If they truly wanted to they could, they just need to stop hiring activists who only ever want to preach "the message" and actually return to beautiful, meaningful stories again.
That's because every era is unique; I'm sure there were people who grew up loving the silver/bronze age and despising the renaissance age. People who grew up with the revival era will wish Disney would go back to that in a few decades, I'm sure.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 As if those are are mutually exclusive? Meaningful stories literally have a message.That's the whole point of a story. A message, a lesson, etc.
@@LikeTheNumeral They had all the talent and resources they needed to put out a new 2D animated movie almost every year in the 90s up into the 2000s with a perfectly working infrastructure to do it with, and they just hastily threw it all away. This has always been all on them.
@@nicksorenson940 they did indeed. And then they stopped giving the quality storytellers any kind of platform. Every single live action Disney movie other than the Cinderella remake has been absolute trash
It's crazy to think there was a time that Disney wasn't doing animated Broadway musicals when that's what most people now think of when they hear the word Disney.
@@GabePlaysYT Plus, other animated films before the Disney Renaissance weren't trying to emulate Disney's musical style. While some were musicals, the songs and score could still be considered their own without sounding too much like Disney. But then the Disney Renaissance happened and then in the 90s almost all animated musical films try to emulate Disney's score style, especially with the Broadway-style.
It’d be even better without the goofy gargoyles. They kinda break the tone. But beautiful movie nonetheless, probably one of my favorites from Disney too!
It really is. Cuz you dont find it as exciting as a kid, then you rewatch it and realize what a masterpiece it was later. It tries to show young kids the cruelty and yet also beauty in life.
If they remake, Esmeralda is trans; Quasimodo is gay and in love with the blond soldier guy forgot his name, but yeah. Oh but old white man is still pervy ofc
it is shocking how decades ago we got films with better art/animation, great character motivations and arcs and they are able to be subtle with alot of stories as well.
And now, they've lost so much originality and creativity in favor of cranking out nothing but soulless live action remakes that always turn out to be inferior versions of the old films. They have no reason to exist, other than banking off of nostalgia, nothing else.
Agreed. And they had universal stories that spoke to everyone. Not just one group. And the preaching was a lot less subtle. Just look at 90s Mulan. She just cared about saving her dad. Not making a statement about gender.
The little mermaid, beauty and the beast, Aladdin, treasure planet, Tarzan and Hercules are my favorite Disney movies because they all have a theme of finding oneself and they have villains that actually challenge that!
Treasure planet is a low film for disney that they miss its truley a underrated gem that shines for dacades i love atlantis the lost empire too that is awsome as well but heavily underrated
Despite how much effort those awful soulless remakes tried so hard to replace the originals to earn cheap cash, the one really good thing coming from these garbage is that they convince me to appreciate how wonderful and great the original where. It's so ironic.
During the renaissance, I think the mindset of Disney was just… different. They cared about the craftsmanship and love put into each story they told. It was a time where the company itself felt like it cared… not so much anymore, I think. Hardly anyone watched Strange New World, because it felt like it was rehashing old “generational trauma” tropes that Encanto and Turning Red already DID, but executed better imo. The company likely saw the success of Encanto and said “yeah, generational trauma works!” And rehashed it. Again and again. At least Wish is gonna be something kinda-new? Well, for modern Disney anyway. We’ll see how that goes :)
Lets not forget. The storytelling was amazing and the music was iconic but it was the animation, character design, use of color and craft of world-building that set Disney apart from everyone else. There was novelty in the structure of every Disney film during the Renaissance. They were made with love and care. That is no longer the case with the live remakes.
I remember seeing The Little Mermaid in the theater when I was 7, and it was quite the experience. It was the first time I think I ever felt so immersed in a movie, especially the underwater scenes. Although i never got why Ariel wanted to live on land so much, i would have happily traded places with her (I even learned to snorkel just so I could pretend I was a mermaid). And now I can't even remember the last time I felt that way, especially with Disney, they have so many rules attached to their movies now that it completely kills the immersion.
The first movie I remember seeing in a theater was actually Snow White. I think it must have been showing because of its 50th year anniversary. Gorgeous animation. I wish theaters would show them all again!
Even though I was born in 1998, the Disney renaissance is my favorite era of Disney. They paid tribute to what Disney himself created with the use of then cutting edge animation techniques while still feeling modern, despite these ones coming out years ago. I appreciate the Renaissance movies more as an adult than when I was younger because of the sincere effort put into making them. You can see why Disney was once again the king of animation again during this period, particularly from Little Mermaid to The Lion King. Ironically, because they reached such heights early on with awards, critical, audience, and box office success that few at the time were very forgiving when their output from the 2nd half of the 90s failed to live up, eventually leading to the beginning of the end for hand drawn animation. Regardless, I still love every single film in the period.
This is the era of Disney I grew up with and I cannot agree more that this was Disney at its best. Tarzan, The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and especially The Little Mermaid are favorite Disney movies of all time, and no amount of shoddy live-action remakes will change that.
The man besides him is the true disney legend. Mad respect for Howard! Disney always had "I want" songs since Snow White but only after The Little Mermaid and "Part of Your World" that it has been the formula ever since, thanks to Howard Ashman. The little mermaid, beauty and the beast and Aladdin's songs was written by Howard Ashman. Alan Menken is the one who composed the music. It's a shame that you're explaining about disney renaissance but you dont even mention Howard. It's a shame that just few of disney fans that recognized and talked about him. He was literally the reason why disney is still exist now. Howard Ashman is a legendary lyricist who made Disney rises from its downfall and started the renaissance era of Disney, who recently returned from his huge career in musical broadway theater world that time. He is the one who directing Jodi Benson to sing Part of Your World. We all know that the original Part of Your World will always be the best "I Want" song in the entire disney universe. Not just because the nostalgia vibe but also Jodi Benson was really well and carefully directed by Howard Ashman, that even her breaths, stress and pause on each syllable are really well and gently cared for. When he directed Jodi, he always said "don't focus to the song, now you're telling a story". Howard wasn't focusing of the song and what makes the song sounds good or what makes it a song but how it tells a story. That's why there are many imperfections in the song, because it's the main part of it. An important part of maintaining that type of reserved passion is also that Part of Your World does not change key. In the worlds of pop music and musical theater finishing off with a key change is a helpful tool for bringing songs to a heightened emotional level and when covering Part of Your World, some people have done exactly that but I don't really think that a key change is necessary because that wasn't the intent of the songwriters. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. In fact I think that's staying in the same key the whole time is what makes it work so well having it push and pull and eventually bring Ariel back down to where she started tells a story effectively it even ends with the same motif it began with showing the audience the life that she wants but then going back to the life that she has. You can know that Howard Ashman was a great lyricist that he can even tell a story from a song. He also made the song dynamically switching from singing to talking and vice versa but the transition between them is still unnoticeable. And it didn't happen once, literally he directed every songs in those 3 films. If you really search on youtube, there are many videos that show behind the scene of the songs making. Like in beauty and the beast, he directed Paige O'Hara the same way too. Just search "Howard Ashman demo" on youtube, you can see how may songs he sung really containts much emotion than current disney songs. Also this is how Jodi's said to him th-cam.com/video/itaEZeJoqK0/w-d-xo.html Hard to believe that this beautiful song, Part of Your World, was almost cut from the movie. Jeffrey Katzenberg hated it and thought that it not only slowed down the movie but was boring. Howard fought hard to convince Katzenberg that this song belonged in the movie. And I'm glad he did. Disney renaissance is mostly known by their songs. Before the little mermaid project, Howard gathered the whole disney crew for a meeting. He tell about broadway history to all the crew and they all were impressed at him. Fun fact: Howard did much more than write the songs on this movie, he also brought on board Jodi Benson, directed her during this song, changed an English butler crab named Clarence to be a Jamaican crab named Sebastian, wrote the dialog in the scene where Triton gives Ariel her legs, and also produced the movie with John Musker. After The Little Mermaid released and became a biggest success in box office, Howard Ashman and Alan Menken was going to make movie called Aladdin. They've come up with several of ideas and musical numbers but Jeffrey Katzenberg then dragging them to a new project, Beauty and The Beast. Unfortunately, Ashman passed away 6 month before beauty and the beast was released and that movie was dedicated to him that even in the credit scene you can see that they gaved him credit to honor him because of how important he was. After beauty and the beast released, Jeffrey then took away all of Ashman's idea and script, almost 99% of them. But sadly some of the songs were removed in the final film He is the one who bring the new element broadway musical to the movie. This is the bright spot where everyone started to watching to animated movies again, previously no one was at all interested in animated movies. That's why every single disney movie now has a song in it. Disney keep using this formula until now (but not as effective as in the renaissance) because it's Howard's legacy. You can tell how they respect Ashman that even in Beauty and The Beast credit scene, there's a statement to honor him "To our friend, Howard, who gave a mermaid her voice and a beast his soul, we will be forever grateful." Howard Ashman 1950-1991 No wonder why The Little Mermaid be the first disney animated classic who get an oscar nomination. Also Beauty and the Beast is Disney's 30th animated motion picture, a dedication to Howard Ashman before he had passed away and the only classic movie to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Animated Feature and Best Picture. He was the one who brought “I Want” song to another level! I Want song is literally every disney movies now. "In almost every musical ever written... the leading lady usually sits down on something... and sings about what she wants in life, and the audience falls in love with her and roots for her to get for the rest of the night." - Howard Ashman. He and his partner, Alan Menken, is the greatest duo that anyone have ever recognized in animated movie history. Also gain respect to Alan Menken, The little mermaid is actually his first score yet he can bring the magic with that scores. You can said that Part of Your World orchestra in the opening scene is the best choir you have ever seen and heard. Have you ever heard about the quote "There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists." -Vladimir Horowitz That quote actually referring to Ashman because he was Jewish and gay but still doesnt changed the fact that he really put his care and love the the movies It's hard not to hear the parallels to his own life. To be a gay man in that day and age (and to be literally dying of AIDS) and to wrestle with that kind of longing, that kind of loneliness, that kind of confusion, that kind of self-hatred... The message comes loud and clear even when it's not sung by a mermaid. Tremendous achievement, brilliant man. RIP. I can't imagine how much more greater and better Disney would have been doing today if this great man was still alive. It hurts to actually wonder. I greatly recommend you to watch these videos th-cam.com/video/QVHgdI8OyxA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/y04xePQaDgA/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/sr3a69Ym5t8/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/YtnsSnMIzZw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/JX0gZY9VKlM/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/egCo5Qb_fs4/w-d-xo.html Also films like Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard's documenter film in Disney+ could really help you to know more about him.
So many of my childhood memories stem from the Disney Renaissance era. Not just watching movies but everything that went along with that: the promotional McDonald's toys, the Halloween costumes, the Valentines, renting the movies from video rentals, collecting the white VHS clam cases, watching the newly added music videos with Disney Channel stars when movies were released from the Disney vault, etc. We have so many "Disney adults" because of this era. Disney will never match the art, music, and talent from this period because the social landscape that allowed these movies to thrive doesn't exist anymore.
Lion King is plagiarized from an old 60s anime cartoon called Kimba the white lion, Google it and see for yourself how what cultural thieves they are....
honestly I feel like one of the reasons Disney is the way it is is because of 3d animation. I feel like when you actually hand drew the movie you were putting a lot more on the line because its your own work not a computer. but with 3d animation I do feel like story writers have become lazy because of the lack of time and effort required. like compare princesse and the frog to modern movies
You know what's lacking from Disney? Passion. None of their movies have felt like someone wanted to tell a big grand epic on the big screen. Now it seems all they do is hire writers/directors who need to vent about how horrible their childhood was and so we get so many generational trauma movies that you go, can we have a singing princess again?
They underpay their animators and don’t seem to care about stuff like passion and creativity anymore when money is in Disney’s interest. It’s hard to be passionate about a project your doing when you are underpaid for writing/animating it.
The Disney renaissance formed my childhood. These were the Disney movies that I grew up with, with lion king being my favorite. The fox and the hound and Bambi were my favorites of the dark ages
Yep, as I am glad I was born on the DIsney Renaissance Era and why I become a big Disney fan. Plus me & Scott did a retrospective of the Renaissance back in 2020 as we did a good job and why we hold the Era in high regard. :)
The renaissance era of disney is one of the most important happened in this world making our childhood and stories that you cannot forget everything about this era is wonderful masterpieces until all of this just turn into air the reason why there was disney renaissance era is because the animation is colorful and it focus on adventure,stories and characters like beauty and the beast,aladdin,the little mermaid,tarzan and especially the lion king not just because of the protagonist but it also worked with the main antagonists just like aladdin- jafar,simba- scar,ariel-ursula,beast- gaston and tarzan- clayton This one of the main reason disney renassaince era worked because theyre not just paying attention to protagonists,journey and stories but also focuses about the villains and their evil schemes And i hope soon that disney will change on its true self and i hope wish 2023 would be the beginning of disney's fresh start
The Disney Renaissance Films, it's Animated Series Tie ins, Disney Afternoon, Saturday Morning/1Sat Morning, Disney Channel, & Toon Disney Is ALL the Disney that we needed !
The Disney reisance era was truly an magical time to grow up during as a Disney fan. Going to the cinema to see the latest classic disney movie then going to Macdonald to get a Disney theme happy meal from the latest movie. Then to be able to rent the latest Disney movie on Vhs or buy the diamond/Gold edition. And if that wasn't enough, mega drive/Snes had quite decent Disney license games...Such as Aladin, Lion king,Beauty and thr beast + Disney heavily focus on children's programs at this time, such as Darkwin duck,Ducktales,Rescue rangers,
I‘m a 90s kid… I grew up with Disney films and I vividly remember being excited about every single movie they came out with! It was just one good movie after another! And then suddenly everything changed… Animation set in… CGI had the same effect on film that social media had on people‘s relationships: Flat, no real depth, constant overstimulation and no substance…
I'm Glad i'm being a 90's era kids raised by Disney Silver era and Rennaissance era 1939 -2015 simply a glory years when you can respect Disney as a company to sell entertaiment Sure Revival era might come with releases with expensive special effects but still can't rival the heart and soul that Rennaissance era have
For me, 1939-2016 were simply glory years, although not everything is my favorite in between those years like Chicken Little for instance which was made in 2005 and that film just isn’t that great to me, but for me the last truly good Disney movie was Zootopia and that released in 2016, which was why I opted for the most recent time being 2016 instead of 2015.
Agree! Growing up when asked who my favorite princess was, I would say Belle and Pocahontas. The music is amazing, and it taught me about valuing nature.
9:14 fun fact: Pocahontas was expected to be a successful at box office. The team that worked at Pocahontas ever underestimate the Lion King but bro they were all wrong. The Lion King become the most grossing movie in the renaissance era and unfortunately Pocahontas didn't do well. But I can admit that Pocahontas' soundtrack is amazing and the animation is beautiful. Color of The Wind really handled the movie
Pocahontas isnt liked as it was based off a real person and dark history. The real Pocahontas was kidnaped when she was a minor and raped by the english and forced to marry john smith, she also was already married and her native husband was killed when he tried to save her and the english used her as a pawn against her tribe. She was also forcefully baptized and forcedly impregnated and taken to England to be paraded around, she then died to diseases from the AfroEuroAsia countries and to add insult to injury her child was abandon by her husband john smith who didnt actually love her. Disney lied about history and tried to make a love story based of a child rape victim, fuck that movie
So do I. Maybe Disney was more liberal by the Renaissance era but at least the Renaissance films were fun & entertaining & they weren’t preachy unlike the junk Disney puts out now
I loved the pre-renaissance era movies like Aristocats, Bambi, Fox&Hound and Oliver&Co. From the renaissance, Lion King, Tarzan, Hercules, Mulan and Hunchback are my favourites. Afterwards, I really appreciated Emperor's New Groove and Lilo&Stitch. The more recent 3D animated Disney movies are so much more forgettable to me, because while looking stunning, they all look and feel the same. I feel like the movies are missing individual identities that make them stand out and make me want to watch them. Yeah, I liked Moana, Rapunzel, Encanto and the first Frozen (with Rapunzel being my fav). But they are all so similar in style and execution. And the remakes? I hate most of them, thanks.
To be honest, I didn't think the so-called Revival era was as great as people made it out to be. Sure, it was Disney bouncing back after their second dark age, and the most of the animated films we got were great in their own right, it felt more like a upturn than a genuine renaissance. Like compare the real life Renaissance era to the Classical Greco-Roman era they imitated. I like to compare the 90s Disney Renaissance and the golden age of the 40s-50s. They were eras that were not just great, but culturally significant in that they could stand on their own as classics and define a generation. I don't get that same feeling from the Revival era. It feels more like Disney just so happened to make a few great films that were finacially succesful than truly got back on their feet. To me, the Revival era is more comparable to the Postmodern era, an era that's trying to reach new heights, but can't quite match the iconicness of previous eras. What, with repetitive and unconvincing tropes, being tongue-in-cheek as opposed to honest, catering to cultural trends and ideas rather than timeless themes and stories, indistinct artstyle, and, most telling of all, abandoning traditional hand-drawn in favor of CGI and live-action remakes of their classics, this so-called revival era is hardly in the same ball-game as the Renaissance in my opinion. Not helping is that after Moana, I feel things just fell of completely, to the point where after a long streak of keeping up with every mainline Disney film, I just gave up.
They need to bring back real villains. Villains were one of the best parts of classic Disney. Camp, terrifying villains. Ursula, gaston, scar. All amazing villains that you hate to love
Back then Disney thought “what do people want to see?” then hired the best of the best. Now it’s telling people what they want and meant to teach lessons people don’t want to learn and brought to you by diversity hires.
I'll stand by Pocahontas until I die. I'm not saying it's a perfect film or story, I get it's problematic in so many ways. But it really was formative for me as to how I see the world. It was what taught me what hate can look like, that different is literally only that...different, that we're all connected, that nature has its own special powers. It truly taught me the power of empathy and compassion so I can't knock it very hard for teaching me how to not be racist, but also anti-racist. I'll argue Hercules is the weakest of the bunch, and I suggest watching Lindsay Ellis' video on that topic, but I still love it to death for being the fun and hilarious romp that it is :)
pocahontas was one of my favorites too as a kid, if i never knew you (which had a movie version that never made it to the actual theatrical cut) is such a beautiful song
Boy was I lucky to have grown up during that era of Disney. Beauty and the Beast will always be the GOAT in my book (plus the reason I became a movie fan in the first place) and I totally agree that Disney peaked with the Lion King. Aladdin and Hercules have always been great light-hearted entertainment for me too.
I'm glad I was born in 1991 to experience most of this. When it was about telling a good stories with the best artists, not wokism with lack of an interesting story line.
That eagle ride sequence needs to be given its own video for how it's some of the most amazing animation Disney has ever made but doesn't really fit with the renaissance era.
Kinda. There was still some ideology, just that it was way more toned down, nuanced, and better told, than today's radical obtuse messes. Still, beneath the great good that was being raised by these movies, some underlying themes remain: Little Mermaid: home is boring, the stranger is good, change your body to feel good (trans encouragement btw) Beauty and the Beast: the beast is good, the hunter that keeps the town safe is bad Aladdin: thief and poor is good, authority and elite is bad, trickster genie and by extension magical practices are actually good Lion King: perhaps the best and most real one; but still, has a naturalist outlook that somehow collides with anthropomorphic animal society (vegan encouragement btw) Pocahontas: very innacurate retelling trying to portray a love story to hide a more brutal conquest - but it was fun and colorful, unlike El Dorado (which was barely less inaccurate, but still whitewashing, and boring instead) Hercules: perhaps on the more fun and innocuous side, but still pretty inaccurate retelling of quite more complex Greek myths Hunchback: an adaptation of anticlerical propaganda, enough said Tarzan: animals good, men bad, plus whitewashes original stories where Tarzan fought monkeys and even black natives deemed inferior to him. If anything, we can see how the kids that watched these movies grew up to make the current ones (of course, their troubled yet less radical teen 00s, as well as elders, and all other influences, also helped, but that's another combox post for another day)
Personally I think one of the reasons why the Disney Renaissance flourished was because it took traditional ideas and modern ideas and put them together in a way that works. The new artists and writers worked with old ones from Walt Disney’s time and together they compromised, because both have something beautiful and meaningful to offer. But nowadays, these movies only care about incorporating what’s modern and throwing away anything traditional. Because apparently anything from the past is bad. But it’s not. Yes some views are outdated but not all of them. Not things like romance, and fairy tales, and chivalry and expressive animation, and bright color and dark shadows and warmth. These elements were used to help bring new modern ideas, views, and culture into light and it worked. To me, without some elements of tradition, a Disney movie can’t work. I’m sorry.
That is exactly how I feel about Disney in a nutshell. The Renaissance era is my favorite Disney era b/c that’s what I grew up with. You can tell during the Renaissance era there was respect for Walt’s vision whereas now people at Disney don’t even give Walt a second thought. So sad 😞
@@arielanderic I know right. Rest In Peace Walt Disney, you didn’t care about money, all you cared about was telling a good story that would make people smile. I’ll never forget your vision or the hard effort and heart you put into your work.
@@Rose-xy5pe someone told me the only good Disney movies that were made was when Walt Disney was alive. I think that’s narrow minded. As much as I appreciate Walt Disney, my favorite Disney movies were made after Walt Disney died. My favorite Disney movie as you can probably tell by my icon is The Little Mermaid (original). My 2nd favorite is the original Lion King & my 3rd favorite is the original Beauty & the Beast
@@arielanderic Well funfact Walt did want to adapt Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, so in a way he had some influence even after his death. Btw my favorite movies are Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Snow White, Bambi, and The Little Mermaid.
@@arielanderic Also Walt had dignity and respect. If a movie flopped, he just accepted it, picked himself back up, and tried again. He didn’t blame the audience or write fake positive reviews. Unlike these idiotic, brats in adult bodies.
I was born in 1994 and definitely grew up with the Renaissance Era; I still have my VHS collection of The Lion King (both the original and sequel), Mulan, Hercules, and Tarzan
Being born in 83, the renaissance hit when I was a kid. Aladdin and The Lion King were HUGE!! Everything up until Tarzan, Hercules and Treasure Planet, which was about the time I stopped keeping up with Disney cartoons.
I was born in 1996 this is era I grew up with because I used to watch the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King and Aladdin and Mulan and Tarzan. Because their were way better then those CG cartoons movies. Because I wish I can go back and be a kid again
Pocahontas will always be my top Disney film. The animation, the music, the story! Simply beautiful! Pocahontas, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Lion King and Hunchback were it for me growing up.
It annoys me how people want to act like Pocahontas doesn’t exist because of this era of virtue signaling. Since the beginning of time, humans have been taking real stories and making folklore out of them. Pocahontas was never marketed as a historical documentary. It’s a love story with a big message. Doesn’t matter what skin color you have, we are all the same. It’s one of the most beautiful Disney movies with incredible animation and moving music. Time to start appreciating it.
Exactly I would I just was talking about that on his post like why you acting like Pocahontas didn't exist in the Renaissance era that it wasn't celebrated as a good movie beforehand. My damn stop being a shame move Pocahontas Pocahontas look good movie regardless of historical context and still a damn good movie music was beautiful animation was on point. It's sad how Disney used to celebrate the character before the 2010s and now barely even discuss her smh
Pocahontas was Romeo and Juliet with an indigenous/settlers twist... on the Montagues and the Capulets. ... As Lion King was Hamlet with Lions. Strangely enough the Lion King 2 was the same plot as Pocahontas... also Romeo and Juliet, but with Lions. With a message about overcoming racism, and pointless violence that breeds more violence. The problem with Pocahontas was they stupidly chose to name her after a real life person rather than generic indigenous tribe.
That's a brillient idea. Especially for the Disney Princesses and how people analyze these characters and trash them for being damsels in distress (Well, we all can agree that The first 3 classic Disney Princesses, Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora, are your stereotypical damsels in distress because they are passive in their own stories).
It was great back then because three words, “hand drawn animation.” Also creativity. I think creativity kinda died over the years. Although animation has been really good lately with different companies.
Thanks for not hating on Pocahontas, but just saying it was weaker. It wasn't a bad film. If it was released during the dark ages? I would've been like, a huge success by comparison, someone mentioned once. It's true.
Fun Fact: Jason Weaver, the singer who performed "I can't wait to be king" got an offer of $2 million to do the song, but his mother stepped in to change that deal and got him $100,000 with royalties instead. 👍👍 😁
I see a lot of people thinking Disney management was responsible for the Disney Renaissance, if you watch the behind the scenes of all these movies you'll learn that all of them were made "despise" and not "thanks to" the bosses. It were the artists who made these movies great.
And thus it’s only logical that Disney goes back to basics and if I am not mistaken, we might see that with Wish but we won’t know for sure until we see it.
Treasure planet and Atlantis are in my personal best, a simple adventure. Rennaissance are my childhood and my favourites happened in my make believe/adventure phase. I'm' really glad I grown up in that era and not with Frozen decade and such. After looking at a list of their movies there aren't even 5 I think are good in the last decade, if we add Pixar now we can triple the ammount but this is ridiculous.
I find myself gravitating more towards the underrated gems such Tarzan, Hercules and Notre Dame. The setting, action and themes of those three are a bit overlooked.
The Renaissance era was done by talented artists and story-tellers. The Love & Passion put into those masterpieces was evident. Counter it with the modern day, Disney...it's completely opposite. There's hardly any love OR passion put into the current movies. It's mostly about an ideological agenda. It's weird to see Disney as a shadow of it's former self 😢
@@markellhawthorne2921 That's only ONE movie lol That's nothing to brag about. Disney has had so many bombs lately...I'm surprised the studio is still able to stand 🥱
Personally frollo in my opinion was one of, if not the greatest villain Disney ever made. He was evil and got his comeuppance, but also had times of pause when he second guess his actions, but still thought he was doing the right thing. Seems like most other times, Disney tends to just make them evil and not care/love it, or go overboard with the sympathetic part.
Honestly, most of the best Disney films came from the 90s and the 00s. If only the heads of Disney now would take a page from what made them brilliant back then, we would actually see a return to form for the studio
Well hold on show a little bit respectful for Pocahontas. Like I know people want to try to get mad about the historical context of Pocahontas character but let's be honest that movie was gorgeous and the soundtrack was amazing like let's stop trying to pretend like Pocahontas was in a good movie Just because it didn't meet the expectations of Lion King doesn't mean that it was a terrible movie I'm so tired of everybody ignoring that movie or disrespecting it because some people want to cry about their feelings about what happened to the real Pocahontas like a lot of these stories are based off of fairy tales in real life people but come on now a little bit respect for Pocahontas. Lord knows Disney disrespect her nowadays
No pun intended but Howard Ashman and Alan Menken really were an instrumental part of the reason why the Disney renaissance even exists can we agree on that
If its ok i would put rapunzel in this era cuz its as great as these movies i love little mermaid aladdin and beauty and the beast sm they are the balst i love hunch back of notre dame too same with tarzan tbh i love all lol even the lowest films like the rescuers 2 and pocahantas were amazing i hope disney would return to a new era like renassaince i want something like tangled and moana same with all the renassaince era movies
The little mermaid is beautiful animation, the songs & kingdom ❤ 2 having 3 songs, charaters pops.2 downhill is...,Ariel's made a deal the Sea witch & boradway movie. Beauty and the Beast & enchantment Christmas are 2 only good it's wasn't the jungle book its best picture
They went on to have less successful movies like Atlantis, Treasure planet and the Emperor's new Groove... Eventually it was completion from Pixar (with 3D animation) and Dreamworks that took away Disney's stranglehold on kids entertainment. They had to compete for the artists and other personnel, and lost profits. Which negatively impacted what they could do in the future.
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The renaissance era is honestly what made me love Disney a lot more, it’s sad to see what they’ve become now
The 2010's weren't so bad
I've gotta ask: which revival-era films did you not like? I loved BH6, Frozen, Moana, Zootopoa, Tangled, etc.
@@OpticalSorcereragree with you except BH6
On the bright side, that might lead to a new renaissance
2010s weren't bad (except late 2010s)
One of the best moments in Disney history, I don’t think Disney can achieve stuff like this ever again.
If they truly wanted to they could, they just need to stop hiring activists who only ever want to preach "the message" and actually return to beautiful, meaningful stories again.
That's because every era is unique; I'm sure there were people who grew up loving the silver/bronze age and despising the renaissance age. People who grew up with the revival era will wish Disney would go back to that in a few decades, I'm sure.
At least your not saying never………….
Expecting it to happen in the same way it happened before was the problem in the first place.
@@RedRoseSeptember22 As if those are are mutually exclusive? Meaningful stories literally have a message.That's the whole point of a story. A message, a lesson, etc.
It’s the way Disney wants to act like it’s allergic to 2D animation in cinema…they can make both 3D and 2D films at the same time…
2d is too expensive for them these days apparently
@@LikeTheNumeral They had all the talent and resources they needed to put out a new 2D animated movie almost every year in the 90s up into the 2000s with a perfectly working infrastructure to do it with, and they just hastily threw it all away. This has always been all on them.
@@nicksorenson940 they did indeed. And then they stopped giving the quality storytellers any kind of platform. Every single live action Disney movie other than the Cinderella remake has been absolute trash
Winnie the Pooh 2011 flopping as bad as it did is why.
@@LikeTheNumeral lol, they are rich so they can spend again on 2d animation! Disney is just soulless right now and is cash grab
It's crazy to think there was a time that Disney wasn't doing animated Broadway musicals when that's what most people now think of when they hear the word Disney.
Was there though? I mean, even Snow White was a musical.
@@blinkowarner3117 Previous Disney films had songs, yeah, but nothing like until The Little Mermaid and everything that came after
@@GabePlaysYT Plus, other animated films before the Disney Renaissance weren't trying to emulate Disney's musical style. While some were musicals, the songs and score could still be considered their own without sounding too much like Disney. But then the Disney Renaissance happened and then in the 90s almost all animated musical films try to emulate Disney's score style, especially with the Broadway-style.
Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame will forever be one of my most favorite pieces of fiction, truly a masterpiece.
It’d be even better without the goofy gargoyles. They kinda break the tone. But beautiful movie nonetheless, probably one of my favorites from Disney too!
It really is. Cuz you dont find it as exciting as a kid, then you rewatch it and realize what a masterpiece it was later. It tries to show young kids the cruelty and yet also beauty in life.
"Hunchback" is a great film and has one of the very best beginnings and endings to a movie I've ever seen (first 6 mins, last 6 mins).
If they remake, Esmeralda is trans; Quasimodo is gay and in love with the blond soldier guy forgot his name, but yeah. Oh but old white man is still pervy ofc
@@milliemino8424 someone on reddit posted the movie without any gargoyle scenes - it was beautiful.
it is shocking how decades ago we got films with better art/animation, great character motivations and arcs and they are able to be subtle with alot of stories as well.
And now, they've lost so much originality and creativity in favor of cranking out nothing but soulless live action remakes that always turn out to be inferior versions of the old films. They have no reason to exist, other than banking off of nostalgia, nothing else.
Agreed. And they had universal stories that spoke to everyone. Not just one group. And the preaching was a lot less subtle. Just look at 90s Mulan. She just cared about saving her dad. Not making a statement about gender.
The little mermaid, beauty and the beast, Aladdin, treasure planet, Tarzan and Hercules are my favorite Disney movies because they all have a theme of finding oneself and they have villains that actually challenge that!
Treasure planet is a low film for disney that they miss its truley a underrated gem that shines for dacades i love atlantis the lost empire too that is awsome as well but heavily underrated
So glad I grow up around this era of Disney I remember watching the lion King VHS over and over until it worn out 😂
Same ^^
Me too but with little mermaid and aladdin lol
Same but with winnie the pooh too and also using cd and dvds
Same :)
Same but also with Hercules, Beauty and the Beast, and Hunchback (and Treasure Planet) and also using DVDs
Despite how much effort those awful soulless remakes tried so hard to replace the originals to earn cheap cash, the one really good thing coming from these garbage is that they convince me to appreciate how wonderful and great the original where. It's so ironic.
During the renaissance, I think the mindset of Disney was just… different. They cared about the craftsmanship and love put into each story they told. It was a time where the company itself felt like it cared… not so much anymore, I think. Hardly anyone watched Strange New World, because it felt like it was rehashing old “generational trauma” tropes that Encanto and Turning Red already DID, but executed better imo. The company likely saw the success of Encanto and said “yeah, generational trauma works!” And rehashed it. Again and again.
At least Wish is gonna be something kinda-new? Well, for modern Disney anyway. We’ll see how that goes :)
Just don’t tell that to a disney park fan, the 90s were mostly broken promises on that side of Disney business 😂
No they were still money first, but they were just better
Lets not forget. The storytelling was amazing and the music was iconic but it was the animation, character design, use of color and craft of world-building that set Disney apart from everyone else. There was novelty in the structure of every Disney film during the Renaissance. They were made with love and care. That is no longer the case with the live remakes.
I remember seeing The Little Mermaid in the theater when I was 7, and it was quite the experience. It was the first time I think I ever felt so immersed in a movie, especially the underwater scenes. Although i never got why Ariel wanted to live on land so much, i would have happily traded places with her (I even learned to snorkel just so I could pretend I was a mermaid). And now I can't even remember the last time I felt that way, especially with Disney, they have so many rules attached to their movies now that it completely kills the immersion.
Ariel was a feminist 😅
@@lukewalken1316 Ariel was an egalitarian -- BIG difference, especially nowadays.
@@IDontWantThisStupidHandle yeah a feminist is more of a militant
The first movie I remember seeing in a theater was actually Snow White. I think it must have been showing because of its 50th year anniversary. Gorgeous animation. I wish theaters would show them all again!
If only Walt Disney himself was alive during the Renaissance era.
@Satanic_Psychopath What do you think Walt Disney would’ve done to them?
For a first, I think he wouldn’t have allowed a Rescuers sequel.
If Walt was alive today he’d shut down his company
@@animebrat76 Ouch. But yeah, you’re right.
He would be so proud of the big 4 (little mermaid beauty and the beast Aladdin lion king)
They probs would be a tad darker
Even though I was born in 1998, the Disney renaissance is my favorite era of Disney. They paid tribute to what Disney himself created with the use of then cutting edge animation techniques while still feeling modern, despite these ones coming out years ago. I appreciate the Renaissance movies more as an adult than when I was younger because of the sincere effort put into making them. You can see why Disney was once again the king of animation again during this period, particularly from Little Mermaid to The Lion King. Ironically, because they reached such heights early on with awards, critical, audience, and box office success that few at the time were very forgiving when their output from the 2nd half of the 90s failed to live up, eventually leading to the beginning of the end for hand drawn animation. Regardless, I still love every single film in the period.
@totogamer6735, I grew up during the Disney Renaissance era, these are all my favorite films for the very reasons you’ve mentioned in your comment.
I was born in 1991, so my childhood essentially revolved around the Disney Renaissance and many of these movies bring back some great memories.
This is the era of Disney I grew up with and I cannot agree more that this was Disney at its best. Tarzan, The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and especially The Little Mermaid are favorite Disney movies of all time, and no amount of shoddy live-action remakes will change that.
Walt Disney would be proud of this era
Yes for sure! There was much more respect for Walt’s vision back then. Nowadays the respect for Walt’s vision doesn’t exist 😔
It was magical. That "magic" wasn't found after the Disney renaissance. Not even Disney "frozen" had that.
The man besides him is the true disney legend. Mad respect for Howard! Disney always had "I want" songs since Snow White but only after The Little Mermaid and "Part of Your World" that it has been the formula ever since, thanks to Howard Ashman. The little mermaid, beauty and the beast and Aladdin's songs was written by Howard Ashman. Alan Menken is the one who composed the music. It's a shame that you're explaining about disney renaissance but you dont even mention Howard. It's a shame that just few of disney fans that recognized and talked about him. He was literally the reason why disney is still exist now. Howard Ashman is a legendary lyricist who made Disney rises from its downfall and started the renaissance era of Disney, who recently returned from his huge career in musical broadway theater world that time. He is the one who directing Jodi Benson to sing Part of Your World. We all know that the original Part of Your World will always be the best "I Want" song in the entire disney universe. Not just because the nostalgia vibe but also Jodi Benson was really well and carefully directed by Howard Ashman, that even her breaths, stress and pause on each syllable are really well and gently cared for. When he directed Jodi, he always said "don't focus to the song, now you're telling a story". Howard wasn't focusing of the song and what makes the song sounds good or what makes it a song but how it tells a story. That's why there are many imperfections in the song, because it's the main part of it. An important part of maintaining that type of reserved passion is also that Part of Your World does not change key. In the worlds of pop music and musical theater finishing off with a key change is a helpful tool for bringing songs to a heightened emotional level and when covering Part of Your World, some people have done exactly that but I don't really think that a key change is necessary because that wasn't the intent of the songwriters. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. Howard said that intensity is better than enormous in this song. In fact I think that's staying in the same key the whole time is what makes it work so well having it push and pull and eventually bring Ariel back down to where she started tells a story effectively it even ends with the same motif it began with showing the audience the life that she wants but then going back to the life that she has. You can know that Howard Ashman was a great lyricist that he can even tell a story from a song. He also made the song dynamically switching from singing to talking and vice versa but the transition between them is still unnoticeable. And it didn't happen once, literally he directed every songs in those 3 films. If you really search on youtube, there are many videos that show behind the scene of the songs making. Like in beauty and the beast, he directed Paige O'Hara the same way too. Just search "Howard Ashman demo" on youtube, you can see how may songs he sung really containts much emotion than current disney songs.
Also this is how Jodi's said to him
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Hard to believe that this beautiful song, Part of Your World, was almost cut from the movie. Jeffrey Katzenberg hated it and thought that it not only slowed down the movie but was boring. Howard fought hard to convince Katzenberg that this song belonged in the movie. And I'm glad he did. Disney renaissance is mostly known by their songs. Before the little mermaid project, Howard gathered the whole disney crew for a meeting. He tell about broadway history to all the crew and they all were impressed at him. Fun fact: Howard did much more than write the songs on this movie, he also brought on board Jodi Benson, directed her during this song, changed an English butler crab named Clarence to be a Jamaican crab named Sebastian, wrote the dialog in the scene where Triton gives Ariel her legs, and also produced the movie with John Musker.
After The Little Mermaid released and became a biggest success in box office, Howard Ashman and Alan Menken was going to make movie called Aladdin. They've come up with several of ideas and musical numbers but Jeffrey Katzenberg then dragging them to a new project, Beauty and The Beast. Unfortunately, Ashman passed away 6 month before beauty and the beast was released and that movie was dedicated to him that even in the credit scene you can see that they gaved him credit to honor him because of how important he was. After beauty and the beast released, Jeffrey then took away all of Ashman's idea and script, almost 99% of them. But sadly some of the songs were removed in the final film
He is the one who bring the new element broadway musical to the movie. This is the bright spot where everyone started to watching to animated movies again, previously no one was at all interested in animated movies. That's why every single disney movie now has a song in it. Disney keep using this formula until now (but not as effective as in the renaissance) because it's Howard's legacy. You can tell how they respect Ashman that even in Beauty and The Beast credit scene, there's a statement to honor him
"To our friend, Howard,
who gave a mermaid her voice
and a beast his soul,
we will be forever grateful."
Howard Ashman
1950-1991
No wonder why The Little Mermaid be the first disney animated classic who get an oscar nomination. Also Beauty and the Beast is Disney's 30th animated motion picture, a dedication to Howard Ashman before he had passed away and the only classic movie to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Animated Feature and Best Picture.
He was the one who brought “I Want” song to another level! I Want song is literally every disney movies now. "In almost every musical ever written... the leading lady usually sits down on something... and sings about what she wants in life, and the audience falls in love with her and roots for her to get for the rest of the night." - Howard Ashman.
He and his partner, Alan Menken, is the greatest duo that anyone have ever recognized in animated movie history. Also gain respect to Alan Menken, The little mermaid is actually his first score yet he can bring the magic with that scores. You can said that Part of Your World orchestra in the opening scene is the best choir you have ever seen and heard.
Have you ever heard about the quote
"There are three kinds of pianists: Jewish pianists, homosexual pianists, and bad pianists."
-Vladimir Horowitz
That quote actually referring to Ashman because he was Jewish and gay but still doesnt changed the fact that he really put his care and love the the movies
It's hard not to hear the parallels to his own life. To be a gay man in that day and age (and to be literally dying of AIDS) and to wrestle with that kind of longing, that kind of loneliness, that kind of confusion, that kind of self-hatred... The message comes loud and clear even when it's not sung by a mermaid. Tremendous achievement, brilliant man. RIP.
I can't imagine how much more greater and better Disney would have been doing today if this great man was still alive. It hurts to actually wonder.
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Also films like Waking Sleeping Beauty and Howard's documenter film in Disney+ could really help you to know more about him.
So many of my childhood memories stem from the Disney Renaissance era. Not just watching movies but everything that went along with that: the promotional McDonald's toys, the Halloween costumes, the Valentines, renting the movies from video rentals, collecting the white VHS clam cases, watching the newly added music videos with Disney Channel stars when movies were released from the Disney vault, etc.
We have so many "Disney adults" because of this era. Disney will never match the art, music, and talent from this period because the social landscape that allowed these movies to thrive doesn't exist anymore.
Lion King: the best movie of the Renaissance
Hunchback of Notre Dame: the darkest movie of the Renaissance
Lion King is plagiarized from an old 60s anime cartoon called Kimba the white lion, Google it and see for yourself how what cultural thieves they are....
honestly I feel like one of the reasons Disney is the way it is is because of 3d animation. I feel like when you actually hand drew the movie you were putting a lot more on the line because its your own work not a computer. but with 3d animation I do feel like story writers have become lazy because of the lack of time and effort required. like compare princesse and the frog to modern movies
You know what's lacking from Disney? Passion. None of their movies have felt like someone wanted to tell a big grand epic on the big screen. Now it seems all they do is hire writers/directors who need to vent about how horrible their childhood was and so we get so many generational trauma movies that you go, can we have a singing princess again?
They underpay their animators and don’t seem to care about stuff like passion and creativity anymore when money is in Disney’s interest. It’s hard to be passionate about a project your doing when you are underpaid for writing/animating it.
For Lion King remember to give credit to Lebo M and his choir group, they elevated the music!
The best era of disney
But sometimes we want a different era
The Disney renaissance formed my childhood. These were the Disney movies that I grew up with, with lion king being my favorite. The fox and the hound and Bambi were my favorites of the dark ages
Yep, as I am glad I was born on the DIsney Renaissance Era and why I become a big Disney fan.
Plus me & Scott did a retrospective of the Renaissance back in 2020 as we did a good job and why we hold the Era in high regard. :)
The Little Mermaid started the Renaissance.....and now a live action remake of it is coming in 4 days
Yup, and Howard Ashman is still rolling in his grave to see what his perfect animated Disney classics have become. :(
The renaissance era of disney is one of the most important happened in this world making our childhood and stories that you cannot forget everything about this era is wonderful masterpieces until all of this just turn into air the reason why there was disney renaissance era is because the animation is colorful and it focus on adventure,stories and characters like beauty and the beast,aladdin,the little mermaid,tarzan and especially the lion king not just because of the protagonist but it also worked with the main antagonists just like aladdin- jafar,simba- scar,ariel-ursula,beast- gaston and tarzan- clayton
This one of the main reason disney renassaince era worked because theyre not just paying attention to protagonists,journey and stories but also focuses about the villains and their evil schemes
And i hope soon that disney will change on its true self and i hope wish 2023 would be the beginning of disney's fresh start
The Disney Renaissance Films, it's Animated Series Tie ins, Disney Afternoon, Saturday Morning/1Sat Morning, Disney Channel, & Toon Disney
Is ALL the Disney that we needed !
The Disney reisance era was truly an magical time to grow up during as a Disney fan.
Going to the cinema to see the latest classic disney movie then going to Macdonald to get a Disney theme happy meal from the latest movie.
Then to be able to rent the latest Disney movie on Vhs or buy the diamond/Gold edition.
And if that wasn't enough, mega drive/Snes had quite decent Disney license games...Such as Aladin, Lion king,Beauty and thr beast
+ Disney heavily focus on children's programs at this time, such as Darkwin duck,Ducktales,Rescue rangers,
I‘m a 90s kid… I grew up with Disney films and I vividly remember being excited about every single movie they came out with! It was just one good movie after another!
And then suddenly everything changed… Animation set in… CGI had the same effect on film that social media had on people‘s relationships: Flat, no real depth, constant overstimulation and no substance…
I'm Glad i'm being a 90's era kids raised by Disney Silver era and Rennaissance era
1939 -2015 simply a glory years when you can respect Disney as a company to sell entertaiment
Sure Revival era might come with releases with expensive special effects but still can't rival the heart and soul that Rennaissance era have
For me, 1939-2016 were simply glory years, although not everything is my favorite in between those years like Chicken Little for instance which was made in 2005 and that film just isn’t that great to me, but for me the last truly good Disney movie was Zootopia and that released in 2016, which was why I opted for the most recent time being 2016 instead of 2015.
BRO TAKE A REST HOW ARE YOU SO CONSISTENT WITH YOUR QUALITY AND QUANTITY ARE YOU NOT BURNT OUT? WHAT ENERGY DRINKS ARE YOU TAKING?
I’m really sick of people acting as if Pocahontas wasn’t an amazing film with an amazing soundtrack and powerful messaging
Agree! Growing up when asked who my favorite princess was, I would say Belle and Pocahontas. The music is amazing, and it taught me about valuing nature.
9:14 fun fact: Pocahontas was expected to be a successful at box office. The team that worked at Pocahontas ever underestimate the Lion King but bro they were all wrong. The Lion King become the most grossing movie in the renaissance era and unfortunately Pocahontas didn't do well. But I can admit that Pocahontas' soundtrack is amazing and the animation is beautiful. Color of The Wind really handled the movie
@@nut4ku Personally I think they are both stellar films. Both have great soundtracks and you can really see the care that went into making them
Uhhhh
I mean, it’s ok
Pocahontas isnt liked as it was based off a real person and dark history. The real Pocahontas was kidnaped when she was a minor and raped by the english and forced to marry john smith, she also was already married and her native husband was killed when he tried to save her and the english used her as a pawn against her tribe. She was also forcefully baptized and forcedly impregnated and taken to England to be paraded around, she then died to diseases from the AfroEuroAsia countries and to add insult to injury her child was abandon by her husband john smith who didnt actually love her.
Disney lied about history and tried to make a love story based of a child rape victim, fuck that movie
I thoroughly miss this Disney
So do I. Maybe Disney was more liberal by the Renaissance era but at least the Renaissance films were fun & entertaining & they weren’t preachy unlike the junk Disney puts out now
I loved the pre-renaissance era movies like Aristocats, Bambi, Fox&Hound and Oliver&Co. From the renaissance, Lion King, Tarzan, Hercules, Mulan and Hunchback are my favourites. Afterwards, I really appreciated Emperor's New Groove and Lilo&Stitch. The more recent 3D animated Disney movies are so much more forgettable to me, because while looking stunning, they all look and feel the same. I feel like the movies are missing individual identities that make them stand out and make me want to watch them. Yeah, I liked Moana, Rapunzel, Encanto and the first Frozen (with Rapunzel being my fav). But they are all so similar in style and execution. And the remakes? I hate most of them, thanks.
To be honest, I didn't think the so-called Revival era was as great as people made it out to be. Sure, it was Disney bouncing back after their second dark age, and the most of the animated films we got were great in their own right, it felt more like a upturn than a genuine renaissance.
Like compare the real life Renaissance era to the Classical Greco-Roman era they imitated. I like to compare the 90s Disney Renaissance and the golden age of the 40s-50s. They were eras that were not just great, but culturally significant in that they could stand on their own as classics and define a generation. I don't get that same feeling from the Revival era. It feels more like Disney just so happened to make a few great films that were finacially succesful than truly got back on their feet. To me, the Revival era is more comparable to the Postmodern era, an era that's trying to reach new heights, but can't quite match the iconicness of previous eras. What, with repetitive and unconvincing tropes, being tongue-in-cheek as opposed to honest, catering to cultural trends and ideas rather than timeless themes and stories, indistinct artstyle, and, most telling of all, abandoning traditional hand-drawn in favor of CGI and live-action remakes of their classics, this so-called revival era is hardly in the same ball-game as the Renaissance in my opinion. Not helping is that after Moana, I feel things just fell of completely, to the point where after a long streak of keeping up with every mainline Disney film, I just gave up.
They need to bring back real villains. Villains were one of the best parts of classic Disney. Camp, terrifying villains. Ursula, gaston, scar. All amazing villains that you hate to love
Regarding Pocahontas: speak for yourself. I still love this movie so much
Thank you!
Back then Disney thought “what do people want to see?” then hired the best of the best. Now it’s telling people what they want and meant to teach lessons people don’t want to learn and brought to you by diversity hires.
I'll stand by Pocahontas until I die. I'm not saying it's a perfect film or story, I get it's problematic in so many ways. But it really was formative for me as to how I see the world. It was what taught me what hate can look like, that different is literally only that...different, that we're all connected, that nature has its own special powers. It truly taught me the power of empathy and compassion so I can't knock it very hard for teaching me how to not be racist, but also anti-racist.
I'll argue Hercules is the weakest of the bunch, and I suggest watching Lindsay Ellis' video on that topic, but I still love it to death for being the fun and hilarious romp that it is :)
Finally someone who loves Pocahontas and understood it’s message as I did! Pocahontas was my movie growing up! I wore that VHS out! 😅
@@samroberts82 Pretty sure I did too...man, I loved the 90s, I miss it a lot
For what it did pochahontas delivered it's just that it wasnt as fun
pocahontas was one of my favorites too as a kid, if i never knew you (which had a movie version that never made it to the actual theatrical cut) is such a beautiful song
Problematic how?
Boy was I lucky to have grown up during that era of Disney. Beauty and the Beast will always be the GOAT in my book (plus the reason I became a movie fan in the first place) and I totally agree that Disney peaked with the Lion King. Aladdin and Hercules have always been great light-hearted entertainment for me too.
disneys A team is kinda/mostly incompetent
and the B team are actually good at doing what they do
I'm glad I was born in 1991 to experience most of this. When it was about telling a good stories with the best artists, not wokism with lack of an interesting story line.
I miss Vincent Price
I liked Down Under more than the first actually. It seemed more adventurous- more to see
Don’t worry, we got Vincent Price’s modern incarnation: Tim Curry.
That eagle ride sequence needs to be given its own video for how it's some of the most amazing animation Disney has ever made but doesn't really fit with the renaissance era.
I love how your speak your soul. You grew up with the real Disney morals and it shines through. 💜
The reason it works because they focused on story arch and character instead of political ideology
Kinda. There was still some ideology, just that it was way more toned down, nuanced, and better told, than today's radical obtuse messes.
Still, beneath the great good that was being raised by these movies, some underlying themes remain:
Little Mermaid: home is boring, the stranger is good, change your body to feel good (trans encouragement btw)
Beauty and the Beast: the beast is good, the hunter that keeps the town safe is bad
Aladdin: thief and poor is good, authority and elite is bad, trickster genie and by extension magical practices are actually good
Lion King: perhaps the best and most real one; but still, has a naturalist outlook that somehow collides with anthropomorphic animal society (vegan encouragement btw)
Pocahontas: very innacurate retelling trying to portray a love story to hide a more brutal conquest - but it was fun and colorful, unlike El Dorado (which was barely less inaccurate, but still whitewashing, and boring instead)
Hercules: perhaps on the more fun and innocuous side, but still pretty inaccurate retelling of quite more complex Greek myths
Hunchback: an adaptation of anticlerical propaganda, enough said
Tarzan: animals good, men bad, plus whitewashes original stories where Tarzan fought monkeys and even black natives deemed inferior to him.
If anything, we can see how the kids that watched these movies grew up to make the current ones (of course, their troubled yet less radical teen 00s, as well as elders, and all other influences, also helped, but that's another combox post for another day)
Tarzan wasn’t the end of the Renaissance, Treasure Planet was
Personally I think one of the reasons why the Disney Renaissance flourished was because it took traditional ideas and modern ideas and put them together in a way that works. The new artists and writers worked with old ones from Walt Disney’s time and together they compromised, because both have something beautiful and meaningful to offer. But nowadays, these movies only care about incorporating what’s modern and throwing away anything traditional. Because apparently anything from the past is bad.
But it’s not. Yes some views are outdated but not all of them. Not things like romance, and fairy tales, and chivalry and expressive animation, and bright color and dark shadows and warmth. These elements were used to help bring new modern ideas, views, and culture into light and it worked.
To me, without some elements of tradition, a Disney movie can’t work. I’m sorry.
That is exactly how I feel about Disney in a nutshell. The Renaissance era is my favorite Disney era b/c that’s what I grew up with.
You can tell during the Renaissance era there was respect for Walt’s vision whereas now people at Disney don’t even give Walt a second thought. So sad 😞
@@arielanderic I know right. Rest In Peace Walt Disney, you didn’t care about money, all you cared about was telling a good story that would make people smile. I’ll never forget your vision or the hard effort and heart you put into your work.
@@Rose-xy5pe someone told me the only good Disney movies that were made was when Walt Disney was alive. I think that’s narrow minded. As much as I appreciate Walt Disney, my favorite Disney movies were made after Walt Disney died. My favorite Disney movie as you can probably tell by my icon is The Little Mermaid (original). My 2nd favorite is the original Lion King & my 3rd favorite is the original Beauty & the Beast
@@arielanderic Well funfact Walt did want to adapt Beauty and the Beast and The Little Mermaid, so in a way he had some influence even after his death.
Btw my favorite movies are Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, Snow White, Bambi, and The Little Mermaid.
@@arielanderic Also Walt had dignity and respect. If a movie flopped, he just accepted it, picked himself back up, and tried again. He didn’t blame the audience or write fake positive reviews. Unlike these idiotic, brats in adult bodies.
I remember seing Bernard & Bianca- what an amazingly beautiful and powerful story. Im surprised it doesn't get more attention.
GREAT MOUSE DECTEVIVE APPRECIATION YAYYY
that one is one of my faves lol
Great video. Could you make a video discussing the Golden Age and Silver Age of Disney. Those eras are under appreciated.
Disney should attempt to make a live action Tarzan. I wanna see them attempt to race swap Tarzan
I was born in 1994 and definitely grew up with the Renaissance Era; I still have my VHS collection of The Lion King (both the original and sequel), Mulan, Hercules, and Tarzan
Being born in 83, the renaissance hit when I was a kid. Aladdin and The Lion King were HUGE!! Everything up until Tarzan, Hercules and Treasure Planet, which was about the time I stopped keeping up with Disney cartoons.
I was born in 1996 this is era I grew up with because I used to watch the Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King and Aladdin and Mulan and Tarzan. Because their were way better then those CG cartoons movies. Because I wish I can go back and be a kid again
Because they were structured around a typical broadway musical.
I'm so glad I was born in the 90s and I love most of these movies. The Lion King though is my number 1 favourite.
Because it was the Disney Renaissance. The 90s. Nuff said.
Because they were good movies with good characters in a good story. Plain and simple, unlike most of today's Disney movies.
Its my favoutite era
Pocahontas will always be my top Disney film. The animation, the music, the story! Simply beautiful!
Pocahontas, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Little Mermaid, Lion King and Hunchback were it for me growing up.
The quality of these Videos is incredible
It annoys me how people want to act like Pocahontas doesn’t exist because of this era of virtue signaling. Since the beginning of time, humans have been taking real stories and making folklore out of them. Pocahontas was never marketed as a historical documentary. It’s a love story with a big message. Doesn’t matter what skin color you have, we are all the same.
It’s one of the most beautiful Disney movies with incredible animation and moving music.
Time to start appreciating it.
Exactly I would I just was talking about that on his post like why you acting like Pocahontas didn't exist in the Renaissance era that it wasn't celebrated as a good movie beforehand. My damn stop being a shame move Pocahontas Pocahontas look good movie regardless of historical context and still a damn good movie music was beautiful animation was on point. It's sad how Disney used to celebrate the character before the 2010s and now barely even discuss her smh
Pocahontas was Romeo and Juliet with an indigenous/settlers twist... on the Montagues and the Capulets.
... As Lion King was Hamlet with Lions.
Strangely enough the Lion King 2 was the same plot as Pocahontas... also Romeo and Juliet, but with Lions. With a message about overcoming racism, and pointless violence that breeds more violence.
The problem with Pocahontas was they stupidly chose to name her after a real life person rather than generic indigenous tribe.
Have you made of video of how to make a proper female protagonists; and how not to?
Male characters should be included too. Because they can be boring sometimes
That's a brillient idea. Especially for the Disney Princesses and how people analyze these characters and trash them for being damsels in distress (Well, we all can agree that The first 3 classic Disney Princesses, Snow White, Cinderella, and Aurora, are your stereotypical damsels in distress because they are passive in their own stories).
It was great back then because three words, “hand drawn animation.” Also creativity. I think creativity kinda died over the years. Although animation has been really good lately with different companies.
I grew up in the Disney renaissance. We had no idea how good we had it
Thanks for not hating on Pocahontas, but just saying it was weaker. It wasn't a bad film. If it was released during the dark ages? I would've been like, a huge success by comparison, someone mentioned once. It's true.
Great music, thats why
Pocahontas doesn't deserve all the hate.. So underrated
Just waiting for this second rennaisance to happen
Maybe next video you should talk about the Disney cartoons classic or modern or more about Kingdom Hearts.
Fun Fact:
Jason Weaver, the singer who performed "I can't wait to be king" got an offer of $2 million to do the song, but his mother stepped in to change that deal and got him $100,000 with royalties instead. 👍👍 😁
And Hakuna matada
They had the money for that but people are seriously saying they don't have money for 2D animation now
DISNEY'S CLASSIC MOVIES, SUCCESSFUL.
I see a lot of people thinking Disney management was responsible for the Disney Renaissance, if you watch the behind the scenes of all these movies you'll learn that all of them were made "despise" and not "thanks to" the bosses. It were the artists who made these movies great.
And thus it’s only logical that Disney goes back to basics and if I am not mistaken, we might see that with Wish but we won’t know for sure until we see it.
Man, Mulan's live action was so bad that I actually forgot it existed until you mentioned it LMFAOOO
I really like this Disney era of the 90s, because I was just born in 1997.
They will never be another decade of great animated 2D movies ever again.
I can sum it up very easily: They were charming, funny, wholesome and family-friendly. Everything that Disney today is not.
So true! Now Disney is all about political activism
All good things come to an end
Treasure planet and Atlantis are in my personal best, a simple adventure.
Rennaissance are my childhood and my favourites happened in my make believe/adventure phase.
I'm' really glad I grown up in that era and not with Frozen decade and such. After looking at a list of their movies there aren't even 5 I think are good in the last decade, if we add Pixar now we can triple the ammount but this is ridiculous.
I find myself gravitating more towards the underrated gems such Tarzan, Hercules and Notre Dame. The setting, action and themes of those three are a bit overlooked.
The Renaissance era was done by talented artists and story-tellers. The Love & Passion put into those masterpieces was evident. Counter it with the modern day, Disney...it's completely opposite. There's hardly any love OR passion put into the current movies. It's mostly about an ideological agenda. It's weird to see Disney as a shadow of it's former self 😢
Go watch Encanto.
@@markellhawthorne2921 That's only ONE movie lol That's nothing to brag about. Disney has had so many bombs lately...I'm surprised the studio is still able to stand 🥱
Personally frollo in my opinion was one of, if not the greatest villain Disney ever made. He was evil and got his comeuppance, but also had times of pause when he second guess his actions, but still thought he was doing the right thing. Seems like most other times, Disney tends to just make them evil and not care/love it, or go overboard with the sympathetic part.
Honestly, most of the best Disney films came from the 90s and the 00s. If only the heads of Disney now would take a page from what made them brilliant back then, we would actually see a return to form for the studio
Well hold on show a little bit respectful for Pocahontas. Like I know people want to try to get mad about the historical context of Pocahontas character but let's be honest that movie was gorgeous and the soundtrack was amazing like let's stop trying to pretend like Pocahontas was in a good movie Just because it didn't meet the expectations of Lion King doesn't mean that it was a terrible movie I'm so tired of everybody ignoring that movie or disrespecting it because some people want to cry about their feelings about what happened to the real Pocahontas like a lot of these stories are based off of fairy tales in real life people but come on now a little bit respect for Pocahontas. Lord knows Disney disrespect her nowadays
Someone wished on a monkey's paw for their favorite Disney movies to return to popularity.
I don’t miss the renaissance, I miss the people.
Aladdin Lion King Hunchback Hercules Tarzan are all gems
I actually liked alot of the movies in the dark period
I'm just looking at them and thinking, who will be next to be a live action remake?
You realize they have a list of live action remakes that are in the works, and getting planned... right. You don't have to wonder.
simple.
good animation
good stories
good characters
little to no political ideaologies
rosie o donnell as a gorilla
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No pun intended but Howard Ashman and Alan Menken really were an instrumental part of the reason why the Disney renaissance even exists can we agree on that
Not not first.
If its ok i would put rapunzel in this era cuz its as great as these movies i love little mermaid aladdin and beauty and the beast sm they are the balst i love hunch back of notre dame too same with tarzan tbh i love all lol even the lowest films like the rescuers 2 and pocahantas were amazing i hope disney would return to a new era like renassaince i want something like tangled and moana same with all the renassaince era movies
because nobody had the internet on their phone 24/7
The little mermaid is beautiful animation, the songs & kingdom ❤ 2 having 3 songs, charaters pops.2 downhill is...,Ariel's made a deal the Sea witch & boradway movie.
Beauty and the Beast & enchantment Christmas are 2 only good it's wasn't the jungle book its best picture
This video feels like a big run on sentence with not much room to breathe as you transition from movie to movie
I didn’t realize while we were in the renaissance era that it would ever end
They went on to have less successful movies like Atlantis, Treasure planet and the Emperor's new Groove... Eventually it was completion from Pixar (with 3D animation) and Dreamworks that took away Disney's stranglehold on kids entertainment. They had to compete for the artists and other personnel, and lost profits. Which negatively impacted what they could do in the future.