Joel has waited a long time for this recognition, and the administration will be wise to listen to him, not just about farming, but for the government to get out of the way.
Trump knows what he doesn't know. and he has a knack for finding the right person for the right job. The first 4 years of his presidency was a tutorial this time will be different. Once he learns you can sequester carbon AND make people healthier? Trump is all about win win deals he likes killing two birds with one stone. Joal will have Trump eating out of his hands, just wait and see.
Isn't a change in the incentive structures a good first step? It will take time to dismantle the whole bureaucracy, I feel like Make America Healthy is at least bringing attention to the problems so we can start these bigger conversations.
I was just telling my dad and brother a couple of days ago that RFK, Jr. is pushing for regenerative farming but I'm afraid that his solution is for government subsidies and programs. I just want the government to stop subsidizing everything. Government subsidies stifle innovation, create regulatory burdens and reward corporations with the best lobbyists. I want government to leave me alone and stop wasting my tax dollars.
I listened to RFK recently, and he also is critical of big govt. I think he will be much more inline with your ideology than you think. He already sent a warning to the FDA saying anyone who is part of the corrupt system he has two messages for you: 1. Preserve your records, and 2. Pack your bags. RFK is going to do GREAT things. Deregulation will likely be part of it. The biggest part will be fighting big pharma.
I think Salatin needs to rewatch how RFK wants to implement these things. His strategy is to change NIH funding to preventative disease research, which gives lawyers the backing to sue pesticide companies. RFK is not the main person or issue on a Trump ticket, so I don't think he has the political power to just delete subsidies. This is the best option he has for reworking the food system without real political support.
I get Joel, we both hate government and don't see government as part of the solution because they are never part of the solution but they are often the reason for the problem.
@@nedhill1242 RFK Jr is pushing for deregulation on most issues across many industries. He also drinks raw milk, hunts/fishes and buys grassfed for all of his food. He is well aware of regulations against small farms and he supports the PRIME act to legalize custom slaughter. He has interviewed Salatin previously on his podcast. It's not worth getting bogged down in libertarian ideology, RFK Jr has a track record of good results.
@@templeprogramming3579 Actually, small farmers should’ve been filing massive class action lawsuits decades ago because what the USDA does is unconstitutional. The constitution gives a federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. Not interstate commerce. There should be no need for a bill because almost everything the USDA like 95% of the federal government is unconstitutional. He has a good track record? As a politician? Hasn’t had any power to do things other than lobby and educate. I support what he’s doing. I think it’s great that he’s in Trump’s administration. I would never vote for him as president. Because he still has a lot of very problematic views. He still has some radical left-wing views. But you’re missing the point. To do this you’re talking about creating another government agency. You’re talking about having to pass more regulations. That would be eliminating some what you’re still gonna have to pass more. And you are creating more bureaucracy. What he’s saying is 100% correct. You’re trading one agency for another agency. If you listen, he’s saying he gets it. He’s saying he likes some of it. He likes the meaning behind it, but this at the end of the day is still the federal government. There’s an old joke about nothing being more permanent than a temporary government program. Not saying he doesn’t like he’s saying he’s skeptical. You’re trading these regulations for those regulations. You’re thinking checkers while Joel is playing chess.
Every body needs to rewatch Kennedy Jr.... The majority of Todays 1st world populations have been 'inoculated' from first hand exposure to epidemics measles hooping-cough diphtheria polio and a growing contingent to the effects of Human papillomavirus ....So best of luck. I'm small scale farmer, not in an area where i need to think about rabies but I do know what tetanus is and rusty fencing ... and thank science for understanding of Germ theory.
@ He has never said vaccines don’t have positives. He’s not anti-vaccine. But all medicines are approving to be contaminated these days. Vaccines in particular that used to be safe or now causing more and more problems. A lot of this has to do with being manufactured in China and other places. The quality control is no longer there. Look at our public water system. Completely contaminated. And the big jab that we still can’t really talk about here is a perfect example of an experimental vaccine that should never have been mandated and should never have been used widespread because it doesn’t stop the spread nor does it prevent you from getting sick, therefore it’s technically not a vaccine, it’s a glorified flu shot, but with far more complications and risk. It’s very good for people that are at high risk. If you’re extremely overweight if you have serious health problems if you’re over the age of 65 or 70. Then you should get it. Everyone else should simply do common sense stuff to boost their natural immune system and they will fare far better. Joel and Bobby will make a great team because they’re both approaching different aspects of the food and drug system that are systemically harming people today. Hopefully the other five members of this advisor committee will be as good as Joel. Sugar, high fructose corn syrup, seed oil, processed foods, especially ultra processed foods, these things are killing Americans. They are causing the obesity epidemic. They are the cause of metabolic syndrome and many other diseases that come from that have had exponential growth in our population over the last 20 to 30 years. many other countries don’t allow yes in Coca-Cola and other foods. Many other countries don’t allow many of the ingredients we allow in food in America. There is a lot that can be done that is actually common sense even to a libertarian like me to make America significantly healthier. Bobby is the perfect person for that. I would never vote for him as president, but I think he’s perfect for this job.
Removing incentives & subsidies for industrial chemical farming practices is a good first step in reducing the nanny state. Grateful Joel will be advising the USDA. Support small farmers. Help new ones get started, & teach them how to be profitable & restorative.
If America wants me to be healthy again, they need to stop telling me what to eat. They need to leave our farmers alone that want to sell us fresh milk, and eggs and such. That's freedom. I'm 76 years old I've drank enough fresh milk to float a ship and I'm still kicking around. Stop picking on the little guy and let him make a living for his family.
You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
It is too bad in 1985 when many farmers were going broke without farm programs that we did not let it play itself out. In the midst of that farmers were innovating away from corn, cotton and soybeans, and becoming creative. We were almost there and all of a sudden we had this huge new farm program again. Now built into the price of farm land are farm subsidies including ethanol.
Another reason to like this guy! I'm sitting here in a MAHA t shirt in a deep red state, planning to vote Libertarian. Yes I appreciate Kennedy and am thrilled to see him bring the MAHA message into the MAGA movement and the mainstream conversation.
Even just decentralizing the public education system would be massive. Quickly accomplished by abolishing the Dept. of Education and going back to local school governance a la pre 1979 U.S. I can't wait to see what you and Massie do with the USDA.
Just educate, not regulate. Our biggest enemy is our fellow farmer, who is “conventional” in practice. It’s not big ag sending the regulators after us. My USDA inspector has seen every initial report that initiated an investigation over a 3 year period. It was always another small producer, who uses conventional farming practices, who lived within 5 miles of the farm being reported. Part of how raw milk is surviving, is there aren’t a lot of dairies left. Thus, no one to care.
You are partially right. But it’s also the government. It is also regulations. It is also big Ag. Because if you don’t have big Ag you don’t have industrialized food or industrialized farming or too big to fail, etc. and you don’t have small farms and homesteaders being put out of business without big government. Without the USDA. It was the government that created the dustbowl.
@@nedhill1242 I’m 100% right. What we do is so insignificant to the greater market, the big shots could give 2 sh1ts about us. But a 500’cow conventional dairy, 2 miles down the road from one of my all grass dairies that made fun of me when I had 50 cows, and now have 5000 total. THEY WISH I WAS DEAD!
I thought the Trump administration was all about deregulating. Making the government smaller means appointing people to do it. I'm thrilled that there is a focus on getting America healthier.
@@masonbaylorbears who is giving you pushback on the right? Most conservative and libertarian parents want to homestead at homeschool or wish they could so where exactly are you getting pushback from the right? Be specific.
@nedhill1242 I'm not debating anything so not going to waste a ton of time explaining. I just have rarely someone agree with me on these topics and I'm in Texas so alot if not all the people i talk to are on the right. I consider myself on the right. Convos generally go they thing something is bad and you suggest getting rid of it and then they respond well you can't just get rid of it. You ask why not and they reply someone could do X that doesnt align with what they think. So most people are only libertarian with their own beliefs and want everyone else's controlled by the govt. That goes for FDA type rules, HOA type control, School, etc..
@@masonbaylorbears I live in South Carolina and it’s the exact opposite. If you’re a conservative if you’re a libertarian and you believe in the constitution, then you understand that over 90 if not over 95% of what the federal government does is unconstitutional. It’s why the founding fathers would actually love most of project 2025. There is some dumb shit in it for sure. But they want to get rid of most of the federal government, which is on constitutional and the founding fathers would love it. The part that I think is stupid is they want to keep the department of Homeland security and put all this stuff underneath DHS. Hell no. That and the department of education and department of interior and the EPA and almost all of these Parts of the federal government if not, all of them should be erased. Constitution did three things. Outlined destruction of the federal government. Severely restrict and limit the power of the federal government to foreign policy, which is completely controlled by the president by the way, which is why Trump is right about generals being loyal. The president unilaterally controls foreign policy in America. The president is the commander in chief. If a general doesn’t do what the president says, they can be arrested and thrown in jail for insubordination. They absolutely are supposed to be loyal. It’s called a chain of command. He is the commander in chief. Do what he says or Get Court, Marshall. It’s really that simple. Truman fired two of the most popular and greatest generals in American history. Patton and MacArthur. So, outlined the structure of the federal government, interstate commerce, foreign policy. Everything else is to be done by the states. Federal income taxes the federal reserve the FDA all of that USDA. It’s all unconstitutional. I’m so far to the right I’m basically an anarchist. Barr extremism is anarchy. Which is grossly misunderstood. Not fascism. Not authoritarianism. People that have authoritarian leanings on the right are actually not conservatives as a libertarians. They’re fundamentalist and when you start talking to them, you realize their motivated by some weird religious thing and not the constitution and not conservative or libertarian values. Fascism is absolutely a left-wing ideology. The Nazis were socialist. There are plenty of very well respected academics on TH-cam explaining in detail exactly why and how fascism is left-wing because it is collectivist it is authoritarian and unlike other left-wing ideologies you don’t need to own the means of production if you can control it is what is today. China moved away from communism and really has more of a fascist economy and government today. Look at 1930s Germany. An extreme version of capitalism the federal government and regulations created all these multinational companies. Created too big to fail. Created all of the monopolies and oligarchs we have today. We have an extreme form of Cron capitalism that is by definition fascist. We have had free market in prize, free market capitalism or anything close to real democracy since the early 1900s. So I don’t know what people you’re talking to, but they don’t understand civics and they damn sure I don’t understand the constitution or what the founding fathers created and intended. Tell him to actually read the constitution and read the federalist papers. Maybe start my reading, an elementary civics book. The conservatives and libertarians I know here in South Carolina are well informed, and they can’t stand the government. Actually, there is a suburb of Atlanta where 100% of everything is privatized. There have been booked written about it. It is literally an anarchist city. It proves it can be done even at the local level. they don’t have elected officials other than a few elected city council people, but they don’t call that because they don’t meet very often and people vote on most everything.
absolutely - "in with the new boss, same as the old boss". it's power of course, we vote for people who get power and we go home thinking we have power?! I' lived through the 60s and 70s and they knew all this and were hounded by Nixon, My own work is education, i have a presentation on "What if there was only one concept to learn? what if we were born knowing it? the concept is symmetry - the unity of opposites, it means not only do we already know the basics of a whole curriculum we are wired that way, body and mind
We the people with Reliance on Divine Providence is the answer. Let me explain, we have 350 million people in our country there needs to be a systems in place to help out all the people. I call it the 80/20 rule, 20% of people are independent enough take care of ourselves/ neighbors on our homesteads. 80% have to support everything else and live in towns and cities. I believe the Amish have a very good system. It starts off with the family, then, community and then to the state. But if we the people do not hold the system accountable and the people we asked to run that system, then this is the true problem. From the beginning God set up a system, it was We the People that abused or misused that system. I understand we will not change the system overnight, but it must start somewhere & someone has to be in charge we can slowly, but surely re-implement proper systems to make it work and then hold those accountable that we elect. Be self-sufficient, help your neighbor and then hold the system, no matter what level local, state, federal an churches accountable. The two greatest Commandments> love God with all your heart soul and mind and your neighbor likewise
I prefer some government intervention if it keeps our food safe instead of allowing big agro and big pharma to pollute it. Getting rid of a lot of government intervention is a good start.
You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
I don’t have life insurance however they have incentives are to keep you healthy. Also why should an employer be in charge of getting your health insurance, take taxes out of your paycheck etc?
If corn costs $4xx+ an acre to grow and "Joe" down the road can't afford to pay that because he's a small farmer, he needs the bank to finance his crop but we get the government out of it, who fronts him the capital to keep going? I'll wait while that gets explained to me...BTW I'm a farmer
I am so excited for change and less regulatons. For example, I cannot sell organic apple cider; it must be pastuerized. I can't sell fruits and vegetables to a grocery store. I can't compete with corn and soybean growers. Even if we dropped all subsidies, how can I compete? Say I would like to grow some wheat, maybe buckwheat, maybe rye, etc any organic grain...there is nowhere to sell it. There are lots of places to sell gmo soybeans. Where can I sell my specialty crops?
@kristingoettlicher3503 I'm not sure what state you live. Here in Wisconsin, you can sell your fruits and vegetables to grocery stores, restaurants, food coops, local food distributors to school nutrition programs, farmers markets, CSAs, sell right at your farm. You can also sell meats as long as they are processed and state inspected at the meat locker. Apple cider does have to be pasteurized to sell to the public. Local Apple growers take it to a local processor who has large scale pasteurization and bottle. That fee is relatively low and is passed on to the consumers. Unpasteurized cider can carry health risks: pathogenic E. coli, Salmonella, or parasites like cryptosporidium. No one wants to become ill. Also, Google National Farmers Union to find a local chapter near you. There are many like minded people who are growers and non growers.
Like most libertarians you live in a fantasy world. You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
It's not so much that we asked for it, the attorneys offered it or forced it upon us to some degree and we keep feeding them and thanking the police for their services....all for the attorneys.
RKJr and a lot of the reg ag comunity like to talk about health, soil and so on and are very shy or completely ignore when it comes to talk about the big elephant in the room that regulations are. And the elephant has grown into a herd of massive mamoths that have stampeed the room and the house long time ago, if they are shy about it they are either complicity or ignorant and should not have a say. Only Joel has consistantly and corageously talked about it for years.
RFK Jr. supports deregulation policies that Salatin supports like the PRIME act 😂. He buys only from local grass farmers and drinks raw milk. I think RFK Jr and Salatin have a lot in common when it comes to agriculture policy
@andrewfinch3024 On my opinion, I think the corporate farmers would survive because they have the lowest tax rates and the largest amount of money. Trump lowered their tax rate for 35% to 21% and he's promised to lower it further. Unfortunately, farmers that produce the cleanest and most healthy food will succumb to Big AG. The BEST will be left behind. Small Farmer
@@PICARDY610 Regulations are the milk needs to be tested for pathogens. I think most people want some testing to ensure the milk is safe and hasn't been contaminated during handling.
@@thisorthat7626 BEEN DRINKING RAW MILK FOR 16 YEARS. 15 MINUTES AFTER SQUEEZED, NEVER HAVE MYSELF OR FAMILY EVER, E V E R HAD A PROBLEM. HEALTHIEST THING ON THE PLANET. REGULATING IT CAUSES THE PROBLEM. MAKE RAW MILK HEALTHY AGAIN! PATHOGENS HA HA HA HA LOLOLOL
I don't think Trump has a say on what wars are fought. Given the current situation the tinder boxes are already lit so it's more about do things remain stable enough for the current fires to be extinguished.
Nothing will be changed, if there's any, it's for the worst,under Trump. His tariffs will make many things expensive + he still want to support Israel's war. Joel's right, both democrats and republicans are just a nanny states, nothing special. Libertarian party is the way to go if you want to achieve on what you've just said.
Wow Joel...u definitely lost me on eliminating the public school. We down to earth people growing our own food and just generally " know better" type people R RARE! Most people DEPEND on the public school as bad as some aspects may b ya can't throw the baby out with the bathwater! We just need to do better and everything I do needs improvement so do government systems.
lol wow you are grossly ignorant and misinformed. Joel is 100 percent correct about public education. Good lord do a little research. Kids today are being indoctrinated by the most extreme far left insanity starting in kindergarten. Carter created the DOE in 78 and nationalized the teachers unions and they destroyed education in less than 30 years. Government systems can't be fixed, the are the problem. Have you ever read a civics book, the constitution, or the federalist papers? Clearly not. Even Reagan wanted to kill the DOE.
I am sorry anyone that thinks public schools can be fixed with school boards being in charged of them is part of the problem. The children need parents that take charge of the childrens learning
You’re not a critical thinker. You’re thinking in simplistic binary terms. Homeschooling versus public education. Hell, no! There are infinite choices in between. Your property taxes paid for the public education system. Eliminate public education. Eliminate property taxes. You don’t need vouchers if you eliminate Property taxes. It would be cheaper to send your kids to a private charter school. Cheaper yet and probably the best results places like faith-based Catholic schools. Or better yet get together with people in your subdivision or your local community and create a community based school, sort of like the old one room, school house and higher, excellent teacher that supports your values and real education and critical thank you. And get the parents involved.
@@nedhill1242 oh yes that sounds so wonderful, if only it could happen. Let b real, our nation is made up of people who really do care and can lead that type of idea, but others that either don't care or don't have the time or mental capacity to do that . I have been around the horn long enough to know it is best to shut one's mouth and lead by example. Telling others how they should think is not going to win anyone over. Putting yourself in others shoes will get u much further in such things.
I just saw that you are possibly invited to help redirect the USDA? If you accept, I’m sure we will all benefit greatly on all levels! I’d love to help with this project! Please email me!
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Joel has waited a long time for this recognition, and the administration will be wise to listen to him, not just about farming, but for the government to get out of the way.
Yes but the wrong govt keeps turning up like a bad penny...we all worked hard for this. Not willing to throw it all away on a wish list item.
Trump knows what he doesn't know. and he has a knack for finding the right person for the right job. The first 4 years of his presidency was a tutorial this time will be different. Once he learns you can sequester carbon AND make people healthier? Trump is all about win win deals he likes killing two birds with one stone. Joal will have Trump eating out of his hands, just wait and see.
Isn't a change in the incentive structures a good first step? It will take time to dismantle the whole bureaucracy, I feel like Make America Healthy is at least bringing attention to the problems so we can start these bigger conversations.
Agreed. It’s going to be a fight all the way. It took time to get where we are and it’ll take time fighting to disassemble
The chemicals in farming has to stop
Just saw you are going to advise USDA. Whoot! So happy for you and us!!!!
He's part of deep state Gig government now.... I don't trust him now
Joel Salatin is awesome. Part of what makes him so cool is his awesome collection of books. He defies every stereotype of an American farmer. ❤
I was just telling my dad and brother a couple of days ago that RFK, Jr. is pushing for regenerative farming but I'm afraid that his solution is for government subsidies and programs. I just want the government to stop subsidizing everything. Government subsidies stifle innovation, create regulatory burdens and reward corporations with the best lobbyists. I want government to leave me alone and stop wasting my tax dollars.
Well ironically enough RFKs team has tapped this guy for Trump's team.
I listened to RFK recently, and he also is critical of big govt. I think he will be much more inline with your ideology than you think. He already sent a warning to the FDA saying anyone who is part of the corrupt system he has two messages for you: 1. Preserve your records, and 2. Pack your bags. RFK is going to do GREAT things. Deregulation will likely be part of it. The biggest part will be fighting big pharma.
I think Salatin needs to rewatch how RFK wants to implement these things. His strategy is to change NIH funding to preventative disease research, which gives lawyers the backing to sue pesticide companies. RFK is not the main person or issue on a Trump ticket, so I don't think he has the political power to just delete subsidies. This is the best option he has for reworking the food system without real political support.
I get Joel, we both hate government and don't see government as part of the solution because they are never part of the solution but they are often the reason for the problem.
@@nedhill1242 RFK Jr is pushing for deregulation on most issues across many industries. He also drinks raw milk, hunts/fishes and buys grassfed for all of his food. He is well aware of regulations against small farms and he supports the PRIME act to legalize custom slaughter. He has interviewed Salatin previously on his podcast. It's not worth getting bogged down in libertarian ideology, RFK Jr has a track record of good results.
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Actually, small farmers should’ve been filing massive class action lawsuits decades ago because what the USDA does is unconstitutional. The constitution gives a federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. Not interstate commerce. There should be no need for a bill because almost everything the USDA like 95% of the federal government is unconstitutional.
He has a good track record? As a politician? Hasn’t had any power to do things other than lobby and educate.
I support what he’s doing. I think it’s great that he’s in Trump’s administration. I would never vote for him as president. Because he still has a lot of very problematic views. He still has some radical left-wing views.
But you’re missing the point. To do this you’re talking about creating another government agency. You’re talking about having to pass more regulations. That would be eliminating some what you’re still gonna have to pass more. And you are creating more bureaucracy. What he’s saying is 100% correct. You’re trading one agency for another agency. If you listen, he’s saying he gets it. He’s saying he likes some of it. He likes the meaning behind it, but this at the end of the day is still the federal government. There’s an old joke about nothing being more permanent than a temporary government program. Not saying he doesn’t like he’s saying he’s skeptical. You’re trading these regulations for those regulations. You’re thinking checkers while Joel is playing chess.
Every body needs to rewatch Kennedy Jr.... The majority of Todays 1st world populations have been 'inoculated' from first hand exposure to epidemics measles hooping-cough diphtheria polio and a growing contingent to the effects of Human papillomavirus ....So best of luck.
I'm small scale farmer, not in an area where i need to think about rabies but I do know what tetanus is and rusty fencing ... and thank science for understanding of Germ theory.
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He has never said vaccines don’t have positives. He’s not anti-vaccine. But all medicines are approving to be contaminated these days. Vaccines in particular that used to be safe or now causing more and more problems. A lot of this has to do with being manufactured in China and other places. The quality control is no longer there. Look at our public water system. Completely contaminated. And the big jab that we still can’t really talk about here is a perfect example of an experimental vaccine that should never have been mandated and should never have been used widespread because it doesn’t stop the spread nor does it prevent you from getting sick, therefore it’s technically not a vaccine, it’s a glorified flu shot, but with far more complications and risk. It’s very good for people that are at high risk. If you’re extremely overweight if you have serious health problems if you’re over the age of 65 or 70. Then you should get it. Everyone else should simply do common sense stuff to boost their natural immune system and they will fare far better.
Joel and Bobby will make a great team because they’re both approaching different aspects of the food and drug system that are systemically harming people today. Hopefully the other five members of this advisor committee will be as good as Joel.
Sugar, high fructose corn syrup, seed oil, processed foods, especially ultra processed foods, these things are killing Americans. They are causing the obesity epidemic. They are the cause of metabolic syndrome and many other diseases that come from that have had exponential growth in our population over the last 20 to 30 years. many other countries don’t allow yes in Coca-Cola and other foods. Many other countries don’t allow many of the ingredients we allow in food in America. There is a lot that can be done that is actually common sense even to a libertarian like me to make America significantly healthier. Bobby is the perfect person for that. I would never vote for him as president, but I think he’s perfect for this job.
Removing incentives & subsidies for industrial chemical farming practices is a good first step in reducing the nanny state. Grateful Joel will be advising the USDA. Support small farmers. Help new ones get started, & teach them how to be profitable & restorative.
If America wants me to be healthy again, they need to stop telling me what to eat. They need to leave our farmers alone that want to sell us fresh milk, and eggs and such. That's freedom. I'm 76 years old I've drank enough fresh milk to float a ship and I'm still kicking around. Stop picking on the little guy and let him make a living for his family.
You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
Home school all the way
You think everyone is rich enough for one parent to stay home?
Do what you can
But Children's education should always come before nice things
It is too bad in 1985 when many farmers were going broke without farm programs that we did not let it play itself out. In the midst of that farmers were innovating away from corn, cotton and soybeans, and becoming creative. We were almost there and all of a sudden we had this huge new farm program again. Now built into the price of farm land are farm subsidies including ethanol.
I have so much respect for both Joel Salatin and Thomas Massie. The Lunatic Farmer is now working for the government and that's pretty awesome.
He's part of deep state Gig government now.... I don't trust him now
lol...yeah, for awhile I was thinking...oooh...hmmm...I don't know about that...but I hope so...I am glad Joel stepped up to the plate.
Keep the government out!
He's part of deep state Gig government now.... I don't trust him now
Another reason to like this guy! I'm sitting here in a MAHA t shirt in a deep red state, planning to vote Libertarian. Yes I appreciate Kennedy and am thrilled to see him bring the MAHA message into the MAGA movement and the mainstream conversation.
Even just decentralizing the public education system would be massive. Quickly accomplished by abolishing the Dept. of Education and going back to local school governance a la pre 1979 U.S.
I can't wait to see what you and Massie do with the USDA.
He's part of deep state Gig government now.... I don't trust him now
We love you and bless you from France !
Merci from Texas!
Our health, our very lives are determined every day- in each choice.
Just educate, not regulate. Our biggest enemy is our fellow farmer, who is “conventional” in practice. It’s not big ag sending the regulators after us. My USDA inspector has seen every initial report that initiated an investigation over a 3 year period. It was always another small producer, who uses conventional farming practices, who lived within 5 miles of the farm being reported.
Part of how raw milk is surviving, is there aren’t a lot of dairies left. Thus, no one to care.
You are partially right. But it’s also the government. It is also regulations. It is also big Ag. Because if you don’t have big Ag you don’t have industrialized food or industrialized farming or too big to fail, etc. and you don’t have small farms and homesteaders being put out of business without big government. Without the USDA. It was the government that created the dustbowl.
@@nedhill1242 I’m 100% right. What we do is so insignificant to the greater market, the big shots could give 2 sh1ts about us. But a 500’cow conventional dairy, 2 miles down the road from one of my all grass dairies that made fun of me when I had 50 cows, and now have 5000 total. THEY WISH I WAS DEAD!
I thought the Trump administration was all about deregulating. Making the government smaller means appointing people to do it.
I'm thrilled that there is a focus on getting America healthier.
I disagree with Joel in so far as.. the government is unfortunately the best way to get horrible chemicals and garbage out of our food.
Agree 100% with everything you said. I get a ton of push back from everyone right and left when I mention any of this
@@masonbaylorbears who is giving you pushback on the right? Most conservative and libertarian parents want to homestead at homeschool or wish they could so where exactly are you getting pushback from the right? Be specific.
@nedhill1242 I'm not debating anything so not going to waste a ton of time explaining. I just have rarely someone agree with me on these topics and I'm in Texas so alot if not all the people i talk to are on the right. I consider myself on the right. Convos generally go they thing something is bad and you suggest getting rid of it and then they respond well you can't just get rid of it. You ask why not and they reply someone could do X that doesnt align with what they think. So most people are only libertarian with their own beliefs and want everyone else's controlled by the govt. That goes for FDA type rules, HOA type control, School, etc..
@@masonbaylorbears
I live in South Carolina and it’s the exact opposite. If you’re a conservative if you’re a libertarian and you believe in the constitution, then you understand that over 90 if not over 95% of what the federal government does is unconstitutional. It’s why the founding fathers would actually love most of project 2025. There is some dumb shit in it for sure. But they want to get rid of most of the federal government, which is on constitutional and the founding fathers would love it. The part that I think is stupid is they want to keep the department of Homeland security and put all this stuff underneath DHS. Hell no. That and the department of education and department of interior and the EPA and almost all of these Parts of the federal government if not, all of them should be erased.
Constitution did three things. Outlined destruction of the federal government. Severely restrict and limit the power of the federal government to foreign policy, which is completely controlled by the president by the way, which is why Trump is right about generals being loyal. The president unilaterally controls foreign policy in America. The president is the commander in chief. If a general doesn’t do what the president says, they can be arrested and thrown in jail for insubordination. They absolutely are supposed to be loyal. It’s called a chain of command. He is the commander in chief. Do what he says or Get Court, Marshall. It’s really that simple. Truman fired two of the most popular and greatest generals in American history. Patton and MacArthur.
So, outlined the structure of the federal government, interstate commerce, foreign policy. Everything else is to be done by the states. Federal income taxes the federal reserve the FDA all of that USDA. It’s all unconstitutional.
I’m so far to the right I’m basically an anarchist. Barr extremism is anarchy. Which is grossly misunderstood. Not fascism. Not authoritarianism. People that have authoritarian leanings on the right are actually not conservatives as a libertarians. They’re fundamentalist and when you start talking to them, you realize their motivated by some weird religious thing and not the constitution and not conservative or libertarian values. Fascism is absolutely a left-wing ideology. The Nazis were socialist. There are plenty of very well respected academics on TH-cam explaining in detail exactly why and how fascism is left-wing because it is collectivist it is authoritarian and unlike other left-wing ideologies you don’t need to own the means of production if you can control it is what is today. China moved away from communism and really has more of a fascist economy and government today. Look at 1930s Germany. An extreme version of capitalism the federal government and regulations created all these multinational companies. Created too big to fail. Created all of the monopolies and oligarchs we have today. We have an extreme form of Cron capitalism that is by definition fascist. We have had free market in prize, free market capitalism or anything close to real democracy since the early 1900s.
So I don’t know what people you’re talking to, but they don’t understand civics and they damn sure I don’t understand the constitution or what the founding fathers created and intended. Tell him to actually read the constitution and read the federalist papers. Maybe start my reading, an elementary civics book. The conservatives and libertarians I know here in South Carolina are well informed, and they can’t stand the government. Actually, there is a suburb of Atlanta where 100% of everything is privatized. There have been booked written about it. It is literally an anarchist city. It proves it can be done even at the local level. they don’t have elected officials other than a few elected city council people, but they don’t call that because they don’t meet very often and people vote on most everything.
absolutely - "in with the new boss, same as the old boss". it's power of course, we vote for people who get power and we go home thinking we have power?! I' lived through the 60s and 70s and they knew all this and were hounded by Nixon, My own work is education, i have a presentation on "What if there was only one concept to learn? what if we were born knowing it? the concept is symmetry - the unity of opposites, it means not only do we already know the basics of a whole curriculum we are wired that way, body and mind
ThankQ
We the people with Reliance on Divine Providence is the answer. Let me explain, we have 350 million people in our country there needs to be a systems in place to help out all the people. I call it the 80/20 rule, 20% of people are independent enough take care of ourselves/ neighbors on our homesteads. 80% have to support everything else and live in towns and cities. I believe the Amish have a very good system. It starts off with the family, then, community and then to the state. But if we the people do not hold the system accountable and the people we asked to run that system, then this is the true problem. From the beginning God set up a system, it was We the People that abused or misused that system. I understand we will not change the system overnight, but it must start somewhere & someone has to be in charge we can slowly, but surely re-implement proper systems to make it work and then hold those accountable that we elect. Be self-sufficient, help your neighbor and then hold the system, no matter what level local, state, federal an churches accountable. The two greatest Commandments> love God with all your heart soul and mind and your neighbor likewise
Please tell me how you envision a "government-free healthcare system", and how that doesn't lead to the death and suffering of countless citizens.
I prefer some government intervention if it keeps our food safe instead of allowing big agro and big pharma to pollute it. Getting rid of a lot of government intervention is a good start.
You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
I don’t have life insurance however they have incentives are to keep you healthy. Also why should an employer be in charge of getting your health insurance, take taxes out of your paycheck etc?
If corn costs $4xx+ an acre to grow and "Joe" down the road can't afford to pay that because he's a small farmer, he needs the bank to finance his crop but we get the government out of it, who fronts him the capital to keep going? I'll wait while that gets explained to me...BTW I'm a farmer
RFK jr. wants liability for malpractice. Not subsidy’s for nanny state projects.
gotta let people get used to being responsible for their own food choices again.
I am so excited for change and less regulatons. For example, I cannot sell organic apple cider; it must be pastuerized. I can't sell fruits and vegetables to a grocery store. I can't compete with corn and soybean growers. Even if we dropped all subsidies, how can I compete? Say I would like to grow some wheat, maybe buckwheat, maybe rye, etc any organic grain...there is nowhere to sell it. There are lots of places to sell gmo soybeans. Where can I sell my specialty crops?
@kristingoettlicher3503
I'm not sure what state you live. Here in Wisconsin, you can sell your fruits and vegetables to grocery stores, restaurants, food coops, local food distributors to school nutrition programs, farmers markets, CSAs, sell right at your farm. You can also sell meats as long as they are processed and state inspected at the meat locker. Apple cider does have to be pasteurized to sell to the public. Local Apple growers take it to a local processor who has large scale pasteurization and bottle. That fee is relatively low and is passed on to the consumers. Unpasteurized cider can carry health risks: pathogenic E. coli, Salmonella, or parasites like cryptosporidium. No one wants to become ill. Also, Google National Farmers Union to find a local chapter near you. There are many like minded people who are growers and non growers.
Are their not people in our country that need “nanny-like” care?
Just saw the USDA thing. Very happy for you and our nation! God has His hand on you!
What is Nanny State??
I am a Medicare agent! Stay in original Medicare with a Med supp and you won’t have any problems!!! Go anywhere
Is there like this whole company of people working on TH-cam for Ogden Press?
I agree 💯❤😊
Hoping you get another invite for a 3 minute info speech at a trump/rfk town hall…..
I think deregulation of most things is the point…
Like most libertarians you live in a fantasy world. You assume that everyone will be responsible and provide safe food.... so naive.... the reason we have and need regulations is because people are not all responsible. You might sell good raw milk, the guy next door might sell his milk that contain a variety of disease-causing pathogens.
It's not so much that we asked for it, the attorneys offered it or forced it upon us to some degree and we keep feeding them and thanking the police for their services....all for the attorneys.
Afuera! Afuera! Afuera!
#Salatin4DeptofEducation2024
RKJr and a lot of the reg ag comunity like to talk about health, soil and so on and are very shy or completely ignore when it comes to talk about the big elephant in the room that regulations are. And the elephant has grown into a herd of massive mamoths that have stampeed the room and the house long time ago, if they are shy about it they are either complicity or ignorant and should not have a say. Only Joel has consistantly and corageously talked about it for years.
RFK Jr. supports deregulation policies that Salatin supports like the PRIME act 😂. He buys only from local grass farmers and drinks raw milk. I think RFK Jr and Salatin have a lot in common when it comes to agriculture policy
All these
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they are built up like a bad case of dental plaque. 5:27
Remove all government subsidies from Farmers. The best will survive.
@andrewfinch3024
On my opinion, I think the corporate farmers would survive because they have the lowest tax rates and the largest amount of money. Trump lowered their tax rate for 35% to 21% and he's promised to lower it further. Unfortunately, farmers that produce the cleanest and most healthy food will succumb to Big AG. The BEST will be left behind. Small Farmer
What would you do , hosts? Keep all the people sick and obese? Do you think the big foods and pharma can be eliminated on its own?
See the healthy American Peggy Hall, she talks about the wavering of RFK Jr.
MAKE RAW MILK GREAT AGAIN
As long people that produce it follow regulations
@@bipslone8880 WE ARE TIRED OF "REGULATIONS" THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH RAW, HOW NATURE INTENDED
@@PICARDY610 Regulations are the milk needs to be tested for pathogens. I think most people want some testing to ensure the milk is safe and hasn't been contaminated during handling.
@@thisorthat7626 BEEN DRINKING RAW MILK FOR 16 YEARS. 15 MINUTES AFTER SQUEEZED, NEVER HAVE MYSELF OR FAMILY EVER, E V E R HAD A PROBLEM. HEALTHIEST THING ON THE PLANET. REGULATING IT CAUSES THE PROBLEM. MAKE RAW MILK HEALTHY AGAIN! PATHOGENS HA HA HA HA LOLOLOL
A healthy society is not a profitable society
No sound
It's possible to turn your yard into a food forest.
2:29 when their isn’t a “nanny” then that is when tyrants take over.
When you do surgery on cancer you remove the whole tumor not 90%….
And now Joel joins the nanny state???
Vote Trump if you want lower gas prices, lower grocery prices, affordable housing, no crime, & no wars!
I don't think Trump has a say on what wars are fought. Given the current situation the tinder boxes are already lit so it's more about do things remain stable enough for the current fires to be extinguished.
@ Putin would have never gone into Ukraine and Oct 7 never would have happened. Biden Harris admin is weak.
Nothing will be changed, if there's any, it's for the worst,under Trump. His tariffs will make many things expensive + he still want to support Israel's war.
Joel's right, both democrats and republicans are just a nanny states, nothing special. Libertarian party is the way to go if you want to achieve on what you've just said.
3:35 that isn’t causal. Come on be smarter that that!
I hated how stupid people are. They wanted freedom and less government intervention but voted Republicans instead of Libertarian party.
I'm shocked by his attitude. Something needs to be done.
Wow Joel...u definitely lost me on eliminating the public school. We down to earth people growing our own food and just generally " know better" type people R RARE! Most people DEPEND on the public school as bad as some aspects may b ya can't throw the baby out with the bathwater! We just need to do better and everything I do needs improvement so do government systems.
lol wow you are grossly ignorant and misinformed. Joel is 100 percent correct about public education. Good lord do a little research. Kids today are being indoctrinated by the most extreme far left insanity starting in kindergarten. Carter created the DOE in 78 and nationalized the teachers unions and they destroyed education in less than 30 years. Government systems can't be fixed, the are the problem. Have you ever read a civics book, the constitution, or the federalist papers? Clearly not. Even Reagan wanted to kill the DOE.
I am sorry anyone that thinks public schools can be fixed with school boards being in charged of them is part of the problem. The children need parents that take charge of the childrens learning
You’re not a critical thinker. You’re thinking in simplistic binary terms. Homeschooling versus public education. Hell, no! There are infinite choices in between. Your property taxes paid for the public education system. Eliminate public education. Eliminate property taxes. You don’t need vouchers if you eliminate Property taxes. It would be cheaper to send your kids to a private charter school. Cheaper yet and probably the best results places like faith-based Catholic schools. Or better yet get together with people in your subdivision or your local community and create a community based school, sort of like the old one room, school house and higher, excellent teacher that supports your values and real education and critical thank you. And get the parents involved.
@@nedhill1242 oh yes that sounds so wonderful, if only it could happen. Let b real, our nation is made up of people who really do care and can lead that type of idea, but others that either don't care or don't have the time or mental capacity to do that .
I have been around the horn long enough to know it is best to shut one's mouth and lead by example. Telling others how they should think is not going to win anyone over.
Putting yourself in others shoes will get u much further in such things.
@nedhill1242 the hands that rocks the cradles rules the world
I just saw that you are possibly invited to help redirect the USDA? If you accept, I’m sure we will all benefit greatly on all levels! I’d love to help with this project! Please email me!