markcouch5258 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Josh this is going to hell in a hand basket. Because DJ is breaking down film on Green you have all your fans thinking Singleton should be starting. Just look at the comments. DJ is going to start a cult that wants to fire everybody and replace the starting QB. Sometimes he needs to say what needs to be said to these fans.

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      We'll have a chat with him and see what he says. - JT

    • @markcouch5258
      @markcouch5258 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @4th_and_Five it's over now. I really enjoy watching the film breakdown. Keep up the great work. Who knows what will happen in the off-season? I really appreciate all the hard work. Not everybody realizes how little TH-cam videos being in. But glad to see yall starting to get some attention.

  • @TheFlappyPappy
    @TheFlappyPappy āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    I live in htown the high school stadiums are wild

  • @redhawg
    @redhawg āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Are we surprised that Petrino is jumping ship for another job? Won’t even get to see a second year of this offense improving

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      If he does, I'm not surprised. He took a #107th ranked offense and in ONE season, made them a top 10 offense.
      Impact like that is crazy. Makes him a hot commodity. He's only got a couple years left to coach. He's gotta make his $ while he can.

  • @jdhogfan1
    @jdhogfan1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +10

    Also OU benched their million dollar QB 4 games inâ€Ķ. Sam Pittman wouldn’t allow a horrible and limited KJ be sat when he was making 850kâ€Ķ I feel strongly Sam is forcing Taylon to play simply because he’s making 700k â€Ķregardless of how indecisive and frazzled he looks on the field. Sams a crash and burn with the paid player guy.

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      Every year same shit

    • @markcouch5258
      @markcouch5258 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

      Or maybe is BP decision and you don't know what you are talking about except to find a reason to blame Pittman so you can make a point to fire him.

    • @jdhogfan1
      @jdhogfan1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @ na na net boo boo. Stick your head in doo doo

    • @luckyrazrbk1
      @luckyrazrbk1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      @@markcouch5258 depth chart is the head coach bud

    • @markcouch5258
      @markcouch5258 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +4

      ​@luckyrazrbk1 sure it is. Or the head coach let's his coordinators run their show. What makes you think Sam is telling TWill who to play. That's on staff. You just think that because you have an agenda to fire Pittman. Just like you think Singleton is better than Green

  • @Atrox151
    @Atrox151 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    You don't need to have a 60 million dollar stadium to be a good football program.

    • @scottvaughn9565
      @scottvaughn9565 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Def helps attract the elite players

  • @toddedwards1371
    @toddedwards1371 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Yea green is not the one! Bobby got this one wrong! He has not improved at all.

  • @jdhogfan1
    @jdhogfan1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +7

    Bobby P let Broden play all season and be focused while clutch teslaa stays hiddenâ€Ķ. Between that, Braylon Russell playing behind crippled jj and jelly arms dubinion, and mostly taylen just being bad. I question his ability to identify talent if it’s not 100% NIL politics.

    • @stephenregan8384
      @stephenregan8384 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +2

      Great point.

    • @jimmymorara6279
      @jimmymorara6279 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Bobby needs to be Head Coach all he needs is more top notch players he will whip a teams butt.he proved that first time around yes make Petrino Head coach.but I don't think Green is ever going to lead the Hogs to a SECC but alot of that has to do with the O Line.

    • @RazorbackJS
      @RazorbackJS āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      Bobby was excellent at identifying and utilizing talent during his original run with the Hogs, but his underutilization of Teslaa this season is borderline criminal. He has more TDs on three catches (that 70-yard bomb against A&M, two receptions for two scores against LA Tech) than Broden has had all year

    • @jdhogfan1
      @jdhogfan1 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +4

      @ agree 100%. Just wonder if it’s not a taylon thing. He locks into AA and rarely progresses his reads it seems.

    • @RazorbackJS
      @RazorbackJS āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

      @@jdhogfan1 That's true - I remember on several of DJ's film breakdowns he would point out Teslaa running open while Green would force the ball to AA or another receiver in tight coverage

  • @greggentry1344
    @greggentry1344 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Has to be NIL. Previously, any QB made a mistake, missed a route, they went to the sideline for a talking to. No way this is Petrino call to never pull him

  • @laxavierpierre4481
    @laxavierpierre4481 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Missed out on Drake Lindsay.

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      I thought he fit Petrino's offense well. - JT

  • @325dsk
    @325dsk āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    No ifs, ands ,or buts...no excuses...injuries are the exception...other than that i expect 8 wins every season at a minimum

  • @perniciouspete4986
    @perniciouspete4986 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    13:37 Wanting and expecting better performance from individuals and the team isn't expecting perfection. That's an illogical strawman argument, and it sounds as ridiculous as it is.

  • @jamdad48
    @jamdad48 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    I agree with you about Texas high school talent but Mississippi produces more D1 athletes than Arkansas.

  • @lalaland2797
    @lalaland2797 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    When you’re hot, you’re hot, when you’re not, you’re not

  • @wpsatx5045
    @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    I think BP knows he has one more year. That’s why he’s sticking with green ? Green has had the same issues ALL year. No way Malachi is as bad as him. He can’t read defenses period.
    Malachi comes in during the vol game and went right down and scored a TD.
    No one can convince me Green is better than Malachi. I trust BP but dang manâ€Ķ should have benched green during the LA tech game.

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      We have the 10th Ranked Offense in the Country. If we had just 20 more yards per game, we would be Top 5 Offense in the Country.... Just 20 Yards

    • @wpsatx5045
      @wpsatx5045 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @ does stats really matter that much ? How about you dive a lil deeper and see what our O has done vs sec competition. Don’t really count the games where we’re padding stats.
      Green stinks. He’s not a sec qb.

  • @ionicreek355
    @ionicreek355 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Here's a question for you, Do you think Bobby Petrino is maximizing the helmet communication with Taylen. Taylen is obviously not good at reading defenses and setting pass protctions. You have 25 seconds to communicate this to hime before the audio turns off. I think the defense should be read by the coaches in the pressbox and the play called by bobby. Bobby should then go over the reads with Taylen then snap the ball. The defense could change the play but there's probably no better defense to play against than one where half the players are doing one thing and half doing another.

    • @4th_and_Five
      @4th_and_Five  āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      great question!

  • @MeMe-gohogs
    @MeMe-gohogs āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Maybe allow Green to do what he does best rather than trying to make him into something he is not capable of. I don't see much improvement. Go Hogs!

  • @PoohBearDaPlug
    @PoohBearDaPlug āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    No argument is better than tape. We don’t care about what people are doing in practice when our defense knows what’s coming. Look at the game tape. Singleton deserved the starting position after the ole miss game. Singleton had a 44 yard rush against ole miss when green couldn’t do jack. If petrinos offense is so hard , that’s what you and DJ should do, a breakdown as to what exactly is so hard with this offense. I feel like singleton , who is the better QB would work better in this pro offense. There’s not really an argument for green besides “potential” but if we’re going off of potential, how does that apply to singleton? He has zero turnovers with zero reps with the starters. So sad that once again because of this mismanagement we’re gonna lose singleton and Braylon Russell, and I heard the metcalf boys said they either get a nil bad, or they’re out. It just sucks that our head coach blames the fans when 70k fans show up week in and week out just to watch a circus, meanwhile basketball is begging people to show up. We are a FOOTBALL community. We like basketball, but clearly more people care about football. So sad that they have all the keys, except the head coach. PITTaful.

  • @nobuthatsme9201
    @nobuthatsme9201 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +3

    Taynover Green has no fundamental throwing motion or footwork. His release is so slow it’s pathetic. That’s why he always tosses behind a receiver. You folks will be over Taynover by next October.

    • @thagingerninjer5391
      @thagingerninjer5391 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      Takes a big, step no man to attack a kid on the internet. I’m sure you’d keep that same energy, were he in front of you.

    • @nobuthatsme9201
      @nobuthatsme9201 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

      @ first, I’d toss on a WR jersey beforehand so I’d know there would be no way in hell he could hit me.

  • @PVHIII44
    @PVHIII44 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    Talen makes one great play and then 3-4 TERRIBLE plays...Poor play from the QB position has cost us a couple wins and that's just a fact..js

  • @greyguy69
    @greyguy69 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Green does the same thing every game. He looks for armstrong while other recievers are open. The Texas game green had a receiver wide open in the endzone. Green did not even look beyond Armstrong and threw to Armstrong for a short gain. I now understand why two receivers left the team.

    • @swift82-pilot
      @swift82-pilot āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

      I’ve seen Tesla (spelling?) wide open more than any other receiver throughout multiple games and TG never looks his wayâ€Ķsmh

  • @scottteamexpress6005
    @scottteamexpress6005 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™ +1

    I said in in summer and will say it again, we need a NEW QB room. We do NOT have a single QB on the roster that is SEC caliber. Until that is fixed, we are going to stay a mediocre team. We have other problems too, but without a good QB, things going to stay the same.

  • @81451
    @81451 āļŦāļĨāļēāļĒāđ€āļ”āļ·āļ­āļ™āļāđˆāļ­āļ™

    Why don't we have better HS football players? Arkansas has the smallest population in the SEC excepting Mississippi. Arkansas has the lowest avg number of students per school district than any state in the SEC yet we have MORE school districts than all but three of those states. What does all this mean?
    It means our best HS athletes are spread all over the state into too many schools that dilute the talent of those schools. For example, in Washington Co you have Fayetteville, Springdale, Har-Ber as large schools with generally good athletes playing together. But what if you combined Farmington, Prairie Grove and Lincoln as well as Elkins, Greenland, and West Fork. You get the best players from those three small schools playing together. Not only do you combine the best athletes, they would play similar and better competition. Further, the large schools have the $$ for good coaches, staffs, and facilities. The small schools often have coaches that are not as good with little to no staff and inferior facilities. The Washington Co. scenario plays out all over the state. Go to South Arkansas and look at Union Co. Imagine the athletes if you combined El Dorado, Smackover, Junction City, Parkers Chapel, and Huttig.
    The scenario I prescribe is what plays out in most other SEC states. Look at Mississippi. Tupelo is playing for the State Championship in the largest classification. Lee Co Miss. has one school district and one High School: Tupelo. Every athlete in Lee Co plays for Tupelo High School and they play a schedule vs. similar schools. If a 5 star football player comes out of Tupelo HS you know he has played the best competition in the state, has been coached by highly trained coaches, and works out in the finest facilities. Can you say the same about a 5-Star who comes out of Hope, Arkansas (and no offense to Hope or kids who play there)?