That's showing how person can easily be demonized just because they accted against society rules or traditions. Eclipsa's biggest drive was, that she didn't want to stay in loveless, political marriage so she run away to her lover. Second - person she loved was from different race, so their child turn hybrid. I can bet Eclipsa's human ex- husband also loved to turning Eclipsa looks like evil person.
That fact that High Commission was willing to let themselves, Shawn, Eclipsa, Star and Moon be crushed to death rather than admitted they had replaced the true heir of Mewni with a peasant girl and had been feeding this lie to all of Mewni speaks volumes about all of them.
The fact that this trial uncovered the most biggest controversy of the royal family. That for the past 300 years since the imprisonment of Eclipsa, the Butterfly bloodline never continued. Moon and Star doesn't have a single drop of Butterfly blood in their blood.
You're right, but it's not like there's no historical precedent for something like this. Tons of monarchies haven't had heirs and looked outside their own bloodline for someone suitable. Moon and Star still have a claim to the throne. For one thing, the adoption of Festivia as the new princess was planned by the current king and the magic high council. I think we can all agree it's a dick move, but strictly speaking it's probably legal. More importantly, Festivia's heirs have sat on the throne for the last 300 years. That kind of track record lends legitimacy to their reign. Essentially, Star was right to give the throne back to Eclipsa, and Eclipsa was right not to demand back the throne. She was right when she told Meteora not to try and take over the kingdom.
en realidad si tienen sangre butterfly, solo no por parte de meteora. recuerda que en una ocasion hubieron dos herederos, un chico y una chica (olvide sus nombres) solo se que el chico se fue con una pasteleña. posiblemente festivia sea descendiente de esta
They need a decree "On the inheritance of the throne." Then the queens could choose their successor and not necessarily their daughter. Then there would be no one to force if the daughter was not ready to take the throne or there were no worthy qualities. I think there were no problems with the wand. She herself does not accept a carrier by blood.
The MHC really destroyed two lives. Meteora spent most of her life not knowing who she really was. Festiva, who thought Eclipsa was her mother, believed that she never loved. Which led to her being a lush party girl.
2:16 I feel so bad for her. She lost the love of her life like 200-300 years ago, and now, she can't see him other than her tapestry and that hologram.
That's showing how person can easily be demonized just because they accted against society rules or traditions. Eclipsa's biggest drive was, that she didn't want to stay in loveless, political marriage so she run away to her lover. Second - person she loved was from different race, so their child turn hybrid. I can bet Eclipsa's human ex- husband also loved to turning Eclipsa looks like evil person.
Considering that a) the setting was set to a harsher format and b) this was something of a long con on all 3 of there parts, it was probably better she didn’t
When first saw this episode I had the realization that the real Butterfly bloodline ends at Meteora, as Festivia is not a Butterfly... so Moon and Star is not true Butterfly family
Just looking at the former King's face, I think Eclipsa eloped for genuine love and probably to get away from that royal fribble. Chances are we're going to get some back-story about how much of a creepo the ex hubby was in comparison to her "Monster" of a lover. X'D
@@elijahhayter3026 valid in *that* time. This is a modern day cartoon, it doesn't have to nor should it follow those values when they're no longer acceptable *today*
Box of truth: Who do you have a crush on? Rhombulus: Queen moon! (quickly covers his mouth blushing) (the others look with a serious face) He messed up big time
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Personally , i think Eclipsa is never truly evil, if you guys read the chapter about her in the magical book. i think you may surprise that eclipsa trying to bring the mew-mans and the monsters together in the way of peace well at least most of the monsters with Globgor help, i say this cuz the Septarians - like toffy - is another story. I think Eclipsa story is a valuable lesson about unconditional love and acceptance between mewman and monster that could bring the peace of 2 kingdom. Well of course, she has a lot of dark or forbidden spells but that's not using for the bad or evil just in case for something unbeatable like toffy or Solarian soldiers. So i think Eclipsa is never truly evil, just being misunderstood and be blame for not following high magical comission standards.
Yeah, she merely didn't want to stay in a political loveless marriage like the one she had with her ex husband, trust me in the book you can see how much of a jerk she was and even in the show he gave a baby that wasn't his to a robot that basically mentally and emotionally abused her turning her into Heinous so no wonder why Globgor ate him, like they took his daughter away, so of course he was mad. And the marriage with Globgor wasn't just out of true love but it could also benefit Mewni because it would bring the war to an end and peace between monsters and mewmans. And her spells may be dark but that doesn't mean evil, it depends on how you use them like things in real life, For example, a lot philosophysts's theories are based on positive values or ideas but these can be latter twisted for nefaurious purposes like in Spain Primo de Rivera based on José Calvo Soleto ideas to implant a new system to continue his dictatorship, others that suffered the same would be Nietzsche, who was later accused of being a nazi because his ideas (alongside other Phylosophers's) inspired Hitler to write his book but Nietzsche had nothing to do with what Hitler did and Marx, whose idea of communism was taken to an extreme by Stalin. I know these are all dark examples but they are true and great examples of how something can be twisted into something bad by other people in real life Heck, its even more sad when you consider that some of Eclipsa's spells are her mother's and the ones of latter queens could have more awful and hard to undo consequences like the one that stops time by Crescenta the Eager or the one that makes ypu speaks only in riddles by Rhina The Riddled or the one that destroys an entire dimension by Skywyne the Queen of Hours. If you do something that isnt to society's liking, society ends up demonizing you.
@@claudialuquepazos2934 i understand and agree with your ideals 100%, so true and deep and reflect the society shallow thinking, i read many book about this and many wise scholars disagree with the crowd thinking, they're just blindly follow the unreasonable order from authority figures just like good sheep being controlled by a Wolf wear a Sheep Cloth - only Black Sheep see this but they're being rejected by White Sheep and calling them "Rebellious, Madness, Individual, Indifference".
@@claudialuquepazos2934 Eclipsa was a queen with duties. For love she abandoned her duties so she isn't perfect. She wrote a dangerous chapter in the book, with out security system to evitate was happened to Marco in a episode. I love her character but I recognize that the MHC and Moon have reasons to see her as a not-accountable person.
She admitted to writing evil magic, how is that good? You're saying it's ok she has a spell to spy on anyone or kill another person, spells that pull out the darkness from whoever uses it?
Geoff Roach, Yeah. It's already been confirmed she hasn't hurt anyone at least under the age of 20(except when they deserved it) and strongly hinted that she hasn;t done anything conclusively evil, she's just a free spirit who likes to do as she pleases, she even seems to have some level of morals as she left the family wand when she ran off. Also any weapon can be used for good, If she hadn't made the spell to kill the unkillable then Toffe would be running mewni from years ago
0:30-0:38-I loved how the callback to Sleepover where Star mentioned she used to play the Box of Truths and Moon angrily tells her the box is not a game after being horrified at what she said.
Are we going to ignore the fact that eclipsa wasn't even trying to defend herself even when she can like yes she wrote the "evil chapter" but it only had 2 evil spells and one was her mother's
Cassidy Plays She looks like she was about the same age, by the image that the truth box presented and the dude looks like he is wearing a wig. If it were an arranged marriage why didn't she say so?
CommonCommentatingCommentor All that mattered during the trial was that she loved a monster. But her look of disgust when shown King Shastacan does support the idea that the marriage was forced.
Again, eclipsa didn't have a problem add important details to the inaccuracies. When asked about the "Evil Chapter" she did point out that it was everyone else who gave that name and that there are other spells that never made it into the book. If she was forced in an arranged marriage, Why would she not criticize it or even point it? Pretty sure that would earn her some sympathy points.
Cassidy Plays Maybe, but that doesn't really matter as she was quick to turn firm. I'm not seeing anything in that clip that would imply a forced marriage. Perhaps in a future episode maybe, as for now it seems like speculation is all there is to go on.
Funnily enough is that most of spell Eclipsa wrote on the spell book actually the one that most useful in critical condition. All-seeing Eye to spy what could be someone plotting for bad things, Immortal Slaying to counter Immortal Race that threatening the balance of Mewni and Nameless Spell of Destruction as the only one way to destroy the Invicible Robot of the Warrior when they begin to revolting the Kingdom. Also the cocoon spell that kill and revive back someone to be a baby again for atoning their sin to be a new person to start over as what happened to Meteora The spell is considered mischievous and cruel that it named by the Ministry of Magic "Evil Chapter" but in fact that those spell serve as a tools to make no one are flawless to maintain the balance of Mewni
Party: “Who do you have a Crush on?”❤❤ Intervention:”We need to Talk”😑👄 Bachelorette:”Alright!!laddies!!”🎉🎉 Trial: “prepare for judgement”🧑⚖️ Oh if only there was a box or an app like that in real life it will be real funny 😆 😂
I'm still uncertain with Eclipsa. She seems good and all but she seems too calm for me.She was crystallized for years, her daughter taken away from her and yet she is still so calm and nice.There must be something missing here right?
I was thinking the same thing. And I think that she is very manipulative kind of person. She used her magic to calm Glossaryck down by touching his forehead but then she told Moon that she is not able to use magic without her wand. It's hard to trust her.
Her magic is evil because it requires a high will save, also, if she was evil maybe she is calm because throughout her experiments she learned how to game the box of truth.
Coconut Eater i can't buy into that the HMC treated her unfairly throughout the trail. Even heckapoo kept on checking evil even when there's no evidence to prove. I feel they wanted her to be evil but don't have a good reason for it. To me she seems like a rendering for the big bad, watch then waste their time on her and the true evil is just getting stronger aka to me her daughter
Very possible. But the writers could also be mind gaming us into believing that she isn't because she's said and done a lot of ambiguous things throughout the series. Like, she knows exactly where her scroll is, she knows where the archives are and how to get there, despite all the other queens not supposed to know it, plus she had a song about going into it, which meant she did it often. Maybe this was to hide her affair with her monster husband for awhile, but this could also be because she was hiding her experiments and removing the morally questionable things she's done, because she said all knowledge is good knowledge, but hasn't said anything about the way that knowledge is acquired. She's manipulated Moon into mind wiping the guy, and tried to convince star to ignore the rules. I mean, a lot of her actions could seem calculated if you look at it with the intention of seeing her as manipulative. I mean, maybe her magic isn't evil, it's probably just something that requires a lot of self-control and extremely logical movements, I mean, her interaction with young moon seemed to me like she was some kind of monkey's paw character. She also knew how to get glossaryck to sleep which meant she could have made him sleep when she was doing something questionable, she could have been straight up lying to moon about not knowing how to do magic without a wand to keep cards hidden, lots of shit. But one thing we cannot say is questionable is her running away to be with her adorable monster husband.
Rhombulus: DID YOU EAT THOSE BABIES?! Eclipsa: *confused* What? Hekapoo: *sighs* Bobipsa was the baby eater, not Eclipsa. Rhombulus: Oh, right. I wanna take my question back! Box of Truth: There are no take backs in Trial by Box!
Rhombulus is too cute to be a villain!! Along with the rest of the MHC...which is surely not too good either But I still think Eclipsa has some plans (like she said in Stranger Danger)...and I still love her!!
I think at least Rhombulus was dragged into this. He seems the most childlike and was the first one to tell the truth. What the MHC did was wrong, but I think Rhombulus can be forgiven for not fully understanding what he was doing and having to do what the rest of the council said.
Ok but I just realized how actually creepy it is that Rhombulus has a crush on moon, considering the fact he literally watched her grow her since she was a baby..
Though technically that wasn't the first one. Since in her chapter we learn the book was destroyed in a fire when she was a princess, and her mother had the wand before.
Anyone think the whole "Rhombulus has a crush on Moon" has aged kinda poorly? If you think about it he's known her since she was a teen. He's watched her mature into an adult and, while I know it definitely wasn't intentional to make that come off as creepy, the writing really didn't age well here.
Gonna agree with Heckapoo on the second one. Don't just run off with someone else if you don't love your current. Be an adult and have the hard talk. Edit: Yes, I know he's a bad person. But unless there's genuine fear of them, cheating isn't okay. She's a queen in a political marriage, and that needs to be taken into account, even if she's unhappy, that's part of political alliances. Even if you don't take the political stance, she can still scrub the marriage before running off. She had that power.
Considering he threw a child away without a second thought, something tells me he wasn't a good person. I agree with what you said, but considering the hypocrisy we were shown I wouldn't be surprised if she had good reason to run from him.
King Shastikan (sc) was a shithead. You have no obligation to a spouse with morals that would disturb any regular human, and Eclipsa bears no fault in the matter imo.
I dont get why Eclipsa being in love with globgor is a crime but tom's parents are ok? Tom even sais he is half mewman half monster so his mom is a monster and ok maby she is monster royalty but so is globgor, some one pleas explain because I am very confused
I think the difference is that Tom is from Underworld (that is another dimension, I guess), so people of his dimension are different than that of Mewni, Mewni is placed on another planet that has its own race of Monsters. To be fair, It was never actually clarified in the show, but that's what I gather will all the portals and all.
Why does Eclipsa sound so familiar to me? Does anyone on TH-cam know any other notable role her voice actress performed? Please let me know. Thank you very much.
Is someone gonna acknowledge that the king at the time replaced meteora & Eclipsa ran away so she wouldn't be in power to say no. So if the king Is in power he declares who the next heir is. So technically but not biologically Star is royalty.
2:16 WE CAN’T BLAME HER. Look at him! Them teeth, them muscles, those eyes (Lowkey the tapestry and the hologram did not do him justice and painted him as a monster). Who would not want to elope with a handsome man monster like this. I def would!
Rhombulus x Moon CONFIRMED
Frosty Wolfy the crush was pretty obvious anyway
Frosty Wolfy well who wouldn't have the hots for Moon? She's quite attractive
Frosty Wolfy #Moonbulus XDD
please don't...
Ok eso fue raro.
Frosty Wolfy, Oh no, the shippers.....
Her genuinely bewildered "wot?" when asked about eating babies kills me every time
Also shows how much of a sham trial this is as that still got her an evil checkmark.
Can we just point out the fact a previous Queen ATE BABIES yet Eclipsa is apparently the evil one
That's showing how person can easily be demonized just because they accted against society rules or traditions. Eclipsa's biggest drive was, that she didn't want to stay in loveless, political marriage so she run away to her lover. Second - person she loved was from different race, so their child turn hybrid.
I can bet Eclipsa's human ex- husband also loved to turning Eclipsa looks like evil person.
Every time people learn I'm a Satanist and think I do some stupid edgy shit:
@@AmberyTear DID YOU EAT THOSE BABIES?
Eclipsa's cheeks glowed pink when she saw her husband and she turned away when she saw her um...ex husband
Zairene Artistic you mean the weirdly dressed, no smiles, a-hole.
Box of truth is sans, also eclipsa doesn't even love shastican, she loved monsters, like chara but in a toriel way
@@floofycupkim1197 that allegory didn't really work buddy.
But when she saw the cuck
Well yeah her ex was prejudice. He wanted nothing to do with his half monster baby. Horrid man!
I cannot help but crack up every time I hear and see Moon switching the settings on the box.
Intervention: We need to have a talk-
A L R I G H T L A D I E S !!!
PREPARE FOR *JUDGEMENT*
I always wonder what the last notch is
That fact that High Commission was willing to let themselves, Shawn, Eclipsa, Star and Moon be crushed to death rather than admitted they had replaced the true heir of Mewni with a peasant girl and had been feeding this lie to all of Mewni speaks volumes about all of them.
As they should it was for the stability of the kingdom
@@rinray9685 hardest choice requires the strongest will
I think wath they did is terible
And they were willing to let Mina, kill Eclipsa and Meteora, so they can be in control again
Such racists they are if You see it as white and Black people in society in the past with people treating those of color as objects
The fact that this trial uncovered the most biggest controversy of the royal family.
That for the past 300 years since the imprisonment of Eclipsa, the Butterfly bloodline never continued. Moon and Star doesn't have a single drop of Butterfly blood in their blood.
You're right, but it's not like there's no historical precedent for something like this. Tons of monarchies haven't had heirs and looked outside their own bloodline for someone suitable.
Moon and Star still have a claim to the throne. For one thing, the adoption of Festivia as the new princess was planned by the current king and the magic high council. I think we can all agree it's a dick move, but strictly speaking it's probably legal.
More importantly, Festivia's heirs have sat on the throne for the last 300 years. That kind of track record lends legitimacy to their reign.
Essentially, Star was right to give the throne back to Eclipsa, and Eclipsa was right not to demand back the throne. She was right when she told Meteora not to try and take over the kingdom.
en realidad si tienen sangre butterfly, solo no por parte de meteora.
recuerda que en una ocasion hubieron dos herederos, un chico y una chica (olvide sus nombres) solo se que el chico se fue con una pasteleña. posiblemente festivia sea descendiente de esta
Well, it's debatable here
Hmm as far as I remember the glossary gave the wand to the first girl who came across-
They need a decree "On the inheritance of the throne." Then the queens could choose their successor and not necessarily their daughter. Then there would be no one to force if the daughter was not ready to take the throne or there were no worthy qualities. I think there were no problems with the wand. She herself does not accept a carrier by blood.
Are we going to ignore that the butterfly family had a history of being cannibals?
Bobipsa the Baby eater wasn’t queen of Mewni. She wasn’t even Mewman
Haha, don't we all humanity though 😒
@@decristal48 No Psycho, we don't.
@@EmptyMan000 Pretty sure yes, ignor4nt
@@tiaamdunord7817 I think there talking about the pie folk
0:49
Box: "Alright ladies! Are you-"
Me: I am dying here. 😂
xD kind of make you wonder who made that box and why
Wait why was he saying
Excuse me but you have any idea where i can find the full episode?
TheCoolGirl were
Please stop lying to me there is not this episode. IF THEY DIDNT EVEN RELEASED WHY DO YOU GIVE ME THE SITE ANYWAYYYYYYYYY
The MHC really destroyed two lives. Meteora spent most of her life not knowing who she really was. Festiva, who thought Eclipsa was her mother, believed that she never loved. Which led to her being a lush party girl.
Add 2 extra lives, eclipsa and globgor both got crystalized even tough they never deserved it, so the mhc actually destroyed 4 lives
actually in the book of spells festiva believed eclipsa was eaten by monsters
@@neko-otakustudios9127 and she didn't know she was crystallised?? That's crazy 😭
Mhc rlly are liars
@@bonniemaniac Cuz the mhc told her that her parents were eaten by monsters
@@bonniemaniac not kidding.
"QUEEN MOON!" Ha, called it.
Eclipsa blushing? That's cute.
*Intervention:* "We need to talk..."
*Bachelorette:* "ALRIGHT, LADIES! ARE YOU..?"
*Trial:* "PREPARE FOR JUDGMENT!"
Creater of the box was going through some stuff
How does the bachelorette setting even work?
@@KnightWolf417 probably for brides who are about to get married
@@KnightWolf417 cause that’s what a bachelorette party is right?
@@jacobmillenbach2561 I know that. I meant, what can it do when it’s on the bachelorette setting?
Box of truth: Who do you have a crush on?
Rhombulus: QUEEN MOON!
Everyone else: *Looks at Rhombulus*
Me: 😂😂😂😂
Everyone is like: The fuck??
Rip
It must be on the wrong setting
2:16 I feel so bad for her. She lost the love of her life like 200-300 years ago, and now, she can't see him other than her tapestry and that hologram.
Shayna Mc Caffrey they might reunite. In the promo there was something that looked like him.
MC_Axolotl true. Or maybe it was Meteora
Shayna Mc Caffrey she can still see him
That's showing how person can easily be demonized just because they accted against society rules or traditions. Eclipsa's biggest drive was, that she didn't want to stay in loveless, political marriage so she run away to her lover. Second - person she loved was from different race, so their child turn hybrid.
I can bet Eclipsa's human ex- husband also loved to turning Eclipsa looks like evil person.
I love it when Eclipsa sees Globgor her cheeks glow a little pink like she's blushing
Globgor is a huge improvement over the guy her mother picked her to be betrothed with.
I realized star could have shut off the box because she didn't take the oath
Considering that a) the setting was set to a harsher format and b) this was something of a long con on all 3 of there parts, it was probably better she didn’t
It was also a plan set up by Moon, Star, and Eclipsa anyway.
Also Star didn't have to take the oath because she's not affiliated with the Magical High Commission
When first saw this episode I had the realization that the real Butterfly bloodline ends at Meteora, as Festivia is not a Butterfly... so Moon and Star is not true Butterfly family
You mean 'biologically'.
@@charliefarmer4365 yeah sorry, I am non English speaker ... but it is not that hard to know what I meant
@@charliefarmer4365 shut up
@@anonymousina9210 yeah, it is still understandable. That person was just being nitoicky
@@anonymousina9210 bro you have nothing at all to be sorry for 🙂
Ok Eclipsa's old husband looks like a teapot to me
Sisi Yang i know
It’s to hide the fact he’s riddled with spider bites . 😒 disgusting man
FR😂
We need to talk. Alright, Ladies! Are you- PREPARE FOR JUDGEMENT!
The timing of those is so hilarious now that I come back to this.
Truth box: Who do you have a crush on?
Rhombulus: aah eh Queen Moon!....oh oh
Everyone: .......'----'
I love that part XD
0:37 Is Soooo Funny
Box : "Who Do You Have A Crush On?"
Romulus : "Queen Moon"
Just looking at the former King's face, I think Eclipsa eloped for genuine love and probably to get away from that royal fribble.
Chances are we're going to get some back-story about how much of a creepo the ex hubby was in comparison to her "Monster" of a lover. X'D
Cat Hope Her ex husband is a jerk 😡 Im sorry for Eclipsa
Anyone else find it a little weird that Rhombulus has a crush on Moon. Hasn't he known her since she was a child and he was an adult?
No more creepy than something out of seven deadly sins, and at least in Rhombulus‘ case it’s at least innocent enough given how childish he is.
Let's not forget when one of the crew said Rhombulus and that goat guy were 'husbands', even though every member of the MHC are considered siblings
@@drawnwithlove3499 there's a lot wrong with the council. kinda wish we'd see them realize that Star was killing magic
This is basically fairy tale medieval Europe. All of the gripes about the HMC in this comment thread are valid.
@@elijahhayter3026 valid in *that* time. This is a modern day cartoon, it doesn't have to nor should it follow those values when they're no longer acceptable *today*
My favorite is at 2:17 when she blushes just “hello sweetie”
Box of truth: Who do you have a crush on?
Rhombulus: Queen moon! (quickly covers his mouth blushing)
(the others look with a serious face)
He messed up big time
Ikr😑
“Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I did not eat a single baby.” That’s cute!
What's crazy is that they could have just exiled Eclipsa and let her live with her family happily. Instead, all this shady history happens.
EXACTLY they could have just taken the wand since she never learned to dip down like the others.
Then exiled them to the neverzone.
Box of truth settings: party: WhO dO YoU hAvE A CrUsH oN? intervention: we need to talk… bachelorette:AlRiGht LAdies, ARE YOU- trial: PREPARE FOR JUDGEMENT
I'll probably never get tired of this... 😅
Personally , i think Eclipsa is never truly evil, if you guys read the chapter about her in the magical book. i think you may surprise that eclipsa trying to bring the mew-mans and the monsters together in the way of peace well at least most of the monsters with Globgor help, i say this cuz the Septarians - like toffy - is another story. I think Eclipsa story is a valuable lesson about unconditional love and acceptance between mewman and monster that could bring the peace of 2 kingdom. Well of course, she has a lot of dark or forbidden spells but that's not using for the bad or evil just in case for something unbeatable like toffy or Solarian soldiers. So i think Eclipsa is never truly evil, just being misunderstood and be blame for not following high magical comission standards.
Yeah, she merely didn't want to stay in a political loveless marriage like the one she had with her ex husband, trust me in the book you can see how much of a jerk she was and even in the show he gave a baby that wasn't his to a robot that basically mentally and emotionally abused her turning her into Heinous so no wonder why Globgor ate him, like they took his daughter away, so of course he was mad. And the marriage with Globgor wasn't just out of true love but it could also benefit Mewni because it would bring the war to an end and peace between monsters and mewmans. And her spells may be dark but that doesn't mean evil, it depends on how you use them like things in real life, For example, a lot philosophysts's theories are based on positive values or ideas but these can be latter twisted for nefaurious purposes like in Spain Primo de Rivera based on José Calvo Soleto ideas to implant a new system to continue his dictatorship, others that suffered the same would be Nietzsche, who was later accused of being a nazi because his ideas (alongside other Phylosophers's) inspired Hitler to write his book but Nietzsche had nothing to do with what Hitler did and Marx, whose idea of communism was taken to an extreme by Stalin. I know these are all dark examples but they are true and great examples of how something can be twisted into something bad by other people in real life
Heck, its even more sad when you consider that some of Eclipsa's spells are her mother's and the ones of latter queens could have more awful and hard to undo consequences like the one that stops time by Crescenta the Eager or the one that makes ypu speaks only in riddles by Rhina The Riddled or the one that destroys an entire dimension by Skywyne the Queen of Hours.
If you do something that isnt to society's liking, society ends up demonizing you.
@@claudialuquepazos2934 i understand and agree with your ideals 100%, so true and deep and reflect the society shallow thinking, i read many book about this and many wise scholars disagree with the crowd thinking, they're just blindly follow the unreasonable order from authority figures just like good sheep being controlled by a Wolf wear a Sheep Cloth - only Black Sheep see this but they're being rejected by White Sheep and calling them "Rebellious, Madness, Individual, Indifference".
@@claudialuquepazos2934 Eclipsa was a queen with duties. For love she abandoned her duties so she isn't perfect.
She wrote a dangerous chapter in the book, with out security system to evitate was happened to Marco in a episode. I love her character but I recognize that the MHC and Moon have reasons to see her as a not-accountable person.
I NEVER doubted Eclipsa i knew she was good i ❤ her!!
She admitted to writing evil magic, how is that good? You're saying it's ok she has a spell to spy on anyone or kill another person, spells that pull out the darkness from whoever uses it?
Geoff Roach, Yeah. It's already been confirmed she hasn't hurt anyone at least under the age of 20(except when they deserved it) and strongly hinted that she hasn;t done anything conclusively evil, she's just a free spirit who likes to do as she pleases, she even seems to have some level of morals as she left the family wand when she ran off. Also any weapon can be used for good, If she hadn't made the spell to kill the unkillable then Toffe would be running mewni from years ago
@@jish55 It's more dark than evil to be honest
Who do have a crush on?
QUEEN MOON!
😹😹😹 I can't breathe 😹😹😹
2:11 gosh Heckapoo, asking an embarrassing personal question to Eclipsa?
Glitter Star I'm getting the feeling heckahoe wasn't no good
Eclipsa was already married when she ran off.
Her actions don't just affect her, they affect her kingdom.
(How's Meteora doing right now?)
CommonCommentatingCommentor I hope Meteora is fine
*_who do you have a crush on?_*
"q-queen moon!"
kinda shook me there
Tired Salad same
Tired Salad me too
Eclipsa was blushing, when she saw her Monster Husband. I could really see, that she did love him with all her heart. That was so cute... ❤❤
0:30-0:38-I loved how the callback to Sleepover where Star mentioned she used to play the Box of Truths and Moon angrily tells her the box is not a game after being horrified at what she said.
3:01 why did Heckapoo checked off evil? Eclipsa said she didn't eat babies..
Alyssa I cat it’s a kangaroo trial. Obviously they aren’t going to let her go because she can very easily tell Star the truth and/or cause a coup.
Because she admitted to psychologically harming teenagers and said they deserved it that's why
They just want an excuse to seal her back up again.
She also said she psychologically tortured people. That's still evil
@ Then that means the High Commission is evil as hell
Are we going to ignore the fact that eclipsa wasn't even trying to defend herself even when she can like yes she wrote the "evil chapter" but it only had 2 evil spells and one was her mother's
It looks like Eclipsa was forced into an arranged marriage. She was young and they obviously did not love each other.
Cassidy Plays
She looks like she was about the same age, by the image that the truth box presented and the dude looks like he is wearing a wig.
If it were an arranged marriage why didn't she say so?
CommonCommentatingCommentor
All that mattered during the trial was that she loved a monster. But her look of disgust when shown King Shastacan does support the idea that the marriage was forced.
Again, eclipsa didn't have a problem add important details to the inaccuracies. When asked about the "Evil Chapter" she did point out that it was everyone else who gave that name and that there are other spells that never made it into the book.
If she was forced in an arranged marriage, Why would she not criticize it or even point it?
Pretty sure that would earn her some sympathy points.
CommonCommentatingCommentor
I think she was too busy gushing over her monster love. She was definitely happy to see him after all that time.
Cassidy Plays
Maybe, but that doesn't really matter as she was quick to turn firm.
I'm not seeing anything in that clip that would imply a forced marriage.
Perhaps in a future episode maybe, as for now it seems like speculation is all there is to go on.
2:16 dawww eclipsa misses her husband
Aww! Eclipsa’s blushing!!😊 I love Her so MUCH
Funnily enough is that most of spell Eclipsa wrote on the spell book actually the one that most useful in critical condition. All-seeing Eye to spy what could be someone plotting for bad things, Immortal Slaying to counter Immortal Race that threatening the balance of Mewni and Nameless Spell of Destruction as the only one way to destroy the Invicible Robot of the Warrior when they begin to revolting the Kingdom. Also the cocoon spell that kill and revive back someone to be a baby again for atoning their sin to be a new person to start over as what happened to Meteora
The spell is considered mischievous and cruel that it named by the Ministry of Magic "Evil Chapter" but in fact that those spell serve as a tools to make no one are flawless to maintain the balance of Mewni
I’ve never actually watched this show but her voice when she says “hello, sweetie!” Just makes me really happy
Please dont Tell Me there is going to be a new ship...
#Moonbulus XD
She's married & has a daughter
Glitter Star i know!! I don't ship them! Why should I? Thats gross XD
The toffee and moon ship was better then this... xD
John Hamman i know right?xD
Aylin Duran yep xD
2:17 THEM BLUSHES THO GIRL!
This episode was a very interesting social commentary on accountability of authority and the usage of the roles "good" and "evil" in mass media
Wait til you learn of the Marcos family, they're a somewhat real-life example.
Party: “Who do you have a Crush on?”❤❤
Intervention:”We need to Talk”😑👄
Bachelorette:”Alright!!laddies!!”🎉🎉
Trial: “prepare for judgement”🧑⚖️
Oh if only there was a box or an app like that in real life it will be real funny 😆 😂
I'm still uncertain with Eclipsa. She seems good and all but she seems too calm for me.She was crystallized for years, her daughter taken away from her and yet she is still so calm and nice.There must be something missing here right?
I was thinking the same thing. And I think that she is very manipulative kind of person. She used her magic to calm Glossaryck down by touching his forehead but then she told Moon that she is not able to use magic without her wand. It's hard to trust her.
Devi Anne all she did was rub his gem, you don't need magic for that
Her magic is evil because it requires a high will save, also, if she was evil maybe she is calm because throughout her experiments she learned how to game the box of truth.
Coconut Eater i can't buy into that the HMC treated her unfairly throughout the trail. Even heckapoo kept on checking evil even when there's no evidence to prove. I feel they wanted her to be evil but don't have a good reason for it. To me she seems like a rendering for the big bad, watch then waste their time on her and the true evil is just getting stronger aka to me her daughter
Very possible. But the writers could also be mind gaming us into believing that she isn't because she's said and done a lot of ambiguous things throughout the series. Like, she knows exactly where her scroll is, she knows where the archives are and how to get there, despite all the other queens not supposed to know it, plus she had a song about going into it, which meant she did it often. Maybe this was to hide her affair with her monster husband for awhile, but this could also be because she was hiding her experiments and removing the morally questionable things she's done, because she said all knowledge is good knowledge, but hasn't said anything about the way that knowledge is acquired. She's manipulated Moon into mind wiping the guy, and tried to convince star to ignore the rules. I mean, a lot of her actions could seem calculated if you look at it with the intention of seeing her as manipulative. I mean, maybe her magic isn't evil, it's probably just something that requires a lot of self-control and extremely logical movements, I mean, her interaction with young moon seemed to me like she was some kind of monkey's paw character. She also knew how to get glossaryck to sleep which meant she could have made him sleep when she was doing something questionable, she could have been straight up lying to moon about not knowing how to do magic without a wand to keep cards hidden, lots of shit. But one thing we cannot say is questionable is her running away to be with her adorable monster husband.
0:54 The rule is simple...
YOU LAUGH
YOU LOSE
2:12,eclipsa face was like “aagh,not him again “ it’s ok,I don’t like him when I first saw eclipsa ex husband
Quân Dương No shit
Quân Dương he even snopped in and read all her entries in the magic book of spells
Rhombulus: DID YOU EAT THOSE BABIES?!
Eclipsa: *confused* What?
Hekapoo: *sighs* Bobipsa was the baby eater, not Eclipsa.
Rhombulus: Oh, right. I wanna take my question back!
Box of Truth: There are no take backs in Trial by Box!
Now I want fan art of moon's bachelorette party with the box
Awww Romulus has a crush
2:22 No Eclipsa I couldn't.
He cute.
Rhombulus is too cute to be a villain!! Along with the rest of the MHC...which is surely not too good either
But I still think Eclipsa has some plans (like she said in Stranger Danger)...and I still love her!!
Xearl Martian20147 They're not exactly antagonists but they are in the wrong for being part of a huge conspiracy
I think at least Rhombulus was dragged into this. He seems the most childlike and was the first one to tell the truth. What the MHC did was wrong, but I think Rhombulus can be forgiven for not fully understanding what he was doing and having to do what the rest of the council said.
Hindsight is 20/20 since Rhombulus ended up being so hateworthy in the final season 😡
Ok but I just realized how actually creepy it is that Rhombulus has a crush on moon, considering the fact he literally watched her grow her since she was a baby..
Do you have s crush on Marco Diaz?
Hekapoo: *blushes* Umm no ughh why are you asking me this?!
If only it happened
OneEyeGhoul The they all died
Why? Hekapoo is so much older than Marco
Box of truth
“ we need to talk”
“Alright ladies are you ready for”
“PREPARE FOR JUDGMENT !!!” 😂
I was waiting you to upload this :)
wö wlög There is more coming.
Eclipsa: *breaths*
Hekapoo: *Pure EVIL*
That dude from Dragonball Z is that Truth or Punishment box!
"The box is not a game"
Has party setting
Bringing in the box was a really nice call back honestly
If the show was continuing, we would go back to the first queen especially the infinity queen
I felt we start and end with her
This show will never continue
Though technically that wasn't the first one.
Since in her chapter we learn the book was destroyed in a fire when she was a princess, and her mother had the wand before.
Anyone think the whole "Rhombulus has a crush on Moon" has aged kinda poorly? If you think about it he's known her since she was a teen. He's watched her mature into an adult and, while I know it definitely wasn't intentional to make that come off as creepy, the writing really didn't age well here.
I just noticed eclipsa's markings glow when she blushes
Gonna agree with Heckapoo on the second one.
Don't just run off with someone else if you don't love your current. Be an adult and have the hard talk.
Edit: Yes, I know he's a bad person.
But unless there's genuine fear of them, cheating isn't okay.
She's a queen in a political marriage, and that needs to be taken into account, even if she's unhappy, that's part of political alliances.
Even if you don't take the political stance, she can still scrub the marriage before running off. She had that power.
Considering he threw a child away without a second thought, something tells me he wasn't a good person. I agree with what you said, but considering the hypocrisy we were shown I wouldn't be surprised if she had good reason to run from him.
As royalty, “the hard talk” isn’t all it takes lol
King Shastikan (sc) was a shithead. You have no obligation to a spouse with morals that would disturb any regular human, and Eclipsa bears no fault in the matter imo.
@@kyuubifox33 literally like it was probably an arranged marriage
@@disillusioned6155 I just now realized the King's name sounds a lot like Swastika
Eclipsa deserved so much better to be honest, and she's also my favorite character.
I saw we keep eclipsa. The spellbook was destroyed but she can re-write the chapter with the most powerful magic. That's gotta worth something
Zero I like how she did say she wrote some evil spells propaly for emergency cases But than decide to only let the harmlos ones Inside Herr chapter
Can we get an episode with the box on Bachelorette setting?
2:13 no wonder why she left him, he looks.....what was the word?
Glitter Star Shitty
Heliogenesis umm...anything but isn't a bad word, pls?
Glitter Star Glamorous?
Heliogenesis ew, no. I think its....snooty looking. I don't judge their inside by only looking at the outside
Usally an excledingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe?
"we need to talk"
For some reason, that got me burst out laughing 🤣
The fact that it has an Intervention and a Bachelorette (which means Young Unmarried Women) setting is sus
I love the genuine confusion from eclipses at the baby question 😂
I dont get why Eclipsa being in love with globgor is a crime but tom's parents are ok? Tom even sais he is half mewman half monster so his mom is a monster and ok maby she is monster royalty but so is globgor, some one pleas explain because I am very confused
Hypocrisy or the change of history
I think the difference is that Tom is from Underworld (that is another dimension, I guess), so people of his dimension are different than that of Mewni, Mewni is placed on another planet that has its own race of Monsters.
To be fair, It was never actually clarified in the show, but that's what I gather will all the portals and all.
Well this explains why Rombulus was all too willing to help Moon de-crystallize Eclipsa in the backstory XD
1:41 so if the box can provide a holographic depiction of the book of spells, does that mean the entire book can be rewritten?
Eclipsa’s chapter wasn’t even evil fr. Most of it consisted of her dating life, globgor, her mother, and most of the spells we’ve seen in the show.
Why does Eclipsa sound so familiar to me? Does anyone on TH-cam know any other notable role her voice actress performed? Please let me know. Thank you very much.
she was on Game of Thrones
Esme Bianco.
Box: Who do you have a crush on?
Rhombulus: Ah eh QUEEN MOON
everyone's thought: *DAYUM*
2:10 wowowow.......wow 😰
2:16 awwwwww 😍
Rhombulus have a crash for moon😂😂😅
Is someone gonna acknowledge that the king at the time replaced meteora & Eclipsa ran away so she wouldn't be in power to say no. So if the king Is in power he declares who the next heir is. So technically but not biologically Star is royalty.
0:37 Who do you have a crush on?
Queen moon!
1:54 Bill Cipher reference
Are we ignoring the fact that the box is voiced by Goku?
That's Sean Schemmel.
I thought Eclipsa said “I did have the occasional teenager” 🤣😂
cant get over how much shaun looks like the happy tree friend guy
Wait, if the box isn't a game, then why does it have a party setting?
They put a setting for anything that needs truth
Probably for planning too if needed for more of a casual disguise ig-
2:16 WE CAN’T BLAME HER. Look at him! Them teeth, them muscles, those eyes (Lowkey the tapestry and the hologram did not do him justice and painted him as a monster). Who would not want to elope with a handsome man monster like this. I def would!
the way Moon backstabed Eclipsa at the end just...
I like that she's not ashamed of her eloping with her second husband
"Didnt eat babies"
*Checks Evil*
0:37 omg lol 😆 😂
Just noticed the box of truth sounds like fizzarolli
yea
Why would he just shout out “QuEeN mOoN!”
1:53 honesty 2:15 honest to the heart 2:48 highly questionable
Rhombulus is so me, I always felt bad for him until he got evil or smt
I am REALLY intrigued by the Batchelorette setting on the box. "ALRIGHT LADIES!"
Just a reminder that he’s known moon since she was born. That’s a little weird mate
Is the MHC not monsters, too? Hekapoo seems to be a demon and Rhombulous is literally a crystal with snakes for hands
No no no no. They're on the high commission