What you do very well is showing the progression from the basics towards high quality shots. And I do think everything is there: the vertical swing path, start & end position, the contact point, the usage of the full kinetic chain starting from the weight transfer ... even up to the forward projection of the body so as to turn the shot into an attacking device. That while freezing the frames at the vital moments ... Top notch instructional.
Thanks Tom. I think you missed an important point in the backhand loop. The movement should be based on rotation.. Rotating around the elbow from left to right upwards forwards and the legs and hip initiate the rotation.. You are doing it correct but you need to emphasize it.. Otherwise beginners will initiate the movement by folding the upper body at the hip up and down or even just push forward..correct Rotation incorporating the legs and hips is key.. I often catch myself doing it wrong and whenever I just push or just not focus enough on rotation I'm not able to generate enough lift and speed
Lo mejor para principiantes es rozar la bola hacia arriba y olvidarse de que salga una bola rápida, tratar primero de meterla despacio. Luego de que tengas aprendido el ángulo requerido si quieres darle velocidad puedes empezar a chocarla mas y rozarla menos.
Thanks for making this, Tom. But sorry to say, even though you manage to create a decent amount of topspin, I think it's not your best technical shot. When you show us the movement (3:24) you start it low like you're supposed to, but when you use it in a match, you start way back behind your body (4:12). This turns the bat arc into a convex move, while it should be straight or a bit concave. Also, having your index finger on the middle of your bat is something I warn my students about all the time, so I'd mention that to them when showing them this video. There is even a video about it on your own channel (with Mark Mitchell). So my apologies for being so harsh (Dutch style), but these are a couple things I think are very important.
That's OK, you can be as harsh (Dutch style) as you want. I think with the few clips of me doing this shot in matches, maybe the pushes I received were a little higher, so I didn't need to start so low to lift the ball. My finger position is constantly changing between strokes. When playing FHs, it does come up higher into the rubber. But when playing backhand it moves back down. I don't recommend others to do this. It's my own style! But it doesn't restrict the shots I can play.
His instructional is top notch. Indeed in match play, the shot is more crooked. I think this adds to Tom's YT persona, which is of someone who has started late and acquired all the techniques by hard work, overcoming the burden of existing bad muscle memory. This is something many viewers can relate to. As for the finger, you are totally correct, but you might be surprised to learn that even top Chinese professionals like Ma Long, tend to change their grip between fh and bh, adding extra support with their index/thumb respectively!
The problem I face when executing this stroke is deciding the correct bat angle. Backhand more so than forehand. If I keep it more open to make the shot consistent, the ball falls outside the table because the backspin was less than I expected and vice versa. Is there any tip on how to make my loops more consistent and have a clear vision on the bat angle to choose? Thanks!
I can't remember the blade David was using, but rubbers were JOOLA Rhyzen ICE on both backhand and forehand. bribartt.co.uk/product/joola-rhyzen-ice-table-tennis-rubber/?ref=8204 ...
What you do very well is showing the progression from the basics towards high quality shots. And I do think everything is there: the vertical swing path, start & end position, the contact point, the usage of the full kinetic chain starting from the weight transfer ... even up to the forward projection of the body so as to turn the shot into an attacking device. That while freezing the frames at the vital moments ... Top notch instructional.
Clear, concise, easy to understand, well articulated. These are the adverbs I will use to describe Tom's video.
Hey, Tom, Thank you so much for that material. I cant wait i will practice that knowladges
Thanks Tom. I think you missed an important point in the backhand loop. The movement should be based on rotation.. Rotating around the elbow from left to right upwards forwards and the legs and hip initiate the rotation.. You are doing it correct but you need to emphasize it.. Otherwise beginners will initiate the movement by folding the upper body at the hip up and down or even just push forward..correct Rotation incorporating the legs and hips is key.. I often catch myself doing it wrong and whenever I just push or just not focus enough on rotation I'm not able to generate enough lift and speed
Good additional information. Thank you.
Lo mejor para principiantes es rozar la bola hacia arriba y olvidarse de que salga una bola rápida, tratar primero de meterla despacio. Luego de que tengas aprendido el ángulo requerido si quieres darle velocidad puedes empezar a chocarla mas y rozarla menos.
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Thanks for making this, Tom. But sorry to say, even though you manage to create a decent amount of topspin, I think it's not your best technical shot. When you show us the movement (3:24) you start it low like you're supposed to, but when you use it in a match, you start way back behind your body (4:12). This turns the bat arc into a convex move, while it should be straight or a bit concave. Also, having your index finger on the middle of your bat is something I warn my students about all the time, so I'd mention that to them when showing them this video. There is even a video about it on your own channel (with Mark Mitchell). So my apologies for being so harsh (Dutch style), but these are a couple things I think are very important.
That's OK, you can be as harsh (Dutch style) as you want. I think with the few clips of me doing this shot in matches, maybe the pushes I received were a little higher, so I didn't need to start so low to lift the ball. My finger position is constantly changing between strokes. When playing FHs, it does come up higher into the rubber. But when playing backhand it moves back down. I don't recommend others to do this. It's my own style! But it doesn't restrict the shots I can play.
His instructional is top notch. Indeed in match play, the shot is more crooked. I think this adds to Tom's YT persona, which is of someone who has started late and acquired all the techniques by hard work, overcoming the burden of existing bad muscle memory. This is something many viewers can relate to.
As for the finger, you are totally correct, but you might be surprised to learn that even top Chinese professionals like Ma Long, tend to change their grip between fh and bh, adding extra support with their index/thumb respectively!
Super, Tom. Your technique is better and better along time. It is mainly like pro yet.
The problem I face when executing this stroke is deciding the correct bat angle. Backhand more so than forehand. If I keep it more open to make the shot consistent, the ball falls outside the table because the backspin was less than I expected and vice versa. Is there any tip on how to make my loops more consistent and have a clear vision on the bat angle to choose? Thanks!
What robot are you using in the video?
It's the PowerPong Omega www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/review-power-pong-omega-robot/
👍What equipment does David use?
I can't remember the blade David was using, but rubbers were JOOLA Rhyzen ICE on both backhand and forehand. bribartt.co.uk/product/joola-rhyzen-ice-table-tennis-rubber/?ref=8204 ...
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