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- WHY RAID? WHY.... | Raid: Shadow Legends
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I woke up this morning expecting some shady points nerf and was still surprised at how predatory it was. Brutal!
I was expecting nerf for only eternals, the worst option being 1 eternal=2500 and the rest being same as before 1 mortal = 100, 1 immortal= 1000. So I agree this nerf is really brutal.
@@akrumvatum1627 the nerf of champ training points is arguable worse.
@@matthewalessandri2394what was it in old ones
@@nashbutler I remember it matching up with event champ training, so 350pts for a rank up to rank 6. This event the rank up is only worth 200pts. I could be wrong but that’s what I remember.
@@matthewalessandri2394 yikes that’s awful
Raid is the only game I know of that has inflation on in-game resources. I think many people are getting closer and closer to the point of freeing up a lot of time in the day.
😂 facts
The energy system and silver system will be the death of this game and any game like it.
+1
Agreed
@gangstagummybear3432 that's just a drop in the bucket with all the awful business practices and things plarium does. They are a disgustingly predatory/greedy company and treat their players like garbage. I understand the energy concept, but I find it ridiculous that we pay silver to remove our own gear. That doesn't even make logical sense lol, like who is watching us take the gear off and charging us?
The deck of fate points nerf is an absolutely brutal move by plarium. f.u.c.k this.
you don’t need periods in between the word fuck, weirdo
Please get this game off of Google Play.. Plarium sucks.
My guess is the CEO thinks the game will die or they'll sell off Plarium soon, and they just wanna milk it to death instead of aiming for long-term investment metrics like player retention
That's true
Raid ain’t going nowhere soon it’s just pure greed lol
Plarium is, in fact, up for sale.
You're so wrong 😂. People have been saying this for years and saying the game is dying. Just because you cant afford something doesn't mean the next guy can't. Everyone's wallet isn't the same. Sadly events like this will continue and the game will continue to thrive. Yes one day it'll die, but today isn't that day.
I was wondering and how many accounts are being made to collect champs and are up for sale the numbers of active accounts isnt that accurate anymore.
Crazy to keep having to deal with ‘price gouging’ for pixels on the screen.
Yeh, pixels with no ownership rights or resale value....
@@jaroslawratajkowski3901 raid shutdowns boom there goes all your money
Imo it's like gambling , pulling shards , soulstones , dungeon running , are all gambles . The addiction is real .
I think someone high up at plarium is sabotaging them. He/she wakes up everyday and says “how can i make people quit today?”
Id bet it is a draco lizard
@@seffard Your probably closer to the truth than you think lol. They MUST know something we dont to be pushing it this far.
Love the Jgigs call out haha. You KNOW he's got something cooking for this!
“Plarium Employee’s plan Freya DOF”
I got her and had to use up all my collected stuff. It was brutal. The worst thing is that those fragments are not 4-5 cards and if you're lucky you get them early - but no, they fragmented the champ so much you are almost guaranteed to need to flip all the cards. That's not fun. And very predatory.
28 of 40 cards are Freya frags......its a joke
@@zachhaist642628?!?!
@@zachhaist6426 28 of 40. So, statistically.. most players are required to pull every card. Is this fun?
Isn't usually the whole concept of pulling cards is to try luck? no luck involved here.
Go spend money.. come back when you dun that.. we give you 100% freya.
Was going to pull souls for this, got 60+ immortals potentially and 200+mortals, 3 or 4 eternals, but the points are so screwed It's really not worth it for a champ like Freyja, who's certainly decent, but not game changing for me. Saving for the next boosted souls event is what I'm doing
and for those that is game changing, they cant afford it. they would have to be saving for months
I got her cause I'd been saving, and I want to fill my FG. Picked her up early on so was a no trainer for me to go all in and get a dupe
I'm in exactly this same position. I have the soulstones saved for this, but now it's such a bad investment, I won't be doing it.
Same here.
Same here. Way too expansive in Souls that would be basically wasted pulling now. People in my clan are pissed because nobody has that many souls but saved and expected shards.
Its enough, i think we should start boycotting more events. I was a spender, but the decrease in the value of different packs like the actual energy packs, is so frustrating.
It feels like Plarium tries to drain all my blood without giving anything back.
Yeah, I just dropped 8k energy and I have 10 cards flipped. I think I'm gonna head out now.
Making events randomly harder just because it is highly anticipated isn't just toxic, it's shady behavior from a casino company. The silver lining is that every single decision Plarium makes like this just makes me even more and more ready to COMPLETELY DROP Raid and go all in on Godforge!
Same
I'm already doing that %100. I stopped spending a couple of months ago. I have saved a lot of money and that feeling to need to spend gets less and less every day. BTW I was spending over $1000 every month like clockwork before. The energy thing is what did it for me. All this other shit is just CRAZY.
@@antonfidd3795 No offence but I hope you make a lot of money..... 1000$ a month is a lot for a mobile game. That's over 10AAA brand new games or a PS5 per month.
@@antonfidd3795that’s crazy
100% agree. Why do they want us to hate them? For me, Plarium is just shy of Monsanto and Blackrock.
Blackrock owns Plarium......
Forgive my Noob - what games are those companies known for ? Monsanto ? And black Rock?
@@pokeraddict88blackrock owns shares in tons of corporations and creative control over them as well
Monsanto is the devil. They are the inventors of GMO seeds and have destroyed agriculture, farmers, everything you can think of. They deserve the top spot on all hated company lists no matter what.
Thanks for the video - it feels good to see CC giving us a voice in this; it is really frustrating, ever since they announced, that there will be a deck of fate, I was saving and got really lucky [24 sacreds], I have tons of champion saved up for leveling, enough silver, tons of energy, all saved up - for nothing ...
Edit: As someone who likes mythology [and really likes Freyja] - this one hits hard ... I do not care how good or bad the champion is.
I feel you. Was super excited to get some Aesir action but it's been very a disheartening event
Why is it important to get a unit that's undoubtedly a poor representation of the mythological character?
Just go look at pictures online lm.faoooo
Usually for a deck of fate event, mortal soulstone = 100 points, immortal soulstone = 1000 points, eternal soulstone = 5000 points.
The champion training points have also been nerfed for about 30% across the board and on top of all that, the rewards can barely even be called rewards with how bad and few there are. This event is such an easy skip, freyja is not worth all that.
The Asgard event continues to disappoint.
Plarium sticking HARD to their motto: "Better than nothing, but not by much!". What a bunch of scumbags.
I mean, I think Plarium proved a long time ago that they do not care at all about how we feel about this type of moves...
I had to read it several times when I saw 3k for a large soulstone…..and then it’s still 1k for 1 card flip….
Same here 😂
What you poor? Raid is only for rich kids dude and old fat virgins
Yep. When I saw this, I boycotted this event and kept my Stones. Well done idiot Plarium.
When I saw the cost of 13 Eternal Soul Stones, I asked myself, "Why am I playing this game again?" Yeah, this is a good way to make people quit. I really really hope you can pass this on to Plarium. 13 is unreal. Not even a 2x and they took away the rarity pin bonus on card flipping. Unreal. (I spend money on the game too and still think this is absurd.)
I mean you could just not pull for this event, just sayin.....
@aelinstue9431 so basically, don't participate? Again?
@@aelinstue9431 Everyone already knows that is an option....obviously
@@Peter75Cyeah but at least make events accessible to f2p… seems like everything is P2W with insane prices.
I don't think I've even pulled 13 eternals since they released the soul system.
Man this deck of fate is worse than a diddy party, with how hard they are screwing us for points
HHHAHAAAAAAAA Well played sir. That caught me WAY off guard!
We all got diddied and it hurts
At least at Diddy's there's plenty of lube
Her shield probably will be nerfed a few months down the line 😂 edit probably she will be balanced as soon as someone will find Hydra use for op comps
Not to mention they are looking at shields due to Wixwell in Hydra. Wouldn't be surprised if her value drops.
Yes, her, Odin and Thor. But never Taras and Marichka!!! 😂😂😂😂
I think they do it on purpose the companys from a country that historicaly hates westeners. I wont spend on this game until they change this.
@@evgenianovikova3596 difference between Asgardians and them two is value in $$$$'s you will need to spend to get two of them when others well they are kind of grindable free to certain extent 😉
@@JamesWoodward-k5xWhat are you talking? What state who hates us?
Pulled Freya on Saturday from a single sacred birthday YOLO, very pleased with that 😊
*Mr. Krabs voice*
Money...money, money, money, money...
😂😂
Nothing like waking up monday with a slap in the face
More like a kick in the nuts and getting them both!
SURVEY*****
Press like if you feel quiting raid after playing for yrs
👇
As someone who would describe their account as like... Late Mid-game (I have a decent roster that I am working on leveling up to help me push through Doom Tower, Cursed City, and especially high level Dungeons), I simply tell myself that anything like this is well beyond my ability to get. I started around the time Deliana came out, and I've seen first hand how its gone from "oh, this looks doable for me" to "oh they want me to spend like eight months worth of resources for something"
I simply do not have enough efficiency in grinding to justify wasting my time with events. I think it actively detriments me to go after this sort of thing because it takes away from me doing what gets me real progress.
Exactly
They need an energy-free training dungeon for leveling up your champions
Deck of fates already felt like a pay to win event but now it 100% is.
I laughed out loud about the comment about giving JGigs a few more videos. So true, but i don't think he is hurting for content to talk about at the moment.
I had an idea. Spread the word! I think it would be cool if the added small campaigns (maybe 10-15 levels) that explore the background of some mythical champions. It should have actual cut scenes like in the campaign. Here is the fun part. In these small stories your leader for the fights is the mythical champion that the story is about. You cannot access them outside of their campaign if you do not have them, but this allows you to still be able to enjoy them in some way. (And also for Palarium's sake, it might get more people interested in buying primal shards) So it is a win-win for everyone. We get to play maybe 3-5 mythical champions in their respective campaigns, which would be 10-15, and Palarium gets more people interested in spending money. Share the idea if you agree. #Seven's Idea
Welllll...... I will not be pulling my souls for this. So glad I saw this video.
I 6 medium, 60 small soulstones. Not a lot, but not nbothing. I'd need to burn 4600 brews to do the champ training. It's an obscene amount. I can't even begin to approach this. Even if I wanted to spend I won't be offered enough packs to get me there.
I was thinking about pushing for her and completing DoF, even though I barely have half in stones now (or at least I thought so, I counted that with 100, 1000, 5000 values). Now, with even champ training points nerfed? Yeah, fuck off.. if she was game changer maybe, not gonna spend 30 hours next 4 days in 12-3 for "quite good" champion
I don't even have nearly enough energy for that
Freya is not worth it wasting soulstones outside of 2x guys, do not fall for the bait she isnt a limited champion that will never come back like Archer, she will be added to the summon pool!
Why? So I can wait 4 more years to pull her out of 700 legendaries? Nah those odds are worse
I made the decision to buy ressources for this one. But because of the way to score money, I dont want to anymore. I can see myself financing this kind of behaviour as a company. That's not who I am or want to be. Less money from me.
It's each target max HP, since it's ally buff, it will be your allies max HP not enemy? 3:52
They never miss an opportunity to cash in.
i have used 3500 lvl potions and pulled over 80 mortal soulstones and 8 eternal soulstones. ive upgraded 3 legos to 6 and a over 100 rares etc. i have 55 freyja shards...
Bravo HellHades for your honesty, it's good to have a voice that carries, or even THE voice that carries, who, like the majority of players, finds their way of doing things laborious. It doesn't take much for people to become morally detached from your game and then gradually abandon it...
Frankly, I'm disgusted with plarium and nothing they say will change my mind!
I thought about buying soul stones to complete the DoF until I saw the points nerf. Now Im just gonna grab a few Freyja frags to exchange for Maude chests.
Same
You're still asking after 4 years why plarium is toxic?😂😂😂
For real though.
Tbf he's making his own game as a massive "fuck you' to them. 😂
It's just content tbh 😂
Hey bro I was wondering if the optimizer was gear scoring pinpoint properly because I’ve had to do a million cleanses but I manually check the pinpoint accessories and artifacts but it’s just too much gear to keep doing. Anyway I was just wondering if there was gonna be an update to score pinpoint or if it does score it properly? Many thanks for the cleanse tool it’s such a life saver for me I will always pay for the optimizer just for the cleanse tool.
Yes Hell Hades, yes, they absolutely dont give a rats ass about how players "feel" -, it's all about the cash grab
Was going to pull for Freyja tomorrow. Paylarium can go jump with another massive greedy squeeze on the player base. The greedy are always blind to reality, and the reality is the player base are looking to head out the door. Great work Paylarium 👍
People have been saying this since the game released...
@@aBadWizard Yes, and they were overpriced then. Now it's just a milk machine for them. S tier greed.
Pulled mine today, non PR CvC means we have a 180k limit which I would have blown through with the sheer number of souls that were needed to pull.
The downgrading of points for DoF Champ Training is even more outrageous when you realize they start the ongoing fusion Champ Training immediately after the DoF ends. I am not trying to get Jeroboam but I want his frags to feed into Maud.
Just imagine if they did a champ training tournament with 1st place getting Freyja 5 star soul next week after all this. some people will be on suicide watch after all that champ training.
@@samuellee1515lmfao that’s exactly what happened with me and Odin 😂😂 I went all in for Odin and was kinda stressed babysitting my 1st place position, got him and was very happy. Then I think literally the week after that chase ended, they did another chase for his 5 ⭐️ soul. I ended up going all in for that as well and won his soul and he’s OP asf, but godamn…. My resources are in shambles… my account looking strong with everything I pulled though . It’s really 💩 how they strategize these events it’s literally designed to skewer your irl finances unless you are a 🐋
Hades kills me when he says "Absolute Trash!" lmao I love it lol
So on top of the point reduction they spread the shards out over 28 cards instead of 14 like previous DoF events. So spend 40% more resources and get half the rewards. What a toxic Paylarium thing to do.
which one is the video from last week? I need it as I am really short on souls, so I guess I'll be relying on champion points. Could use a few tricks if there are
HH, Ash, Nub are like mob wives. They pretend to be surprised by the villiany while reaping the rewards.
Plarium allowed them to build up this event for 6 weeks, all while knowing we were getting bad info. They said shards, we get soulstones and training. And now they want to act like they are not complicit. But imo, they are, because this is the 300th time they act like they didn't see it coming.
Terrible. 😢
Aside fromaybe Thor in Hydra, none of these 4 have been worth any effort towards helping my account. I've spent so much energy farming Minotaur and its been totally worth skipping any of their events.
Do u have Odin? He’s insanely good ngl I got his 5⭐️ soul from the chase and his a3 nukes spider so hard
@shroud4269 No sir, I don't have anyone from the Asgard divide except Loki. I haven't leveled him up, though. As good as Odin and Thor are, they wouldn't have had much effect on my account. I got super lucky to pull a 2nd Gnut a few months ago, making Spider Hard a breeze.
Remember when Plarium mentioned monetizing Raid last year? This is it. They want you to purchase the packs, and champ training is just meant to create the illusion that it's achievable without them.
Does she counterattack with the A1 if a shield from bloodshield is removed? Which the A1 then reapplies?
I so can't wait for Jgigs video to drop. You know its gonna be friggin hilarious 😂
They even removed the new "pin" feature to get three of a kind when flipping cards
I’m just waiting for Godforge to launch and then I’m gonna give Plarium the big middle finger
Same
I put on my “They Live” sunglasses and saw that this is a Maud event not a Freyja event.
Yes, draco lizards rejoice in this game
I think that they are either stealth adjusting bosses' difficulty, or have implemented in some type of skill-based system into the game that scales depending on how advanced your battle and gearing strategies get. I came to this conclusion when I saw that at one point before, when my team was a lot weaker I was getting 10 to 12 million on nightmare demon lord, now after throwing more tomes, more blessing levels and blessings, more glyphs, and more 6 star level 60 champions also more powerful gear, and somehow now im only getting around 7 million damage on clan boss per battle.
The same thing has happened with iron twins, sand devil and phantom shogun, I can't consistently beat iron twins at any of the top 3 or 4 levels I've beaten, there's some bs going on in these updates probably stealth updates also that you don't see.
Thank you so much for saying this, honestly!!!! I can't wait for Godforge.. this game is really toxic.. even when you try to be frugal, they just stab players in the back.
It's so nice to hear Leading CC call plarium out for this
Just pair her with wixwell or brogni and watch Plarium nerf her in 3 days
Is Freya now considered free to play? 🤔
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
problem is the game is good enough that they know they will never lose enough players to hurt them. unless we all come together
Just quit. This game is repetitive pay to win garbage. The "quests" are like...click here 20,000 times. Really? That's fun?
Plarium is doing such a shitty job. At this point they are not even trying to focus on player retention or they do not view it as a concern to be addressed. They need to understand that, without HH Optimizer/ RSL helper, they are losing at least 80% of their players. These are community driven effort and are keeping the game alive. While we are keeping their game and source of revenue alive, why do they want to screw us up over and over again? It's like they are enjoying the "aha, gotcha!" gotcha moment. I can't comprehend.
I feel like it’s been a long time since we’ve had a real hell rant, and you used to be the best of those LMAO, obviously someone has to be the super professional TH-camr, but the rants are always appreciated
"Everything above a 4-star is epic!"
*gets a 5 star Maulie (amongst others)
"Rubbish"
Okay....
inflation in real life.. but this game scales inflation faster.
anyone who has the resources to actually get Freya...please be aware she is sitting in my vault and don't anticipate building her anytime soon. Her passive won't be meta in PVP anytime soon and she brings nothing to speed up dungeons. If you are pushing hundreds of millions in Hydra she brings practically nothing....staying alive is not that hard if you have end game dps.
i thought i had a chance been prepping and got the gems and energy. NIOPE!!!!
Raid knows that even if most are mad, they are still going for her. Perhaps Raid thinks the game is highly addictive.
Where's the link to last week's video?
Plarium likes to shoot themselves in the foot. Unrelated to that: Freyja's shield is based on each ALLIES' MAX HP, not enemy max hp
DONT PULL YOUR SOULS DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM PLAYARIUM
this is the kind of event we need godforge to come out and show them how its done and make raid shape up and stop the toxicity.
I figured all along they were gonna do soulstones, so I didnt pull any during the last 2x. Was still on the fence whether or not i should pull, thanks for making it easy paylarium! Literally out of their minds if they think thats fair pricing lol. also, lately have been feeling the power creep in the game, Ive spent over 8k over the lifetime of my account of 4 years, and still dont have a mythical yet. Gold 3 TTA getting harder and harder over time, and im still progressing my gear quality but the champion kits are just getting too ridiculous. Odin has seriously made me consider uninstalling more than anything else I've ever faced. Its really been reaching the point now where I ask myself why I even bother playing the game anymore.
What’s wrong with Odin? I have him and his 5 star soul and he’s insanely good
@@shroud4269 no further questions your honor, I rest my case.
We also know that u will have to pull every card to get her just like all the DOF events. They pretend like it's random pulls and I can get lucky and get her without pulling them all but it's never happened in the history of DOF events. So we know it's BS!
Quitting Raid was the best gaming decision I've ever made.
As for why I'm here, I played the game for years. I am still invested in its success. I want it to succeed. Stuff like this hurts me and the friends I have that still play.
I’d love that 6* Gharrol 😂 also nobody is talking about how quietly the mythic soul pulls just decreased.
So glad I pulled her while pulling for the Odin champion chase, this deck of fate is brutal
Does his optimazer cost money?
As a starter player i pulled her when she was with 10% chance to get from shards. I cannot describe how well she pushed my dungeons / guild boss progress. she is a fantastic one !! hands down !
At that point they could have just put her on a paid champion pass. God I wish this company the worst, they are more greedy than ever
I have 2 copies of Freyja and wondering if i should fuse them together?
probably not
@@cryptfire3158ok.
I do have all 4 Asgardians now. Maybe use 2 of her in clan boss?
I accidentally imploded my clan last night. It literally doesn't exist anymore, and I wasn't even the leader 😂
Points are nerfed as hell, no points for artifact or shards.... Hard sell, even if I'm going for anyway.
I dont want to think about how low the points for shards would have been....
@@stoapfalzrunden4150 proabably a 30% cut
@@stoapfalzrunden4150 yeah. But would help to have more ways to get low points on the mix. I don’t get what they are trying to achieve pissing everyone off this last month.
Quit bitching if you're still going for it 😂😂
@@aBadWizard Never!!!!! I only have one job here in the comments…. You can’t take that away from me. 😂😂😂😂
It was extremely obvious that this event would be for souls. But the fact that they will cut off the number of points for souls... This is something new
Plarium is in Tel Aviv, where they drop bombs on their neighbors. I don't think they care what they do to spenders in a mobile game.
I did it today because we don't want to score a lot during CvC this time
i was saving soulstones for at least a month. also got a couple of eternal from tournaments. i could've sworn that morat was 100, immortal was 1500, and eternal
was 7500(?) in past events.
i pulled the eternals and sold the ones i knew i wasn't going to use to get more immortals.. no way i'd be able to do this without them.
did pull a 6* Armanz.
The last video I saw was 100,1000,5000
I've played for at least 2 to 2 and 1/2 years, spent for a bit. The Monster Hunter events, especially for Archer and the other guy with protected buffs (forget his name), made me quit spending and I have never regretted it.
It's sad that this kind of greedy move by Plarium has become the norm and the thing is they'll keep doing it because the big spenders don't care and will keep spending.
I am personally sick of it... as much as I love Raid, I hate Plarium. I'm more than ready to quit Raid, I just need one thing
FIRE UP GODFORGE!
was so depressing, I have been saving shards for the last 3 weeks for this event... then it's soulstones and a lowered set of champ training
I wonder if Plarium is outright stupid or what? Seriously. Truly appreciate for calling them out on this Hades. Let’s see if they respond.
For me the most disgusting thing is, that Freyja fragments are in 28 cards and the other rewards are...ok-ish for the price. Also the reason why they did price increase is that when you flip 3 epic cards, you might get Sacred 🙃
HH: PSA - change your wishlist - you got the 6* Whisper. That is all. 😁
If anyone from plarium/raid player feedback team readin these comments...
Please put +1 to the group who says "f u plarium for squeezing us, u endlessly greedy bunch of bastardos".
I am not openin a single deck. If u want change advise u to do the same.
Thank u, good day...
40% reduction - I am a low/mid spender who has missed 2 days of play in 3.5 years. After the shenanigans from the Asgardian events, including this soulstone event, I am actively pursuing something else. I am done with spending at all at this point because there is simply no discernable regard for the low/mid spender player base. (I don't expect it to be free and a company needs to conduct business, but...just wow...)
Funny... I started some leveling of food and then checked my point and thought to myself... wow that's low. I guess I won't be going for Freya, but more importantly, I'm getting tired of Raid.
Hades as we are getting close to God Forge release Raid is getting worst and worst, and you are not helping them at all. I LOVE IT !
I rarely comment on things but the point system just proves I need fateless immediately. As long as y'all don't forget your roots the game will last forever.
i completely stopped spending in this game. i dont think the player base understands they got control over this. if Plarium not making enough money due to players (including whales) agreeing to Not spend a dime for 6months i guarantee we'll all start seeing them Listen to us. we keep using terms like 'gaming community' but even in that we still have no real unity.
I earned 5K before CvC with training, 15k from soul stones when CvC started. then by selling the souls I couldn't use, I made the other 20k, and was able to flip every card.
Started with 68/16/1 soul stones.
So Plarium did the dirty on us on getting this champ, community was in uproar as we know, for me, I've not got resources to go for her, I'm not doing the fusion so I'm not now spending anymore, I'm an average spender when I see something which is beneficial and cheap I normally get it. But I'm now planning to save everything from now until December where I hope Plarium will launch a special champ or a festive type champ like they have done in the past, who knows it maybe a nice one
Which video do you mean re lvling champs?