Sam, great drag race comparison. Best channel on TH-cam period! Very diversified and super interesting~! I love the direction you are taking the channel. Thanks for the continued fantastic no bull content. You're doing a great job! Knocking on the door of 100K Subs! Well done brother. Happy Holidays.
Yeah, wtf are they thinking. Saw a commercial for my motorcycle, an NC750X, a mild adventure bike. I bought it to commute and light touring with it's great storage compartment and average 70+mpg. The commercial showed it charging over mountains, going to the beaches with hot babes, etc. But, salesmen are crap.
@@Broxty 4 mountain bikes, trail riding with whole family couple times a week. Don't need the bumpy ride of body on frame truck, unibody construction of Ridgeline ride like a suv.
The Honda Ridgeline is built in Lincoln, Alabama and the Hyundai Santa Cruz is built in Montgomery, Alabama, you just watched a drag between two Alabama made trucks.
@@Broxty Haha yet you are watching this video. My 06 Ridgeline just clocked 390k miles with no issues, just picked up a new 24 edition and expect the same. It towed my 21' fiberglass walleye boat every year to Canada, went 16 years elk hunting in Montana and towed more trailers of oak than I can count. All my buddies with 150's and 250's always wanted to ride in the Ridgeline on longs trips because of the ride quality and gas mileage. I love comments from uneducated people like you that know nothing about the usefulness of a vehicle. Garbage, yeah 400k miles nearly with nothing but proper maintenance, you sir are a boob.
It’s interesting to me to see the Ridgeline build torque early and then it flattens out so by the time the Santa Cruz gets through the turbo lag and starts building power it’s over for the Ridgeline. Great channel I enjoyed this.
A lot of people confuse "turbo lag" on modern vehicles for what is really happening. Manufacturers use turbos so small that they spool up in an instant and with a brake boost start some boost is already there. The computer actually brings boost on very slowly intentionally in 1st gear to help with traction and limit drivetrain abuse. Its easily seen using an OBDII scanning tool. You might be giving the vehicle 100% throttle but the computer tells it only 40% then slowly builds up.
This is true. I have a 2023 Sorento with the same engine/transmission and it absolutely limits torque in 1st gear. As soon as it shifts in to 2nd gear, you can feel it pull much harder, and I have an OBD2 data logger to confirm this. If Hyundai/Kia offered a launch control mode on these vehicles, which let you build boost off the line and didn't limit torque, the Sant Cruz and Sorento would do 0-60 in the mid 5's I'm guessing. Alas, these aren't sports cars and they are tuned for comfort and reliability, so I can't complain. 0-60 in the low 6's is still pretty darn fun.
@@carlohenley4044 I have 23 X Line Sorento , You are correct that thing is really fun to drive for what it is, ONLY 4 cylinder and 3rows of seats!!!!!!😆😆😆😆🤣🤣that's funny as hell to me, Times have changed I love my v8s but 4 cylinder are not what they used to be,SIGNS OF THE TIME.
The Santa Cruz 4th gear around 40mph is the money spot, Santa Cruz owner. Also turn of traction control major difference in take off. Hyundai has an amazing traction control system which limits the get up and go off stop lights.
@@SiriasisOFFICIAL I’m confident the odyssey will be the quickest. Long as they get the wheel spin under control which should be very easy lol. 10 speed auto is wonderful and it does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 1/4 mile at 95 mph no other van currently can match that. a base model Pacifica fwd or the 3.5 V6 sienna with the 8 speed will come close but no closer than within a couple tenths
I will take HONDA reliability, & I can't believe I'm saying this but, torque. I feel like the Ridgeline to be faster in the real world because on the Dig races the Santa Cruz didn't even pass the Ridgeline till 135k an hour or so. That's over 80 mph here in the US and no truck should be going that fast anyway in normal conditions
That 3.5 vtec defies logic. The RL is less aerodynamic, heavier, has less power, less torque, slower shifting transmission, and yet it still beats the SC all the way up to 75mph or so when the SC passes. Absolutely nuts.
Be nice to see you guys swap vehicles and repeat the tests, due to different driving styles, reaction times etc... Thanks for the tests, that Santa Cruz looking intriguing.
Brake torque a DCT that doesn't have launch control built-in and it'll dump the revs once you release the brakes to preserve the transmission especially on Hyundai Kia products with the long warranty
As outdated as the Ridgeline interior is, I'd pick the Ridgeline's interior over SC interior all day for the better ergonomics. Ridgeline has real switches for climate controls, not that capacitive crap.
@@Frank-hg9rl DCTs are great for quick shifts, but they seem to have problems launching well from a standstill, especially when coupled with a laggy 4 banger turbo. I haven't heard much about launch problems with other brands who use DCTs though, so It could be related to manufacturer tuning, since the Kia K5 GT and Hyundai Sonata N-Line have similar launch issues, using basically the same engine and transmission as the Santa Cruz. Maybe they're tuning it to prevent hard launches for warranty purposes. That Ridgeline has one more gear than the Hyundai too, so it may have a steeper ratio 1st gear that helped it get out of the hole better.
@@chuckd7423 You're right. That's why they introduced the "wet " DCT exactly to prevent that problem. Those who have like me the old 7 speed version of it know about it. Some guys, to have quicker launch hold the brake to rev the engine. But even iif Hyundai/ Kia limit the rev exactly to prevent the friction pad to over heat, you can smell the odour of over heat....The new wet dct is much more résistant to that, they even introduced a launcb control that you can ajust the rev.For example, take the Veloster N, it has a 0-60 time of 4.8 versus 5.6 with the manual...
Ridgeline is still the better truck in every way that matters. Front seat room is way better, you even get your own armrest. Back seats are roomier and more comfortable AND the back seat storage is way better with the seats flipped up. The bed is longer, wider, AND has no wheel arches eating up space. The door-swing tailgate, nuff said. Even the in-bed trunk is twice as big. The price isn't even that far apart. A top line Cruz = RTL trim - within a few thousand dollars. - Look, I WANTED to like the Cruz. In fact the Ridgeline wasn't even on my shopping list. Than I saw the Cruz in person. Dam, that bed is tiny. I'm sure there's a few people out there that will find it 'fuctional', but coming from a 6' Ford Ranger bed - I won't be one of them. I think back to the last 20 years of pickup ownership - and the tiny Cruz bed would have let me down at least 75% of the time. You seriously need to see both in person before getting excited about the Cruz.
Great video!! 🔥🔥 Not surprising results though, considering the fact that the Honda weighs more by few hundred pounds and naturally aspirated. Would love to see a brake test from 60 to 0.
@@pcthayer I'd like to see that comparison too. I think the turbo AWD Maverick and turbo AWD Santa Cruz would compare pretty closely on acceleration, but I suspect the Maverick might do better off road. The Santa Cruz doesn't seem to have very good traction in off road situations, but that could probably be improved with some software tweaks. For some reason, the U.S. version of the Santa Cruz isn't equipped with multiple off road modes, while versions outside of the U.S. are. The AWD Maverick has 5 different drive modes, and if you add the reasonably priced FX4 package, it adds 3 more modes designed specifically for off road use. That may be something Hyundai wants to get rectified, since the SC has performed poorly with distributing power to wheels with traction in off road situations. The Ridgeline also has a more sophisticated AWD system than the SC and does much better in off road situations.
@@chuckd7423 The Maverick, if you add the tow package ($745 U.S.) you also get the "upgraded drive ratio" which should give you better 'off the line' acceleration.
Tell ya what... Ive had mine for more then a month. 2liter Ecoboost AWD....and I've beaten everyone of my friends V8 powered FORD and DODGE¡!!!. 8 gears and great gearing,its QUICK You'll be shocked when ya get one. Cant wait until they make a flash for it like the BRONCO SPORT😎
Hi bro. Sam Nice explnation about the two cars and excellent drag race u done .. My suggestion to add Braking and horn sound to your test .. Funally thanks a lot for your efforts and best regards Hyn. & Gen. Fanboy ❤️
sam what kind of camera do you guys use in and outside the vehicles? I like it when you guys mount a small camera in the interior on the sunroof. I want to vlog in my vehicle.
I own a 10 year old Hyundai Genesis sedan with a 4.6 385 hp V8 and a 6 speed automatic. It's never been to the dealer or any shop for repairs, and the only things I've changed out on it are tires, brake pads, battery, and windshield wipers. It's probably the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, and the most comfortable driver, with all of the factory bells and whistles anyone could want in a vehicle, and everything still working like new.
Maybe 10 years or more. My 07 Honda Pilot is a true statement to that. Nothing against Hyundai, I believe they have come a long way and are very innovative. Same for KIA the offer a lot more value for the money.
@@chuckd7423 Genesis is the top of the line. Genesis should have more quality because is a competitor of luxury cars. Now, how many Sonatas/Accents 2010 are on the streets? Check how many (Camrys/Corollas, Accords/Civics) 2010?
Awesome matchup. I was wondering how the new Santa Fe would perform and I’m pretty impressed. It would’ve perfect if it didn’t have that turbo lag at the beginning, but can have it all at that price range.
I like the fact that Hyundai has added port injection along with their GDI so carbon build up on the valves should not be a problem when the miles are racked up.
That lens the question, Is there a mileage/hour interval that the cylinder should be removed and serviced, and is that half-life of the bearings. Don't remember that condition ever being debated on automobiles, but is required on most small airplane engines.
My prediction is: From a standing start, it's a toss up, but from a roll, the quicker shifts of the Santa Cruz's DCT will be the determining factor. That said though, the SC isn't really even classified as a mid-size truck. Still really looking forward to this one.
What makes a Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Jeep Gladiator, Ram 1500, and Ford Ranger a midsize truck, but not a Hyundai Santa Cruz? Is it because it’s bed and cargo is much smaller? Or maybe a marketing thing or a weird legal quirk similar to how many SUV’s are listed as Station Wagons?
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz has 22% less cargo space than the Ridgeline and 48% less cargo space than the Frontier. The cargo area is tiny on the Santa Cruz.
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz is considerably smaller in every dimension than the Ridgeline, or any other midsize truck, such as Tacoma, Frontier, Colorado, or Canyon. Aside from the much smaller bed, it's at least a foot shorter in length than midsize pickups. The only place the Santa Cruz is somewhat competitive in size with some of the midsize pickups is in interior space, and that's at the expense of bed length. The new Ford Maverick is similar in size to the Santa Cruz, and will be a direct competitor.
i really liked this, i still want the honda even though its slower... but it was nice to see where it stood next to something with a better power to weight ratio.
3.8 is not displacement but I get your point. You forgot to point the T word. turbo. And there is also a 500+ weight difference. I’m not a Honda apologist , love all cars but your comment is a little out.
@@9663mu It's 3.5L. And if it's not a displacement then what do you call it? Casual! It's not a huge displacement but it's still a displacement. 0.1L is still called a displacement. 🤣 The adage refers to a huge displacement compared to a much smaller displacement (but usually with forced induction). 😏
Do you guys have the VW Amarok V6 in Canada?. It would be interesting do to a comparo between the Amarok and the Honda Ridgeline. Keep doing those great drag and roll race.
Well The Honda engine is one of the most reliable engines in the world. Also the Ridgeline has 7% more interior space and 22% more cargo space. Not in the same class
@Turnt ! i agree with you. Even though I own a Honda Passport, I do believe that if honda and toyota keeps banking on their past success Hyundai will take over. I only bought the Honda Passport cause the Telluride was selling above MSRP . . . . That says a lot in my opinion
@@hassansmw5634 The Santa Cruz is as much a truck as the Ridgeline. It's basically just a smaller version of the Ridgeline, with similar tow and payload capabilities, but with a smaller bed and a slightly more powerful engine.
Need to do some Gene splicing between these one and the FMav, that would be a good truck.😍. I like the exterior of the SC, simple interior of FM, and the size and utility/AWD of the RL. Bring something out that has all that combo in a Hybrid in the price of the FM Lariat and I will get 2. Cheers
I am happy to see the comparison but this is not a midsize battle. These are completely different sized vehicles. The Ridgeline is more than a foot longer and 700 lbs heavier.
While I agree with you that the Santa Cruz is not a midsize truck, the weight difference between the top spec models of each vehicle is around 350 pounds, not 700 pounds. Ridgelines are all AWD equipped with similar weight, but the Santa Cruz offers a non-turbo, FWD version that's around 400 lbs lighter than their turbo AWD model. The FWD Santa Cruz with the non turbo engine might be 700 lbs lighter than the Ridgeline, but that's not the model that was used in this video comparison.
@@chuckd7423 you are correct. I was looking at the weight of the fwd non turbo. I am surprised that there is only a few hundred pound weight difference.
Regarding the lag, I don't own a Santa Cruz as yet. Trying to decide between the Limited & SEL Premium that is available here in US. But, I do own (wife's vehicle) a 2022 Santa Fe Limited with the same 2.5T engine & 8 speed DCT. It does not appear to have any lag at the line whatsoever! I thought I wanted a Honda Ridgeline for myself until I bought our Santa Fe - and my wife let me drive it some! I thought the 2.0T in our 2015 Santa Fe was fast - but the 2.5T paired along with the 8 speed DCT - I am like WOW! Auto Engine Stop (override) switch - I simply can't understand why Hyundai did not incorporate this into the Santa Cruz! Just like this drag race presentation - there are simply times I just don't want the engine to stop! Then, there are other times - especially when giving a fast-food order - that I want the feature. With that said, I am just going to keep driving my current truck and wait another year and hopefully Hyundai will incorporate this feature and also realize their short-coming regarding the passenger seat adjustments (Santa Fe Limited has 8-way power adjustment for driver and passenger) - AND PUT THE DAMN KNOBS BACK ON FOR THE INFOTAINMENT CENTER!
Maybe we all have our versions of being beating by a lot . A close race is less than a car length in my opinion. Mind you the 2.5t Santa Fe has a sub 6 sec 0-60 with the htrac
@@xfiringsquadx the Ridgeline HPD is just trim items, wheels and decals. Still the same engine and Trans as the other trims. But the HPD still looks good.
I wouldn't call a vehicle technologically advanced when the AWD system is very dumb. The iVTM-4 found in the RL is in another level. The SC is getting stuck in places that an RL will walk out.
The iVTM-4 is exactly the same as Acuras SH-AWD. The original VTM-4 was horrible so they used Acuras technology on the newer generation. That said, yes it's a good AWD system but it's mainly designed for pavement, not off-road.
@@xfiringsquadx, please tell us what was so horrible about VTM-4? It's STILL superior to Hyundai's H-TRAC system which is just another single-clutch AWD system with an open rear differential.
@@zroger73 Wow, TH-cam autodelete is impossible these days 🤦♂️. If you check your email, you'll see my deleted response. Long story short, overheating.
@@xfiringsquadx the vtm-4 the gen 1 has is much better off road than the 2nd gen, if I recall it has a type of locker that only works till maybe 30mph whereas the AWD does way way better on road. If you want to take your Gen 2 further off road replace the OEM trans cooler with a mishimoto.
@@sunshineruffio8071 This is true. Issues aside, it definitely outperforms iVTM-4 off-road since that's what it was designed for. It's a shame they couldn't come up with a second version that was better rather than renaming SH-AWD for a Honda application. Not that SH-AWD isn't good, it just wasn't designed with off-roading in mind.
I recently received my whits SC Limited. Personally I feel white is the best color for the Santa Cruz. It's SURPRISINGLY quick from a roll. From a dig hyundai has programmed the launch so that it preserves the dct. It won't do any hard launches. But whatdouknow. It ain't a race car. I used to own a MK7 GTI and the Santa Cruz accelerates even harder than it when passing cars on the freeway.
9 out of 10 times, i prefer good acceleration over top speed when doing some harrowing pull onto a highway in front of traffic. Good comparison though.
Hey Sam, great video. But is there any chance you could turn the beeping sound down when text appears on screen? It's a little loud and gave me a headache 😆
I realize that the "winner" of the race is the Santa Cruz. However, IMO turbo lag is the worst Achilles heel when you get yourself into a driving situation where you need to get up to speed and out of the way quickly to avoid a collision. We might have moments where we accidentally pull out in front of oncoming traffic that is driving quicker than we may have realized, etc - and turbo lag is not what you want to occur in those precious few seconds after hitting the accelerator.
@@Pyroo0 if it's just dirt, snow, and mud the Ridgeline can keep up or even pass any others. Just upgrade to an awesome set of ATT. If it's Rock or River go Jeep or Taco.
Still shopping... still like the Ridgeline better... the bed is a foot longer and the Santa Cruz loses an additional inches at the bed top.... plus the in-bed cargo box it at least twice as big.....
I feel very confident that after 6 years of ownership, the Honda is going to be in much better condition than the Hyundai. Honda is just a better engineered vehicle. IMHO.
I expect every pickup truck are specifically designs as a utility vehicle and it is seldom to be race cars although naturally aspirated engines have any life expectancies to endure long lasting general purpose comprising only with hyperutectic pistons without damaging its components if runs for normal uses 🤣😂
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Sam, great drag race comparison. Best channel on TH-cam period! Very diversified and super interesting~! I love the direction you are taking the channel. Thanks for the continued fantastic no bull content. You're doing a great job! Knocking on the door of 100K Subs! Well done brother. Happy Holidays.
Thank you Chris :)
This is the original reason I bought my ridgeline; drag racing.
Yeah, wtf are they thinking. Saw a commercial for my motorcycle, an NC750X, a mild adventure bike. I bought it to commute and light touring with it's great storage compartment and average 70+mpg. The commercial showed it charging over mountains, going to the beaches with hot babes, etc. But, salesmen are crap.
Sounds like you don't HAVE the same potential......but I can understand of you owning a Ridgeline!
@@theejoeylee Don't have a Ridgeline, that's my motorcycle that gets 70mpg. I'm buying a Ford Mavrick.
What did you buy it for? Not hauling or towing lol.
@@Broxty 4 mountain bikes, trail riding with whole family couple times a week. Don't need the bumpy ride of body on frame truck, unibody construction of Ridgeline ride like a suv.
The Honda Ridgeline is built in Lincoln, Alabama and the Hyundai Santa Cruz is built in Montgomery, Alabama, you just watched a drag between two Alabama made trucks.
LoL more like ones japanese and the other is south Korean
Ridgeline is known for its reliability and longevity. It can haul and tow a reasonable amount of weight. Two totally different class of vehicles.
Ridge line can't tow or haul anything..... Both these "trucks" are absolutely garbage.
@@Broxty Haha yet you are watching this video. My 06 Ridgeline just clocked 390k miles with no issues, just picked up a new 24 edition and expect the same. It towed my 21' fiberglass walleye boat every year to Canada, went 16 years elk hunting in Montana and towed more trailers of oak than I can count. All my buddies with 150's and 250's always wanted to ride in the Ridgeline on longs trips because of the ride quality and gas mileage. I love comments from uneducated people like you that know nothing about the usefulness of a vehicle. Garbage, yeah 400k miles nearly with nothing but proper maintenance, you sir are a boob.
RL weighs 500lbs more with the same HP but has a super low 1st gear on that ZF9. The results make sense
thank you Sam for the drag race. I love this channel cause it drag racing the cars that we can afford, not some supercars.
I'd like to see a minivan drag race. Pacifica vs Odessey, Sienna, and Carnival.
odyssey gonna fuck it up
Get a life
Hi Limousine Carnibal
Sorrento also
Agree , also the Nissan Maxima SR vs Toyota Camry TRD
It’s interesting to me to see the Ridgeline build torque early and then it flattens out so by the time the Santa Cruz gets through the turbo lag and starts building power it’s over for the Ridgeline. Great channel I enjoyed this.
Great race, I was actually pretty curious about this one. Keep it up Sam!
I'll pick that sweet sounding J35 and reliability all day.
And a better AWD system and more functionality and capacity!! Ridgeline all day!
Lol
Those 3.5 engines are junk, piston ring problems.
We aren’t talking about the Nissan 3.5 engine! 😂
@@omarescamilla6223 no piston ring problems. That's on 3.5 with TCM.
The J35 is a testament to great Honda engineering.
until it's time to change the timing belt...
@@jay.0621 Its weird that they are still using a timing belt, my K-Series Honda uses a timing chain.
J32 as well
I can’t stand the way Honda transmission shifts. Not a fan of Hyundai either.
@@jay.0621 Timing belt 1k at the Dealer, $300-$400 elsewhere.
A lot of people confuse "turbo lag" on modern vehicles for what is really happening. Manufacturers use turbos so small that they spool up in an instant and with a brake boost start some boost is already there. The computer actually brings boost on very slowly intentionally in 1st gear to help with traction and limit drivetrain abuse. Its easily seen using an OBDII scanning tool. You might be giving the vehicle 100% throttle but the computer tells it only 40% then slowly builds up.
This is true. I have a 2023 Sorento with the same engine/transmission and it absolutely limits torque in 1st gear. As soon as it shifts in to 2nd gear, you can feel it pull much harder, and I have an OBD2 data logger to confirm this. If Hyundai/Kia offered a launch control mode on these vehicles, which let you build boost off the line and didn't limit torque, the Sant Cruz and Sorento would do 0-60 in the mid 5's I'm guessing. Alas, these aren't sports cars and they are tuned for comfort and reliability, so I can't complain. 0-60 in the low 6's is still pretty darn fun.
@@carlohenley4044 I have 23 X Line Sorento , You are correct that thing is really fun to drive for what it is, ONLY 4 cylinder and 3rows of seats!!!!!!😆😆😆😆🤣🤣that's funny as hell to me, Times have changed I love my v8s but 4 cylinder are not what they used to be,SIGNS OF THE TIME.
I'm sure the Ridgeline limits it some at WOT launch too not just the wannabe hyundai
The Santa Cruz 4th gear around 40mph is the money spot, Santa Cruz owner. Also turn of traction control major difference in take off. Hyundai has an amazing traction control system which limits the get up and go off stop lights.
Love the Picture in Picture during the races. Your channel keeps improving!
Would like to see Honda Odyssey vs Chrysler Pacifica or Honda Odyssey vs Kia carnival
Or how about 4 vans at the same time? Odyssey vs Pacifica vs Pacifica Hybrid vs Carnival
@@SiriasisOFFICIAL Sienna has no chance, it will be the slowest.
Yes!!
@@SiriasisOFFICIAL I’m confident the odyssey will be the quickest. Long as they get the wheel spin under control which should be very easy lol. 10 speed auto is wonderful and it does 0-60 in 6.5 seconds and 1/4 mile at 95 mph no other van currently can match that. a base model Pacifica fwd or the 3.5 V6 sienna with the 8 speed will come close but no closer than within a couple tenths
The Chrysler will win
I will take HONDA reliability, & I can't believe I'm saying this but, torque.
I feel like the Ridgeline to be faster in the real world because on the Dig races the Santa Cruz didn't even pass the Ridgeline till 135k an hour or so.
That's over 80 mph here in the US and no truck should be going that fast anyway in normal conditions
After picking up one of these, I stopped off and got my hair and nails done. The box was great for my receipts. Proof these are in fact, trucks.
That 3.5 vtec defies logic. The RL is less aerodynamic, heavier, has less power, less torque, slower shifting transmission, and yet it still beats the SC all the way up to 75mph or so when the SC passes. Absolutely nuts.
the ZF 9-sp is that good
Japanese, not crappy korean made
@@allentoyokawa9068 look at this hater. Stick to your slow ass Toyota.
The Santa Cruz is quicker 0-60 by about 1/2 second so no, Ridgeline loses way before it hits 60
There's nothing Japanese about this truck.... It's fucking made in Alabama. @@allentoyokawa9068
Please please sonata 1.6T vs accord 1.5T!!!
Nice review keep up the good work Sam
Be nice to see you guys swap vehicles and repeat the tests, due to different driving styles, reaction times etc... Thanks for the tests, that Santa Cruz looking intriguing.
Brake torque a DCT that doesn't have launch control built-in and it'll dump the revs once you release the brakes to preserve the transmission especially on Hyundai Kia products with the long warranty
The Ridgeline is seriously one of the most comfortable vehicles I've driven. If I actually needed an SUV or truck, I'd highly consider buying one.
Not!! I wouldn't be caught dead in that POS!
@@billbobaggins801 which truck would you rather drive?
I bought a '19 RL. Best vehicle purchase I ever made.
@@billbobaggins801 How exactly is it a POS?
As outdated as the Ridgeline interior is, I'd pick the Ridgeline's interior over SC interior all day for the better ergonomics. Ridgeline has real switches for climate controls, not that capacitive crap.
😂😂😂
Santa Cruz is smaller than a Ridgeline, it’s just like comparing a Tucson with Pilot.
Yeah 300-400 lb difference
And what do you want to compare to it ?🙄
@@petermad7476 your butt
Well said
@@CCET3Drums I’m not gay you can get Deans or Aquaboy
Those 3.5 Honda V6s are pretty quick for what they are. The Ridgeline just weighs about 300 lbs more and has way less torque in this case
Plus the Dct.....Those transmission are far from perfect, but on this kind of test, you can't beat it..They are much more quiker than regular one..
@@Frank-hg9rl DCTs are great for quick shifts, but they seem to have problems launching well from a standstill, especially when coupled with a laggy 4 banger turbo. I haven't heard much about launch problems with other brands who use DCTs though, so It could be related to manufacturer tuning, since the Kia K5 GT and Hyundai Sonata N-Line have similar launch issues, using basically the same engine and transmission as the Santa Cruz. Maybe they're tuning it to prevent hard launches for warranty purposes. That Ridgeline has one more gear than the Hyundai too, so it may have a steeper ratio 1st gear that helped it get out of the hole better.
@@chuckd7423 You're right. That's why they introduced the "wet " DCT exactly to prevent that problem. Those who have like me the old 7 speed version of it know about it. Some guys, to have quicker launch hold the brake to rev the engine. But even iif Hyundai/ Kia limit the rev exactly to prevent the friction pad to over heat, you can smell the odour of over heat....The new wet dct is much more résistant to that, they even introduced a launcb control that you can ajust the rev.For example, take the Veloster N, it has a 0-60 time of 4.8 versus 5.6 with the manual...
Honda should have added a turbo option to their J35 engine, I am pretty sure the block can handle some PSI of boost pressure.
@@applepoop10 The block can but the AWD system can't
Ridgeline is still the better truck in every way that matters. Front seat room is way better, you even get your own armrest. Back seats are roomier and more comfortable AND the back seat storage is way better with the seats flipped up. The bed is longer, wider, AND has no wheel arches eating up space. The door-swing tailgate, nuff said. Even the in-bed trunk is twice as big. The price isn't even that far apart. A top line Cruz = RTL trim - within a few thousand dollars.
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Look, I WANTED to like the Cruz. In fact the Ridgeline wasn't even on my shopping list. Than I saw the Cruz in person. Dam, that bed is tiny. I'm sure there's a few people out there that will find it 'fuctional', but coming from a 6' Ford Ranger bed - I won't be one of them. I think back to the last 20 years of pickup ownership - and the tiny Cruz bed would have let me down at least 75% of the time. You seriously need to see both in person before getting excited about the Cruz.
I put a cap on my Ridgeline. Lots of room for camping equipment and pulls the camper very well.
Launch the Ridgeline in Sand mode then toggle to normal right away.....
Thank you so much for this tip. I tried this today and wow, what a difference!
Going to try it tommorow
Great video!! 🔥🔥 Not surprising results though, considering the fact that the Honda weighs more by few hundred pounds and naturally aspirated. Would love to see a brake test from 60 to 0.
Omg. Can’t wait for this. Next up, maverick.
Exactly....the AWD 2.0T model.
@@pcthayer I'd like to see that comparison too. I think the turbo AWD Maverick and turbo AWD Santa Cruz would compare pretty closely on acceleration, but I suspect the Maverick might do better off road. The Santa Cruz doesn't seem to have very good traction in off road situations, but that could probably be improved with some software tweaks. For some reason, the U.S. version of the Santa Cruz isn't equipped with multiple off road modes, while versions outside of the U.S. are. The AWD Maverick has 5 different drive modes, and if you add the reasonably priced FX4 package, it adds 3 more modes designed specifically for off road use. That may be something Hyundai wants to get rectified, since the SC has performed poorly with distributing power to wheels with traction in off road situations. The Ridgeline also has a more sophisticated AWD system than the SC and does much better in off road situations.
@@chuckd7423 The Maverick, if you add the tow package ($745 U.S.) you also get the "upgraded drive ratio" which should give you better 'off the line' acceleration.
Tell ya what... Ive had mine for more then a month. 2liter Ecoboost AWD....and I've beaten everyone of my friends V8 powered FORD and DODGE¡!!!. 8 gears and great gearing,its QUICK You'll be shocked when ya get one. Cant wait until they make a flash for it like the BRONCO SPORT😎
Hi bro. Sam
Nice explnation about the two cars and excellent drag race u done .. My suggestion to add Braking and horn sound to your test .. Funally thanks a lot for your efforts and best regards
Hyn. & Gen. Fanboy ❤️
Great video as per usual. Would love to see the GV70 2.5T vs Acura RDX !!! shopping around, 1-2 on my list. Cheers
Kana, have you considered a CR-V?
sam what kind of camera do you guys use in and outside the vehicles? I like it when you guys mount a small camera in the interior on the sunroof. I want to vlog in my vehicle.
Honda is an actual truck, Hyundai is a car with a unusual trunk. No comparison…
Why is the audio so bad at times you can’t make out what is being said ?
Wait 5 Years. Honda's and Toyotas still working in excellent conditions after years.
I own a 10 year old Hyundai Genesis sedan with a 4.6 385 hp V8 and a 6 speed automatic. It's never been to the dealer or any shop for repairs, and the only things I've changed out on it are tires, brake pads, battery, and windshield wipers. It's probably the most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, and the most comfortable driver, with all of the factory bells and whistles anyone could want in a vehicle, and everything still working like new.
Honda has awful reliability
Maybe 10 years or more. My 07 Honda Pilot is a true statement to that. Nothing against Hyundai, I believe they have come a long way and are very innovative. Same for KIA the offer a lot more value for the money.
@@chuckd7423 Genesis is the top of the line. Genesis should have more quality because is a competitor of luxury cars. Now, how many Sonatas/Accents 2010 are on the streets? Check how many (Camrys/Corollas, Accords/Civics) 2010?
@@newyee3315 oh really i dont know wt ef you talking about because my 14 civic is over 240k and still runs well everyday.
Awesome matchup. I was wondering how the new Santa Fe would perform and I’m pretty impressed. It would’ve perfect if it didn’t have that turbo lag at the beginning, but can have it all at that price range.
I like the fact that Hyundai has added port injection along with their GDI so carbon build up on the valves should not be a problem when the miles are racked up.
That lens the question, Is there a mileage/hour interval that the cylinder should be removed and serviced, and is that half-life of the bearings. Don't remember that condition ever being debated on automobiles, but is required on most small airplane engines.
My prediction is:
From a standing start, it's a toss up, but from a roll, the quicker shifts of the Santa Cruz's DCT will be the determining factor.
That said though, the SC isn't really even classified as a mid-size truck.
Still really looking forward to this one.
What makes a Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Tacoma, Nissan Frontier, Jeep Gladiator, Ram 1500, and Ford Ranger a midsize truck, but not a Hyundai Santa Cruz? Is it because it’s bed and cargo is much smaller? Or maybe a marketing thing or a weird legal quirk similar to how many SUV’s are listed as Station Wagons?
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz has 22% less cargo space than the Ridgeline and 48% less cargo space than the Frontier. The cargo area is tiny on the Santa Cruz.
@@SilverScarletSpider The santa cruz only has a 4 feet bed. The standard for mid size is 5 to 6 feet
@@SilverScarletSpider The Santa Cruz is considerably smaller in every dimension than the Ridgeline, or any other midsize truck, such as Tacoma, Frontier, Colorado, or Canyon. Aside from the much smaller bed, it's at least a foot shorter in length than midsize pickups. The only place the Santa Cruz is somewhat competitive in size with some of the midsize pickups is in interior space, and that's at the expense of bed length. The new Ford Maverick is similar in size to the Santa Cruz, and will be a direct competitor.
In relation to hp per pound than the bed carrying capacity and tire size must be smaller too.
Damn... So many Honda fanboys in the comment section here O_O. Relax guys, It is 0-60 and not reliability test lol.
I'd smoke that Hyundai on a Honda CBR 600 cc.
When Honda boys loses they make excuses and bring up reliability. Wahaha, what a joke!
That driver on the SC don’t know how to drive.
That launch on the Santa Cruz reminds me of my Elantra 2022 N Line. Absolutely terribly launching vehicles.
I am glad that you approve
Turbo lag
Maverick vs Santa Cruz next? I'll still buy the honda ridgeline though.
Because a drag race between pick ups is really useful.
Recorded horizontally:)
i really liked this, i still want the honda even though its slower... but it was nice to see where it stood next to something with a better power to weight ratio.
The Ridgeline looks 🌈
The old adage "No replacement for displacement" goes out of the window. The Santa Cruz looks even better in person. I think it will sell well.
3.8 is not displacement but I get your point. You forgot to point the T word. turbo. And there is also a 500+ weight difference. I’m not a Honda apologist , love all cars but your comment is a little out.
@@9663mu More like a 350 pound weight difference in the two vehicles tested.
@@chuckd7423 I was just going by straight C/D rating. I must have missed it if they mentioned the weight ?
No one will buy the Santa Cruz because it can only tow a bicycle. 🤣 And turbo lag in a pickup truck is disastrous when towing.
@@9663mu It's 3.5L. And if it's not a displacement then what do you call it? Casual! It's not a huge displacement but it's still a displacement. 0.1L is still called a displacement. 🤣 The adage refers to a huge displacement compared to a much smaller displacement (but usually with forced induction). 😏
Imagine if Honda ever makes a V6 TURBO Ridgeline...
there's already enough room behind the grille for an intercooler.
I wonder if pushing the awd button would help with the start on the SC
I wonder how long that Hyundai turbo engine will last
Kidding? One of the most proven engines...
Do you guys have the VW Amarok V6 in Canada?. It would be interesting do to a comparo between the Amarok and the Honda Ridgeline. Keep doing those great drag and roll race.
No mate. Canada does not have it
Nice video. Could be nice if show in the screen the speedometer while you run
Love your Red Bull vest, Sam!
Thank you 🙏
The duct doesn’t do well with break torque. Engage the center “locker” and just floor it for the best time
Is the ridgeline heavier?
Wow nice matchup!
Was the eco button turned off .
The Hyundai Santa Cruz is just a SUV with the back cut out and a small truck bed is made into the vehicle, like a Subaru Brat.
You could say the same thing about the Ridgeline. But that’s not a bad thing.
Well The Honda engine is one of the most reliable engines in the world. Also the Ridgeline has 7% more interior space and 22% more cargo space. Not in the same class
@Turnt !
So because the Hyundai won by a half a second this makes it a better truck?? Oh wait the santa cruz isn't a truck 🤣
@Turnt ! i agree with you. Even though I own a Honda Passport, I do believe that if honda and toyota keeps banking on their past success Hyundai will take over. I only bought the Honda Passport cause the Telluride was selling above MSRP . . . . That says a lot in my opinion
@@hassansmw5634 The Santa Cruz is as much a truck as the Ridgeline. It's basically just a smaller version of the Ridgeline, with similar tow and payload capabilities, but with a smaller bed and a slightly more powerful engine.
@Turnt ! LOL, let me know when Hyundai approaches Honda's legendary reliability
@@IamGroot786 they are approaching
Interesting, but the Ridgeline wins where it counts for more people - tow rating, payload, and GVWR over 6K allows section 179 deduction.
Need to do some Gene splicing between these one and the FMav, that would be a good truck.😍. I like the exterior of the SC, simple interior of FM, and the size and utility/AWD of the RL. Bring something out that has all that combo in a Hybrid in the price of the FM Lariat and I will get 2.
Cheers
When are you going to race the Ford Maverick (2.0) ??
Someone at work has a ridgeline with “TRUCKISH” as the license plate lol
Turbo lag is a death nail for me. It's irritating city driving.
Santa Cruz reminds me of Subaru Baja in 2022
That's what I like about the Ridge great off a red light to green 👍
I am happy to see the comparison but this is not a midsize battle. These are completely different sized vehicles. The Ridgeline is more than a foot longer and 700 lbs heavier.
While I agree with you that the Santa Cruz is not a midsize truck, the weight difference between the top spec models of each vehicle is around 350 pounds, not 700 pounds. Ridgelines are all AWD equipped with similar weight, but the Santa Cruz offers a non-turbo, FWD version that's around 400 lbs lighter than their turbo AWD model. The FWD Santa Cruz with the non turbo engine might be 700 lbs lighter than the Ridgeline, but that's not the model that was used in this video comparison.
@@chuckd7423 you are correct. I was looking at the weight of the fwd non turbo. I am surprised that there is only a few hundred pound weight difference.
Nice! Maverick vs Cruz!
Regarding the lag, I don't own a Santa Cruz as yet. Trying to decide between the Limited & SEL Premium that is available here in US. But, I do own (wife's vehicle) a 2022 Santa Fe Limited with the same 2.5T engine & 8 speed DCT. It does not appear to have any lag at the line whatsoever! I thought I wanted a Honda Ridgeline for myself until I bought our Santa Fe - and my wife let me drive it some! I thought the 2.0T in our 2015 Santa Fe was fast - but the 2.5T paired along with the 8 speed DCT - I am like WOW! Auto Engine Stop (override) switch - I simply can't understand why Hyundai did not incorporate this into the Santa Cruz! Just like this drag race presentation - there are simply times I just don't want the engine to stop! Then, there are other times - especially when giving a fast-food order - that I want the feature. With that said, I am just going to keep driving my current truck and wait another year and hopefully Hyundai will incorporate this feature and also realize their short-coming regarding the passenger seat adjustments (Santa Fe Limited has 8-way power adjustment for driver and passenger) - AND PUT THE DAMN KNOBS BACK ON FOR THE INFOTAINMENT CENTER!
Maybe we all have our versions of being beating by a lot . A close race is less than a car length in my opinion. Mind you the 2.5t Santa Fe has a sub 6 sec 0-60 with the htrac
Really wish Honda would come out with a Performance Ridgeline. Something kinda like what Toyota does with the Tacoma TRD Pro.
The TRD Pro has no advantage as far as acceleration or handling on the street versus a regular Tacoma though.
The Ridgeline needs the Acura type S 3.0 turbo engine and 10 speed transmission.
They do. It's the Ridgeline Sport HPD.
@@xfiringsquadx the Ridgeline HPD is just trim items, wheels and decals. Still the same engine and Trans as the other trims.
But the HPD still looks good.
@@jntaylor63 Which is exactly what a TRD would be. TRD is also mainly cosmetic. They might come with some suspension goodies but that's about it.
It looked like you passed him at 145 kmh (90mph)… was your conclusion that the Ridgeline won the 0-60 but lost the 1/4 mile?
And that is why naturally aspirated engines are better. No turbo lag.
there are several "modes" for the ridgeline , eco, normal, sport,. Each primary mode has normal, mud, snow and sand as well .
the other guy must have been in ECO mode, because the Ridgeline should have jumped from the line and i didn't hear the V-TEC!
Did he not put the ridgeline in sand mode combined with sport mode?
Whatever Honda is still a better vehicle / Honda fan boy
Here for the intro😎
I wouldn't call a vehicle technologically advanced when the AWD system is very dumb.
The iVTM-4 found in the RL is in another level.
The SC is getting stuck in places that an RL will walk out.
The iVTM-4 is exactly the same as Acuras SH-AWD. The original VTM-4 was horrible so they used Acuras technology on the newer generation. That said, yes it's a good AWD system but it's mainly designed for pavement, not off-road.
@@xfiringsquadx, please tell us what was so horrible about VTM-4? It's STILL superior to Hyundai's H-TRAC system which is just another single-clutch AWD system with an open rear differential.
@@zroger73 Wow, TH-cam autodelete is impossible these days 🤦♂️. If you check your email, you'll see my deleted response. Long story short, overheating.
@@xfiringsquadx the vtm-4 the gen 1 has is much better off road than the 2nd gen, if I recall it has a type of locker that only works till maybe 30mph whereas the AWD does way way better on road. If you want to take your Gen 2 further off road replace the OEM trans cooler with a mishimoto.
@@sunshineruffio8071 This is true. Issues aside, it definitely outperforms iVTM-4 off-road since that's what it was designed for. It's a shame they couldn't come up with a second version that was better rather than renaming SH-AWD for a Honda application. Not that SH-AWD isn't good, it just wasn't designed with off-roading in mind.
Can y’all do Hyundai Sonata nline vs audi Q5
How many quarts of oil did the Hyundai burn during filming of this segment...?
After the lag the turbo is a beast !!
that slight edge in 1/4 mile won't make a difference when it's always at the dealer for repairs. lol.
Hyundai warranty is pretty damn good
Very interesting!!
I recently received my whits SC Limited.
Personally I feel white is the best color for the Santa Cruz.
It's SURPRISINGLY quick from a roll. From a dig hyundai has programmed the launch so that it preserves the dct. It won't do any hard launches. But whatdouknow. It ain't a race car.
I used to own a MK7 GTI and the Santa Cruz accelerates even harder than it when passing cars on the freeway.
Times qu@rter?
9 out of 10 times, i prefer good acceleration over top speed when doing some harrowing pull onto a highway in front of traffic. Good comparison though.
Hey Sam, great video. But is there any chance you could turn the beeping sound down when text appears on screen? It's a little loud and gave me a headache 😆
I think the turbo lag is more a lag in your right foot. You seem to be about a second and a half behind in your reaction time to other truck.
How much bigger is the Santa Cruz over the Toyota hilux?
I think the Santa Cruz is going to win. Turbo + lighter weight.
I really would like to see Maverick 2.0t vs Ranger 2.3t and Santa Cruz vs either of them.l
I realize that the "winner" of the race is the Santa Cruz. However, IMO turbo lag is the worst Achilles heel when you get yourself into a driving situation where you need to get up to speed and out of the way quickly to avoid a collision. We might have moments where we accidentally pull out in front of oncoming traffic that is driving quicker than we may have realized, etc - and turbo lag is not what you want to occur in those precious few seconds after hitting the accelerator.
Santa Cruz vs Ranger ? Maybe F150 2.7 ecoboost too!
2020 Maxima vs 2016 Tlx battle of the v6s would be sick
Why 2016 tlx?
You can tell whoever is driving the Honda was not accelerating the whole time.
This was the most wasted test ever. People don't shop trucks to race. It's about off roading, towing, and snow driving.
these aren't trucks for off-roading
@@Pyroo0 what's your definition of off roading? Those trucks are better at off roading than it would be for street racing.
@@misterle7026 roads without numbers.
@@Pyroo0 if it's just dirt, snow, and mud the Ridgeline can keep up or even pass any others. Just upgrade to an awesome set of ATT. If it's Rock or River go Jeep or Taco.
@@misterle7026 I'm just saying that the average person buying these aren't looking for off roaring. Just an SUV with a bed.
Still shopping... still like the Ridgeline better... the bed is a foot longer and the Santa Cruz loses an additional inches at the bed top.... plus the in-bed cargo box it at least twice as big.....
What did you go with?
The lighter weight of the Hyundai makes the difference
probably the transmission too.
I feel very confident that after 6 years of ownership, the Honda is going to be in much better condition than the Hyundai. Honda is just a better engineered vehicle. IMHO.
I bought a Santa Cruz, it isn’t a pickup truck and I didn’t expect it to be. Sport mode the gauges turn red so you know it means business.
I expect every pickup truck are specifically designs as a utility vehicle and it is seldom to be race cars
although naturally aspirated engines have any life expectancies to endure long lasting general purpose comprising only with hyperutectic pistons without damaging its components if runs for normal uses
🤣😂
Awesome