I kept saying Offensively Bam is not a 4 that's why Spo didn't want to play him there. He was non aggressive and missing shots before so I don't know why people expects that to change just because Ware is in there.
I never thought Bam was a 4. I’ve always said he’s a 3. A 3 can be a defensive specialist that sets up teammates. Bam does what 3s do. Guard the perimeter, makes plays and defends. Your 4 and 5 have to be able to score on opposing 4s and 5s. Bam can’t do that.
Im not freaking out as bad as Alex about how Bam + Ware struggled with offensive spacing. They have only played like 80 minutes together all season (that’s Spoelstra’s fault) But I’m willing to give them time to work it out and figure out each other’s game.
Alex, what are you talking about? He’s about to be making $50M. What do you mean shots aren’t coming easy for him? Jimmy had the same issues and he found a way to be effective. Now Bam has to figure it out. They paid him. No more excuses. If he can’t play with this team, trade him. That simple.
Jimmy was an all star level scorer for 3 nba teams before the Heat. Bam has never been a big scorer in his life other than HS. He’s one of the 5 best defensive players in the league who can average 16-20. Max player
@@alexandertoledo9293 but he can’t average 16-20pts anymore. If he could we wouldn’t be having these conversations about Bam having a terrible season. Problem is, this isn’t going to be just this season. With Ware being their new star center… this is what Bam is… the new UD
@@alexandertoledo9293 all of that goes out the window when you give him a super max contract. He needs to be averaging somewhere between 28/13/5 on nightly basis. He doesn’t even try on offense and he averages like 17 points. Manufacturing another 11 points at the free throw line is feasible. Bigger centers can’t guard him if he went at them and smaller centers… wait, there is no smaller center 😭
The root of all issues is Spo. Everybody is lost on offense and defense and somehow we'd rather blame it on 14 players than on the guy that plans the games?
The roster is pretty bad both offensively and defensively. They only have 1 dimension players. Bam, Duncan, Herro, Rozier, etc all play on one side of the ball, and none of them are elite at it. It's a big big talent deficit every game and it's because of the roster construction as well. Definitely don't like Spos rotations but idk that any other coach would be doing more with this roster.
Play Burks, Highsmith and Johnson a ton more. More Nikola too. Love the young guys who guard people. Can't get too much Ware, needs 32 to 35 minutes a game. I like Kelel's on court attitude; not intimidated and ready to explore his skills and see how he measures up to many great NBA players. Keshad Johnson is a stout and intense defender and Highsmith has defensive skills too. I want both to get 15 to 18 minutes a game. Build the Hero Warehouse NOW
Nickol needs the ball more, he can grow into a great assist guy. Yes Niko and Kelel together more and more. Keshad has an nba NBA body a real man. Right, the Jimmy thing did usher in Ware-time.
It's hilarious.Watching everybody melt down over this loss, when I could remember last year and the year before that, Miami, getting blown out first is the same team and the game getting Outsourced, so nobody had to watch the end of it. It's a tradition the heat being blown out by milwaukee on national tv.
Not that it matters much, but Spo’s rotations are annoying me. Jovic and Ware off the bench was great for both of those guys. I get you wanna start Ware now, and you should, but he can’t sit for Jovic on the first sub. Jovic needs weapons around him and the best one is Ware. Bam isn’t a weapon, and Rozier damn sure isn’t. This team needs to be rebuilt around a Jovic, Ware, Tyler 3 man game. You need to put 2 more athletes that can defend and shoot 3s with them. Trade Bam for Keegan Murray or something like that. It’s time to be thoughtful about the good stuff that we have instead of trying to push through with Bam. He’s a bad contract at $35 million, never mind what he will be at $55 million. You also need to get a crack at Cooper Flagg. Even if you don’t get him, you can get another rookie from a stacked draft class to add to the young talent on this team. Better to draft now than further down the road, where said rookie will be further away from the Jovic-Ware timeline.
These guys keep saying things like, "we thought Bam would be that guy" to do this and that. Only you guys did, us fans have been saying not to pay Bam a max for years.
Look at yall. Regretting the way the Heat treating Jimmy 😂 I see a lot of Heat fans in multiple comments in multiple videos saying keep Jimmy and trade Bam now. Hilarious.
@@SRT_DRE not delusional but realistic the way Jimmy has been behaving in games is not acceptable for the fans and his teammates. I get it he has his reason to want to get traded and has his difference with the FO. But he’s under contract and should act right when he’s on the team playing. You don’t get paid to do fiasco. If you think you at your job this shit going to slide that’s you being delusional. Love Jimmy but this has gone to far !
I love the excuse that Bam isn't getting easy shots because of his guards but when you watch the game its Bam missing bunnies over and over, Bam is a guy that used all his VC but still sucks at the game. this is the player that Bam wanted to turn into, Bam BEGGED SPO to let him shoot 3s, ALL he did was work on jumpshots in those offseason videos. BAM is regressing in our faces and we have to hear ppl like Alex try to gaslight us into thinking that's not what's going on, it went from No Ceilings BAM to HE'S NOT GETTING EASY LOOKS... its only downhill from here with him, he'll never make another all-star or defensive team with the young bigs that are coming up.
Jovic had a worse stat line than Rozier. Just a bad performance by the team. Bucks had barely got off the plane before the game. That should have been advantage Heat.
Bam needs to be traded. He's part of the build that ran its course, his age doesn't fit with the kids. The moment the kids are ready he will be too old.
Why is Spo such a COWARD with his challenges?! If memory serves, I think there were at least 2 very winnable calls he could have challenged in the first half. Why does he do this?
This is what you'll get against the Good Teams with Tyler Supposedly leading the Heat.... Going Nowhere if he's the Lead Guy... Empty Stats ‼️ Ps this team is the Blazers, without Jimmy. They would have 16 wins in the West
Hey helicopter Alex!!! 😂 you’re getting emotional...this is completely unprofessional by Jimbo the clown. Also no one..not even the Great Pat would’ve seen this before those post game comments after last season. . Jimbo wanting out, Bam regressed, Triple J regressed , Rozier still regressed. All these guys were projected to take another leap this season. That was the forecast. It all went south at the same time. No organization could survive this. So a little perspective here.
@ every team we play have a basic offense. We don’t. We can dribble drive nor play in the post. What has kept us afloat is having a lot of superstars to hide Spo lack of offensive coaching.
The Heat are going to have to make a hard decision with respect to Bam. Paying the man 55 mil a year for 12 and 10 can't happen. Bam has value now, he may not have it next year. The Heat made a big mistake by holding on to Jimmy too long. If they do the same with Bam this could cripple the Heat for the next 6 years. I'm tired of unwatchable small ball from overpaid role players.
This team is nowhere…. JJJ and Jovic may never be rotation players on a good team, certainly not front line starters. Herro can score when the game flows for him but can’t control games with his offense like a true #1. Bam is a great role player but has no offensive moves and having a terrible season. Jimmy gone…. Ware has nice potential as a good role player. Rozier is terrible…. I have finally come around to the tear-down rebuild…
Bam has proven, he Steps Up, on Real Playoff Runs... Not just the Bubble.... Ware is improving, but let's see him in the Real Playoffs, we've seen Bam ‼️
When has Bam stepped up in the playoffs? The ONLY time I remember him playing to his potential was in the Denver series, but that was after being a ghost in the previous 3 series. He doesn’t have that luxury without Jimmy carrying them in the playoffs anymore.
As much as he’s oissing me off without Bam the Heat don’t reach 2 finals during the Jimmy years you know that. The block on Tatum? The big win in Boston? He’s had his moments
Ware literally doubled Bam in points last game🫣 for the contract this cannot be. Defensive dirty work guys are not max players. He needs to get in the lab asap.
You guys seem to think that Bam was so much better 3 years ago, but he wasn't. Don't you remember everyone was begging him to just be more aggressive, take more shots. He has always been so far into his own head, and he has no confidence as an offensive basketball player. He has no handle. He always brings the ball down for guards to take the ball from him and strip him continuously. He is the most pathetic and offensively challenged pro basketball player I've ever seen. He has learned nothing on the offensive side of the ball in 7 years! If you can get something for him for god sakes trade him. I can't stand to watch this any longer. Be honest about this, he has no basketball IQ and has lost all confidence in himself. Package him with Jimmy, if you can, and start over. Get some basketball players that can score, that have some basketball skill. This team has hard workers with low body fat, but no basketball scoring ability. It's not fun to watch any longer and they can't possibly win if they can't score. 🫣
bam need to give some of that money back
Facts. Next extension no max bs. But get the man paid thou
Tyler and Duncan are getting killed on the perimeter lol
Trade Duncan. He’s cool but it’s not what the team really needs. Need a defensive pg that can hit open 3s.
I kept saying Offensively Bam is not a 4 that's why Spo didn't want to play him there. He was non aggressive and missing shots before so I don't know why people expects that to change just because Ware is in there.
Everyone who knows basketball knows Bam can't play 4.
I never thought Bam was a 4. I’ve always said he’s a 3. A 3 can be a defensive specialist that sets up teammates. Bam does what 3s do. Guard the perimeter, makes plays and defends. Your 4 and 5 have to be able to score on opposing 4s and 5s. Bam can’t do that.
@@hamsterbrigadeI’m 7 years telling all they developed Bam in the wrong way.
35:57-38.00 “The Helicopter has arrived Alex” 😅
Jovic needs to bring the ball up, period. Bam needs to go while his value is still kinda high.
Im not freaking out as bad as Alex about how Bam + Ware struggled with offensive spacing. They have only played like 80 minutes together all season (that’s Spoelstra’s fault)
But I’m willing to give them time to work it out and figure out each other’s game.
dude alex upgrade your internet bro 😂
If that's the case bam also no longer fits in this build and should be traded imo
You know it’s bad when Ethan is in stitches 😂
THE NETS ARE GONNA SMOKE US, I'M SICK
Lol was it the Jaime Xmas game last year?
Alex, what are you talking about? He’s about to be making $50M. What do you mean shots aren’t coming easy for him? Jimmy had the same issues and he found a way to be effective. Now Bam has to figure it out. They paid him. No more excuses. If he can’t play with this team, trade him. That simple.
Jimmy was an all star level scorer for 3 nba teams before the Heat. Bam has never been a big scorer in his life other than HS. He’s one of the 5 best defensive players in the league who can average 16-20. Max player
@@alexandertoledo9293 but he can’t average 16-20pts anymore. If he could we wouldn’t be having these conversations about Bam having a terrible season. Problem is, this isn’t going to be just this season. With Ware being their new star center… this is what Bam is… the new UD
@@alexandertoledo9293 all of that goes out the window when you give him a super max contract. He needs to be averaging somewhere between 28/13/5 on nightly basis. He doesn’t even try on offense and he averages like 17 points. Manufacturing another 11 points at the free throw line is feasible. Bigger centers can’t guard him if he went at them and smaller centers… wait, there is no smaller center 😭
The root of all issues is Spo. Everybody is lost on offense and defense and somehow we'd rather blame it on 14 players than on the guy that plans the games?
The roster is pretty bad both offensively and defensively. They only have 1 dimension players. Bam, Duncan, Herro, Rozier, etc all play on one side of the ball, and none of them are elite at it. It's a big big talent deficit every game and it's because of the roster construction as well. Definitely don't like Spos rotations but idk that any other coach would be doing more with this roster.
Alex going in this episode lol
Man I called it at the beginning of the season I said Ware will be a much better player and give you more production than bam if Spo gave him min
Bam has to develop a consistent mid-range shot
Play Burks, Highsmith and Johnson a ton more. More Nikola too. Love the young guys who guard people. Can't get too much Ware, needs 32 to 35 minutes a game. I like Kelel's on court attitude; not intimidated and ready to explore his skills and see how he measures up to many great NBA players. Keshad Johnson is a stout and intense defender and Highsmith has defensive skills too. I want both to get 15 to 18 minutes a game. Build the Hero Warehouse NOW
Alex 💪🏿
Nickol needs the ball more, he can grow into a great assist guy. Yes Niko and Kelel together more and more. Keshad has an nba NBA body a real man. Right, the Jimmy thing did usher in Ware-time.
What a f...ng nightmare!!!
It's time to trade Bam for good picks. Let's stop fooling ourselves with this man. Time to rebuild.
This is moot because the Heat aren't trading Bam.
Who is trading for a 53 million+ a year undersized center. A 4 who can't shoot is one of the least valuable players in basketball.
@hamsterbrigade 🤦🏾♂️
Bam ain't in Terry Rozier territory. They just need to change the roster around a bit and start fresh with him next year.
Bam to the Kings is interesting. Something like Sabonis, Keegan, Carter & a bunch of picks would reset the Heat nicely
It's hilarious.Watching everybody melt down over this loss, when I could remember last year and the year before that, Miami, getting blown out first is the same team and the game getting
Outsourced, so nobody had to watch the end of it. It's a tradition the heat being blown out by milwaukee on national tv.
All empires fall. At least we're not the Hornets, who have never made it past the second round.
Let's not blame Ware for Bam's offense. Before Ware took on this role Bam was on it and was not producing 75% of what Ware is.
Max or Alex Headroom 🤘
Brady knows ball man, definitely need Niko distributing the basketball with Ware on the floor. Tyler is not a point guard fellas!
It's Bam time to get the blame 😂😂, when is Pat gonna give up on JJJ, Larsson and Jovic
VanGundy called Spo out, our offense is trash! Bam should never shoot 3’s, he should be getting to the cup.
Hopefully he will man up! Improve his game he already got his extension and being captain of the team per say no more Jimmy…
Not that it matters much, but Spo’s rotations are annoying me.
Jovic and Ware off the bench was great for both of those guys. I get you wanna start Ware now, and you should, but he can’t sit for Jovic on the first sub. Jovic needs weapons around him and the best one is Ware. Bam isn’t a weapon, and Rozier damn sure isn’t.
This team needs to be rebuilt around a Jovic, Ware, Tyler 3 man game. You need to put 2 more athletes that can defend and shoot 3s with them.
Trade Bam for Keegan Murray or something like that. It’s time to be thoughtful about the good stuff that we have instead of trying to push through with Bam. He’s a bad contract at $35 million, never mind what he will be at $55 million.
You also need to get a crack at Cooper Flagg. Even if you don’t get him, you can get another rookie from a stacked draft class to add to the young talent on this team. Better to draft now than further down the road, where said rookie will be further away from the Jovic-Ware timeline.
These guys keep saying things like, "we thought Bam would be that guy" to do this and that. Only you guys did, us fans have been saying not to pay Bam a max for years.
Look at yall. Regretting the way the Heat treating Jimmy 😂 I see a lot of Heat fans in multiple comments in multiple videos saying keep Jimmy and trade Bam now. Hilarious.
Nah trade Jimmy he has done enough fiasco here !
@ still a delusional Heat fan I see.
@@SRT_DRE not delusional but realistic the way Jimmy has been behaving in games is not acceptable for the fans and his teammates. I get it he has his reason to want to get traded and has his difference with the FO.
But he’s under contract and should act right when he’s on the team playing. You don’t get paid to do fiasco.
If you think you at your job this shit going to slide that’s you being delusional.
Love Jimmy but this has gone to far !
I love the excuse that Bam isn't getting easy shots because of his guards but when you watch the game its Bam missing bunnies over and over, Bam is a guy that used all his VC but still sucks at the game. this is the player that Bam wanted to turn into, Bam BEGGED SPO to let him shoot 3s, ALL he did was work on jumpshots in those offseason videos.
BAM is regressing in our faces and we have to hear ppl like Alex try to gaslight us into thinking that's not what's going on, it went from No Ceilings BAM to HE'S NOT GETTING EASY LOOKS... its only downhill from here with him, he'll never make another all-star or defensive team with the young bigs that are coming up.
Adebayo has been bad all season. Ware has been playing for 3, 4 games. And ‘roaming’ Bam has had 0 blocks 0 steals in the past 2 games with Ware.
Riley may trade Bam, with the return he can bring back. He’s not playing like a max player, Daniel Gafford has been better lol
Jovic had a worse stat line than Rozier. Just a bad performance by the team. Bucks had barely got off the plane before the game. That should have been advantage Heat.
Bam is soft
Riley may trade Bam, with the return he can bring back. He’s not playing like a max player, Daniel Gafford has been better
Trade bam please
Lets just tank and sell, the team needs to draft another Wade.
Isn't that what this is?
Bam needs to be traded. He's part of the build that ran its course, his age doesn't fit with the kids. The moment the kids are ready he will be too old.
Bam is 27. I get that’s he’s been playing like 💩this season but you gonna need him to bring some of his buddies pretty soon
@ i would be ok with that,, but the main issue with the Jimmy build were injuries and timelines... let's not repeat the same mistakes.
Why is Spo such a COWARD with his challenges?! If memory serves, I think there were at least 2 very winnable calls he could have challenged in the first half. Why does he do this?
I'd get rid of Jovic, Bam and Rozier before the deadline.
Haywood is a better 3pt shooter than Larsson and Terry. So idk why he isn’t playing.
Agreed.. he could be part of a potential trade package..
This is what you'll get against the Good Teams with Tyler Supposedly leading the Heat.... Going Nowhere if he's the Lead Guy... Empty Stats ‼️ Ps this team is the Blazers, without Jimmy. They would have 16 wins in the West
Tyler is far from the blame when he’s the reason for most of our wins. He took the reins because Bam and Jimmy weren’t doing it.
Hey helicopter Alex!!! 😂 you’re getting emotional...this is completely unprofessional by Jimbo the clown. Also no one..not even the Great Pat would’ve seen this before those post game comments after last season. . Jimbo wanting out, Bam regressed, Triple J regressed , Rozier still regressed. All these guys were projected to take another leap this season. That was the forecast. It all went south at the same time. No organization could survive this. So a little perspective here.
He can't get any thing off the dribble, really, what does Jimmy do , he is the max player now ,
Spo can’t coach a offense. Without a star Miami offense sucks
Which offense is good without a star?
@ every team we play have a basic offense. We don’t. We can dribble drive nor play in the post. What has kept us afloat is having a lot of superstars to hide Spo lack of offensive coaching.
The Heat are going to have to make a hard decision with respect to Bam. Paying the man 55 mil a year for 12 and 10 can't happen. Bam has value now, he may not have it next year. The Heat made a big mistake by holding on to Jimmy too long. If they do the same with Bam this could cripple the Heat for the next 6 years. I'm tired of unwatchable small ball from overpaid role players.
This team is nowhere…. JJJ and Jovic may never be rotation players on a good team, certainly not front line starters. Herro can score when the game flows for him but can’t control games with his offense like a true #1. Bam is a great role player but has no offensive moves and having a terrible season. Jimmy gone…. Ware has nice potential as a good role player. Rozier is terrible…. I have finally come around to the tear-down rebuild…
Can’t defend. Can’t rebound. Most importantly these bums can’t shoot. Just a bad team
Trade Bam for Jaylen Brown. The Celtics will go for it.
Bam has proven, he Steps Up, on Real Playoff Runs... Not just the Bubble.... Ware is improving, but let's see him in the Real Playoffs, we've seen Bam ‼️
lolz...the Bam stans stay strong. I've watch Butler carry Bam like a backpack during the post season. Real postseason runs..lol
When has Bam stepped up in the playoffs? The ONLY time I remember him playing to his potential was in the Denver series, but that was after being a ghost in the previous 3 series. He doesn’t have that luxury without Jimmy carrying them in the playoffs anymore.
As much as he’s oissing me off without Bam the Heat don’t reach 2 finals during the Jimmy years you know that. The block on Tatum? The big win in Boston? He’s had his moments
Ware literally doubled Bam in points last game🫣 for the contract this cannot be. Defensive dirty work guys are not max players. He needs to get in the lab asap.
You guys seem to think that Bam was so much better 3 years ago, but he wasn't. Don't you remember everyone was begging him to just be more aggressive, take more shots. He has always been so far into his own head, and he has no confidence as an offensive basketball player. He has no handle. He always brings the ball down for guards to take the ball from him and strip him continuously. He is the most pathetic and offensively challenged pro basketball player I've ever seen. He has learned nothing on the offensive side of the ball in 7 years! If you can get something for him for god sakes trade him. I can't stand to watch this any longer. Be honest about this, he has no basketball IQ and has lost all confidence in himself. Package him with Jimmy, if you can, and start over. Get some basketball players that can score, that have some basketball skill. This team has hard workers with low body fat, but no basketball scoring ability. It's not fun to watch any longer and they can't possibly win if they can't score. 🫣