This is good. At least you don’t pretend to know like atheist gurus do. But I’ll leave you with this thought: there is more profit in thinking that we continue to exist after physical death. There lies a perspective. Something to look forward to. A spirit of exploration and excitement. Look for answers and you will find them.
Great discussion! I loved the unique perspective and insight and to my own culture which i never truly examined from that angle. Thank you for hosting the event and for posting!
My mother said once when she was in her 70s and had some health issues: "I will never give up, I just love to live, even, I just love to exist". At that time I didn't quite understand why would she just like t "exist" but now that I am older and love life, I quite understand what it means unless you have a religion of a sort. She is 93 and still says the same.
His comedy career is long and successful. I remember first seeing him on the Mary Whitehouse show in the early mid 1990s and then in Newman & Badiel. The History Today/Tomorrow sketches were very funny to me as a teenager. Looking back now there’s a subtle undertone of promoting Atheism through his work imo. Then he did the ‘Euro 96 song “It’s coming home”. One of England’s finest moments, even though we lost to Germany on penalties in the QFinals. The song brought the whole nation together and made them mega famous. I believe he has Jewish heritage/ancestry and has written a lot, books and columns for news & magazines. I think he also writes jokes and sketches for other entertainers and shows. He is very smart and has great communication skills, he’s also appeared on numerous chat shows and radio. I think he had or has his own radio talk show as well. I disagree with his theological position, but hey are there any two people who have exactly identical theological positions on every doctrine within their Faiths, or lack of? I rest my case and I hope this helps, now I’ve corrected you?
I guess for the ancients life was more of a struggle and generally shorter. That might explain their focus on spirituality and leading a meaningful life. I can't imagine what dying is like but I can see how knowing that you have lived a meaningful life and are going through what everyone must ultimately endure could be of comfort and make the process feel less lonely. Being occasionally reminded of death is a humbling leveler. It should inspire kinship and spur us to try to lead meaningful lives.
Their children would drop down dead with alarming regularity and they had little or no explanation for it so it's obviously comforting to believe they're floating in the clouds and you'll see them in a bit.
Russell is right, and it has nothing to do with being haughty and better than others. Fear of death is irrational, leads to belief in all sorts of nonsense, and this nonsense leads to all sorts of secondary and tertiary problems. Especially when lost opportunity costs are considered. Our friend here isn't as deep a thinker as he thinks he is.
Brains do consciousness. So, for a moment, just forget your name, and see yourself as just a brain that's doing consciousness. Will brains be doing consciousness after the brain that's reading this dies and stops doing consciousness? Yes. Therefore there will indeed be conscious experience after this brain no longer does it. Therefore, just as a brain doing consciousness is what ended "non-existence before birth", so too will a brain doing consciousness be what ends "non-existence after death"... Because brains will be doing consciousness at that time. There is no "eternal peace" or "nothingness".
Their would be a realisation that you had made a big miscalculation and been gifted the opportunity to find out how and why and not repeat the error! But robbed of the best sleep ever.
Facts gentleman, facts. The don't care about what you feel. Either god exists and your consciousness continues to exist after your mortal death, or it doesn't. The fact is that we have no evidence to support either alternative. Again what you want is irrelevant. The universe doesn't care what you want. We have been given a gift, the gift of consciousness. We have used this consciousness and intelligence to understand where our fear of death comes from. The fear of death comes from evolution. Generally the entity which has a fear of death survives, the entity that has no fear doesn't care about its own existence and so dies more easily. The fear of death survives. Humans fear death and want to live forever and so invented god. But the want to live forever does not make it a fact. Have a nice day.
My brother in humanity, I am sending you this message... God is waiting for you to follow the path of guidance and He loves goodness for you... What do you think about sailing on a journey of searching for God, the Great Creator who created this beautiful universe... If you want to know God, read about the Islamic religion God commanded us to follow him
A Theologian is like an Astrologer who only knows about one constellation. Both are experts in ridiculous affirmations that are completely made up., repeated ad nauseam and indoctrinated since childhood., but totally unfounded. To quote a Theologian in an Intelligence sqr talk seems a disservice to a rational conversation
Please (community guidelines) , mind your ancestral hunger and leave other people 's minds alone. Some people choose to follow God, some prefer the by-products.
Lacking evidence for something, doesn’t disprove it. At best you’re Agnostic, there’s no such as Atheist. Everyone at some point has to admit a gap in their knowledge and put Faith in something, or someone else to tell them what to think. I rest my case and I hope this helps, now I’ve corrected you?
I’m okay with affirming that I don’t know what happens after I die.
and in turn being suspicious of those whom claim they know with 100% certainty
This is good. At least you don’t pretend to know like atheist gurus do. But I’ll leave you with this thought: there is more profit in thinking that we continue to exist after physical death. There lies a perspective. Something to look forward to. A spirit of exploration and excitement. Look for answers and you will find them.
@@artbasss would you like to buy some magic beans?
I think you know exactly what happens to you after you die; we all do. You rot.
@@sylph4721 Are the beans still available?
Totally with Dawkins and Russell on this one.
Great discussion! I loved the unique perspective and insight and to my own culture which i never truly examined from that angle. Thank you for hosting the event and for posting!
My mother said once when she was in her 70s and had some health issues: "I will never give up, I just love to live, even, I just love to exist". At that time I didn't quite understand why would she just like t "exist" but now that I am older and love life, I quite understand what it means unless you have a religion of a sort. She is 93 and still says the same.
If you were born and brought up in West Hartlepool, believe me you absolutely had to have faith in something better to come !😕😕
Only in England would Baddiel be treated as a public intellectual
In England any gormless fool with a posh accent is treated as a public intellectual.
His comedy career is long and successful. I remember first seeing him on the Mary Whitehouse show in the early mid 1990s and then in Newman & Badiel. The History Today/Tomorrow sketches were very funny to me as a teenager.
Looking back now there’s a subtle undertone of promoting Atheism through his work imo.
Then he did the ‘Euro 96 song “It’s coming home”. One of England’s finest moments, even though we lost to Germany on penalties in the QFinals. The song brought the whole nation together and made them mega famous.
I believe he has Jewish heritage/ancestry and has written a lot, books and columns for news & magazines. I think he also writes jokes and sketches for other entertainers and shows.
He is very smart and has great communication skills, he’s also appeared on numerous chat shows and radio. I think he had or has his own radio talk show as well.
I disagree with his theological position, but hey are there any two people who have exactly identical theological positions on every doctrine within their Faiths, or lack of?
I rest my case and I hope this helps, now I’ve corrected you?
Absolutely. Smart enough guy in his way, but no intellectual.
I guess for the ancients life was more of a struggle and generally shorter. That might explain their focus on spirituality and leading a meaningful life. I can't imagine what dying is like but I can see how knowing that you have lived a meaningful life and are going through what everyone must ultimately endure could be of comfort and make the process feel less lonely. Being occasionally reminded of death is a humbling leveler. It should inspire kinship and spur us to try to lead meaningful lives.
Their children would drop down dead with alarming regularity and they had little or no explanation for it so it's obviously comforting to believe they're floating in the clouds and you'll see them in a bit.
Just because you made up an afterlife and God story doesn't mean you aren't facing oblivion.
David Baddiel....
I'm out
Russell is right, and it has nothing to do with being haughty and better than others. Fear of death is irrational, leads to belief in all sorts of nonsense, and this nonsense leads to all sorts of secondary and tertiary problems. Especially when lost opportunity costs are considered. Our friend here isn't as deep a thinker as he thinks he is.
Why are you guys copying pasting same video? Can you please upload the actual long version ?
The ending of consciousness should be seen as a gift. Knowing how absolutely worthless and pitiful humanity is, forgetting it is a blessing
I'd watch but given Baddiel's recent racist comments regards the Oppenheimer film, I'll pass.
You're not missing out on anything; Baddiel talks a load of woo wibbly-wobbly magic nonsense in this. The man's an idiot.
Same here.
Can't stand the guy
Gone off him too. It's ok for Irish people to play Jewish people just as it is for Jewish people to play Irish people. It's called acting.
specious stuff
Brains do consciousness. So, for a moment, just forget your name, and see yourself as just a brain that's doing consciousness. Will brains be doing consciousness after the brain that's reading this dies and stops doing consciousness? Yes. Therefore there will indeed be conscious experience after this brain no longer does it. Therefore, just as a brain doing consciousness is what ended "non-existence before birth", so too will a brain doing consciousness be what ends "non-existence after death"... Because brains will be doing consciousness at that time. There is no "eternal peace" or "nothingness".
Yep
Pretty much
So introduce a spiritual inheritance tax.
Their would be a realisation that you had made a big miscalculation and been gifted the opportunity to find out how and why and not repeat the error! But robbed of the best sleep ever.
Since when D Baddiel became an intellect?
Facts gentleman, facts. The don't care about what you feel. Either god exists and your consciousness continues to exist after your mortal death, or it doesn't. The fact is that we have no evidence to support either alternative. Again what you want is irrelevant. The universe doesn't care what you want.
We have been given a gift, the gift of consciousness. We have used this consciousness and intelligence to understand where our fear of death comes from. The fear of death comes from evolution. Generally the entity which has a fear of death survives, the entity that has no fear doesn't care about its own existence and so dies more easily. The fear of death survives. Humans fear death and want to live forever and so invented god. But the want to live forever does not make it a fact. Have a nice day.
My brother in humanity, I am sending you this message... God is waiting for you to follow the path of guidance and He loves goodness for you... What do you think about sailing on a journey of searching for God, the Great Creator who created this beautiful universe... If you want to know God, read about the Islamic religion God commanded us to follow him
Why does your god of loving goodness give small children cancer and brain parasites?
Islam is evil.
A Theologian is like an Astrologer who only knows about one constellation. Both are experts in ridiculous affirmations that are completely made up., repeated ad nauseam and indoctrinated since childhood., but totally unfounded. To quote a Theologian in an Intelligence sqr talk seems a disservice to a rational conversation
Please (community guidelines) , mind your ancestral hunger and leave other people 's minds alone. Some people choose to follow God, some prefer the by-products.
Lacking evidence for something, doesn’t disprove it. At best you’re Agnostic, there’s no such as Atheist.
Everyone at some point has to admit a gap in their knowledge and put Faith in something, or someone else to tell them what to think.
I rest my case and I hope this helps, now I’ve corrected you?
Bored of talking heads who aren't British.