Please keep it up. I remember 10 years ago going over the internet trying to discover how to make an oud and finding nothing detailed for a beginner. This is nothing short of a luthier's training. Thank you!
Exactly 👌🤦 that's why I'm making these videos. Because I've been one of those who digging those videos to find my way. Hope to see my videos been helpful to others 🙏♥️
Great video as always. Question: how would it affect the sound if the ribs are not perfectly the same shape so that there are misalignments before scraping, or different thicknesses after scraping? Also, would it affect the sound if during the heating process some parts of the wood is burnt black? Thank you!
You know! What we need is to use as little glue as possible in our joints for long, long-lasting life and sound also (sound is affected, especially when our glue has some kind of elastic characteristic like PVA glues). Burning the wood is not that problematic as long as it does not get fragile. I've seen some traditional makers using a direct flame to bend wood. They burn it, but I don't prefer it personally. Also, burning some parts and leaving other parts normal can make your Oud sound unpredictable, I think.🙏❤️
@@mansouroud About the elastic glue: does this mean that the bowl should be as rigid as possible? In that case, would the thickness of the wood strips affect sound? Regarding the burning, I guess that severe blackening would destroy the wood structures and cause it to loose elasticity, which doesn't matter much for the bowl but matters for the soundboard. Of course in oud making you never heat the soundboard, but for other instruments like Uyghur duttar they often heat mulberry soundboard to cook out the oil and dome it. They take extra care not to blacken it.
@abdumushuk2219 about elasticity of glue, I'm talking about how chrisp it is in comparison to pva family of glues. Also reacting to climate, natural and living character that Hide glue has, makes it a better candidate for a wooden musical instrument. In my opinion. But effects on sound would be that chrisp quality has on making the vibration uniform. It is more close to wood itself. Also glue does not handling pressure, so we need a good matching. Thickness can gives us more reliable joint but makes the instrument heavier but it's the maker choice. I've seen a very lovely vibration in some ouds with thick woods but there is some kind of tuning about harmonizing the thickness all around the soundbox body. I haven't tried it that precisely yet!
@@mansouroud that's interesting... I'd imagine a crisp glue would help vibration because it won't dampen vibrations. This afternoon I just sanded some mahogany pieces to 3.3mm. I plan to use them to make a duttar bowl next month. Good luck to me!
@abdumushuk2219 I wish you best on your way to make another beautiful creation like Duttar. Here in iran we have duttar and I have many friends who make duttars. Lovely ancient instrument. I think normally Oud ribs are thinner than Duttar. I've seen my friends make their duttars with 3.5mm to 4mm or even more. For Oud some luthiers use less than 3mm which I don't prefer. Happy new project 🙏♥️
I've been working with Hide glue on some of my Ouds but right now I don't access a good hide glue. After 20 minutes to half an hour its ready for the next rib.
Please keep it up. I remember 10 years ago going over the internet trying to discover how to make an oud and finding nothing detailed for a beginner. This is nothing short of a luthier's training. Thank you!
Exactly 👌🤦 that's why I'm making these videos. Because I've been one of those who digging those videos to find my way. Hope to see my videos been helpful to others 🙏♥️
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Use a (STANLEY No. 7 Jointer Plane) to scrape the ribs if you want a very precise fit.
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Unfortunately I don't have it right now, but the table that I've made to expand my No.4, works well 👌
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Great video as always. Question: how would it affect the sound if the ribs are not perfectly the same shape so that there are misalignments before scraping, or different thicknesses after scraping? Also, would it affect the sound if during the heating process some parts of the wood is burnt black? Thank you!
You know! What we need is to use as little glue as possible in our joints for long, long-lasting life and sound also (sound is affected, especially when our glue has some kind of elastic characteristic like PVA glues).
Burning the wood is not that problematic as long as it does not get fragile. I've seen some traditional makers using a direct flame to bend wood. They burn it, but I don't prefer it personally. Also, burning some parts and leaving other parts normal can make your Oud sound unpredictable, I think.🙏❤️
@@mansouroud About the elastic glue: does this mean that the bowl should be as rigid as possible? In that case, would the thickness of the wood strips affect sound?
Regarding the burning, I guess that severe blackening would destroy the wood structures and cause it to loose elasticity, which doesn't matter much for the bowl but matters for the soundboard. Of course in oud making you never heat the soundboard, but for other instruments like Uyghur duttar they often heat mulberry soundboard to cook out the oil and dome it. They take extra care not to blacken it.
@abdumushuk2219 about elasticity of glue, I'm talking about how chrisp it is in comparison to pva family of glues.
Also reacting to climate, natural and living character that Hide glue has, makes it a better candidate for a wooden musical instrument.
In my opinion.
But effects on sound would be that chrisp quality has on making the vibration uniform. It is more close to wood itself.
Also glue does not handling pressure, so we need a good matching.
Thickness can gives us more reliable joint but makes the instrument heavier but it's the maker choice. I've seen a very lovely vibration in some ouds with thick woods but there is some kind of tuning about harmonizing the thickness all around the soundbox body. I haven't tried it that precisely yet!
@@mansouroud that's interesting... I'd imagine a crisp glue would help vibration because it won't dampen vibrations. This afternoon I just sanded some mahogany pieces to 3.3mm. I plan to use them to make a duttar bowl next month. Good luck to me!
@abdumushuk2219 I wish you best on your way to make another beautiful creation like Duttar. Here in iran we have duttar and I have many friends who make duttars. Lovely ancient instrument. I think normally Oud ribs are thinner than Duttar. I've seen my friends make their duttars with 3.5mm to 4mm or even more. For Oud some luthiers use less than 3mm which I don't prefer. Happy new project 🙏♥️
why not use hide glue for the ribs? How many mins do you wait for titebond to dry and ready for another rib?
I've been working with Hide glue on some of my Ouds but right now I don't access a good hide glue. After 20 minutes to half an hour its ready for the next rib.
@ I wish you success 💐 thanks for the answer