Just had a snow storm last night, drove through 2 feet of snow to get out of my driveway with my 2015 XV. Neighbours were watching, I bet they were hoping that I get stuck. Sure it's not a fast car, but I needed a regular car that's AWD and jacked up to get me through our long snowy winters up North.
Watching this video only thinking about AWD and snow coming in January. Last year had a terrible experience with my Corolla and desperately looking for an upgrade before December.
@@aGuyWhoPatsDogs that was my concern is the snow. I moved out to no man's land and the snow can be a pain. Im currently trying to decide if I want to go the Jeep Compass route or the Crosstrek.
@@Saxie81 I've never driven a Jeep Compass, but I will say I blow past them, Wranglers, 4runners, and almost everything on my way to work in snow storms. I won't sit here and tell you a Crosstrek will beat any of those in a serious offroad trail, but I 100% believe it's better on snow covered roads and hard packed dirt roads.
We bought the 19 Crosstrek for my wife last year, and it’s fantastic! You’re spot on with your review and I agree with you about the excessive number of buttons, not my thing either. After driving it for close to a year the only fault I found was the stock all-season tires aren’t enough for my hilly, snowy area. They’re perfect with most conditions but an AT upgrade will happen before Fall this year. I’m 6’4 and have no problems with seating or leg room... however, my wife wants the Forester now. So I’ll gladly keep the Crosstrek and she’ll get the Forester. We do no off-road travel but this vehicle can go anywhere during any weather.
If you don't have a family or large dog I would go with a Crosstrek. It's so much different from the rest of Subarus line up. It looks sporty and has the more interesting colors. I hope Subie figures out they can attractive younger buyers and they're designs don't have to be so safe all the time. I do wish the Crosstrek has 170-180 HP. That would really be better. I like the new Forester it's an evolution of the design which again is just conservative.
Totally agree... with the philosophy of having big windows (because is "safer") the XV doesn't really have massive windows, still pretty good in terms of light interior and visibility, but it looks so good!
Got a brand new 2019 Crosstrek Limited this week. Love it so far. Can be a bit slow on the high end but can kick in lower gears. Great ride, great options. Sound system is also tops.
I switched from the 2017Forester to 2019 Crosstrek to give me more room in a small garage. I love how both drive but what I HATE about the Crosstrek is that they do not have a power lift gate for the trunk, even on their most expensive model. And even though I saw hundreds of complaints from short people that they could not reach the top of the trunk to close it manually, Subaru still failed to add it as an option on their Crosstrek 2020 model. I use a rope on the trunk, but that always gets caught in the lock and, I am ready to find a new car with a lift gate even though I'll be taking a serious loss on my Crosstrek. If you're short - do not buy a Crosstrek unless you want to be angry every time you need to open and close the trunk.
Bought my 2013 Crystal Black Silica XV Crosstrek in Los Angeles in Jan 2014 prior to moving to the MidWest. Best automotive choice I’ve made, especially during the Winter... and still goin’ strong, yo!
Excellent comparison video Joe! I really like the Crosstrek and considered buying one but ended up getting a 2019 Outback with the 3.6 engine and I think it's a fantastic vehicle. Whenever you have a Subaru video my ears perk up!
@@RaitisRides Can you review the new 2020 Ford Transit Connect with its multiple engine options? Its getting the same 2.0L twin turbo diesel engine that the international Ranger Raptor has been using for a while.
I'M GONNA GET THE 2019 RAV4 ADVENTURE AFTER YOU DO THE VIDEO FOR ME MY MAN! DID SOME RESEARCH AND SPOKE TO OTHERS WHO HAD SUBARU'S........THEY JUST AREN'T REALIBLE LIKE THE TOYOTA'S!
Thanks for mentioning the seat length. We have the opposite problem, being short people. And most reviewers never consider how things are for short people, only tall people. In some brands the seat bottom is too long and uncomfortable if you have shorter legs. Anyway, that was helpful that you talked about it because now I know the seat will be ok for us. Ideally, in the future, maybe cars could have adjustable seat bottoms.
2:51 I think if you realize this bumper cover is also used on the Sport trim. On the Sport trim, the fog lights are vertical and take up more space in that direction. So I think the answer is this is a shared area for all trim levels and they needed to design that into it. I'd buy the Forester over the Trek for sure.
Hello Joe, I'm enjoying your thoughtful inside on the Subaru brand for about 3 weeks now, I also subscribed to your channel, based on what I like And bang for my buck, I'm going with the 2020 Forester Sport with the Harman Kardon audio system, beautiful utilitarian dependable SUV, many thanks.
Hi Riccardo! Thank you so much for reaching out! I really appreciate you letting me share my passion for cars with you! Congrats on your decision to go with the Forester! You will love it!
I have the 2018 Limited edition crosstrek and it does come with a dual climate control. I’m 5’2” and the seats are great. The Canadian ones come with heated steering wheel.
Do you do comparisons across brands? Would love to see a comparison of Forester versus Hyundai Santa Fe. (Might seem a bit random, but those are two of the best SUVs for short drivers, so others may appreciate the same comparison.) Thanks!
As these vehicles are being used more often for sleeping in, would be great to show that the seats to now lie down nice and flat like other vehicles - and no raiser to adjust that floor either.
Didn’t mention the optional six speed manual on the Crosstrek! Sounds like Subaru is putting the 2.5 in the Crosstrek for 2021 which would be nice too!
Love both. We have a 2018 Impreza. If you don't need the ground clearance & bigger tires, you can save $2K with the Impreza versus Crosstrek. Just saying.
Great video! I own a 2019 crosstrek premium and love it, but dislike that they took out the temperature gauge on the odometer. :/ why did your wife sell her 2015 crosstrek?
just looking at the front bumper cover on the Crosstrek I'm 99% positive the reason the ABS plastic doesn't go from the bottom of the bumper all the way to the fender flare has to do with brake cooling. It leaves a channel for the air to get right next to the wheel to be sucked through the brakes.
the little extra wide rear seats will allow the 3 bumber seats fit just right. Safety for our grandkids comes first. Nice video, I do wish they would bring back some yellow on the rear lights. Telling my age. It just looks be
My wife trades cars like most people change socks...if they increase HP in crosstrek she will be fist in line to trade. She traded a Honda with a V6 and 110k miles. But she was working ...now retired only local driving...no Hiway...but said she didn't miss the power in the Crosstrek...ill keep you informed on her and daughters review in the future....Subaru stock is climbing ...and the forester and crosstrek are two reasons why
Both were based on the impreza Xv was a replacement for impreza outback sport Forester was originally based on impreza (98-06) it was also a wagon then, not an SUV
Heck I still drive a 99 forester for a work beater. Made my daughters buy it for their first car. It does look more wagon like than they wanted to admit but go buy parts. It will be listed SuV
@@MidwestDankAlumni not false. I've seen it when I buy parts and at the parts store. Listed as an suv. We can argue it all ya want but I know what I see
As a younger guy with no kids. I really have loved my 19 Limited Crosstrek. Its very comfortable, has a great sound system, great Apple car play, remote start from phone, and amazing in Snow. I wish it had a bit more power but id say the same if I had a forester. It has a more sporty fun look than the forester in my opinion and I really hate the rear lights on the forester. Cant wait to see the 2021 WRX though
Excellent comparison, Joe! I originally wanted the Forester Premium, but at the time, no local dealer had that particular trim level in stock, so I went with the 2019 Forester 2.5i (Base) model. It has everything I needed in the Premium trim, except for the drivers seat Lumbar Support control. Seems like Subaru offers a bit more in their "base" trims than some other SUV brands.
Thanks for this comparison! I definitely like the Crosstrek better! It has better fuel economy than the Forester and I prefer to manually close the back hatch, rather than the push-button. I just wish the Crosstrek had more USB ports!
2018 Forester has the gas strut on engine hood, gone in 2019. Oh, your not supposed to Rev the engines until the warm up complete, there is a blue temp light that goes out when engine to operating tempature. I drove the Crosstrek and Forester, I purchased the Forester because I'm 6' tall and have more interior space in Forester vs Crosstrek. Big gripe for Crosstrek was the emergency brake hand grip dug into the side of leg.
Joe the Crosstrek, Forester and Outback all have 8.7 inches of ground clearance. I have an '18 Crosstrek and love it. If you need more room for people and gear then Forester other wise the Crosstrek is lighter and sporty so more fun to drive.
Had a 2019 Crosstrek loved and it was the base model but had alot features standard. Use it as a daily to work 220 miles a day. Construction life lol. It gave me impressive mileage. I got 35 to 36 mpg on the freeway. Full tank got me 2 days back and forth plus a quarter left. Eye sight helps alot especially when you're driving long and your falling asleep car corrects you and warns you. The adapted cruise control is awesome and save you form accident. But sadly got rear ended hard in a stop sign and it did its job save my life. Now wounded if I should get the Forester and would I get the same mpg.
Traded in a 2016 Crosstrek for a 2019 Crosstrek. Originally thought about a Forester but my 5 foot 90 lb wife couldn't get comfortable when test driving it, When I took the 2019 Crosstrek in for service , they gave me a Forester as a loaner.Handling was totally different. I felt I was all over the road in the Forester compared to my Crosstrek.
We test drove a 2019 RAV4 last week and the first thing my 5'3" 110lb wife said was "these seats are too short". The RAV4 interior (especially doors) felt like cheap plastic. Subaru's were nicer and the "under powered" comment is overblown after driving the Crosstrek and Outback. I like the ride of the Outback and Crosstrek better than the RAV4 but just saw a dark grey Forester Sport (with orange highlights) and it was very stylish - sort of Range-Roverish. We will try one this weekend. FYI - The Outback seems best for me (towing capacity, ride, height and length for our long kayak, storage with seats up, price after current incentives) but is a wagon and the redesigned 2020 with global platform is only 6 months away.
I’m actually very happy with the CVT on my Crosstrek. I would rather them get rid of the paddle shifters and replace it with back vents, back and front USBs and a 110v plug-in in the trunk area.
Thanks for the video. Am cross shopping either the 2019 CX5, forester or xv. But in the Phil., all 3 vehicles have 2.0 liter engines. I like the XV and CX5 for looks, the forester for space, seats, convenience, safety features, and the CX5 for handling and the 6-speed auto trans., premium-ness. I really value safety, and when I read about the eyesight system was impressed by the Subie. Having AWD is not essential but may come in handy. Of the xv or forester, do they need premium gas? It may come down to dealer service. Mazda is throwing in first 60,000 kms service and parts, liquids free during PMS, among other things. Have owned a Crv, rav4, Rogue before but never a Subie. Am hoping to hear from Subie owners on their ownership experience.
Regular gas. Loving my 18 Crosstrek 18000 miles so far. I owned a Honda Civic si before this, won driver of the year in my class two years in a row with it racing autocross with my club. I have raced autocross for almost 30 years, and switching to this car has not disappointed me, certainly not wrx power, but it has all the power I need. When you get hard enough on the gas, the cvt gives you just the right ratio, to get the revs where you want them. Half throttle brings you 3500 rpm shifts, 3/4 gets you 4500 rpm, 95% to full throttle gets you 6000 rpm shifts.
You never appreciate having Symetrical AWD untill you actually get in a Subaru car. The Forester would be my choise in the future. It was designed for offroad purposes. The clearance and the AWD just five you so much confidence driving. CVT may sound disgusting but i gotta give credits to Subaru. Subaru did a lot of research before they started making the CVT ( Belts, Fluids etc.) If you read the owners manual for proper usage of the transmission you wont have problems with it. The crosstrek seems a bit small to me. Now for the final part. When you buy a Subaru you dont just buy a vehicle, you buy a key to a whole family. The Subie family. I can't express the feeling of being in a Subaru meet. I have a 1st gen foz and i regularly go on small offroad trips with the local Subie group. Ive made so much new friends. Hope this concludes it for you!
Joe, I need to mention something a lot of people are not aware of. The passenger seat in the Forester does not accommodate people of small stature. Anyone small of frame sitting in the passenger seat will find their feet will not touch the floor, making extended rides extremely uncomfortable, as there is no way to lift the weight of the lower legs off the knee joints. There is no adjustment or option from Subaru that will change the condition. It's not like the Japanese people are a large framed race, so this leaves us puzzled. The seating position in the XV passenger seat is fine. We own a 2013 XV Limited and have loved it, but my wife wants a bigger boot and more room for hauling stuff. She thought she wanted a new Forester Limited. We went in intending to make a purchase right then and there. That all ended when we switched drivers on the test drive and she sat in the passenger seat. She looked for the lever that would lower the seat bottom, as is present for the driver's seat, but there isn't one. Quite the blunder from Subaru. Ergonomics in cars is important, because we spend so much time in them. The front passenger is not a second class citizen when he or she may be the one paying over $30k for the ride. There is quite the jump in cost for an Outback Limited, so we are researching seating in other vehicles similar to the Forester. The AWD Honda CR-V is accommodating to front passengers of small stature and the mpg is almost the same or a little better, near top mpg performance. We plan to inspect the new AWD RAV4. What good is a vehicle if one can't sit in it comfortably?
I really appreciate you taking the time to point out to everyone this issue about the seats. That is really great of you to bring up. My wife and I were talking about the same issue. Try the Rav4 and see how it goes.
@@RaitisRides Just trying to make most purchasers wake up for the person to their right. It's sad that Subaru doesn't care. They are great cars, but this borders on discrimination.
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Somebody commented that they don't consider the crosstrek a SUV. I wanted the AWD on the sedan but just to small for traveling--purchased the crosstrek premium trim and absolutely love. I thought it was a happy medium between the forester and the sedan!!
smart easy engineering and ergonomics! why are the Cadillacs hurting!? they need a lesson from Subaru regarding technology and user friendly interface for users.. great value, great cars...
I have the new Forester Sport and love it. We also get a ton of people asking about it and admiring it. As much as reviewers tend to point out how boxy it is, no one really seems to care.
Well because of you and the past videos of Subaru's , I'm seriously considering a new Forester sport, if i can just get past the Horrible dealers near me. That aside I'm super impressed with Forester , just the LACK of XT model pisses me off. Still won't stop me from buying one though. So much value for the money.
Doug T I just bought the forester sport. Really love it and recommend it. Originally was going to get the crosstreck but for the little price difference the sport is awesome and has the better xmode if you live in a wintery place
Doug T I'm in the exact same boat as you. If you have a Costco membership (or know anyone who does), you can get a discounted price and don't have to deal with the haggling and B.S. that dealers put you through. Costco partners up with certain dealers, and they have to honor the price that Costco sets for each vehicle. I'm hoping to get out to the dealer this week to take one for test drive. Good luck.
@@LeafwortThumbfloggin it's not about the price. I've got great pricing from most dealers. I find most Subaru dealers almost detestable They're attitude has me boggled, they are truly are a different bunch of people . That and we can't get together in on the trade every dealer is at least 3k less than what the Honda dealers will give. The way it looks I'm going to buy a New Accord 2.0T this week. I want the forester but I won't take that kind of financial hit.
I like the Crosstreck. I considered the Crosstrek before my Eclipse Cross. I love the look inside and out of the Crosstrek and they are reliable. In the end went with Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL with Touring Package and SAWC because of the more features like heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, sliding reclining rear seats, dual pano roof, adjustable led headlights, power folding mirrors, rain sensing wipers, 710 watt 9 speaker rockford fosgate audio system, dual zone climate control, 360 display camera with steering wheel buttons and view change, heads up display, mitsubishi connect, reliability (have owned 5 Mitsubishis) and more. Now the Subie gets better fuel econemy for sure but the Mitsu was far quicker and more peppy. Even though the horsepower is like the same between the two the Mitsu has a turbo and like 36 more ft lbs of torque and it makes a difference. Both CVTs were ery similar and are quite refined and fake step shift nicely. The Eclipse Cross was quieter while cruising and at highway speed but the Subie had a better in town ride over bumps than my Eclipse Cross. One other thing that sealed the deal was my top trim loaded Eclipse Cross was close to $33,000.00 with options and accessories but with discounts and rebates I got it for under $26,000.00 which was close to $7,000.00 off! Could not beat it and the 10/100,000 mile powertrain warranty. Point is they are both neat and unique looking compact crossovers that comes down to content and personal styling choice. I think both look awesome and both are nice vehicles!
I’ve got a 2003 Forester but I can’t decide if I want another Forester or a Crosstrek. I’ve also been looking at a Discovery Sport since the 96 Discovery was my first vehicle but that one is a tad more expensive and I’d need to get like a 2016-2017 model compared to a brand new Subaru lol. I just love the Land Rovers though.
i own a 2016 impreza sport and when your driving calm it does feel really smooth cvt-ish BUT when you stomp on it the trans does have fake shift points that subaru engineered to make it feel more traditional . Once you hit about 100mph then it does hang the rpm at like 5k -6k. Ive only hit about 110-120 or so before you run out of highway LOL it does take a good minute though haha...
I’m about to get my license and my dad and I are wondering which one would be safer. We love the cross trek but we are worried that if I get into accident it won’t be as safe.
Both of them are great cars. As long as you guys do maintenance, put the car on right handling & though Subaru does not have great design like competitors, they are amazingly functional cars in highway and light to medium off roads.
One of things I didn’t understand about the previous generation forester was how hard it was to find one with fog lights. At least in SoCal. The outback and crosstrek came with them standard.
I sold Subaru for a short time back in 2016. I loved the cars. Comment about the turbo Forester not selling. It was my first sale. Nice car. All of the base Subaru’s had adequate power the 3.6 seemed a to be a little better but not needed unless you really needed it and I wouldn’t want to tow with a Subaru anyway. Oh I sold my bother and his daughter on Subaru’s -they didn’t buy from me my dealership was in TX they were in NY.
Got into a crosstrek for the first time today, and my heart literally fluttered, I can’t stop looking at them now
They are really nice!
Just had a snow storm last night, drove through 2 feet of snow to get out of my driveway with my 2015 XV. Neighbours were watching, I bet they were hoping that I get stuck. Sure it's not a fast car, but I needed a regular car that's AWD and jacked up to get me through our long snowy winters up North.
That is an awesome story! Thank you so much for sharing!
Amazing in the snow, even on stock Yokohama Geolanders.
Watching this video only thinking about AWD and snow coming in January. Last year had a terrible experience with my Corolla and desperately looking for an upgrade before December.
@@aGuyWhoPatsDogs that was my concern is the snow. I moved out to no man's land and the snow can be a pain. Im currently trying to decide if I want to go the Jeep Compass route or the Crosstrek.
@@Saxie81 I've never driven a Jeep Compass, but I will say I blow past them, Wranglers, 4runners, and almost everything on my way to work in snow storms. I won't sit here and tell you a Crosstrek will beat any of those in a serious offroad trail, but I 100% believe it's better on snow covered roads and hard packed dirt roads.
Am I the only Subaru owner without a kayak?
It seems like it is also mandatory! lol
Craig M no
Yes
Does a canoe count?
Yes, indeed, although I do place my walrus wife on the roof from time to time.
We bought the 19 Crosstrek for my wife last year, and it’s fantastic! You’re spot on with your review and I agree with you about the excessive number of buttons, not my thing either. After driving it for close to a year the only fault I found was the stock all-season tires aren’t enough for my hilly, snowy area. They’re perfect with most conditions but an AT upgrade will happen before Fall this year. I’m 6’4 and have no problems with seating or leg room... however, my wife wants the Forester now. So I’ll gladly keep the Crosstrek and she’ll get the Forester. We do no off-road travel but this vehicle can go anywhere during any weather.
Raiti, you are one of only a few people who can get me excited about a Subaru....Nice Job!
If you don't have a family or large dog I would go with a Crosstrek. It's so much different from the rest of Subarus line up. It looks sporty and has the more interesting colors. I hope Subie figures out they can attractive younger buyers and they're designs don't have to be so safe all the time. I do wish the Crosstrek has 170-180 HP. That would really be better. I like the new Forester it's an evolution of the design which again is just conservative.
Totally agree... with the philosophy of having big windows (because is "safer") the XV doesn't really have massive windows, still pretty good in terms of light interior and visibility, but it looks so good!
That is some very good input! Thank you so much for watching!
Very good points that you made! I really like how great the Crosstrek looks!
Looks "sporty" but it drives like a turd. This could be Subaru new slogan.
They just need to add a turbocharged option to each model.
This is your BEST video. Please make more comparison videos.
Greta job! Love the energy!
fantastic!! Just what I needed to decide between the Forester and Crosstrek :)
Surprisingly good review. Lots of good info and easy to understand without being boring.
That really means a lot!
Love Subaru! Love the comparison video keep them up!!
super complete and informative . thanks for pulling it together.
That is so awesome of you to say Steve!
Been here since 10k subs its nice to see the channel grow!!!
Thank you Kevin for taking the time to say that! I really appreciate your support!
Thanks for showing the different features between the Crosstrek and Forester. Now I have more information before going to dealership.
Got a brand new 2019 Crosstrek Limited this week. Love it so far. Can be a bit slow on the high end but can kick in lower gears. Great ride, great options. Sound system is also tops.
Congrats! You will get many smiles per miles!
I like your comparison and your pointing out some areas where the cars could be improved.
Thank you David! That is really great of you to say!
I switched from the 2017Forester to 2019 Crosstrek to give me more room in a small garage. I love how both drive but what I HATE about the Crosstrek is that they do not have a power lift gate for the trunk, even on their most expensive model. And even though I saw hundreds of complaints from short people that they could not reach the top of the trunk to close it manually, Subaru still failed to add it as an option on their Crosstrek 2020 model. I use a rope on the trunk, but that always gets caught in the lock and, I am ready to find a new car with a lift gate even though I'll be taking a serious loss on my Crosstrek. If you're short - do not buy a Crosstrek unless you want to be angry every time you need to open and close the trunk.
"Alright guys is time to do a little bit of boxing" haha that was epic
It would be a great intro everytime you do a boxer engine review
I am so glad that you liked that! That is a great suggestion!
Great review Joe! Every time you say something about carrying kayaks I keep laughing.
Thanks brother! I hope you are enjoying your extra time!
Thanks for the detailed review. As a person that is not 6' tall, I will find the seats appropriate.
Bought my 2013 Crystal Black Silica XV Crosstrek in Los Angeles in Jan 2014 prior to moving to the MidWest. Best automotive choice I’ve made, especially during the Winter... and still goin’ strong, yo!
Thanks for making the video. I am shopping for a Subaru and the video help me decide between the forester and the cross trek
You are so very welcome Jim! Good luck with the search!
Got the Suburu Forestor sport and absolutely love it!!
Its white with black and orange...and will keep its value
Go with the Forestor
Great and practical comparison! Thank you.
Excellent comparison video Joe! I really like the Crosstrek and considered buying one but ended up getting a 2019 Outback with the 3.6 engine and I think it's a fantastic vehicle. Whenever you have a Subaru video my ears perk up!
Thank you Mark for sharing your input and your experience! There will be more to come!
The crosstrek is my dream car,I can’t wait to one day own one!
You can do it Amanda!
Good
luck i believe u can do it !
@@RaitisRides
Can you review the new 2020 Ford Transit Connect with its multiple engine options? Its getting the same 2.0L twin turbo diesel engine that the international Ranger Raptor has been using for a while.
Good job with this Review Brother! I'm plan on buying one this summer, the 2019 Crosstrek.
Thanks Sam that really means a lot! Let me know if you have any questions! What color are you getting!
I plan on purchasing the Sunshine Orange! Take care and keep up the good work!
I'M GONNA GET THE 2019 RAV4 ADVENTURE AFTER YOU DO THE VIDEO FOR ME MY MAN! DID SOME RESEARCH AND SPOKE TO OTHERS WHO HAD SUBARU'S........THEY JUST AREN'T REALIBLE LIKE THE TOYOTA'S!
Yo Raiti we love ur reviews !!
Thanks for letting me share them with you1
Prop rod on the Forester. I believe it has two positions, which you couldn't get with the piston.
Thank you so much for sharing these extra tidbits of info!
Thanks for mentioning the seat length. We have the opposite problem, being short people. And most reviewers never consider how things are for short people, only tall people. In some brands the seat bottom is too long and uncomfortable if you have shorter legs. Anyway, that was helpful that you talked about it because now I know the seat will be ok for us. Ideally, in the future, maybe cars could have adjustable seat bottoms.
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
The most expensive one is always the best one from a dealers point of view.
Of course it is! Thanks for watching!
Thank you for posting this
You are so very welcome!
2:51 I think if you realize this bumper cover is also used on the Sport trim. On the Sport trim, the fog lights are vertical and take up more space in that direction. So I think the answer is this is a shared area for all trim levels and they needed to design that into it. I'd buy the Forester over the Trek for sure.
I appreciate your feedback and perspective!
What about the sound system? I need Bose
Hello Joe, I'm enjoying your thoughtful inside on the Subaru brand for about 3 weeks now, I also subscribed to your channel, based on what I like
And bang for my buck, I'm going with the 2020 Forester Sport with the Harman Kardon audio system, beautiful utilitarian dependable SUV, many thanks.
Hi Riccardo! Thank you so much for reaching out! I really appreciate you letting me share my passion for cars with you! Congrats on your decision to go with the Forester! You will love it!
Had a 97 L wagon as an island beater. It was perfect.
Thanks for sharing your input!
I have the 2018 Limited edition crosstrek and it does come with a dual climate control. I’m 5’2” and the seats are great. The Canadian ones come with heated steering wheel.
Thank you for the extra info and for watching!
It does?? Not when I was looking in Alberta!! I wish it did.
Do you do comparisons across brands? Would love to see a comparison of Forester versus Hyundai Santa Fe. (Might seem a bit random, but those are two of the best SUVs for short drivers, so others may appreciate the same comparison.) Thanks!
Nice review, Like !
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Great video again Joe, for me I think the Forester is a better buy, looks better IMO as well.
You are getting more vehicle that is for sure!
Seems a lot of manufacturers are hiding the exhaust tips on direct injection motors like the crosstrek. The exhaust tips tend to blacken from soot.
Yeah but the Forester doesn't do that and it's engine is direct injected.
As these vehicles are being used more often for sleeping in, would be great to show that the seats to now lie down nice and flat like other vehicles - and no raiser to adjust that floor either.
A really good review. It's 8.7 inches of ground clearance, btw, and those hooks in the back for grocery bags aren't new.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts ad input! I appreciate you watching!
I like that carbon fiber fitting, but I hope there is power source at the cargo area in the Crosstrek.
Very good points!
Didn’t mention the optional six speed manual on the Crosstrek! Sounds like Subaru is putting the 2.5 in the Crosstrek for 2021 which would be nice too!
Love both. We have a 2018 Impreza. If you don't need the ground clearance & bigger tires, you can save $2K with the Impreza versus Crosstrek. Just saying.
This is very true!
Great video! I own a 2019 crosstrek premium and love it, but dislike that they took out the temperature gauge on the odometer. :/ why did your wife sell her 2015 crosstrek?
I was surprised too, but there's an indicator in the upper center dash that tells whether the coolant of cold or normal temperature if it helps ...
just looking at the front bumper cover on the Crosstrek I'm 99% positive the reason the ABS plastic doesn't go from the bottom of the bumper all the way to the fender flare has to do with brake cooling. It leaves a channel for the air to get right next to the wheel to be sucked through the brakes.
I can see that, but I would like to do a little more research and find out.
the little extra wide rear seats will allow the 3 bumber seats fit just right. Safety for our grandkids comes first. Nice video, I do wish they would bring back some yellow on the rear lights. Telling my age. It just looks be
My wife trades cars like most people change socks...if they increase HP in crosstrek she will be fist in line to trade.
She traded a Honda with a V6 and 110k miles. But she was working ...now retired only local driving...no Hiway...but said she didn't miss the power in the Crosstrek...ill keep you informed on her and daughters review in the future....Subaru stock is climbing ...and the forester and crosstrek are two reasons why
They really have hit the suv nail on the head!
Both were based on the impreza
Xv was a replacement for impreza outback sport
Forester was originally based on impreza (98-06) it was also a wagon then, not an SUV
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Heck I still drive a 99 forester for a work beater. Made my daughters buy it for their first car. It does look more wagon like than they wanted to admit but go buy parts. It will be listed SuV
@@pcad2610 false. 99 fizzy is considered a wagon, it wasn't till gen3 foz when it became a light SUV
@@MidwestDankAlumni not false. I've seen it when I buy parts and at the parts store. Listed as an suv. We can argue it all ya want but I know what I see
As a younger guy with no kids. I really have loved my 19 Limited Crosstrek. Its very comfortable, has a great sound system, great Apple car play, remote start from phone, and amazing in Snow. I wish it had a bit more power but id say the same if I had a forester. It has a more sporty fun look than the forester in my opinion and I really hate the rear lights on the forester. Cant wait to see the 2021 WRX though
Thanks for sharing that great input and for letting me share this one with you!
Subaru AWD is awesome! PS, remember to rotate tyres when oil change is due....to keep tread level on all 4 tyres even )
Very good point Geoff!
Excellent comparison, Joe! I originally wanted the Forester Premium, but at the time, no local dealer had that particular trim level in stock, so I went with the 2019 Forester 2.5i (Base) model. It has everything I needed in the Premium trim, except for the drivers seat Lumbar Support control. Seems like Subaru offers a bit more in their "base" trims than some other SUV brands.
I am so glad that you found the perfect car for you! Thank you for the compliment!
Raiti's Rides Thank you, sir! I hope so!
I'm sure you did!
Thanks for this comparison! I definitely like the Crosstrek better! It has better fuel economy than the Forester and I prefer to manually close the back hatch, rather than the push-button. I just wish the Crosstrek had more USB ports!
They get the same fuel economy.
@@seriouscatisserious I don't see how that could be true if they have different sized engines.
2018 Forester has the gas strut on engine hood, gone in 2019. Oh, your not supposed to Rev the engines until the warm up complete, there is a blue temp light that goes out when engine to operating tempature. I drove the Crosstrek and Forester, I purchased the Forester because I'm 6' tall and have more interior space in Forester vs Crosstrek. Big gripe for Crosstrek was the emergency brake hand grip dug into the side of leg.
WE did wait for the engines to warm up! The video is filmed and edited in a different order then what you see.
Joe the Crosstrek, Forester and Outback all have 8.7 inches of ground clearance. I have an '18 Crosstrek and love it. If you need more room for people and gear then Forester other wise the Crosstrek is lighter and sporty so more fun to drive.
Thanks for the great input Dan! I appreciate you watching!
What about Crosstrek engine and CVT reliability and longevity???
@@chrisk8187 Consumer reports has it near the top of it's class in reliability.
Had a 2019 Crosstrek loved and it was the base model but had alot features standard. Use it as a daily to work 220 miles a day. Construction life lol. It gave me impressive mileage. I got 35 to 36 mpg on the freeway. Full tank got me 2 days back and forth plus a quarter left. Eye sight helps alot especially when you're driving long and your falling asleep car corrects you and warns you. The adapted cruise control is awesome and save you form accident. But sadly got rear ended hard in a stop sign and it did its job save my life. Now wounded if I should get the Forester and would I get the same mpg.
Thank you for sharing that great input from your onwership experience!
My 2017 forester was getting 35 to 36mpg for long rides. Do it.
Thanks I still deciding in a Forester or outback same engine should give same gas mileages.
Plastic makes it look more off road capable?
It will take the wear better than gloss black.
Traded in a 2016 Crosstrek for a 2019 Crosstrek. Originally thought about a Forester but my 5 foot 90 lb wife couldn't get comfortable when test driving it, When I took the 2019 Crosstrek in for service , they gave me a Forester as a loaner.Handling was totally different. I felt I was all over the road in the Forester compared to my Crosstrek.
Awesome review, will go with the forrester!
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
We test drove a 2019 RAV4 last week and the first thing my 5'3" 110lb wife said was "these seats are too short". The RAV4 interior (especially doors) felt like cheap plastic. Subaru's were nicer and the "under powered" comment is overblown after driving the Crosstrek and Outback. I like the ride of the Outback and Crosstrek better than the RAV4 but just saw a dark grey Forester Sport (with orange highlights) and it was very stylish - sort of Range-Roverish. We will try one this weekend. FYI - The Outback seems best for me (towing capacity, ride, height and length for our long kayak, storage with seats up, price after current incentives) but is a wagon and the redesigned 2020 with global platform is only 6 months away.
Thanks for sharing that great input and perspective!
Kayak friendly, bicycle friendly? barely a bike in Forester--outback 2020 - mpg?
What does this “global platform” thing mean I keep hearing?
I’m actually very happy with the CVT on my Crosstrek. I would rather them get rid of the paddle shifters and replace it with back vents, back and front USBs and a 110v plug-in in the trunk area.
have you reviewed the Outlander? Are made a comparison video of all compact SUVs?? A rav4 with Hyundai seats.
Tat is one I need to get my hands on! I will try to get a hold of one! Their dealer network really stinks!
What about the engine and CVT transmission reliability and longevity??? These are the MAIN issues.
Thanks!
Chris K three transmission plus three wheel bearings plus two front cv axles all before 90000 miles junk cars stick with Toyota
Are the subaru foresters still having problems burning oil? Been reading a lot about this issue
That is a great question Marco!
Thanks for the video. Am cross shopping either the 2019 CX5, forester or xv. But in the Phil., all 3 vehicles have 2.0 liter engines. I like the XV and CX5 for looks, the forester for space, seats, convenience, safety features, and the CX5 for handling and the 6-speed auto trans., premium-ness. I really value safety, and when I read about the eyesight system was impressed by the Subie. Having AWD is not essential but may come in handy. Of the xv or forester, do they need premium gas? It may come down to dealer service. Mazda is throwing in first 60,000 kms service and parts, liquids free during PMS, among other things. Have owned a Crv, rav4, Rogue before but never a Subie. Am hoping to hear from Subie owners on their ownership experience.
Thank you so for sharing your input and perspective on that! I appreciate you watching! Neither use premium!
Regular gas. Loving my 18 Crosstrek 18000 miles so far. I owned a Honda Civic si before this, won driver of the year in my class two years in a row with it racing autocross with my club. I have raced autocross for almost 30 years, and switching to this car has not disappointed me, certainly not wrx power, but it has all the power I need. When you get hard enough on the gas, the cvt gives you just the right ratio, to get the revs where you want them. Half throttle brings you 3500 rpm shifts, 3/4 gets you 4500 rpm, 95% to full throttle gets you 6000 rpm shifts.
You never appreciate having Symetrical AWD untill you actually get in a Subaru car. The Forester would be my choise in the future. It was designed for offroad purposes. The clearance and the AWD just five you so much confidence driving. CVT may sound disgusting but i gotta give credits to Subaru. Subaru did a lot of research before they started making the CVT ( Belts, Fluids etc.) If you read the owners manual for proper usage of the transmission you wont have problems with it.
The crosstrek seems a bit small to me.
Now for the final part.
When you buy a Subaru you dont just buy a vehicle, you buy a key to a whole family. The Subie family. I can't express the feeling of being in a Subaru meet. I have a 1st gen foz and i regularly go on small offroad trips with the local Subie group. Ive made so much new friends.
Hope this concludes it for you!
Would like to see a Crosstrek vs Outback comparison
Joe, I need to mention something a lot of people are not aware of. The passenger seat in the Forester does not accommodate people of small stature. Anyone small of frame sitting in the passenger seat will find their feet will not touch the floor, making extended rides extremely uncomfortable, as there is no way to lift the weight of the lower legs off the knee joints. There is no adjustment or option from Subaru that will change the condition. It's not like the Japanese people are a large framed race, so this leaves us puzzled.
The seating position in the XV passenger seat is fine. We own a 2013 XV Limited and have loved it, but my wife wants a bigger boot and more room for hauling stuff. She thought she wanted a new Forester Limited. We went in intending to make a purchase right then and there. That all ended when we switched drivers on the test drive and she sat in the passenger seat. She looked for the lever that would lower the seat bottom, as is present for the driver's seat, but there isn't one. Quite the blunder from Subaru. Ergonomics in cars is important, because we spend so much time in them. The front passenger is not a second class citizen when he or she may be the one paying over $30k for the ride.
There is quite the jump in cost for an Outback Limited, so we are researching seating in other vehicles similar to the Forester. The AWD Honda CR-V is accommodating to front passengers of small stature and the mpg is almost the same or a little better, near top mpg performance. We plan to inspect the new AWD RAV4. What good is a vehicle if one can't sit in it comfortably?
I really appreciate you taking the time to point out to everyone this issue about the seats. That is really great of you to bring up.
My wife and I were talking about the same issue. Try the Rav4 and see how it goes.
@@RaitisRides Just trying to make most purchasers wake up for the person to their right. It's sad that Subaru doesn't care. They are great cars, but this borders on discrimination.
I can totally see where you are coming from!
Yes fully agree about options both need a turbo option as well as manual transmission
Great minds think a like!
Crosstrek comes in manual too
Great video
Thanks for letting me share it with you Ben!
Will 17” wheels fit the Forester Limited, or are the calipers too big? I want an extra set for winter driving.
I believe there should not be any clearance issues.
I will stick with my 3.6R Outback ! But great video!!!
Arthur Anderson agree. Decent engine and takes regular.
I would prefer an Outback myself as well! Thanks for the compliment!
So very true!
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Thanks brother! That really means a lot!
Do all crosstrek have no rear ac?
No rear AC to speak of. :-(
Somebody commented that they don't consider the crosstrek a SUV. I wanted the AWD on the sedan but just to small for traveling--purchased the crosstrek premium trim and absolutely love. I thought it was a happy medium between the forester and the sedan!!
Good video dude... Thanks
Thanks for saying that Fernando! I appreciate you watching!
smart easy engineering and ergonomics! why are the Cadillacs hurting!? they need a lesson from Subaru regarding technology and user friendly interface for users.. great value, great cars...
Is it easy to get in and out of (6')?
Yes
Missing air vents and charger stations in the back was a dealbreaker for me I made my choice😆
Btw forester limited trim is like 5k more than limited trim for crosstrek
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I have the new Forester Sport and love it. We also get a ton of people asking about it and admiring it. As much as reviewers tend to point out how boxy it is, no one really seems to care.
You got a good one! What color did you get?
@@RaitisRides The dark blue pearl. The pearlescent is crazy. Looks vibrant blue in direct sunlight but damn near black in the evening.
That is a beautiful color! Well done!
Wouldn’t two tail pipes on the Forester mean more cost when the exhaust system needs to be replaced?
Don't replace it then, problem solved. ;-)
How do you not know that it's 8.7 inches of ground clearance for both? Been that way since the 2014 Forester came out. Yikes....
Thank you for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Well because of you and the past videos of Subaru's , I'm seriously considering a new Forester sport, if i can just get past the Horrible dealers near me. That aside I'm super impressed with Forester , just the LACK of XT model pisses me off. Still won't stop me from buying one though. So much value for the money.
I am glad that I could help! Please let me know if you have any questions and keep me in the loop!
Doug T I just bought the forester sport. Really love it and recommend it. Originally was going to get the crosstreck but for the little price difference the sport is awesome and has the better xmode if you live in a wintery place
Doug T I'm in the exact same boat as you. If you have a Costco membership (or know anyone who does), you can get a discounted price and don't have to deal with the haggling and B.S. that dealers put you through. Costco partners up with certain dealers, and they have to honor the price that Costco sets for each vehicle. I'm hoping to get out to the dealer this week to take one for test drive. Good luck.
@@LeafwortThumbfloggin it's not about the price. I've got great pricing from most dealers. I find most Subaru dealers almost detestable They're attitude has me boggled, they are truly are a different bunch of people . That and we can't get together in on the trade every dealer is at least 3k less than what the Honda dealers will give. The way it looks I'm going to buy a New Accord 2.0T this week. I want the forester but I won't take that kind of financial hit.
How does the bigger, heavier and faster Forester get the same mileage as the Crosstrek?
Ask Subaru.
I like what Subaru is doing but I’ll stick with my classic 2.5RS coupe, nice in depth video!!
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
I'd get a legacy or outback if I had to get a Subaru,but I'd wait for the 2020 Ford escape
I would be all over an Outback!
Can't justify Crosstrek in order to save slightly under $1K. Seems like the Forester is so-much-more car for just a little bit extra.
I can totally understand where you are coming from!
I like the Crosstreck. I considered the Crosstrek before my Eclipse Cross. I love the look inside and out of the Crosstrek and they are reliable.
In the end went with Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross SEL with Touring Package and SAWC because of the more features like heated steering wheel, heated rear seats, sliding reclining rear seats, dual pano roof, adjustable led headlights, power folding mirrors, rain sensing wipers, 710 watt 9 speaker rockford fosgate audio system, dual zone climate control, 360 display camera with steering wheel buttons and view change, heads up display, mitsubishi connect, reliability (have owned 5 Mitsubishis) and more.
Now the Subie gets better fuel econemy for sure but the Mitsu was far quicker and more peppy. Even though the horsepower is like the same between the two the Mitsu has a turbo and like 36 more ft lbs of torque and it makes a difference. Both CVTs were ery similar and are quite refined and fake step shift nicely. The Eclipse Cross was quieter while cruising and at highway speed but the Subie had a better in town ride over bumps than my Eclipse Cross.
One other thing that sealed the deal was my top trim loaded Eclipse Cross was close to $33,000.00 with options and accessories but with discounts and rebates I got it for under $26,000.00 which was close to $7,000.00 off! Could not beat it and the 10/100,000 mile powertrain warranty.
Point is they are both neat and unique looking compact crossovers that comes down to content and personal styling choice. I think both look awesome and both are nice vehicles!
I’ve got a 2003 Forester but I can’t decide if I want another Forester or a Crosstrek. I’ve also been looking at a Discovery Sport since the 96 Discovery was my first vehicle but that one is a tad more expensive and I’d need to get like a 2016-2017 model compared to a brand new Subaru lol. I just love the Land Rovers though.
Take them for a test drive!
its there for added lights if you need..its a cut out 3:00
i own a 2016 impreza sport and when your driving calm it does feel really smooth cvt-ish BUT when you stomp on it the trans does have fake shift points that subaru engineered to make it feel more traditional . Once you hit about 100mph then it does hang the rpm at like 5k -6k. Ive only hit about 110-120 or so before you run out of highway LOL it does take a good minute though haha...
Thanks for sharing that great input from your experience!
What happened to 8.7 inches???
I tripped over my thoughts! Thank your for understanding!
I’m about to get my license and my dad and I are wondering which one would be safer. We love the cross trek but we are worried that if I get into accident it won’t be as safe.
I honestly feel like when there is no turbo charge in a vehicle with a 4cyl engine its a heart break.
Great rev, thanks
Thanks Mike for letting me share it with you!
Both of them are great cars. As long as you guys do maintenance, put the car on right handling & though Subaru does not have great design like competitors, they are amazingly functional cars in highway and light to medium off roads.
One of things I didn’t understand about the previous generation forester was how hard it was to find one with fog lights. At least in SoCal. The outback and crosstrek came with them standard.
That is a very good point!
I sold Subaru for a short time back in 2016. I loved the cars. Comment about the turbo Forester not selling. It was my first sale. Nice car. All of the base Subaru’s had adequate power the 3.6 seemed a to be a little better but not needed unless you really needed it and I wouldn’t want to tow with a Subaru anyway. Oh I sold my bother and his daughter on Subaru’s -they didn’t buy from me my dealership was in TX they were in NY.
They brought xt back for legacy, do you think they will here?
I am keeping my fingers crossed!
the forester STI concept is coming so expect an STI forester
We will see how it turns out!
@@RaitisRides just search for it i think it debut already
I saw it but I am not so sure it will come to our shores looking like that.