What To Do After Hurt & Betrayal: Paula White-Cain & The Ladies’ Personal Stories Of Healing Wounds
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- Whether you’re just starting your walk with God, or you’ve been a Christian most of your life, we all face situations of hurt, betrayal or loss that seem beyond repair in the moment… Listen as @ and the ladies at the table open up to reveal how you can heal from the deepest people wounds. Find freedom and redemption when you choose to walk these steps out and discover how to walk in the fullness of God’s plan for your life on this episode of Joni Table Talk!
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Never had any problem forgiving those who didn't have a relationship with Christ. But it was more than horrible to be betrayed by those who you believe are Christians. The lies just make it a lot worse.
Hi Linda! We pray you feel the presence of Holy Spirit today and that He comes in to heal every broken area in your life and leads you in the truth of His Word. God bless you!
It hurts like crazy & cuts deep. I have forgiven these ' Christians' who never apologized. God can deal with them.
Rebecca is an awesome woman of God.
Hi Maria! Thanks for watching today. We pray you were blessed by this message!
I’m really shocked I just read this on here. You know it’s really true I pray Lisa and 5 kids get past this and forgive and are richly blessed. I do wish she could of keeper her home the kids grew up in. It’s so sad to hear this. I’m sorry I’ve seen to much of this it’s just shocking to see it in ministry leaders and they act like nothings wrong?
I agree with ministry people who think there's nothing wrong with what they do that's not according to the words of Jesus? It's my prayer that God bless Lisa and the children that have been hurt by the wrong. God will allow her to forgive and be a blessing to those who understand when they have the same trial to go through. God is merciful and forgiving and wants us to be the same. Even as onlookers, we have to forgive and let God do the judging as He sees fit!
Why is Joni’s shows all about wanting to teach on forgiveness , an forgiving now ,her guilt is destroying her , does she really thinok people are as stupid and can’t see through why she’s on a band wagon of forgiveness it it’s guilt on her part and it’s destroying her , Joni and Doug have kicked a lot of people in there teeth and tried to convince some people getting a paycheck from daystar or want to promote there ministry on day star , and think people won’t go against them and speak truth , but whoever is in the web that’s covering and standing for there lies , God says vengeance are mine saith the Lord , and I shall repay , I pray God heals Dougs wife Lisa and children’s broken heart and allow her to be set free , from a man with many issuers in his life that thinks he’s covering , be glad Doug walked when his word wasn’t his word of honor , I would never go to counseling that he would be involved with , he’s far from trustworthy , how could you ever trust a man , when he didn’t stay put in his own marriage , I pray Marcus had his kids name on day star or else they should walk away and start over and leave Doug and Joni behind , greed gets you no where
It’s really something to see sometimes you think you know people then you realize you don’t. I see zero guilt looks to me they see themselves as the victim. They have no board over them they can make their own rules. There is a God we pray what is right wins in all this. There’s so much that’s been revealed it’s been a little shocking.
And we do need to forgive them like they say It is shocking to learn how rich they are off ministry. They pay themselves well?
@@tricillagirl7915They definitely are not a good example of being good stewards of God's money. Their lavish lifestyle..... engagement celebrations, wedding celebrations, gender reveal celebrations, etc are disgusting.
Yes, I learned the hard way that I can't love or forgive without the Lord Jesus empowering me to do so. Thank you Jesus.
Amen! We are so thankful for Jesus' provision!
True friends tell the truth. The truth will set you free!!!
Awesome nuggets in this talk about forgiveness eg. expectations of others, setting godly boundaries, don't dishonour others, forgiveness is a process, forgiveness can be continuous. Well done!
Thank you for saying that! We're so grateful this episode ministered to you.
This is the shows we need to see more on every station to get educated right!
Thank you for your kind words, Tina! We're grateful to be able to encourage and equip you through this program!
It's hard not to bear that hurt out loud to others verses hashing it out with the actual person who hurt you or just sharing it with God only. By retelling the hurt to others, it keeps the hurt alive and often muddies the opinion of the guilty party in other's eyes
Don't you think it can stay alive regardless of opening your mouth. In our hearts
Everyone hear on the table panel reshared the story
So how does a boundary and wall differ?
Walls become a prison that not only keeps the other person out but keeps you locked in. A boundary is decision to keep loving, keep forgiving, even if from a distance but just deciding how close to your heart you allow that person to come. It can sometimes look like a wall in extreme hurt cases.
Forgiveness is not always having them in your life you can and should cut some people off and out out of your life. Forgiveness does not mean relationship .. analogy. . the neighbors dog bites you over and over. it's o.k. to not go near him and you can still forgive the dog with out petting him again..
Ask Doug Weiss wife to come share her pain from infidelity, betrayal after 30 years, she is a good speaker on this!
I could not have said it Any better.
Get your husband's ex on there
Myma: Mind your own business.
@@JanitaDeBruyn-fi3pj Mind your own business.
If you are married I hope this neva happens to you
But will pray for ALL of you
I show you the scripture
Lady please u one of those who cherry pick scripture
Great topic!
We're happy to hear this, Sue! We pray this blessed you today!
@@daystar yes, it did. I love the stories.
Very important teaching. Thank-you ladies for sharing your hearts and part of your lives. It does put God's word into action with your stories. I have ptsd from my abuser. As the memories surface I get to go to the cross and revisit that place of Grace & Forgiveness. I'm choosing the road of obedience and freedom, slowly coming but I know that woth constantly forgiving, my healing will come as a result. To God be the Glory!!
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Thank you for sharing this, Marsha! There is so much freedom found in forgiveness!
I have lived this. And God will bless you many times over for the scar's that you carry. And I truly believe that God will bring you around full circle.
Hi Carol! We're grateful you tuned in today. We pray the Holy Spirit empowers you to continue keeping the truth of God's word for you and your family.
I enjoyed this broadcast
Hi there! We're thankful this encouraged you today, Daffney! God bless you!
Thank you ladies.
God bless you, Vickie! Thanks for watching!
Well said Rebecca
Hi Lauren! We pray this message encouraged you today with hope and healing in Jesus' name!
I really understand what Rachel said. God bless.
Hi Linda! Thanks for watching. We pray you feel equipped and empowered to walk even closer with Jesus on your journey!
The medical community has proven research that harbored anger produces disease.
I helped to care for my children’s father after we divorced due to his multiple years of infidelity. I forgave him as I thanked God and him for the lessons learned in the 20 year relationship.
Great Teaching
Thanks for watching, Charlene! God bless you!
Have to watch this again & again,
Thank God amen. In 1 John 1.9 If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness
Very important topic ❤
Hi Crystal! Thank you for watching. We pray you're encouraged in your walk with the Lord today.
Wow, good examples of true ,forgiveness
Powerful and confirming! I forgive all Lord because you have forgiven me!
Definitely WISDOM is implemented within setting & maintaining Healthy Boundaries.....
❤ Forgive from the bottom of our heart ❤️
❤The Kindness of your words !!!
Thank you….
Yes boundaries thank you Rachael
Good morning day 🌟 I love your program twice per day , please pray for me ❤
Forgiveness has been the only way for me to survive since my soul had been hurt multiple times very badly. I knew this before I found redemption by Jesus. And since the day I've understood that we don't fight against humans of flesh and blood forgiveness has become even easier. Jesus said, forgive 77x7 times. 7 stands for perfection and completeness = 3 times perfection!
Hi there! Thank you for watching today and commenting. We pray God continues to guide you on your walk with Him and may His grace empower you to fulfill His purpose for you here on earth!
Rachel your word brought some clarity. God bless you
We're happy to hear you were encouraged by this. God bless you!
Forgiveness is the biggy!
Life long prayers of forgiveness, sometimes so arduous, but totally important. Thank you for this program, I truly had my breakthrough about it all when I started to realise(Holy spirit inspired I might add) that Jesus said from the cross, forgive them for they know not what they do. My eyes were opened to that understanding(like finally!) , and God was able to help me and enlarge my understanding, and the importance of knowing this.
Much love everyone♥️🙏✝️
I definitely now understand that unforgiveness will tear our behinds up!!!!! Unforgiveness causes us to manifest via spirits of torment, hatred, pride, entitlement, bitterness, unfair judgments, wrath, pity parties, 😢 monitoring spirits, etc. The Holy Spirit is definitely helping me to grow in this particular area. I can definitely say that whether we choose to admit it or not. I have received this reality check. When one comes from myriads of abuses as a child & adulthood because we're wounded we often run a gambit of unrealistic expectations, on top of this we can exhibit heavy spirits of Pride, Controlling, Gaslighting, Entitlement, Selfishness, Vengeance, Manipulation, Bitterness, Unforgiveness, we definitely need Deliverance!!!!! I've lived it struggling 😪 self-hatred, having been betrayed repeatedly. But there's only freedom in Truth, not about others but the TRUTH about me.
Awesome discussion on forgiveness it change mu life 100 percent now I live peace that I never had for years the love of God is 😊following in my life forgiveness is powerful and is God's law glory to God❤❤🙏💙❤️
Wow great word God bless you 🙏 all
Beautiful ladies I loved it. God bless you all you have to forgive.
Hi Basil! We pray this encouraged you today and fills you will hope and courage to continue running your race with Christ!
This was so good today
Thank you, Carol! God bless you. 😊
Well I can it a lot hurts I did forgive but I still feel pain 😢
Hi Margo! We are praying for you. We pray that Jesus would come in to heal everything that was broken and bring restoration to your mind, soul and body like only He can. We are here to pray for you 24/7 at 1.800.329.0029!
I think pain is just a part of the journey. Even after forgiving. It's hurts less but the pain comes and goes.
Excellent message thank you lord ❤️ 🙏
Thank you, Virginia! We're grateful you enjoyed this message today. Have a blessed rest of your week!
@@daystar you also
Your both daughters were right on target
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Amen 🙏🏿
I do forgive others, but it is the narcissist I see that has the unforgiveness in their hearts.
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Never had a problem with forgiving anyone. In fact no matter how I am hurt, it only last a few hours. Sometimes I wonder if something is wrong with me. Never find myself even hating anyone. But this part me seems to attract haters....whew!!!
It is one of the highest mandate, sooo good. Surrender is key !
Thank you ladies(this is for me)!!i have forgiven but its very hard to trust ppl. I will help, give and love but i want to do it fro a distance.🙏🏾🙏🏾
That makes no sense. So your going to live in perpetual isolation?
😊You are wise as trust has to be earned. It helps me to know “forgiveness is a choice” not a feeling. When I choose to forgive the Lord Himself will add the feelings eventually. Be blessed!
Joyce Myer teaches principles. Forgiveness is spiritual and is a WORK of God, as we allow Him to be the Potter and us the vessel that He wants to form.
I'm in a depressing situation of emotional hurt I brought on my family,though I know they won't forgive me,there's much hatred shown towards me,now that I'm trying to get closer to Jesus no family member is happy or give me encouragement rather I'm told there's sins that God does not forgive,this has brought me low down again and I can feel how my sins are weighing me down,because in this house I'm only reminded of my sins and the mess I caused,I've stopped going to church.Lord Have Mercy on this troubled sinful child of Yours Poor Banish child of Eve.😢😢😢
Get in the word of God and read for yourself , don’t listen to your friends , family or anyone speaking negative about you ,the word of God says sin is sin , no big sin no little sin , sin is sin , there’s not one sin greater than the other , read about David in the Bible , you need to find a church , Bible believing church , not what man says , not mans opinions not your family opinions , not living under the law , as you listen to your family , and start making the word come alive , start claiming scripture, no weapon formed against me shall prosper, your allowing your family hold you back , even stoped going to church over what your family says why ? get in the Bible when there lying to you and telling you that God only forgives some sin , obviously they either don’t know the Bible or there lying , and lying is just as equal to the sin there not forgiving you for , Gods bigger than any mess we create and forgives all sin , some family never forgive and is always throwing it back in faces , they can’t bridal their tongue , comes a time you have to make decisions to either stay with family that can’t move on and forgive or cut the apron strings as long as your legal age and walk , talk to Jesus his your forever friend .
@@joangelaparker2845Thank you for your encouragement it all makes sense God Is Love.❤❤
The Lord told me to forgive by faith
Forgiveness is actually meant for me
Thank you for watching! We pray you continue to be led in all truth and wisdom by the Holy Spirit in Jesus' name!
Is easier to forgive when you remember the times God has forgiven you.
Yes and amen!!!!
Earlier today, I came across this video again, and I realized it is one of three centered around Joni Lamb's marriage to Doug Weiss. Honestly, I can't imagine why it is anybody's business. This channel has gotten tons of views on these videos. (Lots of money made with the average per view being roughly $2.25 and as much as $3.00 per view.) Let's not forget the "likes" and "sharing" these videos. Cha-Ching. Mr. Simone, you asked everyone for grace. Grace is unmerited favor our Father God endows to His children, as He wills it. Maybe you meant to say, "show mercy?" I don't see much mercy on your part.
Then (since you want honesty) you ask for donations and/or a monthly commitment to "the ministry" to spread the Gospel. Ministry? This doesn't seem like a Christian ministry. Let's be real. Just looking at the cartoon-like gestures you make tells me something. You, Joshua, said you have 20 years "in the ministry," yet you also said you got saved in 2015. Huh? This is more like a gossip channel/news channel/let's all get on the bandwagon and vent channel/what's your opinion channel. Reading people's comments makes me scratch my head in wonderment. There is so much hate for Doug Weiss and all praises to his ex-wife, who NONE (except one or two) knows. Even so, with all the knowing, no one knows what really happened. All the fussing about how she still works at Doug's business is ridiculous. It is an income for her, a job she might really enjoy, and she might be an integral part of that office. People need to stop micro-managing the lives of others. A question to ask could be, "If Doug was such a bad guy, how on earth could she stay there?" You, the owner of this channel, keep saying repeatedly that you are not gossiping. "They did this to themselves." And, "I'm not here to destroy anyone's character," you said. Add to that, "I'm not assassinating anyone here, I'm just talking and referring to some of their behaviors," is what you said. No, you are openly gossiping!
You even dig into Jimmy Evens (whose league you are not even in), pointing out he is no longer a pastor at Robert Morris' church. Maybe he retired from that church. You are putting all of these people in a bad light and saying they did this to themselves. And all the judging of Joni Lamb is ridiculous! Wow! Some of you kept a timeline of when Marcus died, when Doug divorced, when Doug sold the house, when Joni and Doug got married, when it was announced. How and why any of this happened is nobody's business. You righteous ones should not be saying two words about this couple, Jimmy Evans, or anyone.
Since you're looking for a few facts, did you know that Marcus had an affair some time ago? They called it "an affair of the heart," but only they and God know what happened there. My 2 cent opinion is could it be Joni, being so crushed and embarrassed all these years, stayed with Marcus for the sake of the family and even moreso for the ministry? (Now that's a ministry!) I'm not saying this to badmouth Marcus. I appreciate the Daystar Ministry. Even the saved can find themselves weak and sin and fall short. Nevertheless, what a blow to Joni that must've been.
My personal opinion, for what's it worth, is that Joni, however it happened, is in love. And I believe Doug is too. For shame you who think he's after her money!! Does he look like a slouch to you? I think they each found love, and whatever happened with Doug's ex is personal, and no one has the right to say they should have told the whole, wide world why they got divorced.
Mr. Simone, you repeated your sentiments about that several times. It is not yours, not mine, not anyone's business, just because they are in Christian ministry. God knows, and that's enough. If He forgives them, which He does, who is anyone to bring this all up? There is only ONE unpardonable sin, and divorce (however done) is not an unpardonable sin. Listen closely to what Jimmy Evens gives as a biblical example, and you'll be relieved. I think it's in 2Corinthians, but check it for yourself to be sure. When Joni said she felt peace (still does) over her decision, who is anyone to say that isn't good enough? If her decision was wrong, Holy Spirit would have let her know. J.S. you said, regarding Joni's feeling peace, a few things. What if your heart lies? is one thing. And, regarding Joni's decision and the peace she felt, "It has to be confirmed by the people in the church!" Sorry, but that is simply not true.
I paused this video numerous times to take notes, to be as accurate as possible in my comments. There are many quotes of yours, J.S. I could go into, but I'll just add a few because the comments started to go all over the place, mentioning Martin Luther Kind, the apostate church, "This video," you said, "is really about Doug not revealing the cause of divorce, and he's charging thousands and thousands of dollars in his marriage ministry and his ex-wife still works for him." A lot of repetition in tearing this man down, like he owes anyone an explanation for anything he's done. It's simply not fair to pass judgment on him, Joni, Jimmy. What does his fees have to do with anything? Silly comments like, "If he's a marriage counselor, why couldn't he fix his own marriage?" just show how shallow this thing has gotten. Did you ever hear the saying, "A wounded physician makes the best healer?"
For all I know, my comment is way too long and will be cut. My point is that no one has the right to judge anyone, You are making money on every person who views, comments, shares, likes, etc. and you're worried about how much Dough, a PhD, if I'm not mistaken, makes? Can't you see how terrible this whole thing is? Sorry this got so long. I hope my input helped.
christinlarocca: Thank you. ❤
I have also had to speakup against these hateful replies & similar replies even on other channels.
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I really enjoyed the show and hearing from everyone on the panel I was just disappointed I didn’t hear more from Paula as a guest, maybe you can do a part two
So blessed by Daystar! All very relatable.
Wow, we're grateful to hear this, Atalaya! We pray the seeds the Lord has planted in your life will bear much fruit!
@@daystarYou should be more selective of your guests and should consider the effect of your advise. You have nothing to be proud of. Your show is a replica of the new age person centred gospel of Oprah. Adding the name of Jesus to a topic dies not make it Xhristian.
My entire life it was so easy for me to forgive.
My heart was tender and willing.
Then a couple of major things came up in rapid succession that literally devastated me. I was totally shattered and for the first time ever,I hated,I wanted to hurt these people and actually wished bad things for them.
I wish I could say I have totally forgiven them,but I can’t.
I struggle with it,give it to God,then take it back. I hate this monkey on my back.
Now every time I think of them,I say,”Lord,I make it a conscious act of my will to forgive them,I need Your help.”
I am truly afraid I will go to hell. Please pray for me.
You will not go to hell as long as you believe Jesus is your lord and savior, even if you die trying to forgive. God knows your heart.
Hi there! Thank you for watching and commenting today. We're sorry for the pain you've had to experience and we come in agreement for total forgiveness, restoration and hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. We pray that as you lay every burden and concern at His feet you will find His miracles on the other side. We are here to pray with you 24/7 at 1.800.329.0029 and online at Daystar.com/prayer. God bless you!
@@vickycash1643Don't let the enemy fool or condemn you. The fact that your confessing this speaks volumes! Sometimes forgiveness is a process. It's not always linear. Your hurting. Give the Lord your pain and keep doing it.
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Have Lisa Weiss on and ask her what to do after hurt and betrayal.
Puala White Cain was ministering in my Church Allelua Ministries International with Alph Lukau in South Africa. What a woman of God she is.
Do research on Paula!
I am having a huge problem forgiving my abusive adultery husband who is living with my Aunt.
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Hi there! We pray this program encouraged you today! God bless you!
@@daystar Thank you! Daystar has been a blessing in my life for many years. I love you❤️ God bless all of you!
Im glad the woman forgave Marcus and Joni for not giving the money back.
They honored the contract and did what the Lord said
I can't tell you much shade and grimy comments and ostracizing I've endured. From professing Christians. Why? Because they thought i was pretty and therefore not to be believed or trusted. Crazy! I forgive them though. Great show! Excellent.
I wonder if Lisa Weiss feels betrayed by Joni for marrying her husband. I pray for Lisa often as I’m sure her pain is great after being betrayed by both her husband and her friend.
I Mercer had a problem forgiving and moving on from people, but what do you do when it’s your own siblings and family who hurt you in such a way that you are literally still in shock!! What they have done is beyond disappointing and disgusting. I have just stayed quite, and have not defended myself at all. I simply just walked away! 😢 it’s been 4 years! I want to forgive I just don’t know how too!
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Powerful testimonies powerful message. Thank You Jesus. I choose to forgive people and have boundaries in Jesus name. Amen. God bless you all. Do not allow yourself to be in prison. Forgive and love one another in Jesus name Amen 🙏forgiveness and release the person in God ‘s hands Amen 🙏 choice to forgive people. God bless you all
My question is does God separate all culture & sometimes I just don't know that does God is religious Catholic different than Christian church right?🙂
Its true not to judge divorced people at the same time many im sure would admit it was most likely due to the topic here...unforgiveness
We pray you were encouraged by this program today, Lauren! We pray the peace of Christ would cover you as Holy Spirit guides you in all truth! Blessings.
Hi Ladies...love your topics...however, I am a Christian and did like like Rachel stereotyping all Christians due to the bullying she experienced with teenagers. I was also surprised no one spoke up to address the fact about a few bad apples do not mean ALL Christians are bad. Disappointed but she is still too young to understand certain issues. 🙏
If you don't forgive, JESUS will not forgive you! It's not easy but knowing and loving JESUS, it can be done.❤😂
All of you with your glam squads and mega Churches. You will never be like Oliver Anthony. He is real. Humble. And has reached millions on Joe Rogan without false eyelashes and perfect (maybe lives) you present to the public.
False lashes have nothing to do with it. I think the topic of forgiveness was covered and they did a beautiful job. Don't be so critical.
vanessabrookfield: I sure hope Oliver Anthony would not have false eyelashes on. Please don't pick up any more stones.
I am a PK
Hopefully Lisa can forgive you!
Related too much of what was said...
Hi there! We pray that the Holy Spirit guides you on your journey of healing and forgiveness that you may find freedom and hope in Christ!
If we don’t forgive, we set ourselves up to Satan for who knows what.
Why would you name your station , after the name of the devil, Daystar
😊 Revelation 22:16 identifies Jesus as "the bright morning star." Just as the morning star appears before the sun rises, so Jesus will come for the church before he returns to restore Israel to himself. Revelation 22:14-21 concludes the epilogue begun in verse 6.
Having Paula White on the show just undermined the value of the topic. Joni you should be more selective with your guests and ask Jesus if He is pleased with them. Very concerning to see professing Christians disregard the word of God.
What is wrong with Paula White?
We really don't know her heart. If you don't like her, pray for her.
@@danilaroche1156 What a great load of nonsense. We know what's in her heart because she told us. The word of God tells us the from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks. Testimonies like these should never be aired.