You go and develop a 2nd gen MIG 21 then only you would know how brutally congress delayed the defense tech for 7 decades. The one guy is trying to revive everything in two decades !!... Own rifles , own rockets , own tanks , own aircrafts .... Before it was an Italian shadow govt running Indian defence. 😢
@@PSK0456from 10 years modi wasthere kaveri engine was available then why he didn't worked or funded on emergency on kaveri. He is idiot that's why US fooled him
@@PSK0456Who planned and introduced Tejas ?Who launched ins vikrant ? Who planned Amca ? Who signed mrca deal of 126 aircrafts ? Who made those insaas rifles? Who made the forces like NSG,raw,spg,para sf, Marcos ?
Avionics software and the engine are the most difficult part, merely assembling doesn't count as "made in" So is understandable Indias' efforts to bring that technology home
So, apart from us,France,Russia which country have their own engine let apart the jet manufacturing...btw, for ur I wud like to tell u avionics and software in these are home grown...
US, China would already be flying 6th gen aircraft when India will be still rolling out 5th gen AMCA prototype for testing...it is cronic tendency of Indian govts to delay the project due to lack of taking timely decisions and sanction requisite funds for R&D....Tejas delay is example of such beurocratic delays caused by various govts...political understanding and will power is behind such delays☹️☹️😧
You are talking about the F-35 fighter project between America, Italy, and Denmark, and you did not talk about the participation of Turkey, which is still participating in supplying spare parts for the project at the present time. Did you know that Turkey's participation in the F-35 fighter project reaches 32%, Italy 30%, and the rest is distributed among the other participating countries? Until the Americans began to call it the Turkish-Italian fighter The touch screen in the cockpit of the aircraft is produced by Türkiye Turkey is more advanced than India in several steps regarding fifth generation fighters, Abroha, electronics technology, and leads the world in electronic warfare technology. Did you know that America is an advanced country in the production of fighter jets, but it lags behind in this field of electronic warfare technology?
You will often ask yourself why Turkish drones have become the most powerful in the world and have been sold to 35 countries because of their electronic warfare technology.
Being a member of NATO it has access to advanced technology developed by US, and other European countries. Can't compare India's efforts to developed own technology. It takes time. South Korea took more than 25 years to bring oit its fighter jet
Sorry, but Turkey is no longer part of the F-35 program and I am pretty sure Turkey just helped in developing things like a highly-integrated and domestically-developed sensor suite, including a new active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar being developed by Aselsan using the latest gallium nitride (GaN) technology, an integrated electro-optical system (IEOS) includes a dedicated infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and an electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) and new electronic warfare (EW) and self-protection system. The same thing can be seen in their Bayrakter drones as well. And in the KAAN fighter jet as well. The founder of Bayraktar also studied drone tech in the US as well. Do you really think the US could not make the F-35 when they made the F-22 Raptor which is the most advanced fighter jet in the world today? I will say 32% is a highball because Turkey itself could not build its own jet totally indigenously but just inducted the things which were already in the Bayraktar drone. And you are talking about a touch screen in the cockpit? Heck even in KAAN Turkey could not do that. If they could do it in F-35, why not in KAAN? Does that make sense? Yes, I agree Turkey is ahead of India when it comes to drone technology but I won't say for the rest. Turkey was already manufacturing the F-16 under the license of General Dynamics and was part of the F-35 before buying the S400 from Russia which made the US angry. While India recently got a manufacturing license from Sukhoi for SU-30 which means India is already late here. If Turkey was so good at making fighter jets, why did Turkey only build KAAN? Why not some other aircraft as well which was equivalent to F-16? Does that make sense? And I won't say it leads in electronic warfare because it can only make UAVs for now which also uses American GPS. And the US lags behind electronic warfare? Huh? Are you kidding me? Please stop licking the boots of Turkey XD. It is like saying China is behind Turkey in electronic warfare. The US has companies like Cisco, has its own space station, satellites, has its own space program, is a powerhouse when it comes to semiconductors. And you are saying that the US lags behind in electronic warfare capabilities? How much did the Turkish govt pay you to lick their boots XD. Comparing the US to Turkey is like comparing an ant to a lion. The US has the best military capabilities the world has ever seen. Try not to push your luck. Turkey is 50 years behind when it comes to competing with the US that also in the military.
@@rasheddadoush8029 Most of the Turkish drones are bought by Islamic countries FYI. This is because even if Israel and the US have better quality, Islamic countries hate these two countries. After all, the US is helping Israel in the war. And of course, no one will buy Chinese drones because of their low quality.
@@plusultra7258 Your words are logical and realistic, proof that you follow international political news. Our topic is about the international F-35 fighter, not about the F-22, whose project began in 1987 and came to light in 2007. The F-35 fighter is an international project in which a number of countries participate, most notably Turkey with a 32% share, followed by Italy with a 30% share. Did you know that Turkey actually left the project, but is still supplying the parts because they cannot be dispensed with? You speak in a trivial manner stemming from your ignorance of current events, because it seems that the image of the United States of America in the sixties and seventies is firmly established in your mind and not in our current era. Surely the United States can produce all the parts it needs But you should know that the United States does not produce all the parts it needs, and setting up production lines for advanced aircraft parts is not something you can do in an afternoon. 9 Turkish companies participating in the F-35 project, which I will mention to you in order to increase your modest knowledge in the field of the military aviation industry. The Turkish company Ayesaş is the exclusive and main supplier of the panoramic cockpit display in the F-35 fighter program. Enter the link and read the company’s products and what they do. th-cam.com/video/cFrS4i_Y0c8/w-d-xo.html
HAL should feel the shame about this. It is said that the country's brightest minds are found in IIT. Can't they even develop a small prototype? Why aren't institutions like TIFR not coming up to put their smartest people for this? Does anyone have an answer to my question?
Indian airforce has proved its efficiency in 1971 war with so less technology.....Its the pilot in cockpits.....In kargil war India proved how to fight an army sitting on high ground and with full view hiding .Indian army proved its determination of doing the impossible in modern high altitude war ....❤❤❤❤
No doubt our soldiers are brave...but in modern warfare advanced technology gives an edge in war like situation....it will take many years to develop AMCA...India should go for either su 57 or F35 till the time amca get ready for air force
Fighting against Pakistan doesn't mean we are the best all over the world especially the pilot is nothing without modern aircraft we may win against Pakistan without our modern technology 😅 but not against China or any other develop country
Also China j-20 cannot supercruise with their W-10 engine and the canards on the side of the planes is bad for stealth so at best it should be considered 4.5 gen which goes the same for su-57. Only US can properly build 5th gen design.
@@superpooper_2030they do. Its called 'hacking' and as far as the amca is concerned. Dont you worry about it. Our people know when and how to use it. India does not have the most reputed defence forces for the sake of it. They know things better than experts like you.
Our scientist know this thing and that's why they are working on many 6th gen tech to incorporate those tech in today 4th gen fighters more like hybrid approach .
Indian 5 th generation fighter Amca just started the race. Turkey and South Korea are halfway and USA,china and Russia had completed. But the indians are believing they can still win race when their first prototype roll out in 20 years time😂
@@Red.bulldozer3 If you think Russia and China's 5th gen fighter jets are completely 5th-generation fighter jet, I have nothing to say here but I will say your ignorance only. It is not as advanced as the US
@@plusultra7258 Yes, you should have a lot to say, the least is your slave mindset and your blind worship of your white master the rotten USA. Go find out how many F35 have CRASHED, no less than Indians did to IAF
The real question is not when will AMCA fly? The question is if it will ever fly? Tejas took 35 years to get from paper to IOC....with American engine, Israeli avionics....not indigenous.
NOT entirely true .. tejas was stopped many times inbetween for many reasons .. yes, some missiles and avionics, engine are from partners so what... getting started is the hardest step... and simultaneously india HAS developed its own enjine but thrust of the engines needs work, and avionics/radars are now being deployed which are our own... so what exactly is your point. World laught and reduculed us for our space programe , only to eat their own words and have the humble pie... with india we may take time but we will get there at our own strength with quality and precision... laugh to that mate !!
@@sandeepsandhu4286 "tejas was stopped many times inbetween for many reasons" Very convenient excuse ya. "some missiles and avionics, engines are from partners so what..." So what? If the most important elements of the aircraft are actually manufactured by foreign suppliers, then stop calling that damn joke of a combat aircraft "indigenous" dumbass. So in actual fact, you spent 35 years just to design and build a short fuselage and weird funny looking at delta-winged aircraft. I am very well aware of the Kaveri engine that all Indians have been talking about for the last 2 decades but have never been able to get it to work properly. Is that the same engine you're talking about? My point? Did you not read my last post? "The real question is not when will AMCA fly? The question is if it will ever fly?" Which part of the simple English do you not understand? Does the world need to wait for another 35 years for India to get from paper design to IOC for the AMCA? Do you know why no foreign country wants to buy the Tejas? If after 35 years of development, you still can't fix all the bugs, then this Tejas project is hopeless. The entire Indian aviation safety record is atrocious and appalling. Indian pilots with fake pilot licenses, very2 common. For the price of a Tejas, you could already get a much better plane from somewhere else. Indian after-sales support is practically non-existent. Indian contractual commitments are untrustworthy. Even your own Navy rejected the Tejas. Space program? A desperate attempt to sway the conversation somewhere else are we? Hahaha.... Typical Indian stages of response when they have been called out for their bullshit in a debate. 1. Blanket denial and rejection of truth and facts. 2. Attempt at misdirection from their fuckup to something else. 3. Attempt to use any form of perceived power, position, or influence to kill the debate. Not possible in this case. 4. And finally the classic "@#%$&*^%". This always comes up at the final stage when all is lost. You haven't gone to stage 4 yet, but surely very soon.
@@sandeepsandhu4286 Indian 5th generation fighter AMCA has been on mock-up stage since forever. that's akin to like still warming up before the start of the race. In case you didn't realize, the race started 3 decades ago. Turkey and South Korea are well past halfway into the race. USA, China and Russia had completed the race well over a decade ago. They are prepping up for the next race. The Pakis, they didn't even bother to go to the starting point and jump in halfway down the track. Say what you will but there are no rules for these kind of race. But the Indians believe they can still win the race when their first prototype rolls out 2 decades from now. And even that is a monumental MAYBE. Meanwhile, the Pakistanis took the smart route by working together with the Chinese to come up with the cheaper but much better JF-17, well over 100++ built, now well into production of Mark III version, multiple significant international orders with just a fraction of the development cost/development time as compared to the Tejas. It's obvious which is the success and which is the failure. Now the Pakis are talking about acquiring J-20s from China and co-producing KAAN in the future........all this while AMCA is still just a pathetic mock-up display in aviation shows.
US knows , rest of the countries don’t have 5th gen yet decades ago . Probably they have 10th gen or time travelling anti gravity vessels super classified by now 😂✌️🫶🏽
All components should be outsourced to different vendors who has expertise and proven track record then only it can be achieved within time frame , otherwise it will be a other Tejas which will be in developing stage forever or it will be rejected by IAF , atleast reverse engineering like china
I think India should buy J-20 or J-35 or FC-31 from China immediately, later Amca program will be inducted slowly... delay is not good for our country security.
😢a 140cr populated country cannot make an aircraft where as smaller countries like south korea and turkey doing. The time india gets ready its 5th or 6th gen aircraft other countries will show up with 7-8th gen.
at this rate, it will take a century to develope 5th gen aircraft. This is what you get when you value reservations over merit. The chineese, americans don't have reservations in their system. And if you want to compete with them, merit based society is a requirement.
When India is threatened by other nations that is when India will take defense seriously. Concentrate on missile and drone tech……planes will become obsolete soon.
It took endia 40 years to put wings on a bajaj and make it fly.. they call it teJunk. It's not easy for endia to make a flying bajaj to have low radar detection... I'd say give them 100 years...
India takes 50year project to develop the plane this is next generation plane so india will fly amca in 2050 by then everyone will have 7th generation plane india will fly 5th generation
Turkey and S.Korea are not ahead as Turkish KAAN's future in uncertain, and S.Korea's Boramae isn't 5th Gen, it's just 4.5++ Gen. S.Korea did plan for 5th Gen, but that would come into picture after another decade, so S.Korea decided to jump to 6th Gen instead and we won't see any until post-2032. But having plane doing the flight testing and working with sensors and radar etc.. can be good as they can collect valuable data and flight results to improve and tune the hardware and software.
Neither Turkey nor South Korea has truly 5th gen fighter jet like the US has anyways. Even J20 is not completely 5th gen fighter jet. I will say 4.5 or a bit higher than that at best.
When all the countries which possess 5th gen started early process n scientific research on the same what was indian administration administration doing in the late 80s n 90sq, they were sleeping on two projects the ALH ( Advanced light helicopter) & the LCA (Light combat aircraft) for many years , until the modi govt came to power HAL, NAL,ADA& the DRDO all got to their feet to fasten the lagging project , we should have started early , HAL was on a slow pace since 1971...
Dear fellow countrymen we got delayed with the project due to our own administration not showing enough n more interest until the recent Modi govt came to power , The ALH ( Advanced light helicopter ) & The LCA ( Light combat Aircraft ) Both were lagging from the 80s on ... Only the modi administration fastened the programs and could catch up with the rest , otherwise our pilots would have been still flown the infamous flying coffins... Every other days news.. We need good leaders who can make HAL, NAL, ADA , DRDO & other organizations to keep them on their toes ... ....
KAAN with exposed tail thrusters is not a complete stealth fighter. It shows the limitations of Turkey R&D. If the thrusters to be covered it should be inside some heavy thermal withstanding material.
Every economy, military, science, philosophy, society in this world There's an order, there's a step. There's absolutely no quantum leap. For India, complete Tejas first
AMCA is just a dream.
Everything in India as it takes long process.
You go and develop a 2nd gen MIG 21 then only you would know how brutally congress delayed the defense tech for 7 decades. The one guy is trying to revive everything in two decades !!... Own rifles , own rockets , own tanks , own aircrafts .... Before it was an Italian shadow govt running Indian defence. 😢
they are waiting for AI help
@@PSK0456from 10 years modi wasthere kaveri engine was available then why he didn't worked or funded on emergency on kaveri. He is idiot that's why US fooled him
You try to develop that at least you need to live 10000years to make bull*shi*man
@@PSK0456Who planned and introduced Tejas ?Who launched ins vikrant ? Who planned Amca ? Who signed mrca deal of 126 aircrafts ? Who made those insaas rifles? Who made the forces like NSG,raw,spg,para sf, Marcos ?
Avionics software and the engine are the most difficult part, merely assembling doesn't count as "made in" So is understandable Indias' efforts to bring that technology home
So, apart from us,France,Russia which country have their own engine let apart the jet manufacturing...btw, for ur I wud like to tell u avionics and software in these are home grown...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Every good work is hard to achieve and we wish all obstacles clear quickly torget achievef early. Jealously Wil not die appears in every path 😊
US, China would already be flying 6th gen aircraft when India will be still rolling out 5th gen AMCA prototype for testing...it is cronic tendency of Indian govts to delay the project due to lack of taking timely decisions and sanction requisite funds for R&D....Tejas delay is example of such beurocratic delays caused by various govts...political understanding and will power is behind such delays☹️☹️😧
You are talking about the F-35 fighter project between America, Italy, and Denmark, and you did not talk about the participation of Turkey, which is still participating in supplying spare parts for the project at the present time.
Did you know that Turkey's participation in the F-35 fighter project reaches 32%, Italy 30%, and the rest is distributed among the other participating countries?
Until the Americans began to call it the Turkish-Italian fighter
The touch screen in the cockpit of the aircraft is produced by Türkiye
Turkey is more advanced than India in several steps regarding fifth generation fighters, Abroha, electronics technology, and leads the world in electronic warfare technology.
Did you know that America is an advanced country in the production of fighter jets, but it lags behind in this field of electronic warfare technology?
You will often ask yourself why Turkish drones have become the most powerful in the world and have been sold to 35 countries because of their electronic warfare technology.
Being a member of NATO it has access to advanced technology developed by US, and other European countries.
Can't compare India's efforts to developed own technology. It takes time. South Korea took more than 25 years to bring oit its fighter jet
Sorry, but Turkey is no longer part of the F-35 program and I am pretty sure Turkey just helped in developing things like a highly-integrated and domestically-developed sensor suite, including a new active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar being developed by Aselsan using the latest gallium nitride (GaN) technology, an integrated electro-optical system (IEOS) includes a dedicated infrared search and track (IRST) sensor and an electro-optical targeting system (EOTS) and new electronic warfare (EW) and self-protection system. The same thing can be seen in their Bayrakter drones as well. And in the KAAN fighter jet as well. The founder of Bayraktar also studied drone tech in the US as well. Do you really think the US could not make the F-35 when they made the F-22 Raptor which is the most advanced fighter jet in the world today? I will say 32% is a highball because Turkey itself could not build its own jet totally indigenously but just inducted the things which were already in the Bayraktar drone. And you are talking about a touch screen in the cockpit? Heck even in KAAN Turkey could not do that. If they could do it in F-35, why not in KAAN? Does that make sense? Yes, I agree Turkey is ahead of India when it comes to drone technology but I won't say for the rest. Turkey was already manufacturing the F-16 under the license of General Dynamics and was part of the F-35 before buying the S400 from Russia which made the US angry. While India recently got a manufacturing license from Sukhoi for SU-30 which means India is already late here. If Turkey was so good at making fighter jets, why did Turkey only build KAAN? Why not some other aircraft as well which was equivalent to F-16? Does that make sense? And I won't say it leads in electronic warfare because it can only make UAVs for now which also uses American GPS. And the US lags behind electronic warfare? Huh? Are you kidding me? Please stop licking the boots of Turkey XD. It is like saying China is behind Turkey in electronic warfare. The US has companies like Cisco, has its own space station, satellites, has its own space program, is a powerhouse when it comes to semiconductors. And you are saying that the US lags behind in electronic warfare capabilities? How much did the Turkish govt pay you to lick their boots XD. Comparing the US to Turkey is like comparing an ant to a lion. The US has the best military capabilities the world has ever seen. Try not to push your luck. Turkey is 50 years behind when it comes to competing with the US that also in the military.
@@rasheddadoush8029 Most of the Turkish drones are bought by Islamic countries FYI. This is because even if Israel and the US have better quality, Islamic countries hate these two countries. After all, the US is helping Israel in the war. And of course, no one will buy Chinese drones because of their low quality.
@@plusultra7258 Your words are logical and realistic, proof that you follow international political news.
Our topic is about the international F-35 fighter, not about the F-22, whose project began in 1987 and came to light in 2007.
The F-35 fighter is an international project in which a number of countries participate, most notably Turkey with a 32% share, followed by Italy with a 30% share. Did you know that Turkey actually left the project, but is still supplying the parts because they cannot be dispensed with?
You speak in a trivial manner stemming from your ignorance of current events, because it seems that the image of the United States of America in the sixties and seventies is firmly established in your mind and not in our current era. Surely the United States can produce all the parts it needs
But you should know that the United States does not produce all the parts it needs, and setting up production lines for advanced aircraft parts is not something you can do in an afternoon.
9 Turkish companies participating in the F-35 project, which I will mention to you in order to increase your modest knowledge in the field of the military aviation industry.
The Turkish company Ayesaş is the exclusive and main supplier of the panoramic cockpit display in the F-35 fighter program. Enter the link and read the company’s products and what they do.
th-cam.com/video/cFrS4i_Y0c8/w-d-xo.html
It’s going to fly today on PPT
HAL should feel the shame about this. It is said that the country's brightest minds are found in IIT. Can't they even develop a small prototype? Why aren't institutions like TIFR not coming up to put their smartest people for this? Does anyone have an answer to my question?
Indian educated system is outdated and way below global standards
India only talk and talk, India has been talking about it since 2017 and is still under talking stage😂😂😂 forget about flying it.
2010 se lag re h bhai jab duniya k pass 7v generation k honge tab amca adaan bhrega
Talking since 1947
Indian airforce has proved its efficiency in 1971 war with so less technology.....Its the pilot in cockpits.....In kargil war India proved how to fight an army sitting on high ground and with full view hiding .Indian army proved its determination of doing the impossible in modern high altitude war ....❤❤❤❤
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No doubt our soldiers are brave...but in modern warfare advanced technology gives an edge in war like situation....it will take many years to develop AMCA...India should go for either su 57 or F35 till the time amca get ready for air force
Fighting against Pakistan doesn't mean we are the best all over the world especially the pilot is nothing without modern aircraft we may win against Pakistan without our modern technology 😅 but not against China or any other develop country
borame is 4th gen initially...later version would be 5th if things proceed without problems.to transit to 5th some structural changes needed
Also China j-20 cannot supercruise with their W-10 engine and the canards on the side of the planes is bad for stealth so at best it should be considered 4.5 gen which goes the same for su-57. Only US can properly build 5th gen design.
India's amca is a dream project and will remain so and fly high in high dream😂😂😂
Need burnol 😁🤣
Amca will fly after we have 100 Kaan fighter jet and began working on 6th generation 😂😂😂😂
India has some priorities first for India Missile is more important like ICBMs etc...
At the current pace. Maybe in 2060
2100
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It is believed the AMCA is already flying but Chinese could not detect it
You’re right because the Chinese don’t have the technology yet to detect something flying inside computer PPT software.
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@@superpooper_2030they do. Its called 'hacking' and as far as the amca is concerned. Dont you worry about it. Our people know when and how to use it. India does not have the most reputed defence forces for the sake of it. They know things better than experts like you.
India should also starts projects for bigger fighter jets like US b2 stealth bomber
How to put together 100 bajaj and give it wing to fly like a US B2???
China k samne khi nhi tikti india ki airforce dukh hota h but yhi haqkikt hai aaj india ki yha
The fittest organisation to develop an engine with ample thrust is ISRO
Incompetent Scientific Research Organization???
Funny :) Paper Jet ? Where is Tejas MK2 ? at least where is Tejas M1A? My grand children also will dream like me ..
Mk1A flew a long time ago.
Did it land properly.. 🤣🤣
AI needs to be integrated, I'm telling you amca will be bad ass, its not good to rush ahead of AI progression they are playing the right move
By the time India puts their own 5gen on the sky most of the other countries would've put 7gen on the sky.
Most of these countries can’t even build their own 5th gen mobile tech, how so u think these goat lovers will build a 7th gen fighter jet?
@@singleANDkicking South Korea already FLY its KF-21 5th gen stealth jet fighter. Only Indians are sleeping and as frog in a deep hole called India
@@singleANDkicking he's talking about European, North American, Russians and Chinese ppl.
We will have to get Tejas off the ground first.
Our scientist know this thing and that's why they are working on many 6th gen tech to incorporate those tech in today 4th gen fighters more like hybrid approach .
Indian 5 th generation fighter Amca just started the race.
Turkey and South Korea are halfway and USA,china and Russia had completed.
But the indians are believing they can still win race when their first prototype roll out in 20 years time😂
China and Russia are also behind.
@@ytn00b3 are u the umpire?🤣
@@Red.bulldozer3 If you think Russia and China's 5th gen fighter jets are completely 5th-generation fighter jet, I have nothing to say here but I will say your ignorance only. It is not as advanced as the US
@@plusultra7258 no I don’t agree. Your Mig 21 is more advanced than chinese fighters 😂
@@plusultra7258 Yes, you should have a lot to say, the least is your slave mindset and your blind worship of your white master the rotten USA. Go find out how many F35 have CRASHED, no less than Indians did to IAF
AMCA - first TEST flight likely to be 2040. Then it will be made obsolete. The rest of the world will have moved to 7th Gen fighters.
Who told you and where are you ??. First test would be in 2027 or 2028 kid
@@geforcegameing8059 With what engines in 2027 or 2028?
It will never happen, our politicians will never get kickbacks from indigenous development
The real question is not when will AMCA fly? The question is if it will ever fly? Tejas took 35 years to get from paper to IOC....with American engine, Israeli avionics....not indigenous.
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NOT entirely true .. tejas was stopped many times inbetween for many reasons .. yes, some missiles and avionics, engine are from partners so what... getting started is the hardest step... and simultaneously india HAS developed its own enjine but thrust of the engines needs work, and avionics/radars are now being deployed which are our own... so what exactly is your point.
World laught and reduculed us for our space programe , only to eat their own words and have the humble pie... with india we may take time but we will get there at our own strength with quality and precision... laugh to that mate !!
@@sandeepsandhu4286 "tejas was stopped many times inbetween for many reasons" Very convenient excuse ya.
"some missiles and avionics, engines are from partners so what..." So what? If the most important elements of the aircraft are actually manufactured by foreign suppliers, then stop calling that damn joke of a combat aircraft "indigenous" dumbass. So in actual fact, you spent 35 years just to design and build a short fuselage and weird funny looking at delta-winged aircraft.
I am very well aware of the Kaveri engine that all Indians have been talking about for the last 2 decades but have never been able to get it to work properly. Is that the same engine you're talking about?
My point? Did you not read my last post? "The real question is not when will AMCA fly? The question is if it will ever fly?" Which part of the simple English do you not understand?
Does the world need to wait for another 35 years for India to get from paper design to IOC for the AMCA?
Do you know why no foreign country wants to buy the Tejas?
If after 35 years of development, you still can't fix all the bugs, then this Tejas project is hopeless. The entire Indian aviation safety record is atrocious and appalling. Indian pilots with fake pilot licenses, very2 common. For the price of a Tejas, you could already get a much better plane from somewhere else. Indian after-sales support is practically non-existent. Indian contractual commitments are untrustworthy. Even your own Navy rejected the Tejas.
Space program? A desperate attempt to sway the conversation somewhere else are we? Hahaha....
Typical Indian stages of response when they have been called out for their bullshit in a debate.
1. Blanket denial and rejection of truth and facts.
2. Attempt at misdirection from their fuckup to something else.
3. Attempt to use any form of perceived power, position, or influence to kill the debate. Not possible in this case.
4. And finally the classic "@#%$&*^%". This always comes up at the final stage when all is lost.
You haven't gone to stage 4 yet, but surely very soon.
@@sandeepsandhu4286 Indian 5th generation fighter AMCA has been on mock-up stage since forever. that's akin to like still warming up before the start of the race. In case you didn't realize, the race started 3 decades ago.
Turkey and South Korea are well past halfway into the race.
USA, China and Russia had completed the race well over a decade ago. They are prepping up for the next race.
The Pakis, they didn't even bother to go to the starting point and jump in halfway down the track. Say what you will but there are no rules for these kind of race.
But the Indians believe they can still win the race when their first prototype rolls out 2 decades from now. And even that is a monumental MAYBE.
Meanwhile, the Pakistanis took the smart route by working together with the Chinese to come up with the cheaper but much better JF-17, well over 100++ built, now well into production of Mark III version, multiple significant international orders with just a fraction of the development cost/development time as compared to the Tejas.
It's obvious which is the success and which is the failure.
Now the Pakis are talking about acquiring J-20s from China and co-producing KAAN in the future........all this while AMCA is still just a pathetic mock-up display in aviation shows.
It sped up only after 2014
Very detailed video
You can also compare fighter jet
When India Brings out its 5th generation fighter it will be 5th generation for sure.
Long live bharat long live amca
Both are just delusion..
Usa will retire their f22 to induct Indias 11gen fighter 😂😂
I think India should buy SU 57 immediately,later Amca program will inducted slowly... delay is not good for our country security.
Russia is desperate now, they should buy su-57 and get production license for their latest engine design while they have a chance.
It's already there but the media and common people can't see..😅
........it is like Area 51 in the US new jets only fly with UFO.
By the time India gets this right, other countries have flying saucer already.
India should target for the 5.5 generation jet fighters instead of 5th generation to cover up the time gap in making 5th generation jets.
We can make 10x more advance jets than us and russia main issue is engine when it solves than you will see our progress
This is progress.
Apart from AMCA you said everything... Speak straight to the point !!!
There is nothing to speak about AMCA.. There is no AMCA.. only a wet dream.
By the time AMCA is operational in IAF, others will be already using 6th gen. fighters and will be on 7th gen fighter projects.
US knows , rest of the countries don’t have 5th gen yet decades ago . Probably they have 10th gen or time travelling anti gravity vessels super classified by now 😂✌️🫶🏽
To fly soon...nice after other countries started flying 7 gen not even 6, 7th gen. To fly soon first flight trial in 2035
It's simply better to buy the 5th gen from elsewhere. Actually, even the Saab Gripen is a great option.
Except Russia, South Korea may be a good source
KF 21 Borame isn't a 5th gen ....it's a 4.5 gen.
It is not completely 5th gen. It is 4.5 gen considering the fact that it does not has true stealth
We India are only mouth piece in social media.... Jealousy is our future...😢😢😢😢
@styong! Flying cow reached Mars in one attempt and landed moon lander in 2nd attempt 😂😂😂
I would only say beggars can't be chosers
In the meanwhile Pakistan became the largest exporters of beggers and terrorists
Begging for everything 🤲 but still ashamed of nothing🤷 - Pakistani in a nutshell 😂
looks like so called "Pakistan lumbar one sarr" people are only good at giving lectures XD
You Cry !!!
We laugh !!
Perfect. We have a great technology to stall progress in the realm of being selfish
Sorry state
Maybe make all decthru pmo dedicated staff
It will atleast take 4-5 years to make 1 prototype....and 10 years to fly
Indian general said that one Rafale fighter jet can take on five J-20s, so you don’t need fifth-generation aircraft.
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All components should be outsourced to different vendors who has expertise and proven track record then only it can be achieved within time frame , otherwise it will be a other Tejas which will be in developing stage forever or it will be rejected by IAF , atleast reverse engineering like china
Still just a dream for us because of so many unknown reasons
Whenever I see video of Amca and Kaberi engine ' to Karna parisan ho gea.
AMCA will fly very soon near about in2040.
2100 will be more appropriate
When America has 6th gen fighters and are willing to sell you their hand me downs for inflated prices.
Good basement yield solid Building likewise Robust Engine required for excellent fighter Jet, India is building up now 😅
I think India should buy J-20 or J-35 or FC-31 from China immediately, later Amca program will be inducted slowly... delay is not good for our country security.
I was inspired on hearing development of FGFA since 2008 but still its on pappers😢
nice channel keep it up
Please give the contract to the ulhasnagar contractor 100% guarantee they will ready it. 🤦♂️
Yes, first get Tejas in air then we can talk of Amca..
😢a 140cr populated country cannot make an aircraft where as smaller countries like south korea and turkey doing. The time india gets ready its 5th or 6th gen aircraft other countries will show up with 7-8th gen.
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at this rate, it will take a century to develope 5th gen aircraft. This is what you get when you value reservations over merit. The chineese, americans don't have reservations in their system. And if you want to compete with them, merit based society is a requirement.
Guess what after 6 months of this vdo we have a deal france will give the full 5 gen fighter jets engine technology to build ourselves 😊
Tejes full series complete by 2030+ than AMCA 😅😅
When India is threatened by other nations that is when India will take defense seriously. Concentrate on missile and drone tech……planes will become obsolete soon.
Amca will out in the year 2040...which will be out dated fighter jet in that year but will be still proud of it.
Privatize all defense PSU's
It took endia 40 years to put wings on a bajaj and make it fly.. they call it teJunk.
It's not easy for endia to make a flying bajaj to have low radar detection...
I'd say give them 100 years...
Summary of india: Humara barish khatam hone ke baad chata khulta hain
Amca will fly after 2055
Late of Decade
First flight around 😅2040, FOC in 2057😢 and first squadron level induct in 2065😂. HAL ka koi Hal nahi.
India takes 50year project to develop the plane this is next generation plane so india will fly amca in 2050 by then everyone will have 7th generation plane india will fly 5th generation
Turkey and S.Korea are not ahead as Turkish KAAN's future in uncertain, and S.Korea's Boramae isn't 5th Gen, it's just 4.5++ Gen. S.Korea did plan for 5th Gen, but that would come into picture after another decade, so S.Korea decided to jump to 6th Gen instead and we won't see any until post-2032. But having plane doing the flight testing and working with sensors and radar etc.. can be good as they can collect valuable data and flight results to improve and tune the hardware and software.
Neither Turkey nor South Korea has truly 5th gen fighter jet like the US has anyways. Even J20 is not completely 5th gen fighter jet. I will say 4.5 or a bit higher than that at best.
No need to built 5 generation fighter jets just buy 100 Su 57 from Russia . Concentrate made in india for 10 generation fightef jets .
Yaa India should have gone for F35. When America offered it.
When all the countries which possess 5th gen started early process n scientific research on the same what was indian administration administration doing in the late 80s n 90sq, they were sleeping on two projects the ALH ( Advanced light helicopter) & the LCA (Light combat aircraft) for many years , until the modi govt came to power HAL, NAL,ADA& the DRDO all got to their feet to fasten the lagging project , we should have started early , HAL was on a slow pace since 1971...
means lca tejas is 4.5 gen cause it as aesa radars
With corrupt politicians like Rahul Gandhi it will take India a couple of decades to develop an aircraft engine leave alone a fighter plane
Real soon ,in five years+.
Year 2050, AMCA to fly soon 😂😂😂
Never. LOL😂
AI IS THERE JUST PROBLEM OF METALLURGY & AFTER BURNER .THAT ALSO AI CAN SOLVE
We India got jealous among ourselves always 😂😂 we can never be super country....
NO NO NO In India things will this much fast especially when DPSU's are involved.
It will take atleast 10 to 15 yrs
Dear fellow countrymen we got delayed with the project due to our own administration not showing enough n more interest until the recent Modi govt came to power , The ALH ( Advanced light helicopter ) & The LCA ( Light combat Aircraft ) Both were lagging from the 80s on ... Only the modi administration fastened the programs and could catch up with the rest , otherwise our pilots would have been still flown the infamous flying coffins... Every other days news.. We need good leaders who can make HAL, NAL, ADA , DRDO & other organizations to keep them on their toes ...
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This dude sounds like the scammer that called me the other day saying he was from the IRS lol
If not for Khangress misrule for decades, we would be having this tech by now.
According to tajas
2050
True
By 2050 this shit will be in the junkyard
Seems our engineers are not capable...lets agree and get it from Russia...😂 Soon Pak will have 5th Gen fighter..
Looks like f22-raptures fighter jet.
Dude you have all the Indians accent they always mimicking Indians for....
Why to waste time in research and development when you can import and earn commissions.
KAAN with exposed tail thrusters is not a complete stealth fighter. It shows the limitations of Turkey R&D. If the thrusters to be covered it should be inside some heavy thermal withstanding material.
It will fly in 2035
Hmmmm....!
Ha, copy the J35
It will fly when we will loose arunachal pradesh
Every economy, military, science, philosophy, society in this world
There's an order, there's a step. There's absolutely no quantum leap. For India, complete Tejas first
India should stop with AMCA as it will reach nowhere better to buy an f35
2035 ma fly kar jai ga
India is capable to go on moon but not capable of designing its own aircraft it's clearly leadership failure.
All countries are copied the model of f22 and f35 of America 😂😆🤣