As a new army, I see the timeline of what they are talking about can be confusing. So I will explain. 1. When J-Hope says Big Hit needed someone who can dance and everyone started to dance he is not talking about when the BTS lineup was already formed. He joined Big Hit way before any of vocal line joined company. At the time when all trainees at that time were rappers. And after some time of him joining, the vision for BTS started to change and rappers were asked to learn how to dance. And many of trainees left the company because of that. So he is not talking about the timeline where Jimin already joined Big Hit as a trainee. 2. If Suga was not in BTS it would be an absolute travesty. Not only Suga produced and wrote some of most gut-wrenchingly honest BTS songs. Suga is the one, who gives realness to the group because of his own struggles, his openness and understanding, that people relate to him and BTS as a whole so much. For me it was Suga's written song that made me from casual listener to an ARMY. And I'm not alone. His music is comforting, because you feel that he actually knows and feels what he is talking about in his music. Ofc his personality is like cats. So either you cat person or not.
for my case, "Tomorrow" makes me full time Army (i have watch them since end of year on 2013. But i just like their music but still not into them (i am not really into kpop artist, only casual listener). Until they release Tomorrow. That song hit me hard n makes me become their fan 😁) and my bias is Suga after I know he is the one who produce n write Tomorrow. I like Suga realness and most of us can related with his song.
All i can say is that based on BTS info, Armys tend to make THEIR theories about the guys into reality and they start to spread it all over and you end up not knowing what's true and what's not, I too end up being confused, that's why I taught myself that I don't have to know EVERYTHING about them to prove my love for them 💜 thanks for reacting❤
true and they end up believing shippers and solo stans videos as facts. but many misunderstandings happen because bighit haven´t explained it well. but the more you dig yourself, you see how they came up with these misunderstandings. and you can form your own opinions of what happened. that´s how it was for me.
@@lealarsen2017this misunderstanding happened not because BH didn't explain well but because fans started to formulate their own narrative, their own theories, listen to narratives of other people, that don't like Bts.... to the point that they themselves believe it without even considering what BTS said. That's why when Tannies say to trust them.. just trust them. Not the narratives of other people because eventually little by little we will discover the meaning behind the things that they do.
yoongi has said that he actually likes being in the back. he actually made a joke on his tv show "schwita" with guest star (jimin) where he said he prefers the vocal like (jimin, jungkook, taehyung, and jin) to be in front of him and be the visual of the team. yoongi is like 95% of the reason why bts has such fucking bangers. the man is literally referred to as a musical genius. while yes, ALL of the members are included in the writing/producing of their songs; yoongi is just built different. the way he navigates music and just knows what sounds good and what doesn't is so ... appealing. he could write a song in a week and be done whereas it takes most artists months to write a single song. it took me awhile to warm up to yoongi when i first became an army in 2015. i had always acknowledged his good looks bc i mean .. the man is fucking gorgeous. but on a more emotional level, i felt we didn't have much in common. that was until a few years later when yoongi revealed more about his own personal struggles (some of which i was experiencing at the same time). i looked him up more and absolutely fell in love with his mindset, his personality, and his passion. and now he's my bias wreck :) trust, yoongi is truly amazing and he's such a sweet and wise person.
You guys are misunderstanding some things though. Jhope was saying he was the reason they changed into a dancing group, but you have to understand he joined BTS before Jimin and Tae. Jimin already came with some background hip hop dance experience as explained in his introduction video. Originally BTS was going to be a rap group, no dancing. Jhope joined changing it to an idol group with dance, then Jimin joined…
the problem is you think everyone who comments is army. the people youre complaining about are solo stans people who hate bts and only follow 1 member. theyre the ones who are insufferable and complain about those silly things. my only complaint ever would be if someone isnt following the subs/lyrics. youre also getting confused. they still do hip hop and no more dream era IS them. the hip hop group change theyre talking about is BEFORE their debut. they didnt change after 2013 the change occurred in 2011. idk how to explain it well but youre very confused. when we say bts didnt change we mean after their debut in 2013. the change bts are discussing in the documentary is before bts were bts.
They have created a space for solo Stans which is why they get A LOT of solo stans in their comments. You see a big difference in the comments section of reactors who actually seem to genuinely respect and like ALL the members.
Black Pink came on the scene several years after BTS but made their presence known in the American Music market either before or at the same time as BTS. HOWEVER they did not have the impact that BTS did in the US which was very ARMY driven…..so their fanbase targeted BTS and Blinks and Army have always been at war. It’s really sad that it can get so toxic. I, myself, don’t actually like kpop……I just like BTS….so I stay out of the fray with other fan bases….
Oh Jody, you’re in for a huge surprise about Suga, and that’s all I’ll say for now. In the beginning of my BTS journey, I also overlooked him because he was so quiet and always in the background, until I educated myself more. Boy are you in for a huge surprise!! 😅 Can’t wait till you get know more about Suga/Agust D!! ✌🏽
I genuinely don't think they were comparing themselves with groups that big. Groups like big bang or blackpink were big from the start. On the other hand, bts didn't win a single first place until 2 years later of their debut. That was probably what made them feel insecure. As Rm said, they had a sense of inferiority. They basically started from the bottom. Btw great video, I appreciate a lot your honesty. Merry Christmas 💜
@NotJustAnimeOfficial The music shows are still on every week in Korea. BTS still participated in them to perform and see ARMYs. Back then and now kpop artists have to do this to gain fans in the general public. That's why BTS were so anxious in their debut years about not winning. They needed these wins/success as their company were going into debt. They had no money yet.
You don’t know a lot about BTS and army relationship and it shows There was some disrespectful comments with zero knowledge about their career based in a 30 min episode of a 10 years career that started even before that
I know you will realize later that All 7 members are important and necessary for their own reasons! They are one together 💜💜💜 And at various award shows they all have spoken but you have to remember they are only presenting clips to make their points… not showing the entire segment perhaps.
22:49 it is time for you guys to take a dive into Suga solo project. You will see that he is one of the main pillar of the group. You guys just haven’t seen enough of Suga or the rapline projects.
Jimin already had a background in dancing before he join BigHit as a trainee that's why Training & Development team insist to BangPd to have Jimin as part of the debut team which is BTS despite having a short training period.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial on Hybe Label channel there is a mini series about the Development Team and how they trained. It rounds out the commentary in this. The dance teachers and vocal coaches, a psychologist. Really interesting. There are like 5 little vids about 5 - 10 mins each th-cam.com/video/71y2xhHOj98/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TfEQ5jb2Ex919-Tr
Just to clear something up, from all the schools of dance, contemporary was the one Jimin trained the least amount of time in, it’s just that classical dance demands you put your whole mind and body to it and rewrite everything you knew about movement. Jimin did popping and street styles for far longer than he did contemporary, but the latter was so ingrained in him when he joined BTS that doing anything else was hard for him. It’s because Jimin has a mixed background of dance and martial arts that he is the dancer he is today.
A couple of things that may help you to understand BTS and real army. 1. Army are not toxic. The more you encounter and interact with solos and haters you feel that the army space is toxic. You should learn to differentiate between army vs haters. If you disrespect or shade any of the members army will protect and respond. 2. Jimin was a contemporary dancer and he had some hip hop training but I am not sure how much before he joined as a trainee. I don’t know whether Jimin wanted to be in a hip hop group or not since I have not heard him saying anything regarding it. I am happy that he is now enjoying being part of BTS and exploring his dancing more. 3. About K-Pop idol culture, there will be multiple trainees and the members are selected based on tests. So for example, for forming a group of 4, there will 10 trainees and 4 will be selected from that. So Jimin not being Bang PD’s first choice has nothing to do with Jimin being less talented. 4. RM, Suga and J-Hope are the backbone of the BTS for a long time. It was not because vocal line is not talented but because most of them didn’t had experience which they have gained now. I hope you will try to dive into the members and try to understand their role in the team. 5. All members of BTS are important and each of them had their roles in the team from the beginning that made BTS the BTS today. If you feel that if X member is not there also BTS will work, I would say it is because you have not discovered that member yet. I want to emphasize that real army is not toxic until and unless you shade a member or is disrespectful towards a member. If you have not done either of these and you still find someone being toxic, then that person might be a solo/ hater. I would say you will get a better understanding of how the idol system works and also a chronological growth of BTS and bighit if you watch The Rise of Bangtan series. I would suggest watching this documentary after that so you will get the context of many of the things they are speaking here.
This whole reaction is pissing me off. I keep leaving and coming back to leave again. I dislike people who don’t like bts as a whole and only simp over 1 or 2 members
Suga is the producer of the group, he was the first one to recognize Jimin potential with his voice and he said he tells management any team Jimin is put on that is the team he wants to be on.
Leave. This time, don't come back. Why put yourself through unneeded stress like that? it's not that serious. Go to a channel that will tell you what you want to hear. There are PLENTY of those channels out there. @@DiamondPreston1234
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial you could also leave babe. Support an artist and NOT a group since you clearly don’t support bts as a whole and only Jimin. Bts is a group in case you forgot.
As an OG ARMY with a bias and starting early on there are some members to every group you flow with more than others and what he said isnt new alot of ppl who haven gotten to know SUGA have said things like that. Instead of getting bent out of shape for what he said on his channel eitjer move on and don't comment or give him content that would convince him otherwise..its that simple@DiamondPreston1234
I think you guys are misunderstanding BTS' relationship with ARMY, as well as who the majority of ARMY is. It's unfortunate. This documentary is straight up showing you how much we mean to each other yet you're somehow still concluding that BTS distance themselves from their fans when it's the complete opposite.
I never said they distance themselves from their fans. I said they cant be 100% honest with the fans because many of y'all are crazy AF and judgemental. RM literally said it! "would you still love us if we were brutally honest?" (paraphrasing) the truth is.... BTS is giving y'all 50% themselves.... the other 50% is hidden. and I UNDERTAND FULLY WHY THEY DO IT
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialThe larger the group, the more different people appear; this simply cannot be avoided. The army is a big fandom. There are many people who pretend to be army men, but only harm the guys themselves when they treat them badly. They are not real fans, that's my personal opinion. So please don't compare everyone as one person.🙏🏻 I'm new to the army and joined a news group in my country just to avoid the lone and toxic fans who might twist the information to their liking. Therefore, it is very important to watch the translation of the guys’ interviews to know what is happening. And of course, guys should have their own personal lives! They do a lot for us. As a fan, I understand this and don’t interfere with them!😊I'm sorry that guys have to deal with inappropriate people. I want everything to be fine in their personal lives and to be happy and healthy) You know, BTS comes when they are needed. Their songs and they themselves heal the hearts of people. For me it would be that year, their support helped me get out of a terrible depression. This is how you become an army)😌💜💞
@@jacque1in oh I know I felt absolutely horrible he had to address it people will never be satisfied no matter what. But I felt for him tho for sure just wanted to hug him honestly 😪
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialhe did not say would “you” still love us, he asked would “people” still love him if he was completely honest bc at the time they were receiving lots of hate from other people (idol companies, media, underground rappers, etc). They only had each other and ARMY to rely on and that’s why they are so close. They have talked about how much they value being open to ARMY and even in the video you watched has said multiple times, “ARMY know what I’m talking about” or “ARMY would understand “ because ARMY actually listens to what they say instead of sensationalizing their words for drama like the media tends to.
You guys should definitely watch some suga solo work as soon as possible, I bet he is going to be the best and favorite member of the group for you (my personal opinion), but right now don't judge him by his cover 💜 Also he one of the main producers of bts, and worked his ass off to get bts where it is right now
My bias is Jimin but Suga is the most complete artist in terms of creating his own music and the best producer of his generation.If you see the Suchwita, all the artists admire SUGA's work.
@@YenhaiMedina exactly, these ppl are just judging them way too fast, like cool down there is a long damn road down there which they have no idea especially when it comes to suga 💜
Can’t wait for you to learn more about Suga. You’re in for a treat!! Without him, there would be no BTS today. He has written/produced such a huge amount of their discography, including the album that turned the corner for them and catapulted them into success.
If you really want to know about Jimin's album and his song FACE, he discusses it during the episode with Suswitcha. He said it was about what he through during the pandemic and how he missed ARMY. It was also about how the distance affected relationships (he didn't say what kind). He did drinka lott during this time. Was he an alcoholic? NO HE WASN'T they drinka alot as a culture anyway. He just drank more than normal. Once they started back concerts he got better. As far as SUGA, he is an introvert, and he is one member who went through a lot, including family issues and depression. As far as SUGA, not mattering is far from the truth. He and RM write most of the songs, and he produces most of the songs. Maybe his personality doesn't resignate with you, but he definitely belongs in the group he was the main one fighting for baby daddy to stay!! Lol You guys are hilarious. I would suggest you watch The Rise of Bangtan, instead of Hustle life. It gives you insight on the The beginning of BTS, the change, and where they are now. It also explains K-pop as a whole, how groups are formed and the competition, etc... it's a 22-episode series. You would love it!! Also as far as ARMY, honestly within any group you will find true and toxic fans. The more BTS grew so did the Fandom. Some to me are bandwaginers lol they don't understand ARMY and BTS relationship.. I've been an ARMY since 2015. When the boys went through the rumors ARMY fought for them that's true ARMY. Now there is a divide, so many different reason ppl have joined the Fandom. Just do you. I tell ppl believe 50% of what you see and zero of what you hear unless it comes from the boys.
Jimin is widely known and acknowledged for his nonpareil talent and skill in dance. Having trained in different dance genres in his early years, he has developed a distinctive dance style that incorporates elements from each of the different dance genres, making it impossible to imitate his signature moves and thus placing him in a class of his own. In fact, he is ranked among the 'Elite King Dance line,' which consists of the top 3 dancers in the entire K-pop industry. His immense popularity overseas has also earned him the title of 'King of K-pop' in that most people and even media outlets outside of South Korea will always associate K-pop with Jimin. For example, some people may not know much about K-pop or even about BTS, but they will definitely know who Jimin is. With his widespread popularity and his unbeatable dance skills, it is not surprising that Jimin made an appearance in the first book ever on K-pop dance theory in the US. Not only was Jimin referenced in the book's text, but an image from one of his iconic stages could also be made out on the book's cover!
As someone who has Suga as a bias, I respect his opinion but I also understand that maybe you need to react to more of his videos to better understand all the incredible work that Yoongi does both solo and in BTS. I understand that you have the perception that he doesn't appear and doesn't stand out much, but he himself has already commented that it's his preference, he much prefers to participate in the production of the songs. But I encourage you to react to his solo work or the Suchwita program which is a program created by him where he talks to various artists. Suga has an incredible talent and I hope you can see that.
Suga is definition of real introvert, thats why you barely saw him on the screen. But he's the main producer and song writer, so bts definitely wouldn't run without suga. You just don't know him yet and thats fine😂
Jimin just dropped a gift for Army on 22 Dec called CLOSER Than This on Hybe Labels. Its beautiful and already topping charts incl in US where it overthrew All I want for Christmas :)
JUST A HEADS UP…for future reactions to this series. I had the same issue, back when Jhope and Sugas documentaries came out, I couldn’t find them. Disney+ did not take this down, it’s still up. What you have to do is go into your profile settings and change your age rating settings to TVMA, because it has adult subjects and language in it. You’re able to lock that profile with a 4 digit code, so that it won’t be accessible to your kiddos, and make them a separate profile. This way, you won’t have to go to a different platform to watch. Hope all is well with you guys. Great reaction and happy holidays! 💜💜
Ahhh yeah you buggin Jody lol. Yoongi (Suga/Agust D) is the main producer of the group. He literally carried BTS during debut days. He got hit by a car doing deliveries just to help make money for himself and the group, and never told the company and still kept dancing for YEARS without them noticing. Suga produced other songs for other idols to the point where companies beg for him to produce for their company/idols. In May he became the first Korean artist with a #1 on the Top Rap Album Billboard Charts in the U.S. You have GOT to do a deep dive on Suga, he's literally rapline personified. Matterfact, react to and pay close attention to the lyrics of the rapline cyphers 1-4
Sorry to fulfill your prophesy about disagreeing commenters, but if I considered all 11 years of BTS, Suga became the both the glue that held BTS together and the creative force that made BTS one of the most open and honest groups going. Leave it to the introverted guy who at moments seems detached to actually have the racing, iconoclastic, philosophical mind that help make BTS cutting edge in a sea of vacuous Idols singing love songs. And frankly I think his love of the other members may be the deepest as they gave him a supportive family to traverse all the vagaries of his not always stable being. Get to know Suga more deeply you will find a very unique and special human being.
I’ve said this before…..I love your commitment and attempts to try to guess what’s going on……and you are wrong so often that it’s endearing. I’m glad you’re watching this docuseries…..but maybe patiently watch thoroughly before making bold statements until you see it through🤣. As much as I hope you get a better grasp of their journey…..I still love your attempts at understanding….it’s what IMHO make you unique reactors. And of course…..I’m Jimin biased so I LOVE your comments about “Baby Daddy”. But I would like to add that it’s not that Jimin wanted to find his “feminine” side as so many comment…..he just didn’t want to be represented as a hard ass little thug…..he is definitely more of a lover/ flirt and is a tender hearted soul. They pushed the “toxic masculinity” more than he felt comfortable with! He has what is called a “gender neutral” charm.
why is it so bothersome for people when people describe jimin as feminine? he clearly is. maybe you don’t like that, but to the average person, he is by far the most feminine in the group. there’s nothing wrong with a feminine man. why the hate over that word? do you not like femininity?
@@CatharticCreationTheres a big difference between being a feminine man and being a man who neutralizes his masculine and feminine sides and traits. search up what a feminine man is then you’ll understand-
Guys you all don't know but blackpink's, EXO's fandom is the one who's always spreading hate towards BTS members, they even makes jokes abt tae's grandma (she passed away) till this day you will see on tw and Armys don't purposely attack on those people but when they spread negative things abt members we have to do something to protect them and the remember the V durag rumours you did, that was also started by a blink acc on tw (blackpink fan)
I can't wait to see them see the other Suga side😂 the AGUST D SIDE🔥🔥🔥❤he kept up doing most of the music and lyrics with RM along , in their pop and viral songs but the B-side of bts the rap line and his solo projects he is always liked by people who like hip hop and rap music and in these songs you can clearly see that dark and aggressive side Agust D!!!!🔥
22:29 I hope you get there eventually because then you'll see that Min Yoongi/Suga/Agust D is quite literally the backbone of BTS. Not the only bone in the back obviously, but you cannot walk if his part of the vertebrae is missing.
Out of all the members, suga is the MAIN producer. The rapline consist of Suga, RM and Jhope, wrote most of BTS songs so without SUGA or any members, there is no BTS. PERIOD.
When Jhope said that they need dancer, Jimin was still not part of the group. They only had RM and Suga that time, so him teaching Jimin is not part of it. Its your opinion on who is the best but just want to correct some matters. Jimin is the last member who joined BTS and was able to get MAIN DANCER and LEAD VOCAL position. He is more than a contemporary dancer.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial He is one of the Main Dancers along with Jimin. He is the first and only dancer until Jimin came and became a Main Dancer too along with him. Jungkook is the lead dancer ( 2nd dancer ) of the group. In other words, they had to rearrange the group when Jimin came months before their debut. The other 6 members have been together for a year already when Jimin came and enter the picture.
As a fan, all of the members are equally talented and needed in the group, the group would not be BTS without anyone of them missing. 💜 Though Army is a fandom group, do remember that with this in mind some may have bias, bias wreckers but all should be shown respect and love. And each fan feels differently and do not always think the same. Suga is heavily involved in most of the producing, composing and writing of their music catalog. There is a reason when he entered a rap contest hosted by "Big Hit", he took 2nd place. Even though, they were not able to let him go, then signing him to become the 2nd artist in the group. You'll see that in their early days he sacrificed alot to get the group where they are. Many hours of no sleep, endless days of writing and giving up his younger years to pursue his love and passion in music. He may not be seen as a major role in the group for people who are just getting to know the group, maybe because he is quiet and I think that tends to draw some attention away from him. But if you deep dive, you'll find that he is equally loved by fans. Such a talented, raw person who deserves all the accolades for all his contributions he has made in the music industry. ♥️ hopefully you get a chance to look into his personality and solo projects. You'll be surprised how wrong you are and that sometimes thinking out loud should not be made until you learn more of what you tend to state... also I ksut wanted to say "Yoongi, marry me!!!"💜💜💜♥️
can you read what jimin is saying too you just keep obsessed overhis looks like i get it but hes no just a pretty face what he says is important too. this is really to pay close attention to the captions not just the visuals. what theyre saying is most important.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I am chill how is asking you to read more not being chill. aren't u supposed to make the reaction enjoyable for viewers so we come back to watch? ain't that the point of reactors? genuinely asking. sometimes you talk over the video when it's answering your question at the same time. don't you think suggesting is helpful to grow?
Foreal. It’s always baby daddy this and baby daddy that. I would rather hear what you think of what he is saying instead of just getting excited his face is shown. I usually never say anything but like dang, do you actually like bts or just jimins looks?
@@DiamondPreston1234like we all agree jimin is handsome but real fans care about what he saying. and the whole point of reaction is to react to the video while simultaneously making it enjoyable for viewers. if we ain't enjoying it what's the point cause some just won't return and we know reactors react for views there's nothing wrong with tha but atleast make it so you enjoy it AND viewers enjoy it. I don't think that's too much to ask for. I wasn't even rude about it so idk why they told me to chill. like we ca watch the content elsewhere we are here specifically to see you react to it we saw the content already. the point I clicked on this video was to see a reaction not a ignore the words and focus on visual. like genuinely confused.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I agree with this person. Jimin actually has a lot of valuable things to say and he is very wise. We get you're attracted to him, and I am too, but you need to stop only focusing on his visuals, it's disappointing. The 'baby daddy' comments are getting weird when that's the only thing you can come up with when you see Jimin. All of bts are beautiful men, but rm once said that he doesn't want people following them because they're cute, he wants people to follow them for their talent and message. You need to get it together and learn to take feedback from your audience or your channel won't survive. I don't even subscribe to you but I stumbled across this and read these comments. This is coming from someone who is a jimin bias btw.
Jimin is a real HipHop dancer. He was a street dancer and took part in some battles. Jimin is the most versatile and can be used in any genre because he is also a quick learner.
What are you talking about? Jimin was not a street dancer. He studied contemporary dance in high school, but he did learn hip hop. The battle you have seen was at the time he was learning hip hop dance.
Please be realistic, Jimin himself has said that he had to work twice as hard because his movements were very delicate and they were looking for a more explosive dance
Are you tripping?? Cause that would be J-Hope... Jimin is a contemporary dancer and was first in their art department. Jimin needs to work harder cause Hip-hop is Different from what he learned.
you guys NEED to watch suga solo content...this man is a pivotal part of this band...he is literally their main producer for multiple hit tracks.....they cannot do without him...and same goes for all bts members they are in it coz they cant do without even 1.
its not that armies think blackpink is talentless, its just that blackpink doesnt really showcase their talent, jisoo could take dancing classes and become even better than she is now, bc everyones pointed out how shes stiff while dancing, jennie can 100% sing and dance but for some reason she just doesnt give her performances that much attention, and rose is just an instagram model from what we’ve seen now, lisas the one carrying the group
❣Jimin, growing up, since quite young age, even pre mid school, was always into hip hop & r&b music. Aside from Rain, Taeyang, & BoA, Korean idols, known not just for amazing vocals, but their dance ability, Jimin was also heavily influenced, with other role models, such as Chris Brown, & Usher. So it goes to follow he’d also appreciate other equally well known artists who also were amazing dancers & performers aside from vocal ability. It also goes without saying that Jimin, was indeed heavily influenced by MJ. He even taught Jin to moon dance for Dynamite MV, also Jimin was the one that suggested other MJ moves also for BTS song “Dynamite”. Jimin already at early age of 10, started studying hip hop at the renowned Just Dance Academy, in Busan, city where Jimin’s from, which teaches all the many different styles of hip hop. There is even a post made that shows a performance where young again 11 Jimin in 2007, not only performed already, on right front side of stage, but later on went in front and did a solo. JIMIN also competed, excelling in popping, & isolation moves, winning every competition. JIMIN also since a little boy, trained 8 yrs in various forms of martial arts: Taekwondo (blackbelt), Hapkido, Kendo, & Chinese martial arts. Side Note: When learning Taekwondo, as a little boy, I believe Jimin said that doing the splits was one of the first things required to be able to do. He said that he'd put his legs split, up against the wall for quite long, hrs at a time. This was aside from still attending middle school Jimin, where he was already into all kinds of sports, including being part of soccer team,, but also basketball, even joined after school billiards, also excelling in track & field throughout his schooling. Then, while going to Busan Highschool of the Arts, he then also studied & performed contemporary. Media even called Jimin “The rising star of Busan” after seeing Jimin perform on stage during a huge festival. JIMIN also studied, some ballet as well as even traditional Korean dance. But Jimin’s main love was always hip hop. Though he did enjoy dancing contemporary, which Jimin indeed excels at, to this day all his dance movements, have his exquisite body placement, amazing elegant, poised, clean lines, as well as he also always stands, even without dancing, with out-turned feet, his foot positions always end up while dancing in classical out turned foot position, placement that classically trained dancers have. Jimin found he could express himself even more through contemporary dance. Very few dancers have the ability to dance as many styles of dance as well as have the ability to incorporate all of them, even his gravity defying, martial arts, moves in his dance. There’s a reason Jimin was not only give the official title of Main Dancer & Lead Vocalist, but has been awarded the prestigious titles for 5 yrs In a row, Best Dancer in Kpop, as well as 5 yrs King of Kpop. Jimin is called Stage Commander for a reason, his stage presence is on another level. Jimin is also called “Rookies Bible” because all rookies look up to him, watching his erformances. over & over, trying to emulate, & learn from his unmatchable, flawless, precise moves. So many trainees & rookies choose his songs to try to copy when competing, though even without singing, but just focusing on dance, always still fail to even come close.
Suga did 28 concerts for D-Day tour. He is the only one who was able to manage it and Army is proud. Have a look at some of his documentary material from that to make up your mind. Oh dear.
Idk if someone said this already but I think there was a miscommunication about the whole 'hiphop group' thing 😅 they were supposed to be a rap group, but all that changed BEFORE debut. They were (and are) still an idol group that does hip-hop, that never changed
Omg these comments are a mess. I haven't watched the video yet because i haven't slept and I'm going to sleep before watching it, but just by briefly reading the comments: 1. No, BTS couldn't be BTS without Yoongi (Suga). He's NOT the main producer for the group (they have loyal in-house producers that have been with them since the start), BUT he IS the one who produces the most among the members. And he DOES produce a lot of music for himself and other artists besides BTS (like a lot). He IS one of the main writers, below only RM, and he DID produce some of BTS most beloved songs such as "Dead Leaves", "Ddaeng", "First Love" etc. 2. Jimin is a professional contemporary dancer, but he also did street dancing. He was the last person to be added to the group. J-Hope was the third one to enter. BTS formation order goes as follows: RM -> Suga -> j-hope -> Jin -> Jungkook -> V -> Jimin. Idk what y'all said about this topic but, to be clear: Keep in mind: Main > Lead > *no specification, just the name of the position, ex: singer, rapper, dancer* > Sub Leader =/= Lead BTS GROUP POSITIONS + MAJOR JOBS RM - Position: Leader, *Main* rapper Jobs: Mainly songwriter and composer, sometimes producer Suga - Position: Lead rapper Jobs: Mainly songwriter and composer, often producer j-hope - Positions: *Main* dancer, rapper, sub vocalist Jobs: Mainly songwriter and dance *leader*, composer Jin - Position: Vocalist, visual Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer Jungkook - Positions: *Main* vocalist, *lead* dancer, *sub* rapper, center Jobs: Vocal guides, sometimes songwriter, composer and producer V - Position: Vocalist, dancer, visual Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer Jimin - Positions: *Main* dancer, *lead* vocalist Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer The Leader position is not the same as the Lead position. The lead position, as well as main and sub etc have to do with skill set/abilities. The Leader position has to do with leadership over the group. Both Jimin and j-hope are main dancers, but j-hope is the dance leader because he learns the choregraphies fast and teaches the rest, he also helps directing their performances alongside the performance director, it has nothing to do with who is better than who. The lead dancer, which is below the main category, is Jungkook, because he is an extremely good dancer, just not technically as good as j-hope and jimin, and I mean "technically" literally, about technic. 3. BTS was ALWAYS a hip-hop idol group from debut. They were supposed to be a rap group BEFORE debut, but that idea was tossed away and they started adding singers prior to debut to debut as an idol group. 4. Bang Shihyuk does not *hate* Jimin like solos are talking about. BigHit was a small startup when BTS debuted, prior to that they were even smaller. The goal was to find people they thought were prepared to debut and have a chance at success, Jimin had a trainee period of months before debuting and that is not secure enough for a small company debuting it's second group with a lot at stake since the first one failed. Debuting him was a gamble because usually people spend years training before debut, that's why Bang Shihyuk wasn't sure they should debut him, and that's *it*. That's what the potential talk is all about. Anyways, I'mma go to sleep and I'll watch when I wake up and make another complementary comment if necessary.
I think you should consider reacting to The Rise of Bangtan series created by ARMY, if you want to learn more about BTS and K-pop in general. It would give you more context about the K-pop and the boys. It was created with a purpose to educate people who have no idea about idols
Jimin said he almost got fired multiple times before debuting. Bang pd DID NOT WANT HIM THERE. yet just the other day, RM said that BTS without jimin would have been a disaster.
@nanc4782 why are you so mad that a random youtuber likes jimin lol. if you don’t like people being jimin-biased, just find a youtuber that does. are you twelve? just exit the page like a normal person.
i was like that too about Suga in the beginning but suga likes to be unnoticed he has that type of personality. but when you see suga only content you really understand how he is. and now he is my second favorite member. the way he views the world. he is very smart like RM but very deferent personalities. so when they rap it´s so wild to see the two opinions of the same topic. Rm is honest but he likes to be poetic in his lyrics witch makes it hard to interpret what he actually mean. but with Suga it´s just blunt, honest and raw. but when it´s him just talking he is not the same open person like RM. but his lyrics is the gateway to his soul. i have always said it. if you want to know suga read his lyrics.
Guys, I’m genuinely just trying to give information to you here bc I know it gets confusing when you don’t have all the information and are trying to fill the blank spaces yourselves, when they say that “BTS was supposed to be a hiphop group with RM as the center” they mean the time around 2010-2011, RM joined bighit in 2010, the first member, there were other artists at the time who were also rappers and producers like Supreme Boi (who still works for bighit as a producer and was featured in the Cypher pt.3 from the rap line) and also amother underground rapper named IRON, this was ALL pre debut (years before any other member joined Bighit and years before the No More Dream MV), they intended to debut together and even released unofficial songs together as BPB for “bulletproof boys” (not bulletproof boySCOUTS, which is BTS), one of those songs was “Bulletproof pt.1” and you can still find reuploads of this song and others on TH-cam. BangPD would eventually change his mind when Jhope came into the picture in 2011 and decided to start turning this hiphop group (that was not meant to be in the K-pop industry AT ALL) into an hiphop centric IDOL group (that would be part of the K-pop industry, go to K-pop tv shows, k-con, etc), that meant Suga and RM (as well as the other rappers at the time) would NEED to learn to dance and be IDOLS. In late 2010/early 2011 Suga had auditioned through their rap competition and J-hope auditioned as a dancer, they were added to the lineup for *BPB*, THIS was the group that was intended to debut as a hiphop group with RM at the center (not idols, so no dancing), but it was the addition of j-Hope that started to change things and the vision of what this group would be. With this change, both IRON and Supreme Boi were not a good fit for this group anymore. And in the following 2 years all the members of the vocal line (JK, V, Jin and Jimin) would be scouted or audition to become part of the company and eventually becoming trainees to debut as BTS (bulletproof boy-scouts), some member changes occurred until their actual debut in 2013, for example BTS was supposed to be an 8 member group with the last member to join being Jimin (he was the 8th member) who had only six months as a trainee in Bighit, however one of the members decided to leave, making BTS a 7 member group turning Jimin into the 7th member. THAT is why when BTS debuted, the side track for their FIRST ever EP as BTS (a HIPHOP CENTRIC *IDOL* group) was titled BULLETPROOF PT. 2, bc pt.1 had been unofficially released by BPB, the hiphop group that did not dance AT ALL and had RM as the center back in 2010. RM worked on both of these songs. Part of the main reason why BTS debuted as a hiphop idol group was bc BangPD wanted the boys to be involved in the creation of their music, but the only members who had ANY experience with writing and producing music were RM and SUGA, two of the oldest (not in age, but in time in the company) members who been planning and preparing to debut for years at that point. BangPD demanded a level of authenticity in their songs that only hiphop could bring at the time, but ALL the members wanted to be and debut as BTS knowing full well that it was a hiphop centric IDOL group. They were not forced by the company to do anything. I recommend you watch Boracity Magazine’s video on the “Chapter 1 of BTS discography” if you want to learn more abt BTS’s formation and beginnings in a more concise manner bc she follows a very precise timeline that goes back all the way to 2008 (5 years before BTS debut) when RM was still releasing songs as an independent artist named Runch Randa
Jimin was always the dancer he’s literally the best dancer in kpop. He was trained in hiphop + contemporary. Jhope (main dancer also) joined first before him he’s older that’s why he said the group needed a dancer at that point. Go watch jimin freestyle properly not where he is joking around before any conclusions. Do you even know how many Kpop idols have jimin as their role model? How many solo awards jimin has from dance? Lmao you cannot box him into one thing and then also undermine it he’s so diverse. Mind you jimin always stands out doing the actually bts choreo cause he adds his jimin trademarks so much so that professionals have said idols will never be able to copy that jimin style
@@purewaffling Not really you never see the members or the captions call Jimin a dance leader and that is not hate towards Jimin it’s just what it is and how they consider Jhope.
@@fatimakerrar well no even Jin said he learns the best from jimin. I honestly believe that cause he’s older the hyung roles of him being ‘leader’ fell that way tbh. And that’s no hate to jhope cause he’s good at what he does. And no offence in general dance leader/teacher is not an official position in Kpop so that takes nothing away from jimin since he’s not required to be one. It’s Main dancer + the other lead dancer. Jimin Jhope are thee main dancers and Jungkook is below as lead dancer.
@@fatimakerrarno hate to jhope but ofc he is the leader coz he is hyung and he came first. It wud be a disrespect if Jimin becomes the leader who came LAST member right? Even 6 months training he got MAIN DANCER. He also helped in choreo. And op was right, JIN learned from Jimin and everytime he wants to rest, he looks at Jimin and gets inspired by him. JIN said Jimin is a perfect idol. Jimin teaches RM, V and JIN the most. jhope is great on what he does but Jimin is allrounder. Only Jimin is the musician who got National awards which includes the fan dance and was titled DANCE KING by media and kpop industry thats why Rookies study Jimins dancing (Rookies Bible)
Re your conversation on RM doing the speeches at 1.00.00. Yes he does share the mic and they all speak. In fact RM encourages them to speak. You have to remember you are watching edited versions , clips don't always give the full picture. Hope that answers your question
We all love Jimin as well, but please refrain from over indulgence in him because that will generate even more unwanted hate towards him. OT7... we are for all seven members, and they are equally precious. Some people will fight among themselves regardless of what the truth is. We are here for the boys and to support them in whatever they do.
You are wrong Jody. E Man remembered Jimin trained in hip hop too outside his arts high school and did lots of street battles and won incl against teachers. You need to watch Park Jimin dance evolution by The Jimin Videos. Jimin learnt contemporary, ballet, folk and jazz in arts high school with contemporary as a major although he was good in all according to his teacher.
I think his point was that J-Hope is on that level of dance with hip hop that he could freestyle on the spot, no problem. As talented as Jimin is, J-Hope has always been on another level with it
Exactly. Armys can help many times to share information but always believe mainly what the boys say because, as you said, there are fans who like to exaggerate or share false rumors
Jimin and Suga had a whole conversation about Chim Chim's drinking and this album. Army just love correcting people and acting like they know better than everyone, even when they are wrong. Also a lot of them don't understand how subtext and interpretation or music works 😂🖤💜
Also, many posts come off harsher and more childish than they should because they use google translate, majority of comments are not English speakers, but I agree, lots of kids who shouldn’t be unsupervised on the internet.
@@jacque1inTH-cam army are terrible, idk about tiktok cuz i dont really see any young ones cuz im not on the cringey side of tiktok. but twitter had the best army community
1:12:56 when they won this award the kpop twitter was a mess.. they said it was just a paper award and unimportant. They criticized Jin for bringing the award at the airport and showing it. The fandoms united against them. A lot of hate everywhere from BOTH opposing sides. ARMY was alone in defending BTS.
It's obvious that you don't know who is Suga aka Agust D for you to say what you say about him. No Suga = no BTS, since he and Rm wrote the majority of BTS songs. And for your information, Suga is one of SK's top producers.
They weren’t a rap group turned idol, they debuted as an idol hip hop group. I think you guys think they came out just hop hop and decided to change half way into dancing idols but they debuted that way. It was all finalized before debut. However their style evolved into les hard hip hop into more chill pop/hip hop.
You guys should really refrain from saying offensive comments regarding the members and who is important or not in the group. YOU are new to this and not the other way around. Try to understand the difference between constructive criticism vs baseless yapping of solos. You said you haven't really seen anything from Suga yet you say shit like he isn't important and is easily removable, like no you just are unaware of his contributions in the group. LEARN BEFORE RUNNING THAT MOUTH AROUND. You aren't the 1st to say shit like that and you also won't be the last but still, it's better you educate yourself. Also with Jimin...he is more than a pretty face. PERIOD. GET THAT SHIT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
if you’ve actually watched any of jody’s content you’d know that he obviously loves jimin beyond his pretty face. he regularly praises and goes into detail about his dancing and character. get over yourself.
20:20 When they planned to build a hip hop rap & producers crew, they had an entirely different members - RM, Suga, Jhope, i11evn, Iron, Kidoh & Supreme Boi. Mid way when they changed the concept to idol group, 3 rappers remained, and the vocalists joined the group - in order Jin, JK, V, Jimin
Lol suga is a genius producer man! BTS needs Suga. Can’t wait for you to know him. He is a silent genius and very very raw as a songwriter. I highly recommend The Last, First Love, Haegum, Daechwita with explanation since Korean references are a bit hard for foreigners to grasp, Snooze, and Amygdala. Note that in a lot of these songs he is the only one in credit as producer and songwriter, and even has a hand in mv planning and everything.
keep in mind, it’s very presumptuous to draw concrete conclusions with so little info in your arsenal. there’s 11 years worth of densely packed history and you haven’t even scratched the surface. while we all do it and then amend as we learn more, the difference is most of us aren’t posting videos of our speculations, so you gotta expect people telling you you’re wrong (while also being wrong 😂). i hope you guys continue to watch bts content because you like them and like learning about them, and realize how nuanced their characters are and the situations they’ve been in.
watching you guys learn about bts and broaden your understanding of other cultures is what drew me to your reactions. but guys, objectifying and belittling high school girls (JK's classmates) and/or any aged females, army or not, as nothing more than "p--sies" is just f-ing gross af and a complete turnoff. you can do better. my fam watched you guys bc it was fun and intriguing to see you guys come to navigate, learn and grow in your own individualistic ways while endeavoring to understand BTS's story. besides that, BTS doesn't have to have a multiracial group to be legitimized any more than J5 or any other black group would *have* to add anyone to their group for their race or skin tone in order to be legitimized. that said, unfortunately, we couldn't stomach watching you beyond halfway thru this reaction - despite being low-key excited to see you guys do a reaction on the BTS Monuments series (one of *several* official BTS documentaries). this current series doesn't go thru every bit of BTS history because there's so much of it. maybe you'll give yourself time to to realize that as you react to more content, or not. we won't likely watch anymore of your vids...which, no doubt, ya'll won't sweat one bit. hopefully, you get the point. on a few side notes, you may not think much about Suga (aka, Min Yoongi, aka Agust D) - tho he's among BTS's main award-winning songwriters. regardless, his new solo album, "D-Day" was just included in AllMusic's list of "Favorite Rap & Hip Hop Albums of 2023" (there were 3 million album entries vying for the list). If you're unfamiliar w/ AllMusic, it's an American based list. as for BTS's dancers, JHope, as BTS's dance Leader, has a style that's has always been hip hop based; Jimin is obvi classically trained, but also trained in hip hop dance (Jimin/JHope/JK have several dance practices on vid, referring to them as 3J); JK wanted to b-boy when he was younger (he was sent to the US to train for BTS); Suga used to b-boy as well (according to him). according to Suga (also during an interview with Jimin on Suga's own youtube show), Suga said that Jimin was supposed to be brought on to as a rapper for the group, but Suga said Jimin's voice was so nice that he should be a vocalist (Suga supported Jimin). when suga kept asking Jimin to perform w/ him on Suga's 2023 tour for Suga's song that he and Jimin performed together before (Tony Montana) Jimin himself was reluctant because Jimin sees himself as not 'that hard' (if you see Suga/AgustD solo performances, you'll get the sense of what he means by "hard"). Jimin does have an appreciation for hip hop (his fav artists that he's openly mentioned are in the hip hop and R&B genres), he just didn't like the harder persona/vibes that were expected of him/BTS in their earlier years. Jimin expressed feeling like more of himself after they changed their look/direction.
Got Dayum that's a lot of words! You really told us! So many people are out of touch with sexuality these days... Just saying the word orgasm makes some of y'all throw up in the mouth. No wonder why suicides are up.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialthis such a corny nd lame reply to someone telling u not to make such sexualized comments about women in general. “So out of touch with sexuality” yet u r the one turning a completely normal interaction sexual. All because it’s a primarily female audience. If u can’t see women beyond their ascribed gender what does that make u? U r grown adults acts like it. ppl r trying to correct u yet u r acting dense.
The best way to get to know the members is their solo projects. I think starting that way gives newer people an appreciation for each one. This is vital for not only Suga/Agust D but also j-hope. For example, j-hope's Jack in the Box album (MV's "Arson" and "More") and solo performances show a darker, edgier side to him than his usual sunny persona.
You have many solo stans as your subscriber, they're not Armys they just like one member and spread hate abt other indirectly or directly, but it's not just you all the reaction channel have these solos
Yes, because I make so much money from reacting to BTS! I MUST be doing it for the views and money! How will I spend the $147 Ive made since October??? I think I'll buy me a one way bus ticket to Vegas!
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I said nothing about monetary gain. Maybe once you learn more about the group, then you’ll realize why each member is important in the group. Stay healthy. Vegas is a fun place, hope you get to visit one day.
DO Not take Jimin's major in contemporary dance for granted thinking he is only good in "ballet" Jimin is the most versatile dancer of the group, he can do house, hip hop, pop, latin, traditional, modern dance smoothly, he is the MAIN DANCER of the group, when BTS debuted their portfolio stated that Jhope is the sub dancer and Jimin is the main dancer that many armys are unaware of, later on it was established that they both were main dancers but Do NOT underestimate Jimin's dance skills in the light of jhope, Jhope is a hiphop dancer while Jimin is good at more than one genre, He has bagged multiple national and yearly awards for Dance
If you can figure out your Disney Plus situation there are actually 2 documentaries by J-Hope and Suga that are available on there to watch. J-Hope In the Box and Suga: Road To D-Day. I think watching Suga's doc will help you understand him more.
Watching Suga and Jhope documentaries will expand their knowledge too and appreciate not only 1 member but how others really working so much their butt to create a beatiful and unique music especially my boy who is really very workaholic , i know they all are 🫰💜 but im sorry Suga is such so beyond a very hard worker.
Suga's alter ego (in music) is AgustD which is basically Suga spelled backwards Agus +T(Town)+ D (Daegyu) his birthplace. AgustD is a much more darker & aggressive form of SUGA & has a scar under one eye. Please react to the trilogy 1 Daechwita 2 Haegeum 3 Amygdala
You guys should definitely check out the raplines solo work and the true history and background of BTS before passing judgement or making statements based on things you don’t know about .. BTS was three members in the beginning as an all hiphop group RM ,Jhope , and Suga .. then along the way they transitioned into a idol group and the other 4 vocalists started joining in and most didn’t have backgrounds on much dance other than jimin and jhope taught them all how too dance different styles and how too be a performer
I understand your opinion about yoongi but he is the main reason of why most of the song are sooo good because he is like the producer for the groupe also because in an other documentary suga said " they told me that u was here for producing and not dacing". I hope you can learn more of yoongi and the members with run bts the show 😊❤. I watch your video from France and my english is not that goog sorry but i like your reaction you are honest and true with it so thank you ❤
He's not the producer, their producer is pdogg, slow rabbit etc. Yoongi does produce for them, but not nearly as much as their inhouse producers. In fact, he produces more for himself and other artists.
@@marirezende8478 Bts refers to suga as one of their producer though? I remember seeing it in one of there interviews. th-cam.com/video/qsobCAGiuRU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B4PSgtXqWhbUXTMG
To be fair, there are fans from other groups who come in to comments and act like a-holes to make army look bad . They even talk bad about their own groups to make us look bad. We’ve seen communications where they have planned these things. It’s crazy.
Genuinely hear me out, this is just a suggestion, but I think you both need someone who is army and has been for years to help you with reactions, bc I understand that you both know next to nothing abt K-pop, the K-pop industry and its history and you have a tendency to compare and look for similarities between BTS’s label and American labels without understanding they had different audiences, practices, cultures, goals, etc. I think much of the disconnect armys are feeling with you guys is your lack of knowledge on BTSxARMY story, the K-pop industry itself and how things work in Korean music, and how different BTS itself has always been from K-pop and how different armys are to K-pop fandoms. I think specially when it comes to the honest message they have always put into their music, you’re missing out on a lot. I like the format you came up with to react to dance practices and try to guess the visuals for the MV, but I think it has lead to you not paying as much attention to lyrics. It is truly ironic and frustrating for armys who have been here for YEARS to hear you say “this isn’t really them” when the entire point of the song “no more Dream” was to tell teenagers at the time to question what their own dreams were, for them to do what THEY want to do regardless of what their parents, teachers or society was telling them their dreams or path to achieve those dreams should be. In the first EP there’s a skit, which is basically a track (not a song) that was made out of recordings from their conversations, they do this in the form of a skit, they are acting as if they’re all in school together and skipping class to talk, RM mentions a Korean hiphop group named Epic High (they were not idols or part of the K-pop industry like BTS was since their debut) this was a group that gave major inspiration to RM and Suga to become rappers. RM mentions that their song “Fly” was what inspired him to make a song, Suga says he went through the exact same experience, then they go around each member to talk abt what they were doing during the time “Fly” by Epic High was released, what did they dream of (before BTS). I think it would help your understanding of BTS more to have someone with you who has been here for a while to help answer your questions and explain the timelines a bit better bc sometimes you guys get confused, which is understandable, there’s a lot of information to digest
I wanted to say thank you again for your reaction to BTS’s music and various content. It is always interesting to watch a lively and unconventional discussion. And it's good that you have a personal opinion. I would like to say that you really need to look, study other people in the group and see the whole picture. There are a lot of interviews and bangtan bombs on their channel. There is a book about BTS, it appeared in stores this year. You can find it freely available on the Internet. The more you learn about them, the more interesting it becomes. The guys really have become a family over the years.
All 7 members are needed in the group and to know that why? You should checkout their content their positions,ik many Armys are very angry and it's understandable bcs yoongi is very very important, he's litrally one of the main pillar of BTS so i hope instead of thinking Armys are bad people you should learn more abt other members too, because i love watching your unfiltered, not sugarcoated real reactions 💜
Check your settings to see if it's set to display MA content. I know when people couldn't find Suga and J-Hope's documentaries it was because they had the default settings to not show MA content. I live in the US and mine shows up just fine but I also changed my settings a long time ago.
Jeez just focus a little more, they said in the middle of the first episode that people were comparing them a lot to big agencies, and RM said they felt inferior because of that.... Thats why JHope said later they were doing comparisons with other groups because medias and opinions exhausted them with that. It seems you're too biased watching these videos with opinions already established in your heads... Thats not how it works.... You have to be patient and learn more
There's so many comments, and so many saying the same things. I don't know how you go through it all, but thank you for interacting with some. 🤭 It's Lief from Patreon, who send you the link.🌳 I was waiting with my thoughts because I thought there'd be a uncut on Patreon. But already found out there won't!! Glad you had my link as backup, I'll do the same for the next episodes if you need. So good that you're watching this docu, I'm excited for the next episodes and what'll be showed. It's best to listen to BTS directly. It's actually so cool that you're taking the time to dive into this, so thank you. I think you're entering a phase where you're realizing the company also has company interests. Which is true, because it's still a company that has to carry staffs and projects and all kinds of capital. BTS' company in particular solely existed for and because of BTS for a very long time. From 2013 until 2019, they were the ONLY artist and income stream in the company. Which is out of the ordinary, because that's so risky. Even now the company's revenue is for 70% generated by BTS. (Interesting: the BTS boys now hold official shares and voting rights in the company, as only artists to do so) So that pressure of having to carry the entire company was definitely on the BTS boys shoulders. On the other hand, if you listen to their words... they never once indicate it's the company controlling them. Jimin even says the company offered them a 6 months break, but that BTS boys turned it down because it did not seem right since their carreer was finally going good. People had expectations for them, so much of pressure came mostly from outside (country, media, industry and public). The pressure and expectations in Korea, and maybe Asian society as an whole, are just much higher. Any misstep or embarrasment is just unacceptable. Especially for someone that represents Asians as an whole in the global music industry. I find it hard to place myself in BTS' feet, because I'd gladly have accepted that 6 months break in a heartbeat. But working hard, to the point of becoming mentally or physically ill, is almost a given to most Koreans. If you're not putting in 16 hours a day, you'll be scolded by any parent or any auntie or even by yourself. I'm not saying this to glorify that work ethic. Because I'm a priviliged European that does not live to work, but rather works to live. I just don't care about making carreer, I just want to make money to get by and live my life. I want to quote an interview from RM with an important European art magazine, about the work ethic in Kpop (I'd link it, but youtube blocks any links in comments). 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷 This worship of youth, of perfection, of overstraining in Kpop... Are these Korean cultural traits? People in the West just don't get it. Korea is a country that has been invaded, devastated, torn in two. Just seventy years ago there was nothing. We were getting help from the IMF and UN. But now, the whole world is looking at Korea. How is that possible, how did that happen? Because people are working fxcking hard to improve themselves. You are in France or the UK, countries that have been colonizing others for centuries, and you come with "Oh God, you put so much pressure on yourselves, life in Korea is so stressful!" Well, yes. That's how you get things done. 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷 It's probably one of my favourite answers RM has given. It's clearly a difficult question that tries to put him and his culture down. Rather he comes out with "LISTEN COLONIZER". He's amazing for having the guts to say that to a white man's face. I love it.
the fact that bang pd couldnt see jimin’s greatness goes to show that bts was pure luck for him. he obviously has terrible taste. thank god there were people in the company who weren’t blind or else bts wouldn’t have made it.
Dudes you're saying a lot of ish without taking the time to learn more.... Bang PD didn't dislike Jimin at all.. Jimin was the last from BTS to join the company, so first he didn't have enough time to adapt to the group and to improve his skills, his training period was less than 6 months while the other members lived and trained together between 1 to 3 years, and when Jimin joined the company didn't have enough funds to provide him the same training program so he learned a lot with JungKook and the rest of the members while living with them... Thats why Bang PD said he was incomplete and hesitated to make him debut.
army in denial yet again. i’m not a solo stan but even i can tell bang had his preferences. if that was the reason, why didnt anyone go into detail about it? where are you pulling this info from?
@@CatharticCreationI guess its Jk they are kind of obsessed with Jk 😂 he is my bias too bit i love all seven together not individual and yeah Jimin is the prettiest one among them
@@CatharticCreation I'm not in denial, I just pay attention to what they say without using a sentence out of context... Jimin said himself in their interview on "You Quiz on the Block", he wasn't recruited at first for BTS because he joined BigHit only 6 months before BTS's debut, but since he feared to not debut he asked to join JungKook and V's vocal lessons to watch and practice what he learned late at night.. At the time, his training was focusing on his dancing skills because he needed to adapt his dancing style.. And since he worked really hard, the members and some staff supported him to debut with BTS instead of waiting the next group... Thats why his training period was incomplete.. And yes BigHit did have only one vocal coach and couldn't afford more individual training programs because the year Jimin was recruited, they had a lot financial troubles due to their previous artists and went almost bankrupt.
Also, there’s a thing called sasaeng fans it’s like overly obsessed fans they would do anything for attention. We do not claim those people. Those people obviously have something wrong with them. They other people that are coming at you and at BTS for doing anything wrong. We love BTS and whatever they decide to do with their lives, they can do it because what is their lives. Every K-pop fandom has them not just BTS like for example, to keep up idols that are not from BTS started dating, and the fans didn’t like that fan poured soy sauce mixed with hot sauce, in the idols I blind her
What.. I didn't think I would respond but bite your tongue! SUGA is one of the main producers..and produces for other artists. He's a freaking genius for real. He also has one of the most interesting personalities in the group. No, the group cannot and will not go on without SUGA. Yeah, you need to put some time into getting to know Yoongi.
Not one BTS member is more important then the others. But RM and Suga were thebmain Writers and Suga was a main producer for BTS later Jhope began writing. Jhope learned rap from RM and Suga. So no BTS couldnt be BTS without Suga nor woukd they ever be. Jimin was contemporary dancer but he also went to school for hip hop so he can dance to as JK but JHope is the Lead dancer and helps the group out. Jimin was cut almost 8 times but its the memebers that expressed their wanting him to keeping him and Suga was a strong vocal for him to be there and they talk about that on Sugas talk show Suchwita with Jimin as a guess. The main writers of BTS were the 3 rappers but now all write. When you watch more shows on BTS behind the scenes their shows you see Suga in a way different light. And wait til you see his solo work. Nobody in the group brings out the feels like Suga. Suga had rhe hardest life then all of them coming from being poor to his parents not allowing him to do music taking his lyric writings and burning them in front of him. He did it behimd their back. They do support him now however. Suga sufers from OCD and Depression and social anxiety. But he is so so much better no. His solo songs sing alot about his pain. I think you will enjoy suga when you get to know him. Every part of BTS has an important roll so they are all needed. I suggest you watch Taylors guide to bangtan 7. Its all about BTS. OH and finally BTS and Army are the closes then any fandom ever. Hater ganna hate but ARMY will back them up. ARMY and BTS are 1. And you will here it ALOT from BTS. ANOTHER series to watch is the rise of Bangtan 22 episodes with deleted scenes you learn alot of them and behind the scenes as well. Fantastic series. Ch.13 Is my fav episode. But loved them all thanks for reacting its my 1st time seeing you guys
I don't know what kind of hate you guys are getting. I tend to stay away from the comment section because there's always some ridiculousness going on, so I get the comments you make about ARMY, but please just be a bit more mindful of the things you say. We are ALL ARMY after all, and it can be a little hurtful when it sounds like you hate ARMY because then ... why am I here if I'm part of this fan group you hate? You know? I hear you when you say that it's not all ARMY, but you still bring up negativity in connection with ARMY pretty often. Must be tough, but please try to ignore the idiots and the assholes and have a good time with the rest of us.
Please react to some suga content, some tracks I suggest are daechwita and haegeum. For more heartfelt and in depth tracks I suggest so far away, armygdala, and the last! Suga is the main producer of bts and is behind many of the groups hits songs, I would love for you to react to more of the rapline! ❤
The way you talking about ARMYS is crazy. Acting like we are the bad guysss. Yall don't know sh%t about other fandoms what they did/do and say about BTS and ARMY. If you do than you will say ARMYS are not that bad.
Sorry for this comment , you have to start now looking for each members solo project to understand more , starting from RM , I think this will be the logical path to appreciate them
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial for me , it’s just one year since I started with BTS , I stumbled on a TH-cam cover of “it’s beginning to look like Christmas” by V and my journey began . on the way, step by step you learn more and more . have a nice Christmas
1:04:00 they do E Man RM isn't the only one who speaks they all do once again you're going off of your limited knowledge of them you haven't seen all the others speak when accepting awards even at that very award show the others spoke it wasn't just RM you only saw a small clip of it
I just think you guys jumped into this docuseries too soon. You should watch their previous content learn their discography and you will understand their job, each member and how they developed. Maybe read their book 1st to get to know how they became BTS. I have never seen anyone who has watched BTS work, point out a member and say he shouldn't be there... you don't know Yoongi like that. Why jump to conclusions? That's what I had an issue with in this reaction.
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As a new army, I see the timeline of what they are talking about can be confusing. So I will explain.
1. When J-Hope says Big Hit needed someone who can dance and everyone started to dance he is not talking about when the BTS lineup was already formed. He joined Big Hit way before any of vocal line joined company. At the time when all trainees at that time were rappers. And after some time of him joining, the vision for BTS started to change and rappers were asked to learn how to dance. And many of trainees left the company because of that. So he is not talking about the timeline where Jimin already joined Big Hit as a trainee.
2. If Suga was not in BTS it would be an absolute travesty. Not only Suga produced and wrote some of most gut-wrenchingly honest BTS songs. Suga is the one, who gives realness to the group because of his own struggles, his openness and understanding, that people relate to him and BTS as a whole so much. For me it was Suga's written song that made me from casual listener to an ARMY. And I'm not alone. His music is comforting, because you feel that he actually knows and feels what he is talking about in his music. Ofc his personality is like cats. So either you cat person or not.
Exactly! Idol was my entrance song, but its First Love - Suga solo that made me army fully!
For real. Interlude:Shadow by Suga was the one who pushed me into BTS rabbit hole.
for my case, "Tomorrow" makes me full time Army (i have watch them since end of year on 2013. But i just like their music but still not into them (i am not really into kpop artist, only casual listener). Until they release Tomorrow. That song hit me hard n makes me become their fan 😁) and my bias is Suga after I know he is the one who produce n write Tomorrow. I like Suga realness and most of us can related with his song.
that song right there ! it's everything, this and First love and the intro of the most beautiful moment in life@@chbenzy9359
@@miyuryuu7260 tomorrow is one of my favorite bts songs, the lyrics really strike a chord with me
All i can say is that based on BTS info, Armys tend to make THEIR theories about the guys into reality and they start to spread it all over and you end up not knowing what's true and what's not, I too end up being confused, that's why I taught myself that I don't have to know EVERYTHING about them to prove my love for them 💜 thanks for reacting❤
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true and they end up believing shippers and solo stans videos as facts. but many misunderstandings happen because bighit haven´t explained it well. but the more you dig yourself, you see how they came up with these misunderstandings. and you can form your own opinions of what happened. that´s how it was for me.
@@lealarsen2017this misunderstanding happened not because BH didn't explain well but because fans started to formulate their own narrative, their own theories, listen to narratives of other people, that don't like Bts.... to the point that they themselves believe it without even considering what BTS said. That's why when Tannies say to trust them.. just trust them. Not the narratives of other people because eventually little by little we will discover the meaning behind the things that they do.
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yoongi has said that he actually likes being in the back. he actually made a joke on his tv show "schwita" with guest star (jimin) where he said he prefers the vocal like (jimin, jungkook, taehyung, and jin) to be in front of him and be the visual of the team. yoongi is like 95% of the reason why bts has such fucking bangers. the man is literally referred to as a musical genius. while yes, ALL of the members are included in the writing/producing of their songs; yoongi is just built different. the way he navigates music and just knows what sounds good and what doesn't is so ... appealing. he could write a song in a week and be done whereas it takes most artists months to write a single song. it took me awhile to warm up to yoongi when i first became an army in 2015. i had always acknowledged his good looks bc i mean .. the man is fucking gorgeous. but on a more emotional level, i felt we didn't have much in common. that was until a few years later when yoongi revealed more about his own personal struggles (some of which i was experiencing at the same time). i looked him up more and absolutely fell in love with his mindset, his personality, and his passion. and now he's my bias wreck :) trust, yoongi is truly amazing and he's such a sweet and wise person.
You guys are misunderstanding some things though. Jhope was saying he was the reason they changed into a dancing group, but you have to understand he joined BTS before Jimin and Tae. Jimin already came with some background hip hop dance experience as explained in his introduction video. Originally BTS was going to be a rap group, no dancing. Jhope joined changing it to an idol group with dance, then Jimin joined…
the problem is you think everyone who comments is army. the people youre complaining about are solo stans people who hate bts and only follow 1 member. theyre the ones who are insufferable and complain about those silly things. my only complaint ever would be if someone isnt following the subs/lyrics.
youre also getting confused. they still do hip hop and no more dream era IS them. the hip hop group change theyre talking about is BEFORE their debut. they didnt change after 2013 the change occurred in 2011. idk how to explain it well but youre very confused. when we say bts didnt change we mean after their debut in 2013. the change bts are discussing in the documentary is before bts were bts.
this comment is so true, so many antifans or solo stans comment on bts vids and make us look bad lol
Exactly. a large majority of their comment section are solo’s and im tired of arguing back n forth with them
Exactly! 🎉
I TOTALLLLLY AGREE WITH THIS
They have created a space for solo Stans which is why they get A LOT of solo stans in their comments. You see a big difference in the comments section of reactors who actually seem to genuinely respect and like ALL the members.
Black Pink came on the scene several years after BTS but made their presence known in the American Music market either before or at the same time as BTS. HOWEVER they did not have the impact that BTS did in the US which was very ARMY driven…..so their fanbase targeted BTS and Blinks and Army have always been at war. It’s really sad that it can get so toxic. I, myself, don’t actually like kpop……I just like BTS….so I stay out of the fray with other fan bases….
Never underestimate the role of quiet reserved people like Suga. He has a very big role in most of BTS' songs.
Yoongi - Suga is such a huge part of bts lyricism and songs I cant even imagine how much he worked
Like saying you won’t miss Yoongi if he wasn’t there is crazy talk. His signature is all over BTS discography
Absolutely 💯 %.
Oh Jody, you’re in for a huge surprise about Suga, and that’s all I’ll say for now. In the beginning of my BTS journey, I also overlooked him because he was so quiet and always in the background, until I educated myself more. Boy are you in for a huge surprise!! 😅 Can’t wait till you get know more about Suga/Agust D!! ✌🏽
Im excited!
yeah i think so too@@jacque1in
I genuinely don't think they were comparing themselves with groups that big. Groups like big bang or blackpink were big from the start. On the other hand, bts didn't win a single first place until 2 years later of their debut. That was probably what made them feel insecure. As Rm said, they had a sense of inferiority. They basically started from the bottom. Btw great video, I appreciate a lot your honesty. Merry Christmas 💜
Pitting the groups in competition with each other like that was a mistake. It encourages spite. Glad they did away with it
@NotJustAnimeOfficial The music shows are still on every week in Korea. BTS still participated in them to perform and see ARMYs.
Back then and now kpop artists have to do this to gain fans in the general public. That's why BTS were so anxious in their debut years about not winning.
They needed these wins/success as their company were going into debt. They had no money yet.
Like Blackpink ? BTS were always bigger that Blackpink, they were winning their first daesang when Bp debuted
@@drennae I said bp because they were big since the beginning, not because they were bigger than bts
@@drennaethey mean those groups started with big companies backups and big fandoms while BTS started from nothing and built everything from scratch
You don’t know a lot about BTS and army relationship and it shows
There was some disrespectful comments with zero knowledge about their career based in a 30 min episode of a 10 years career that started even before that
I know you will realize later that All 7 members are important and necessary for their own reasons! They are one together 💜💜💜 And at various award shows they all have spoken but you have to remember they are only presenting clips to make their points… not showing the entire segment perhaps.
22:49 it is time for you guys to take a dive into Suga solo project. You will see that he is one of the main pillar of the group. You guys just haven’t seen enough of Suga or the rapline projects.
This is true, as said in the reaction.
react to 3j they are amanzing 3j fave line dance line @@NotJustAnimeOfficial
Jimin already had a background in dancing before he join BigHit as a trainee that's why Training & Development team insist to BangPd to have Jimin as part of the debut team which is BTS despite having a short training period.
Yes he did.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial on Hybe Label channel there is a mini series about the Development Team and how they trained. It rounds out the commentary in this. The dance teachers and vocal coaches, a psychologist. Really interesting. There are like 5 little vids about 5 - 10 mins each th-cam.com/video/71y2xhHOj98/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TfEQ5jb2Ex919-Tr
He was training onely 6 months , the others members same years !!!!! @@NotJustAnimeOfficial
Just to clear something up, from all the schools of dance, contemporary was the one Jimin trained the least amount of time in, it’s just that classical dance demands you put your whole mind and body to it and rewrite everything you knew about movement. Jimin did popping and street styles for far longer than he did contemporary, but the latter was so ingrained in him when he joined BTS that doing anything else was hard for him. It’s because Jimin has a mixed background of dance and martial arts that he is the dancer he is today.
A couple of things that may help you to understand BTS and real army.
1. Army are not toxic. The more you encounter and interact with solos and haters you feel that the army space is toxic. You should learn to differentiate between army vs haters. If you disrespect or shade any of the members army will protect and respond.
2. Jimin was a contemporary dancer and he had some hip hop training but I am not sure how much before he joined as a trainee. I don’t know whether Jimin wanted to be in a hip hop group or not since I have not heard him saying anything regarding it. I am happy that he is now enjoying being part of BTS and exploring his dancing more.
3. About K-Pop idol culture, there will be multiple trainees and the members are selected based on tests. So for example, for forming a group of 4, there will 10 trainees and 4 will be selected from that. So Jimin not being Bang PD’s first choice has nothing to do with Jimin being less talented.
4. RM, Suga and J-Hope are the backbone of the BTS for a long time. It was not because vocal line is not talented but because most of them didn’t had experience which they have gained now. I hope you will try to dive into the members and try to understand their role in the team.
5. All members of BTS are important and each of them had their roles in the team from the beginning that made BTS the BTS today. If you feel that if X member is not there also BTS will work, I would say it is because you have not discovered that member yet.
I want to emphasize that real army is not toxic until and unless you shade a member or is disrespectful towards a member. If you have not done either of these and you still find someone being toxic, then that person might be a solo/ hater.
I would say you will get a better understanding of how the idol system works and also a chronological growth of BTS and bighit if you watch The Rise of Bangtan series. I would suggest watching this documentary after that so you will get the context of many of the things they are speaking here.
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Cutting Suga = having less BTS songs, because Suga, along with RM, wrote most of the songs. Time to dive into Suga 😁
This whole reaction is pissing me off. I keep leaving and coming back to leave again. I dislike people who don’t like bts as a whole and only simp over 1 or 2 members
Suga is the producer of the group, he was the first one to recognize Jimin potential with his voice and he said he tells management any team Jimin is put on that is the team he wants to be on.
Leave. This time, don't come back. Why put yourself through unneeded stress like that? it's not that serious. Go to a channel that will tell you what you want to hear. There are PLENTY of those channels out there. @@DiamondPreston1234
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial you could also leave babe. Support an artist and NOT a group since you clearly don’t support bts as a whole and only Jimin. Bts is a group in case you forgot.
As an OG ARMY with a bias and starting early on there are some members to every group you flow with more than others and what he said isnt new alot of ppl who haven gotten to know SUGA have said things like that. Instead of getting bent out of shape for what he said on his channel eitjer move on and don't comment or give him content that would convince him otherwise..its that simple@DiamondPreston1234
I think you guys are misunderstanding BTS' relationship with ARMY, as well as who the majority of ARMY is. It's unfortunate. This documentary is straight up showing you how much we mean to each other yet you're somehow still concluding that BTS distance themselves from their fans when it's the complete opposite.
I never said they distance themselves from their fans. I said they cant be 100% honest with the fans because many of y'all are crazy AF and judgemental. RM literally said it! "would you still love us if we were brutally honest?" (paraphrasing)
the truth is.... BTS is giving y'all 50% themselves.... the other 50% is hidden.
and I UNDERTAND FULLY WHY THEY DO IT
@jacque1in well jungkook told us on his live streams that he doesn't have a girlfriend amd for is to believe him when he says that so we believe him.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialThe larger the group, the more different people appear; this simply cannot be avoided. The army is a big fandom. There are many people who pretend to be army men, but only harm the guys themselves when they treat them badly. They are not real fans, that's my personal opinion. So please don't compare everyone as one person.🙏🏻 I'm new to the army and joined a news group in my country just to avoid the lone and toxic fans who might twist the information to their liking. Therefore, it is very important to watch the translation of the guys’ interviews to know what is happening. And of course, guys should have their own personal lives! They do a lot for us. As a fan, I understand this and don’t interfere with them!😊I'm sorry that guys have to deal with inappropriate people. I want everything to be fine in their personal lives and to be happy and healthy) You know, BTS comes when they are needed. Their songs and they themselves heal the hearts of people. For me it would be that year, their support helped me get out of a terrible depression. This is how you become an army)😌💜💞
@@jacque1in oh I know I felt absolutely horrible he had to address it people will never be satisfied no matter what. But I felt for him tho for sure just wanted to hug him honestly 😪
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialhe did not say would “you” still love us, he asked would “people” still love him if he was completely honest bc at the time they were receiving lots of hate from other people (idol companies, media, underground rappers, etc). They only had each other and ARMY to rely on and that’s why they are so close. They have talked about how much they value being open to ARMY and even in the video you watched has said multiple times, “ARMY know what I’m talking about” or “ARMY would understand “ because ARMY actually listens to what they say instead of sensationalizing their words for drama like the media tends to.
You guys should definitely watch some suga solo work as soon as possible, I bet he is going to be the best and favorite member of the group for you (my personal opinion), but right now don't judge him by his cover 💜
Also he one of the main producers of bts, and worked his ass off to get bts where it is right now
Yes!
Im with you, I suggested to them a minute ago too💜
My bias is Jimin but Suga is the most complete artist in terms of creating his own music and the best producer of his generation.If you see the Suchwita, all the artists admire SUGA's work.
@@YenhaiMedina exactly, these ppl are just judging them way too fast, like cool down there is a long damn road down there which they have no idea especially when it comes to suga 💜
time to react to suga content, if you think bts could really survive without suga then its definitely time for you to pay attention to him more🤣
People need to realize BTS is the BTS they are today because of all 7 members, even if 1 member wasn't there things would've been different.
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Can’t wait for you to learn more about Suga. You’re in for a treat!! Without him, there would be no BTS today. He has written/produced such a huge amount of their discography, including the album that turned the corner for them and catapulted them into success.
If you really want to know about Jimin's album and his song FACE, he discusses it during the episode with Suswitcha. He said it was about what he through during the pandemic and how he missed ARMY. It was also about how the distance affected relationships (he didn't say what kind). He did drinka lott during this time. Was he an alcoholic? NO HE WASN'T they drinka alot as a culture anyway. He just drank more than normal. Once they started back concerts he got better. As far as SUGA, he is an introvert, and he is one member who went through a lot, including family issues and depression. As far as SUGA, not mattering is far from the truth. He and RM write most of the songs, and he produces most of the songs. Maybe his personality doesn't resignate with you, but he definitely belongs in the group he was the main one fighting for baby daddy to stay!! Lol You guys are hilarious. I would suggest you watch The Rise of Bangtan, instead of Hustle life. It gives you insight on the The beginning of BTS, the change, and where they are now. It also explains K-pop as a whole, how groups are formed and the competition, etc... it's a 22-episode series. You would love it!! Also as far as ARMY, honestly within any group you will find true and toxic fans. The more BTS grew so did the Fandom. Some to me are bandwaginers lol they don't understand ARMY and BTS relationship.. I've been an ARMY since 2015. When the boys went through the rumors ARMY fought for them that's true ARMY. Now there is a divide, so many different reason ppl have joined the Fandom. Just do you. I tell ppl believe 50% of what you see and zero of what you hear unless it comes from the boys.
Jody: they could SUGA OUT 👁👄👁
Meanwhile SUGA breaking Nicki Minaj's record with his D-Day 2023 Album in the US
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Jimin is widely known and acknowledged for his nonpareil talent and skill in dance. Having trained in different dance genres in his early years, he has developed a distinctive dance style that incorporates elements from each of the different dance genres, making it impossible to imitate his signature moves and thus placing him in a class of his own.
In fact, he is ranked among the 'Elite King Dance line,' which consists of the top 3 dancers in the entire K-pop industry.
His immense popularity overseas has also earned him the title of 'King of K-pop' in that most people and even media outlets outside of South Korea will always associate K-pop with Jimin. For example, some people may not know much about K-pop or even about BTS, but they will definitely know who Jimin is.
With his widespread popularity and his unbeatable dance skills, it is not surprising that Jimin made an appearance in the first book ever on K-pop dance theory in the US. Not only was Jimin referenced in the book's text, but an image from one of his iconic stages could also be made out on the book's cover!
bts wouldn’t be nowhere without suga lmao he’s contributed so much and the most along with rm, clearly the knowledge really is limited
As someone who has Suga as a bias, I respect his opinion but I also understand that maybe you need to react to more of his videos to better understand all the incredible work that Yoongi does both solo and in BTS. I understand that you have the perception that he doesn't appear and doesn't stand out much, but he himself has already commented that it's his preference, he much prefers to participate in the production of the songs. But I encourage you to react to his solo work or the Suchwita program which is a program created by him where he talks to various artists. Suga has an incredible talent and I hope you can see that.
Suga is definition of real introvert, thats why you barely saw him on the screen. But he's the main producer and song writer, so bts definitely wouldn't run without suga. You just don't know him yet and thats fine😂
Jimin just dropped a gift for Army on 22 Dec called CLOSER Than This on Hybe Labels. Its beautiful and already topping charts incl in US where it overthrew All I want for Christmas :)
JUST A HEADS UP…for future reactions to this series. I had the same issue, back when Jhope and Sugas documentaries came out, I couldn’t find them. Disney+ did not take this down, it’s still up. What you have to do is go into your profile settings and change your age rating settings to TVMA, because it has adult subjects and language in it. You’re able to lock that profile with a 4 digit code, so that it won’t be accessible to your kiddos, and make them a separate profile.
This way, you won’t have to go to a different platform to watch. Hope all is well with you guys. Great reaction and happy holidays! 💜💜
Thank you!
I was coming to say this… happened to me then as well.
Ahhh yeah you buggin Jody lol. Yoongi (Suga/Agust D) is the main producer of the group. He literally carried BTS during debut days. He got hit by a car doing deliveries just to help make money for himself and the group, and never told the company and still kept dancing for YEARS without them noticing. Suga produced other songs for other idols to the point where companies beg for him to produce for their company/idols. In May he became the first Korean artist with a #1 on the Top Rap Album Billboard Charts in the U.S. You have GOT to do a deep dive on Suga, he's literally rapline personified. Matterfact, react to and pay close attention to the lyrics of the rapline cyphers 1-4
Sorry to fulfill your prophesy about disagreeing commenters, but if I considered all 11 years of BTS, Suga became the both the glue that held BTS together and the creative force that made BTS one of the most open and honest groups going. Leave it to the introverted guy who at moments seems detached to actually have the racing, iconoclastic, philosophical mind that help make BTS cutting edge in a sea of vacuous Idols singing love songs. And frankly I think his love of the other members may be the deepest as they gave him a supportive family to traverse all the vagaries of his not always stable being. Get to know Suga more deeply you will find a very unique and special human being.
I’ve said this before…..I love your commitment and attempts to try to guess what’s going on……and you are wrong so often that it’s endearing. I’m glad you’re watching this docuseries…..but maybe patiently watch thoroughly before making bold statements until you see it through🤣. As much as I hope you get a better grasp of their journey…..I still love your attempts at understanding….it’s what IMHO make you unique reactors. And of course…..I’m Jimin biased so I LOVE your comments about “Baby Daddy”. But I would like to add that it’s not that Jimin wanted to find his “feminine” side as so many comment…..he just didn’t want to be represented as a hard ass little thug…..he is definitely more of a lover/ flirt and is a tender hearted soul. They pushed the “toxic masculinity” more than he felt comfortable with! He has what is called a “gender neutral” charm.
why is it so bothersome for people when people describe jimin as feminine? he clearly is. maybe you don’t like that, but to the average person, he is by far the most feminine in the group. there’s nothing wrong with a feminine man. why the hate over that word? do you not like femininity?
@@CatharticCreationTheres a big difference between being a feminine man and being a man who neutralizes his masculine and feminine sides and traits. search up what a feminine man is then you’ll understand-
Guys you all don't know but blackpink's, EXO's fandom is the one who's always spreading hate towards BTS members, they even makes jokes abt tae's grandma (she passed away) till this day you will see on tw and Armys don't purposely attack on those people but when they spread negative things abt members we have to do something to protect them and the remember the V durag rumours you did, that was also started by a blink acc on tw (blackpink fan)
Lol we are literally witnessing a smear campaign right now by them and other k-pop fandoms...
I can't wait to see them see the other Suga side😂 the AGUST D SIDE🔥🔥🔥❤he kept up doing most of the music and lyrics with RM along , in their pop and viral songs but the B-side of bts the rap line and his solo projects he is always liked by people who like hip hop and rap music and in these songs you can clearly see that dark and aggressive side Agust D!!!!🔥
"BTS Hardships" will show you what they mean and why we are protective of them
22:29 I hope you get there eventually because then you'll see that Min Yoongi/Suga/Agust D is quite literally the backbone of BTS. Not the only bone in the back obviously, but you cannot walk if his part of the vertebrae is missing.
Out of all the members, suga is the MAIN producer. The rapline consist of Suga, RM and Jhope, wrote most of BTS songs so without SUGA or any members, there is no BTS. PERIOD.
When Jhope said that they need dancer, Jimin was still not part of the group. They only had RM and Suga that time, so him teaching Jimin is not part of it.
Its your opinion on who is the best but just want to correct some matters. Jimin is the last member who joined BTS and was able to get MAIN DANCER and LEAD VOCAL position. He is more than a contemporary dancer.
I thought J-Hope was lead dancer??
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial He is.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialboth jimin and hobi is main dancer jk is lead dancer
@@m.johnson9358jhope is one of the main dancers, he is literally also considered the “dance leader”
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial He is one of the Main Dancers along with Jimin. He is the first and only dancer until Jimin came and became a Main Dancer too along with him.
Jungkook is the lead dancer ( 2nd dancer ) of the group.
In other words, they had to rearrange the group when Jimin came months before their debut. The other 6 members have been together for a year already when Jimin came and enter the picture.
As a fan, all of the members are equally talented and needed in the group, the group would not be BTS without anyone of them missing. 💜 Though Army is a fandom group, do remember that with this in mind some may have bias, bias wreckers but all should be shown respect and love. And each fan feels differently and do not always think the same. Suga is heavily involved in most of the producing, composing and writing of their music catalog. There is a reason when he entered a rap contest hosted by "Big Hit", he took 2nd place. Even though, they were not able to let him go, then signing him to become the 2nd artist in the group. You'll see that in their early days he sacrificed alot to get the group where they are. Many hours of no sleep, endless days of writing and giving up his younger years to pursue his love and passion in music. He may not be seen as a major role in the group for people who are just getting to know the group, maybe because he is quiet and I think that tends to draw some attention away from him. But if you deep dive, you'll find that he is equally loved by fans. Such a talented, raw person who deserves all the accolades for all his contributions he has made in the music industry. ♥️ hopefully you get a chance to look into his personality and solo projects. You'll be surprised how wrong you are and that sometimes thinking out loud should not be made until you learn more of what you tend to state... also I ksut wanted to say "Yoongi, marry me!!!"💜💜💜♥️
can you read what jimin is saying too you just keep obsessed overhis looks like i get it but hes no just a pretty face what he says is important too. this is really to pay close attention to the captions not just the visuals. what theyre saying is most important.
chill tf out please.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I am chill how is asking you to read more not being chill. aren't u supposed to make the reaction enjoyable for viewers so we come back to watch? ain't that the point of reactors? genuinely asking. sometimes you talk over the video when it's answering your question at the same time. don't you think suggesting is helpful to grow?
Foreal. It’s always baby daddy this and baby daddy that. I would rather hear what you think of what he is saying instead of just getting excited his face is shown. I usually never say anything but like dang, do you actually like bts or just jimins looks?
@@DiamondPreston1234like we all agree jimin is handsome but real fans care about what he saying. and the whole point of reaction is to react to the video while simultaneously making it enjoyable for viewers. if we ain't enjoying it what's the point cause some just won't return and we know reactors react for views there's nothing wrong with tha but atleast make it so you enjoy it AND viewers enjoy it. I don't think that's too much to ask for. I wasn't even rude about it so idk why they told me to chill. like we ca watch the content elsewhere we are here specifically to see you react to it we saw the content already. the point I clicked on this video was to see a reaction not a ignore the words and focus on visual. like genuinely confused.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I agree with this person. Jimin actually has a lot of valuable things to say and he is very wise. We get you're attracted to him, and I am too, but you need to stop only focusing on his visuals, it's disappointing. The 'baby daddy' comments are getting weird when that's the only thing you can come up with when you see Jimin. All of bts are beautiful men, but rm once said that he doesn't want people following them because they're cute, he wants people to follow them for their talent and message. You need to get it together and learn to take feedback from your audience or your channel won't survive. I don't even subscribe to you but I stumbled across this and read these comments. This is coming from someone who is a jimin bias btw.
Jimin is a real HipHop dancer. He was a street dancer and took part in some battles. Jimin is the most versatile and can be used in any genre because he is also a quick learner.
What are you talking about? Jimin was not a street dancer. He studied contemporary dance in high school, but he did learn hip hop. The battle you have seen was at the time he was learning hip hop dance.
Please be realistic, Jimin himself has said that he had to work twice as hard because his movements were very delicate and they were looking for a more explosive dance
He was not a street dancer 😭
He was never a street dancer, he just did some battles while learning hiphop style... JHope is the only one who was street dancer
Are you tripping?? Cause that would be J-Hope... Jimin is a contemporary dancer and was first in their art department. Jimin needs to work harder cause Hip-hop is Different from what he learned.
you guys NEED to watch suga solo content...this man is a pivotal part of this band...he is literally their main producer for multiple hit tracks.....they cannot do without him...and same goes for all bts members they are in it coz they cant do without even 1.
its not that armies think blackpink is talentless, its just that blackpink doesnt really showcase their talent, jisoo could take dancing classes and become even better than she is now, bc everyones pointed out how shes stiff while dancing, jennie can 100% sing and dance but for some reason she just doesnt give her performances that much attention, and rose is just an instagram model from what we’ve seen now, lisas the one carrying the group
❣Jimin, growing up, since quite young age, even pre mid school, was always into hip hop & r&b music. Aside from Rain, Taeyang, & BoA, Korean idols, known not just for amazing vocals, but their dance ability, Jimin was also heavily influenced, with other role models, such as Chris Brown, & Usher. So it goes to follow he’d also appreciate other equally well known artists who also were amazing dancers & performers aside from vocal ability. It also goes without saying that Jimin, was indeed heavily influenced by MJ. He even taught Jin to moon dance for Dynamite MV, also Jimin was the one that suggested other MJ moves also for BTS song “Dynamite”.
Jimin already at early age of 10, started studying hip hop at the renowned Just Dance Academy, in Busan, city where Jimin’s from, which teaches all the many different styles of hip hop. There is even a post made that shows a performance where young again 11 Jimin in 2007, not only performed already, on right front side of stage, but later on went in front and did a solo. JIMIN also competed, excelling in popping, & isolation moves, winning every competition. JIMIN also since a little boy, trained 8 yrs in various forms of martial arts: Taekwondo (blackbelt), Hapkido, Kendo, & Chinese martial arts. Side Note: When learning Taekwondo, as a little boy, I believe Jimin said that doing the splits was one of the first things required to be able to do. He said that he'd put his legs split, up against the wall for quite long, hrs at a time. This was aside from still attending middle school Jimin, where he was already into all kinds of sports, including being part of soccer team,, but also basketball, even joined after school billiards, also excelling in track & field throughout his schooling.
Then, while going to Busan Highschool of the Arts, he then also studied & performed contemporary. Media even called Jimin “The rising star of Busan” after seeing Jimin perform on stage during a huge festival. JIMIN also studied, some ballet as well as even traditional Korean dance. But Jimin’s main love was always hip hop. Though he did enjoy dancing contemporary, which Jimin indeed excels at, to this day all his dance movements, have his exquisite body placement, amazing elegant, poised, clean lines, as well as he also always stands, even without dancing, with out-turned feet, his foot positions always end up while dancing in classical out turned foot position, placement that classically trained dancers have. Jimin found he could express himself even more through contemporary dance. Very few dancers have the ability to dance as many styles of dance as well as have the ability to incorporate all of them, even his gravity defying, martial arts, moves in his dance.
There’s a reason Jimin was not only give the official title of Main Dancer & Lead Vocalist, but has been awarded the prestigious titles for 5 yrs In a row, Best Dancer in Kpop, as well as 5 yrs King of Kpop. Jimin is called Stage Commander for a reason, his stage presence is on another level. Jimin is also called “Rookies Bible” because all rookies look up to him, watching his erformances. over & over, trying to emulate, & learn from his unmatchable, flawless, precise moves. So many trainees & rookies choose his songs to try to copy when competing, though even without singing, but just focusing on dance, always still fail to even come close.
22:30 yes limited knowledge, suga is a main producer and co-writer :) his concert was incredible, he's a superstar. did you watch daechwita yet?
Yup! I support💜🫱🫲🫰
no, havent seen it
Suga did 28 concerts for D-Day tour. He is the only one who was able to manage it and Army is proud. Have a look at some of his documentary material from that to make up your mind. Oh dear.
Idk if someone said this already but I think there was a miscommunication about the whole 'hiphop group' thing 😅 they were supposed to be a rap group, but all that changed BEFORE debut. They were (and are) still an idol group that does hip-hop, that never changed
i can't wait for you to watch more Suga. love ya!
Omg these comments are a mess. I haven't watched the video yet because i haven't slept and I'm going to sleep before watching it, but just by briefly reading the comments:
1. No, BTS couldn't be BTS without Yoongi (Suga). He's NOT the main producer for the group (they have loyal in-house producers that have been with them since the start), BUT he IS the one who produces the most among the members. And he DOES produce a lot of music for himself and other artists besides BTS (like a lot). He IS one of the main writers, below only RM, and he DID produce some of BTS most beloved songs such as "Dead Leaves", "Ddaeng", "First Love" etc.
2. Jimin is a professional contemporary dancer, but he also did street dancing. He was the last person to be added to the group. J-Hope was the third one to enter. BTS formation order goes as follows: RM -> Suga -> j-hope -> Jin -> Jungkook -> V -> Jimin. Idk what y'all said about this topic but, to be clear:
Keep in mind: Main > Lead > *no specification, just the name of the position, ex: singer, rapper, dancer* > Sub
Leader =/= Lead
BTS GROUP POSITIONS + MAJOR JOBS
RM -
Position: Leader, *Main* rapper
Jobs: Mainly songwriter and composer, sometimes producer
Suga -
Position: Lead rapper
Jobs: Mainly songwriter and composer, often producer
j-hope -
Positions: *Main* dancer, rapper, sub vocalist
Jobs: Mainly songwriter and dance *leader*, composer
Jin -
Position: Vocalist, visual
Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer
Jungkook -
Positions: *Main* vocalist, *lead* dancer, *sub* rapper, center
Jobs: Vocal guides, sometimes songwriter, composer and producer
V -
Position: Vocalist, dancer, visual
Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer
Jimin -
Positions: *Main* dancer, *lead* vocalist
Jobs: Sometimes songwriter, composer and producer
The Leader position is not the same as the Lead position. The lead position, as well as main and sub etc have to do with skill set/abilities. The Leader position has to do with leadership over the group. Both Jimin and j-hope are main dancers, but j-hope is the dance leader because he learns the choregraphies fast and teaches the rest, he also helps directing their performances alongside the performance director, it has nothing to do with who is better than who. The lead dancer, which is below the main category, is Jungkook, because he is an extremely good dancer, just not technically as good as j-hope and jimin, and I mean "technically" literally, about technic.
3. BTS was ALWAYS a hip-hop idol group from debut. They were supposed to be a rap group BEFORE debut, but that idea was tossed away and they started adding singers prior to debut to debut as an idol group.
4. Bang Shihyuk does not *hate* Jimin like solos are talking about. BigHit was a small startup when BTS debuted, prior to that they were even smaller. The goal was to find people they thought were prepared to debut and have a chance at success, Jimin had a trainee period of months before debuting and that is not secure enough for a small company debuting it's second group with a lot at stake since the first one failed. Debuting him was a gamble because usually people spend years training before debut, that's why Bang Shihyuk wasn't sure they should debut him, and that's *it*. That's what the potential talk is all about.
Anyways, I'mma go to sleep and I'll watch when I wake up and make another complementary comment if necessary.
95% of BTS Song melodies are made by SUGA. Please react to SUGA discography.
I think you should consider reacting to The Rise of Bangtan series created by ARMY, if you want to learn more about BTS and K-pop in general. It would give you more context about the K-pop and the boys. It was created with a purpose to educate people who have no idea about idols
Jimin said he almost got fired multiple times before debuting. Bang pd DID NOT WANT HIM THERE. yet just the other day, RM said that BTS without jimin would have been a disaster.
That's CRAZY to think of. How could they NOT see a star?
@@NotJustAnimeOfficiallol. of course you believe a solo stan
@nanc4782 why are you so mad that a random youtuber likes jimin lol. if you don’t like people being jimin-biased, just find a youtuber that does. are you twelve? just exit the page like a normal person.
@@CatharticCreationoooh who’s an edgy boy? yes you are! oooh what a hot take your statements are so controversial! what an edgy boooy...
@@nanc4782 ew... your just embarrassing omg...
i was like that too about Suga in the beginning but suga likes to be unnoticed he has that type of personality.
but when you see suga only content you really understand how he is. and now he is my second favorite member. the way he views the world. he is very smart like RM but very deferent personalities.
so when they rap it´s so wild to see the two opinions of the same topic. Rm is honest but he likes to be poetic in his lyrics witch makes it hard to interpret what he actually mean. but with Suga it´s just blunt, honest and raw. but when it´s him just talking he is not the same open person like RM. but his lyrics is the gateway to his soul. i have always said it. if you want to know suga read his lyrics.
Guys, I’m genuinely just trying to give information to you here bc I know it gets confusing when you don’t have all the information and are trying to fill the blank spaces yourselves, when they say that “BTS was supposed to be a hiphop group with RM as the center” they mean the time around 2010-2011, RM joined bighit in 2010, the first member, there were other artists at the time who were also rappers and producers like Supreme Boi (who still works for bighit as a producer and was featured in the Cypher pt.3 from the rap line) and also amother underground rapper named IRON, this was ALL pre debut (years before any other member joined Bighit and years before the No More Dream MV), they intended to debut together and even released unofficial songs together as BPB for “bulletproof boys” (not bulletproof boySCOUTS, which is BTS), one of those songs was “Bulletproof pt.1” and you can still find reuploads of this song and others on TH-cam. BangPD would eventually change his mind when Jhope came into the picture in 2011 and decided to start turning this hiphop group (that was not meant to be in the K-pop industry AT ALL) into an hiphop centric IDOL group (that would be part of the K-pop industry, go to K-pop tv shows, k-con, etc), that meant Suga and RM (as well as the other rappers at the time) would NEED to learn to dance and be IDOLS. In late 2010/early 2011 Suga had auditioned through their rap competition and J-hope auditioned as a dancer, they were added to the lineup for *BPB*, THIS was the group that was intended to debut as a hiphop group with RM at the center (not idols, so no dancing), but it was the addition of j-Hope that started to change things and the vision of what this group would be. With this change, both IRON and Supreme Boi were not a good fit for this group anymore. And in the following 2 years all the members of the vocal line (JK, V, Jin and Jimin) would be scouted or audition to become part of the company and eventually becoming trainees to debut as BTS (bulletproof boy-scouts), some member changes occurred until their actual debut in 2013, for example BTS was supposed to be an 8 member group with the last member to join being Jimin (he was the 8th member) who had only six months as a trainee in Bighit, however one of the members decided to leave, making BTS a 7 member group turning Jimin into the 7th member.
THAT is why when BTS debuted, the side track for their FIRST ever EP as BTS (a HIPHOP CENTRIC *IDOL* group) was titled BULLETPROOF PT. 2, bc pt.1 had been unofficially released by BPB, the hiphop group that did not dance AT ALL and had RM as the center back in 2010. RM worked on both of these songs.
Part of the main reason why BTS debuted as a hiphop idol group was bc BangPD wanted the boys to be involved in the creation of their music, but the only members who had ANY experience with writing and producing music were RM and SUGA, two of the oldest (not in age, but in time in the company) members who been planning and preparing to debut for years at that point. BangPD demanded a level of authenticity in their songs that only hiphop could bring at the time, but ALL the members wanted to be and debut as BTS knowing full well that it was a hiphop centric IDOL group. They were not forced by the company to do anything.
I recommend you watch Boracity Magazine’s video on the “Chapter 1 of BTS discography” if you want to learn more abt BTS’s formation and beginnings in a more concise manner bc she follows a very precise timeline that goes back all the way to 2008 (5 years before BTS debut) when RM was still releasing songs as an independent artist named Runch Randa
I rlly recommend you guys start the rise of bangtan series to get know about BTS and how they become who they are now
Jimin was always the dancer he’s literally the best dancer in kpop. He was trained in hiphop + contemporary. Jhope (main dancer also) joined first before him he’s older that’s why he said the group needed a dancer at that point. Go watch jimin freestyle properly not where he is joking around before any conclusions. Do you even know how many Kpop idols have jimin as their role model? How many solo awards jimin has from dance? Lmao you cannot box him into one thing and then also undermine it he’s so diverse. Mind you jimin always stands out doing the actually bts choreo cause he adds his jimin trademarks so much so that professionals have said idols will never be able to copy that jimin style
Jhope is not just other main dancer the members also consider Jhope a dance teacher to them.
@@fatimakerrar of course same as jimin
@@purewaffling Not really you never see the members or the captions call Jimin a dance leader and that is not hate towards Jimin it’s just what it is and how they consider Jhope.
@@fatimakerrar well no even Jin said he learns the best from jimin. I honestly believe that cause he’s older the hyung roles of him being ‘leader’ fell that way tbh. And that’s no hate to jhope cause he’s good at what he does. And no offence in general dance leader/teacher is not an official position in Kpop so that takes nothing away from jimin since he’s not required to be one. It’s Main dancer + the other lead dancer. Jimin Jhope are thee main dancers and Jungkook is below as lead dancer.
@@fatimakerrarno hate to jhope but ofc he is the leader coz he is hyung and he came first. It wud be a disrespect if Jimin becomes the leader who came LAST member right? Even 6 months training he got MAIN DANCER. He also helped in choreo. And op was right, JIN learned from Jimin and everytime he wants to rest, he looks at Jimin and gets inspired by him. JIN said Jimin is a perfect idol. Jimin teaches RM, V and JIN the most. jhope is great on what he does but Jimin is allrounder. Only Jimin is the musician who got National awards which includes the fan dance and was titled DANCE KING by media and kpop industry thats why Rookies study Jimins dancing (Rookies Bible)
Re your conversation on RM doing the speeches at 1.00.00. Yes he does share the mic and they all speak. In fact RM encourages them to speak. You have to remember you are watching edited versions , clips don't always give the full picture. Hope that answers your question
We all love Jimin as well, but please refrain from over indulgence in him because that will generate even more unwanted hate towards him.
OT7... we are for all seven members, and they are equally precious.
Some people will fight among themselves regardless of what the truth is.
We are here for the boys and to support them in whatever they do.
What😂😂😂😂they can love Jimin as much as they want ,,,let's not be limited by haters guys come on
You are wrong Jody. E Man remembered Jimin trained in hip hop too outside his arts high school and did lots of street battles and won incl against teachers. You need to watch Park Jimin dance evolution by The Jimin Videos.
Jimin learnt contemporary, ballet, folk and jazz in arts high school with contemporary as a major although he was good in all according to his teacher.
he knows, he’s already reacted to lots of videos of jimin doing hip hop
I think his point was that J-Hope is on that level of dance with hip hop that he could freestyle on the spot, no problem. As talented as Jimin is, J-Hope has always been on another level with it
Exactly. Armys can help many times to share information but always believe mainly what the boys say because, as you said, there are fans who like to exaggerate or share false rumors
Jimin and Suga had a whole conversation about Chim Chim's drinking and this album. Army just love correcting people and acting like they know better than everyone, even when they are wrong. Also a lot of them don't understand how subtext and interpretation or music works 😂🖤💜
I've started to learn that about army as time went on.
it seems most army are teenagers with very little life experience
Also, many posts come off harsher and more childish than they should because they use google translate, majority of comments are not English speakers, but I agree, lots of kids who shouldn’t be unsupervised on the internet.
@@CatharticCreationI would say that they are the loudest. The adults are usually the silent watchers
@@jacque1inTH-cam army are terrible, idk about tiktok cuz i dont really see any young ones cuz im not on the cringey side of tiktok. but twitter had the best army community
1:12:56 when they won this award the kpop twitter was a mess.. they said it was just a paper award and unimportant. They criticized Jin for bringing the award at the airport and showing it. The fandoms united against them. A lot of hate everywhere from BOTH opposing sides. ARMY was alone in defending BTS.
It's obvious that you don't know who is Suga aka Agust D for you to say what you say about him.
No Suga = no BTS, since he and Rm wrote the majority of BTS songs. And for your information, Suga is one of SK's top producers.
I said that in the video.
They weren’t a rap group turned idol, they debuted as an idol hip hop group. I think you guys think they came out just hop hop and decided to change half way into dancing idols but they debuted that way. It was all finalized before debut. However their style evolved into les hard hip hop into more chill pop/hip hop.
You guys should really refrain from saying offensive comments regarding the members and who is important or not in the group. YOU are new to this and not the other way around. Try to understand the difference between constructive criticism vs baseless yapping of solos. You said you haven't really seen anything from Suga yet you say shit like he isn't important and is easily removable, like no you just are unaware of his contributions in the group.
LEARN BEFORE RUNNING THAT MOUTH AROUND.
You aren't the 1st to say shit like that and you also won't be the last but still, it's better you educate yourself.
Also with Jimin...he is more than a pretty face. PERIOD. GET THAT SHIT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
if you’ve actually watched any of jody’s content you’d know that he obviously loves jimin beyond his pretty face. he regularly praises and goes into detail about his dancing and character. get over yourself.
20:20 When they planned to build a hip hop rap & producers crew, they had an entirely different members - RM, Suga, Jhope, i11evn, Iron, Kidoh & Supreme Boi. Mid way when they changed the concept to idol group, 3 rappers remained, and the vocalists joined the group - in order Jin, JK, V, Jimin
Lol suga is a genius producer man! BTS needs Suga. Can’t wait for you to know him. He is a silent genius and very very raw as a songwriter. I highly recommend The Last, First Love, Haegum, Daechwita with explanation since Korean references are a bit hard for foreigners to grasp, Snooze, and Amygdala. Note that in a lot of these songs he is the only one in credit as producer and songwriter, and even has a hand in mv planning and everything.
keep in mind, it’s very presumptuous to draw concrete conclusions with so little info in your arsenal. there’s 11 years worth of densely packed history and you haven’t even scratched the surface. while we all do it and then amend as we learn more, the difference is most of us aren’t posting videos of our speculations, so you gotta expect people telling you you’re wrong (while also being wrong 😂). i hope you guys continue to watch bts content because you like them and like learning about them, and realize how nuanced their characters are and the situations they’ve been in.
watching you guys learn about bts and broaden your understanding of other cultures is what drew me to your reactions. but guys, objectifying and belittling high school girls (JK's classmates) and/or any aged females, army or not, as nothing more than "p--sies" is just f-ing gross af and a complete turnoff. you can do better. my fam watched you guys bc it was fun and intriguing to see you guys come to navigate, learn and grow in your own individualistic ways while endeavoring to understand BTS's story. besides that, BTS doesn't have to have a multiracial group to be legitimized any more than J5 or any other black group would *have* to add anyone to their group for their race or skin tone in order to be legitimized. that said, unfortunately, we couldn't stomach watching you beyond halfway thru this reaction - despite being low-key excited to see you guys do a reaction on the BTS Monuments series (one of *several* official BTS documentaries). this current series doesn't go thru every bit of BTS history because there's so much of it. maybe you'll give yourself time to to realize that as you react to more content, or not. we won't likely watch anymore of your vids...which, no doubt, ya'll won't sweat one bit. hopefully, you get the point.
on a few side notes, you may not think much about Suga (aka, Min Yoongi, aka Agust D) - tho he's among BTS's main award-winning songwriters. regardless, his new solo album, "D-Day" was just included in AllMusic's list of "Favorite Rap & Hip Hop Albums of 2023" (there were 3 million album entries vying for the list). If you're unfamiliar w/ AllMusic, it's an American based list.
as for BTS's dancers, JHope, as BTS's dance Leader, has a style that's has always been hip hop based; Jimin is obvi classically trained, but also trained in hip hop dance (Jimin/JHope/JK have several dance practices on vid, referring to them as 3J); JK wanted to b-boy when he was younger (he was sent to the US to train for BTS); Suga used to b-boy as well (according to him).
according to Suga (also during an interview with Jimin on Suga's own youtube show), Suga said that Jimin was supposed to be brought on to as a rapper for the group, but Suga said Jimin's voice was so nice that he should be a vocalist (Suga supported Jimin).
when suga kept asking Jimin to perform w/ him on Suga's 2023 tour for Suga's song that he and Jimin performed together before (Tony Montana) Jimin himself was reluctant because Jimin sees himself as not 'that hard' (if you see Suga/AgustD solo performances, you'll get the sense of what he means by "hard"). Jimin does have an appreciation for hip hop (his fav artists that he's openly mentioned are in the hip hop and R&B genres), he just didn't like the harder persona/vibes that were expected of him/BTS in their earlier years. Jimin expressed feeling like more of himself after they changed their look/direction.
Got Dayum that's a lot of words! You really told us! So many people are out of touch with sexuality these days... Just saying the word orgasm makes some of y'all throw up in the mouth. No wonder why suicides are up.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialthis such a corny nd lame reply to someone telling u not to make such sexualized comments about women in general. “So out of touch with sexuality” yet u r the one turning a completely normal interaction sexual. All because it’s a primarily female audience. If u can’t see women beyond their ascribed gender what does that make u? U r grown adults acts like it. ppl r trying to correct u yet u r acting dense.
The best way to get to know the members is their solo projects. I think starting that way gives newer people an appreciation for each one. This is vital for not only Suga/Agust D but also j-hope. For example, j-hope's Jack in the Box album (MV's "Arson" and "More") and solo performances show a darker, edgier side to him than his usual sunny persona.
I look forward to watching some SUGA. I said that in the video, but all they heard was he wasn't needed. Then came for me. lol
You have many solo stans as your subscriber, they're not Armys they just like one member and spread hate abt other indirectly or directly, but it's not just you all the reaction channel have these solos
Did he just say "like the Sleepless in Seattle kiss?" I almost spit out my drink out. I love the reactions boys..ya'll are hilarious. ❤❤❤😊
Yeah i was laughing so hard i cant with jodi and seeing emans reaction lol 😂😂😂
Wow. Don’t need Suga??
Hmmm….new people who don’t know much yet but enjoy the views & engagement.
Yes, because I make so much money from reacting to BTS! I MUST be doing it for the views and money! How will I spend the $147 Ive made since October??? I think I'll buy me a one way bus ticket to Vegas!
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial I said nothing about monetary gain. Maybe once you learn more about the group, then you’ll realize why each member is important in the group. Stay healthy. Vegas is a fun place, hope you get to visit one day.
DO Not take Jimin's major in contemporary dance for granted thinking he is only good in "ballet" Jimin is the most versatile dancer of the group, he can do house, hip hop, pop, latin, traditional, modern dance smoothly, he is the MAIN DANCER of the group, when BTS debuted their portfolio stated that Jhope is the sub dancer and Jimin is the main dancer that many armys are unaware of, later on it was established that they both were main dancers but Do NOT underestimate Jimin's dance skills in the light of jhope, Jhope is a hiphop dancer while Jimin is good at more than one genre, He has bagged multiple national and yearly awards for Dance
If you can figure out your Disney Plus situation there are actually 2 documentaries by J-Hope and Suga that are available on there to watch. J-Hope In the Box and Suga: Road To D-Day. I think watching Suga's doc will help you understand him more.
Watching Suga and Jhope documentaries will expand their knowledge too and appreciate not only 1 member but how others really working so much their butt to create a beatiful and unique music especially my boy who is really very workaholic , i know they all are 🫰💜 but im sorry Suga is such so beyond a very hard worker.
Suga's alter ego (in music) is AgustD which is basically Suga spelled backwards Agus +T(Town)+ D (Daegyu) his birthplace. AgustD is a much more darker & aggressive form of SUGA & has a scar under one eye. Please react to the trilogy
1 Daechwita
2 Haegeum
3 Amygdala
Thanks for the reaction ,guys ❤️🩹🫂
Suga was the most streamed Korean rapper in 2020...2021
You guys should definitely check out the raplines solo work and the true history and background of BTS before passing judgement or making statements based on things you don’t know about .. BTS was three members in the beginning as an all hiphop group RM ,Jhope , and Suga .. then along the way they transitioned into a idol group and the other 4 vocalists started joining in and most didn’t have backgrounds on much dance other than jimin and jhope taught them all how too dance different styles and how too be a performer
I understand your opinion about yoongi but he is the main reason of why most of the song are sooo good because he is like the producer for the groupe also because in an other documentary suga said " they told me that u was here for producing and not dacing". I hope you can learn more of yoongi and the members with run bts the show 😊❤.
I watch your video from France and my english is not that goog sorry but i like your reaction you are honest and true with it so thank you ❤
He's not the producer, their producer is pdogg, slow rabbit etc. Yoongi does produce for them, but not nearly as much as their inhouse producers. In fact, he produces more for himself and other artists.
@@marirezende8478 Bts refers to suga as one of their producer though? I remember seeing it in one of there interviews. th-cam.com/video/qsobCAGiuRU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=B4PSgtXqWhbUXTMG
To be fair, there are fans from other groups who come in to comments and act like a-holes to make army look bad . They even talk bad about their own groups to make us look bad. We’ve seen communications where they have planned these things. It’s crazy.
Genuinely hear me out, this is just a suggestion, but I think you both need someone who is army and has been for years to help you with reactions, bc I understand that you both know next to nothing abt K-pop, the K-pop industry and its history and you have a tendency to compare and look for similarities between BTS’s label and American labels without understanding they had different audiences, practices, cultures, goals, etc.
I think much of the disconnect armys are feeling with you guys is your lack of knowledge on BTSxARMY story, the K-pop industry itself and how things work in Korean music, and how different BTS itself has always been from K-pop and how different armys are to K-pop fandoms.
I think specially when it comes to the honest message they have always put into their music, you’re missing out on a lot. I like the format you came up with to react to dance practices and try to guess the visuals for the MV, but I think it has lead to you not paying as much attention to lyrics. It is truly ironic and frustrating for armys who have been here for YEARS to hear you say “this isn’t really them” when the entire point of the song “no more Dream” was to tell teenagers at the time to question what their own dreams were, for them to do what THEY want to do regardless of what their parents, teachers or society was telling them their dreams or path to achieve those dreams should be. In the first EP there’s a skit, which is basically a track (not a song) that was made out of recordings from their conversations, they do this in the form of a skit, they are acting as if they’re all in school together and skipping class to talk, RM mentions a Korean hiphop group named Epic High (they were not idols or part of the K-pop industry like BTS was since their debut) this was a group that gave major inspiration to RM and Suga to become rappers. RM mentions that their song “Fly” was what inspired him to make a song, Suga says he went through the exact same experience, then they go around each member to talk abt what they were doing during the time “Fly” by Epic High was released, what did they dream of (before BTS). I think it would help your understanding of BTS more to have someone with you who has been here for a while to help answer your questions and explain the timelines a bit better bc sometimes you guys get confused, which is understandable, there’s a lot of information to digest
I wanted to say thank you again for your reaction to BTS’s music and various content. It is always interesting to watch a lively and unconventional discussion. And it's good that you have a personal opinion. I would like to say that you really need to look, study other people in the group and see the whole picture. There are a lot of interviews and bangtan bombs on their channel. There is a book about BTS, it appeared in stores this year. You can find it freely available on the Internet. The more you learn about them, the more interesting it becomes. The guys really have become a family over the years.
All 7 members are needed in the group and to know that why? You should checkout their content their positions,ik many Armys are very angry and it's understandable bcs yoongi is very very important, he's litrally one of the main pillar of BTS so i hope instead of thinking Armys are bad people you should learn more abt other members too, because i love watching your unfiltered, not sugarcoated real reactions 💜
Check your settings to see if it's set to display MA content. I know when people couldn't find Suga and J-Hope's documentaries it was because they had the default settings to not show MA content. I live in the US and mine shows up just fine but I also changed my settings a long time ago.
righttt this too
Jeez just focus a little more, they said in the middle of the first episode that people were comparing them a lot to big agencies, and RM said they felt inferior because of that.... Thats why JHope said later they were doing comparisons with other groups because medias and opinions exhausted them with that.
It seems you're too biased watching these videos with opinions already established in your heads... Thats not how it works.... You have to be patient and learn more
There's so many comments, and so many saying the same things. I don't know how you go through it all, but thank you for interacting with some. 🤭
It's Lief from Patreon, who send you the link.🌳 I was waiting with my thoughts because I thought there'd be a uncut on Patreon. But already found out there won't!! Glad you had my link as backup, I'll do the same for the next episodes if you need.
So good that you're watching this docu, I'm excited for the next episodes and what'll be showed. It's best to listen to BTS directly. It's actually so cool that you're taking the time to dive into this, so thank you.
I think you're entering a phase where you're realizing the company also has company interests. Which is true, because it's still a company that has to carry staffs and projects and all kinds of capital. BTS' company in particular solely existed for and because of BTS for a very long time. From 2013 until 2019, they were the ONLY artist and income stream in the company. Which is out of the ordinary, because that's so risky. Even now the company's revenue is for 70% generated by BTS. (Interesting: the BTS boys now hold official shares and voting rights in the company, as only artists to do so)
So that pressure of having to carry the entire company was definitely on the BTS boys shoulders. On the other hand, if you listen to their words... they never once indicate it's the company controlling them. Jimin even says the company offered them a 6 months break, but that BTS boys turned it down because it did not seem right since their carreer was finally going good. People had expectations for them, so much of pressure came mostly from outside (country, media, industry and public).
The pressure and expectations in Korea, and maybe Asian society as an whole, are just much higher. Any misstep or embarrasment is just unacceptable. Especially for someone that represents Asians as an whole in the global music industry. I find it hard to place myself in BTS' feet, because I'd gladly have accepted that 6 months break in a heartbeat. But working hard, to the point of becoming mentally or physically ill, is almost a given to most Koreans. If you're not putting in 16 hours a day, you'll be scolded by any parent or any auntie or even by yourself.
I'm not saying this to glorify that work ethic. Because I'm a priviliged European that does not live to work, but rather works to live. I just don't care about making carreer, I just want to make money to get by and live my life.
I want to quote an interview from RM with an important European art magazine, about the work ethic in Kpop (I'd link it, but youtube blocks any links in comments).
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This worship of youth, of perfection, of overstraining in Kpop... Are these Korean cultural traits?
People in the West just don't get it. Korea is a country that has been invaded, devastated, torn in two. Just seventy years ago there was nothing. We were getting help from the IMF and UN. But now, the whole world is looking at Korea. How is that possible, how did that happen? Because people are working fxcking hard to improve themselves. You are in France or the UK, countries that have been colonizing others for centuries, and you come with "Oh God, you put so much pressure on yourselves, life in Korea is so stressful!" Well, yes. That's how you get things done.
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It's probably one of my favourite answers RM has given. It's clearly a difficult question that tries to put him and his culture down. Rather he comes out with "LISTEN COLONIZER". He's amazing for having the guts to say that to a white man's face. I love it.
the fact that bang pd couldnt see jimin’s greatness goes to show that bts was pure luck for him. he obviously has terrible taste. thank god there were people in the company who weren’t blind or else bts wouldn’t have made it.
Dudes you're saying a lot of ish without taking the time to learn more.... Bang PD didn't dislike Jimin at all.. Jimin was the last from BTS to join the company, so first he didn't have enough time to adapt to the group and to improve his skills, his training period was less than 6 months while the other members lived and trained together between 1 to 3 years, and when Jimin joined the company didn't have enough funds to provide him the same training program so he learned a lot with JungKook and the rest of the members while living with them... Thats why Bang PD said he was incomplete and hesitated to make him debut.
army in denial yet again. i’m not a solo stan but even i can tell bang had his preferences. if that was the reason, why didnt anyone go into detail about it? where are you pulling this info from?
Yeah, I agree.@@CatharticCreation
Idk know but I feel pd bang is biased i don’t wanna blv it but i feel like it hopefully not anymore
@@CatharticCreationI guess its Jk they are kind of obsessed with Jk 😂 he is my bias too bit i love all seven together not individual and yeah Jimin is the prettiest one among them
@@CatharticCreation I'm not in denial, I just pay attention to what they say without using a sentence out of context... Jimin said himself in their interview on "You Quiz on the Block", he wasn't recruited at first for BTS because he joined BigHit only 6 months before BTS's debut, but since he feared to not debut he asked to join JungKook and V's vocal lessons to watch and practice what he learned late at night.. At the time, his training was focusing on his dancing skills because he needed to adapt his dancing style.. And since he worked really hard, the members and some staff supported him to debut with BTS instead of waiting the next group... Thats why his training period was incomplete.. And yes BigHit did have only one vocal coach and couldn't afford more individual training programs because the year Jimin was recruited, they had a lot financial troubles due to their previous artists and went almost bankrupt.
Also, there’s a thing called sasaeng fans it’s like overly obsessed fans they would do anything for attention. We do not claim those people. Those people obviously have something wrong with them. They other people that are coming at you and at BTS for doing anything wrong. We love BTS and whatever they decide to do with their lives, they can do it because what is their lives. Every K-pop fandom has them not just BTS like for example, to keep up idols that are not from BTS started dating, and the fans didn’t like that fan poured soy sauce mixed with hot sauce, in the idols I blind her
What.. I didn't think I would respond but bite your tongue! SUGA is one of the main producers..and produces for other artists. He's a freaking genius for real. He also has one of the most interesting personalities in the group. No, the group cannot and will not go on without SUGA. Yeah, you need to put some time into getting to know Yoongi.
This!!!!!!
Not one BTS member is more important then the others. But RM and Suga were thebmain Writers and Suga was a main producer for BTS later Jhope began writing. Jhope learned rap from RM and Suga. So no BTS couldnt be BTS without Suga nor woukd they ever be. Jimin was contemporary dancer but he also went to school for hip hop so he can dance to as JK but JHope is the Lead dancer and helps the group out. Jimin was cut almost 8 times but its the memebers that expressed their wanting him to keeping him and Suga was a strong vocal for him to be there and they talk about that on Sugas talk show Suchwita with Jimin as a guess. The main writers of BTS were the 3 rappers but now all write. When you watch more shows on BTS behind the scenes their shows you see Suga in a way different light. And wait til you see his solo work. Nobody in the group brings out the feels like Suga. Suga had rhe hardest life then all of them coming from being poor to his parents not allowing him to do music taking his lyric writings and burning them in front of him. He did it behimd their back. They do support him now however. Suga sufers from OCD and Depression and social anxiety. But he is so so much better no. His solo songs sing alot about his pain. I think you will enjoy suga when you get to know him. Every part of BTS has an important roll so they are all needed. I suggest you watch Taylors guide to bangtan 7. Its all about BTS. OH and finally BTS and Army are the closes then any fandom ever. Hater ganna hate but ARMY will back them up. ARMY and BTS are 1. And you will here it ALOT from BTS. ANOTHER series to watch is the rise of Bangtan 22 episodes with deleted scenes you learn alot of them and behind the scenes as well. Fantastic series. Ch.13 Is my fav episode. But loved them all thanks for reacting its my 1st time seeing you guys
I don't know what kind of hate you guys are getting. I tend to stay away from the comment section because there's always some ridiculousness going on, so I get the comments you make about ARMY, but please just be a bit more mindful of the things you say. We are ALL ARMY after all, and it can be a little hurtful when it sounds like you hate ARMY because then ... why am I here if I'm part of this fan group you hate? You know? I hear you when you say that it's not all ARMY, but you still bring up negativity in connection with ARMY pretty often. Must be tough, but please try to ignore the idiots and the assholes and have a good time with the rest of us.
Please react to some suga content, some tracks I suggest are daechwita and haegeum. For more heartfelt and in depth tracks I suggest so far away, armygdala, and the last! Suga is the main producer of bts and is behind many of the groups hits songs, I would love for you to react to more of the rapline! ❤
For me / BTS without any one of the members will not be the same or where they are now , every member has a special part in the group
The way you talking about ARMYS is crazy. Acting like we are the bad guysss. Yall don't know sh%t about other fandoms what they did/do and say about BTS and ARMY. If you do than you will say ARMYS are not that bad.
I know they attacked me for reacting to BLACKPINK.
@@NotJustAnimeOfficialAnd blackpink fans have attacked reactors for watching bts.
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51:35 okay now why would you even said that😅
he’s young at that time and he sincerely thankful to the army
Sorry for this comment , you have to start now looking for each members solo project to understand more , starting from RM , I think this will be the logical path to appreciate them
No need to apologize. You were very direct and respectful. Others, not so much
@@NotJustAnimeOfficial for me , it’s just one year since I started with BTS , I stumbled on a TH-cam cover of “it’s beginning to look like Christmas” by V and my journey began . on the way, step by step you learn more and more . have a nice Christmas
Happy Holidays!@@Dali72
1:04:00 they do E Man RM isn't the only one who speaks they all do once again you're going off of your limited knowledge of them you haven't seen all the others speak when accepting awards even at that very award show the others spoke it wasn't just RM you only saw a small clip of it
I just think you guys jumped into this docuseries too soon.
You should watch their previous content learn their discography and you will understand their job, each member and how they developed. Maybe read their book 1st to get to know how they became BTS.
I have never seen anyone who has watched BTS work, point out a member and say he shouldn't be there... you don't know Yoongi like that.
Why jump to conclusions? That's what I had an issue with in this reaction.