Really looking forward to you playing The Black Parade campaign! Watching you and Marbleman Ghost/Supreme missions is my favorite type of FM playthroughs
Since you rarely do supreme ghost for dark mod, it makes me excited when I see a new video. I am enjoying every bit of it, and I will be waiting for TBP like everyone else.
After MandaloreGaming review I’m pretty hyped for the Black Parade. Tried a few others but their playstyle are so messy. I’ll wait for your videos instead.
Thanks, that actually means a lot. I watched a few minutes of some other let's plays of TBP and I was wondering if people would even bother watching mine since there are already others out there. So I'm happy you say you enjoy my style, despite my videos being quite long.
@@klatre I watched some others, and the ones I found who posted day 1 were very colorful with language and otherwise made me very uninterested. I am so excited for your playthrough!
Great video, I certainly missed some stuff. That blue "keeper" you saw is from Mother Rose, a very short, Halloween-type FM by Grayman. This FM is naturally full of references and tributes to Grayman, the big one being the peaceful area with the sword in the stone (and the large painting in the gallery depicting the same,) which was sort of like his avatar. Also, unless it's a weird supreme rule I'm not aware of, I don't think you need to reload when you fall into the void because it doesn't kill you. If you fall, you are teleported to a nearby piece of solid ground-sometimes the fastest way to travel, too!
Thanks for all that info! Grayman seems like a very influential person for the community. Falling into the void felt a bit too much like dying for Supreme, although perhaps not directly against the rules.
It so good to see high quality TDM missions - for some silly reasons, I am too clusmy for TDM, so I can only resort to watch the master supreming them...
Hi @klatre, thank you for this great walkthrough! Since FMs like this are way too difficult for me to play, I have to resolve to watching playthroughs. As you said, there are quite a lot of people nowadays posting walks. BUT, most of them aren't really interesting to watch, they don't really know how to play thief and TDM. They KO everyone in sight, get half the loot at best, don't find secrets, and do weird commentaries which they think funny. So it boils down to DrLizShawOBE2, Vman339, Harm (all three sadly without commentary), Marbleman and you. Even if your playstyle is sometimes a little tedious to watch (10 or more retries to get a mantle right), I like your videos because of your superb commentary which sometimes even gives some inside information. I've seen every single upload of yours now. Thank you for all these great walks! But I'd like you to do more TDM content. There are some great new missions out there. And I'm very much looking forward to your TBP playthroughs!
You've watched every video? Wow, big thanks for your support! I don't like watching let's plays if there no commentary, but I quickly get annoyed if they have it but are unorganized, confusing, or try to be funny, or all of the above. Happy you enjoy the way I present the missions, cause I'm sure it's not for everyone. I actually prefer to have a smaller subscriber number, as it makes each comment more impactful and I can actually read and respond to most of them. And I know that most viewers are real fans of the game or the playstyle. I'd like to try more dark mod missions, but there is just so much Thief content I'd like to get to. All in due time, i'm not going anywhere.
I just got back into watching Thief gameplay commentaries so I'm not as well-versed as you... But that said, I also recommend vfig for someone who is an OG taffer, knows how to play Thief (as well as develop, he knows a lot about DromEd), and gives good commentary which isn't cringeworthy. He mostly prefers to ghost missions, which isn't my own playstyle, and not as "extreme" as Klatremus' supreme ghost restrictions. Give him a watch if you haven't already ;-)
Yooo Klatremus, nice to have you back, and in a perfect moment as Black Parade released, I'm looking forward to it. Btw, at 2:36:30, It was weird to me it was written "chicken paprikash", as I understood paprikash, paprykarz in Polish, HAS to be made of fish meat, or else it's not a paprykarz at all. Wild stuff that it's made of some other meat in Hungary apparently, from which the chicken paprikash apparently comes from :D I've seen a vegetarian paprykarz, made with no meat at all, don't know about that. Interesting. :D
In Norwegian, 'paprika' is ground bell pepper, which totally makes sense as a spice to have on chicken. Weird that it's something else entirely in Polish.
03:36:07 I wish thief had a similar mod to this one that lets you know from the game code if you triggered any type of alert because in that case you can simply stress test certain situations, like this one, you just stand in different places where the light source hits you and a guard or someone goes nearby and just see the counter go up or dont. That way you would know for sure that you dont gain an advantage of removing a light source, a clear as day case would be the candles inside the bathroom of ramirez house in thief 1, no one even enters the bedroom, much less that bathroom, but yea there are other scenarios where its indeed opening a can of worms lol, But at least for the dark mod there should tweak those rules for loot that emits a light in particular. You can already abuse the light mechanics here stacking objects that are way easy to manipulate and make a literal wall to create shadows and from what i remember guards dont notice them. So its not a bad idea to revisit this, at least for the dark mod in particular. Other than that, really good mission, map feels bigger than it actually is if you think about it for a moment.
I seriously doubt we will modify the light rule any further. After all, it's not like it has ever prevented me from reaching the loot goal. But I like your points.
It's a mod that changes the loot counter to also include stealth stats. Download this and put in tdm folder: www.klatremus.org/uploads/tdm_loot_stealth_stats.pk4. You need to restart the mission for it to take effect. It's just plain awesome.
No, there is one rule for traps which only specify not triggering them, but says nothing about disabling. Then there's a different rule for security systems which oppositely says no disabling, but doesn't mention triggers. Thus, since they are separated in the rules, we interpret security systems not to include traps or anything that only seeks to damage you, but rather alarm systems that intend to alert others to your presence. So technically you can disable traps and trigger security systems, as long as nobody gets alerted in the process of course.
Absolutely! I started recording this mission before TBP was released, but I comment on it later in the video after it was out lol. It took me a few weeks to get this done.
Thank you so much for taking the time to play the mission and produce this fantastic video! I will throw in one more expression of our gratitude to Grayman, whose contributions to the game are so integral and extensive, there is really no overstating them. Thank you, and rest well. I’ll throw in a “TBP video when?!?” just for consistency sake. God speed. 🫡
Thanks for your comment, WC. Our appreciation should also go out to you and the other co-authors for finishing and releasing the mission. I know Grayman would have loved that. As for TBP, I might be able to do 1 mission next week. If not, then it won't be until January, as we are traveling and staying with friends and family for 3 weeks.
0:00 - Intro
6:50 - Streets, east
39:10 - Streets, north
1:02:10 - Streets, west
1:13:20 - Streets, south
1:32:46 - City Watch Precinct
1:50:40 - Leicester Manor
2:52:40 - Worldspring
4:08:55 - Back in manor
4:32:53 - Going home
4:40:38 - Ending
Really looking forward to you playing The Black Parade campaign! Watching you and Marbleman Ghost/Supreme missions is my favorite type of FM playthroughs
Glad to hear it! I'm not sure marbleman will do vids for TBP since he's part of the design team.
Since you rarely do supreme ghost for dark mod, it makes me excited when I see a new video. I am enjoying every bit of it, and I will be waiting for TBP like everyone else.
You do the best Thief gameplay videos!
Thanks, happy you enjoy it!
No, the Best is Coconut Chriss.
Klatremus is talking to much and he explains the game instead of playing.
After MandaloreGaming review I’m pretty hyped for the Black Parade. Tried a few others but their playstyle are so messy. I’ll wait for your videos instead.
Thanks, that actually means a lot. I watched a few minutes of some other let's plays of TBP and I was wondering if people would even bother watching mine since there are already others out there. So I'm happy you say you enjoy my style, despite my videos being quite long.
@@klatre I watched some others, and the ones I found who posted day 1 were very colorful with language and otherwise made me very uninterested. I am so excited for your playthrough!
Great video, I certainly missed some stuff.
That blue "keeper" you saw is from Mother Rose, a very short, Halloween-type FM by Grayman. This FM is naturally full of references and tributes to Grayman, the big one being the peaceful area with the sword in the stone (and the large painting in the gallery depicting the same,) which was sort of like his avatar. Also, unless it's a weird supreme rule I'm not aware of, I don't think you need to reload when you fall into the void because it doesn't kill you. If you fall, you are teleported to a nearby piece of solid ground-sometimes the fastest way to travel, too!
Thanks for all that info! Grayman seems like a very influential person for the community. Falling into the void felt a bit too much like dying for Supreme, although perhaps not directly against the rules.
It so good to see high quality TDM missions - for some silly reasons, I am too clusmy for TDM, so I can only resort to watch the master supreming them...
That's a cool game mod mission. Splendid playthrough.
Thanks!
Getting some "Dishonored" vibes from the floating debris areas.
Hi @klatre,
thank you for this great walkthrough!
Since FMs like this are way too difficult for me to play, I have to resolve to watching playthroughs. As you said, there are quite a lot of people nowadays posting walks. BUT, most of them aren't really interesting to watch, they don't really know how to play thief and TDM. They KO everyone in sight, get half the loot at best, don't find secrets, and do weird commentaries which they think funny.
So it boils down to DrLizShawOBE2, Vman339, Harm (all three sadly without commentary), Marbleman and you.
Even if your playstyle is sometimes a little tedious to watch (10 or more retries to get a mantle right), I like your videos because of your superb commentary which sometimes even gives some inside information.
I've seen every single upload of yours now. Thank you for all these great walks! But I'd like you to do more TDM content. There are some great new missions out there.
And I'm very much looking forward to your TBP playthroughs!
You've watched every video? Wow, big thanks for your support! I don't like watching let's plays if there no commentary, but I quickly get annoyed if they have it but are unorganized, confusing, or try to be funny, or all of the above. Happy you enjoy the way I present the missions, cause I'm sure it's not for everyone. I actually prefer to have a smaller subscriber number, as it makes each comment more impactful and I can actually read and respond to most of them. And I know that most viewers are real fans of the game or the playstyle.
I'd like to try more dark mod missions, but there is just so much Thief content I'd like to get to. All in due time, i'm not going anywhere.
I just got back into watching Thief gameplay commentaries so I'm not as well-versed as you... But that said, I also recommend vfig for someone who is an OG taffer, knows how to play Thief (as well as develop, he knows a lot about DromEd), and gives good commentary which isn't cringeworthy. He mostly prefers to ghost missions, which isn't my own playstyle, and not as "extreme" as Klatremus' supreme ghost restrictions. Give him a watch if you haven't already ;-)
I have watched some of his content. I agree his videos are really good.
Was a really fun mission until i was stuck forever trying to find this hidden key, never would have found the way in that specific corner
i watched the whole thing !
Hopefully that means you enjoyed it!
yes!! @@klatre
Yooo Klatremus, nice to have you back, and in a perfect moment as Black Parade released, I'm looking forward to it. Btw, at 2:36:30, It was weird to me it was written "chicken paprikash", as I understood paprikash, paprykarz in Polish, HAS to be made of fish meat, or else it's not a paprykarz at all. Wild stuff that it's made of some other meat in Hungary apparently, from which the chicken paprikash apparently comes from :D I've seen a vegetarian paprykarz, made with no meat at all, don't know about that. Interesting. :D
In Norwegian, 'paprika' is ground bell pepper, which totally makes sense as a spice to have on chicken. Weird that it's something else entirely in Polish.
I guess it's completely different and weird for anyone and anywhere, :D@@klatre
03:36:07 I wish thief had a similar mod to this one that lets you know from the game code if you triggered any type of alert because in that case you can simply stress test certain situations, like this one, you just stand in different places where the light source hits you and a guard or someone goes nearby and just see the counter go up or dont. That way you would know for sure that you dont gain an advantage of removing a light source, a clear as day case would be the candles inside the bathroom of ramirez house in thief 1, no one even enters the bedroom, much less that bathroom, but yea there are other scenarios where its indeed opening a can of worms lol, But at least for the dark mod there should tweak those rules for loot that emits a light in particular. You can already abuse the light mechanics here stacking objects that are way easy to manipulate and make a literal wall to create shadows and from what i remember guards dont notice them. So its not a bad idea to revisit this, at least for the dark mod in particular.
Other than that, really good mission, map feels bigger than it actually is if you think about it for a moment.
I seriously doubt we will modify the light rule any further. After all, it's not like it has ever prevented me from reaching the loot goal. But I like your points.
@@klatre Would be funny tho if someone made a good level and decided to make loot needed to reach the goal a light source or all loot a light source.
Just want to say it's always a great day when you upload, love that there are still some people playing Thief and Thief inspired games.
Thanks, im glad missions are still being made!
how do you get the suspicions counter in the corner? I dont see it in settings. maybe i missed it
It's a mod that changes the loot counter to also include stealth stats. Download this and put in tdm folder: www.klatremus.org/uploads/tdm_loot_stealth_stats.pk4. You need to restart the mission for it to take effect. It's just plain awesome.
@@klatre Thank you! Much appreciative.
Wait, so disabling traps is okay? I thought they were included in the "no turning off of security systems" rule.
No, there is one rule for traps which only specify not triggering them, but says nothing about disabling. Then there's a different rule for security systems which oppositely says no disabling, but doesn't mention triggers. Thus, since they are separated in the rules, we interpret security systems not to include traps or anything that only seeks to damage you, but rather alarm systems that intend to alert others to your presence. So technically you can disable traps and trigger security systems, as long as nobody gets alerted in the process of course.
What is the reason for starting with 4 gold?
You mean on the table in first room? I'm not sure really.
Will you be doing any black parade playthroughs?
Absolutely! I started recording this mission before TBP was released, but I comment on it later in the video after it was out lol. It took me a few weeks to get this done.
@@klatre Excellent I'll look forward to those!
A BP style campaign for Dark Mod would also be amazing, I have to try it, last time i did there were few good FMs@@klatre
Thank you so much for taking the time to play the mission and produce this fantastic video! I will throw in one more expression of our gratitude to Grayman, whose contributions to the game are so integral and extensive, there is really no overstating them. Thank you, and rest well.
I’ll throw in a “TBP video when?!?” just for consistency sake. God speed. 🫡
Thanks for your comment, WC. Our appreciation should also go out to you and the other co-authors for finishing and releasing the mission. I know Grayman would have loved that.
As for TBP, I might be able to do 1 mission next week. If not, then it won't be until January, as we are traveling and staying with friends and family for 3 weeks.