Blood on the Asphalt: The NASCAR Tire Wars of 1988-89 & 1994

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  • @BuddyMcHoney
    @BuddyMcHoney 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2116

    Credit to Hoosier 16 guys givin goodyear a run is something

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      That was the part I never knew. I bet now they have 30-100 employees.

    • @Brooks22n
      @Brooks22n 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      yes it was david versus goliath , but this video acts like goodyear had 350, 000 workers in its racing department which is ludicrous, you can’t include people that work at goodyear stores or in warehouses or whatever, but obviously Goodyear had way more people in there racing department. It’s funny now All Goodyear racing does now is the Nascar stuff & NHRA. Long gone is Goodyear in World Motorsports & Hoosier is now owned by Continental Tires

    • @KK-ex5zu
      @KK-ex5zu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Hell yeah, the 80's Hoosier days were just a hair before my time. I remember some of the racing and moments but I was only like 5 or 6 years old. The 1994 season I remember it like it was yesterday, I hated to see them leave. But hell yeah, it must of felt like 16 guys taking on the world at the tiny Hoosier plant!

    • @amc401nash6
      @amc401nash6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Goodyear pulled out of sportsman racing years ago to concentrate on the NHRA fuel cars and NASCAR because their primarily interested turned to broadcast exposure for advertising purposes. Actually it has benefited Hoosier admensly being their a small specialty manufacturer who specializes in racing tires, they virtually dominate dirt and other short track racing today because of this. Back in 80's and 90's Goodyear had a strong presence in dirt track racing which cut heavily into Hoosier's sales, now Hoosier has the playing field all to themselves. That's good because unlike Goodyear, they make their living building and selling racing tires.

    • @duke_of_destruction
      @duke_of_destruction 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Instead of the 300 it was the 16 !!!

  • @Cross_Malaki
    @Cross_Malaki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    Honestly, as a Hoosier, it was nice hearing about how some guys from my home state gave Goodyear a run for their money. That said, dear god this video gets depressing fast when you think about how these competitions between companies end up hurting people.

    • @spencergwin9454
      @spencergwin9454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Firestone-Goodyear Tire War was as brutal, if not more so. Given the stock cars of the era weren't in any way safe.

  • @Assassin-eh3du
    @Assassin-eh3du 5 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    “The tire wars are like most other wars nobody won and everybody lost”
    Scary

    • @Assassin-eh3du
      @Assassin-eh3du 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      spam lite yeah they had major balls

    • @LancasterResponding
      @LancasterResponding 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dark

    • @xXJMatherXx
      @xXJMatherXx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wouldn't say that. Competition forces manufactures to improve their product. The question is, was it worth it? Since the deaths that occurred were not Hoosier's fault, it makes the question hard to answer.

    • @Rutherford_Inchworm_III
      @Rutherford_Inchworm_III 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nonsense. Goodyear clearly won, because it was a 1v1 war and Hoosier retreated, leaving 100% of the spoils to the victor. It was certainly an extremely costly victory for Goodyear, and involved many millions of wasted dollars and burnt public relations in the short term war, but as a multinational corporation they were able to play the long game, reinforce their monopoly in NASCAR and quickly recoup their losses in just a few years. They are still flying high as ever. Hoosier went from nothing to the top in no time flat, and their racing tires are still widely used, just not in NASCAR, and their loss to Goodyear did not harm their long term stability, but they'll never have "pole position" for tires again.

    • @jeffcarroll1990shock
      @jeffcarroll1990shock 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      NASCAR is a lot like War. A bunch of old men send young idiots to die

  • @domonkoskelemen6605
    @domonkoskelemen6605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +821

    I'm from Europe so I knew almost nothing about Nascar, but your high quality videos make me think about getting more into it. Thank you for introducing me to this awesome sport!

    • @EmilForsberg_GRYBO
      @EmilForsberg_GRYBO 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's the same for me. I was never really a big nascar fan but his history videos really makes you interested

    • @MrPorsche91730
      @MrPorsche91730 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If you like passing it is the best racing

    • @the_road__warrior6185
      @the_road__warrior6185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Domonkos Kelemen
      I’d Rather you be late to the party instead of not showing up at all..
      The NASCAR you see today is nothing near what it used to be. Most of these drivers today couldn’t hang with the drivers from back in the day.. Dale Earnhardt was one of the best of his era & of all time. I grew up a Jeff Gordon fan tho but I learned to respect The Intimidator’s ability to drive a car.
      There’s so many other drivers I could ramble on about, Cale Yarborough, The Alabama Gang.. Tim Richmond.. That’s what you can do! Just TH-cam : Tim Richmond. Tim passed away the year I was born but the stories I’ve heard my dad & Grandpa talk about when I was a kid, Made me a fan of him.. Any way, Good day to you! Hope you enjoy NASCAR.. Even tho it’s not so good these days.
      Go Kyle Busch #18!! 🏆

    • @DM-qp7do
      @DM-qp7do 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you like door to door racing and strategies that would amaze chess champions...you might dig it bro. So get with it son!..

    • @WASP79
      @WASP79 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I advise against it, but... if you like never ending drama then go for it !

  • @bogus696996
    @bogus696996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +853

    IMAGINE WHAT HOOSIER COULD HAVE PRODUCED HAD THEY HAD EVEN HALF OF GOODYEARS RESOURCES

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Ultimately, Hoosier ended up being the exclusive tire sponsor for the ARCA Series for 21 years. For the 2016 series, Continental (which distributed Hoosier racing tires) rebranded the tires as General Tire, before buying Hoosier outright. Today, the Hoosier brand is only used for the Whelen series, while Continental brands tires for other series as General Tire for ARCA (which was bought by NASCAR in 2018) and other NASCAR series besides Cup, Xfinity, and Trucks.
      As for the Goodyear tire exclusivity...that expires after the 2022 season, and Continental might want to reintroduce the Hoosier brand to the top series.

    • @Slidejob01
      @Slidejob01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Adam Moreira it’s also used for sprint cars

    • @stigrabbid589
      @stigrabbid589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@AEMoreira81 That would be awesome, Hoosier Tire with Continental's resources would be a good replacement for Goodyear, or maybe a 3rd Tire War could happen in 2023?

    • @TheWildChildJr
      @TheWildChildJr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@Slidejob01 Hoosier is basically and undisputed the best Dirt Tire, They hold up well and are easy to burn grooves into. American Racers blow out easily and are just difficult to work with

    • @Slidejob01
      @Slidejob01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Cannizzaro Jr I agree

  • @jhart7304
    @jhart7304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    From personal experience.
    Hoosiers (grooved) we're far superior in my years racing compared to a Goodyear(slick)that was 1" wider.
    Those were the choices we had to run.
    Both were trued and soaked.
    Hoosiers had a much longer life and were much better molds, apparent in the truing process.

    • @christopherwinter2099
      @christopherwinter2099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Ya know why Hoosiers are grooved is because they are mostly used with dirt track cars and Wissota (Minnesota and Wisconsin racin organized) are sponsored by then which is all dirt. Also they make go-cart tires and some Sprint Car tires which are slick the back ones.

    • @ronniemctaggart8722
      @ronniemctaggart8722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christopherwinter2099 my cousin an I have this argument all the time but it's about the dirt tires he says oh Hoosier and I'm the American racer guy I've only ran 1 set of Goodyear's on dirt not a bad tire just way to expensive and no where near the rollout or sidebite of the Hoosier or American racer

    • @christopherwinter2099
      @christopherwinter2099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ronniemctaggart8722 yeah I've seen good sets of Goodyear's in different states but be to expensive to buy and get them as it's easier for either my dad to either just get them shipped to him or just run down to Hoosiers in Rochester,MN

    • @samuelstephen5071
      @samuelstephen5071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Figures Goodyear would make better racing tires. They have the shittiest consumer tires. Shows their research is spent somewhere

    • @bavarianbanshee
      @bavarianbanshee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@samuelstephen5071 Hey, stop stealing comments.

  • @nathanpope4265
    @nathanpope4265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I'm glad to have learned about the history of Hoosier. All I've ever known of them is their complete dominance of the club racing scene. For years they've been touted as the only tire choice if you want to win.

    • @nathanpope4265
      @nathanpope4265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also, I agree with everyone else here. These videos are incredible!

    • @chada75
      @chada75 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the top tire choice for Short track racing.

    • @Corky3D
      @Corky3D 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chada75 Top tire choice for tracks and series, but not all drivers or teams. Me included, at least on the dirt side of things. Personally I'd rather run American Racers, but 90% of the tracks and series around Indiana/Ohio requires Hoosiers.

    • @Uruz2012
      @Uruz2012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      See a lot of them on drag cars of all classes too.

  • @mad87645
    @mad87645 5 ปีที่แล้ว +347

    6:05 Some interesting facts about the Thunderdome (yes it's a great name) and why there's a 1.1 mile, 44,000 seat paved oval track down here in Australia
    The track it's located at (Calder Park) is owned/sponsored by Bob Jane (and now there's some ongoing feud about who owns it since Bob's death but anyway). Bob Jane owned an eponymous tire shop chain down here in Australia that also sells it's own brand of tyres, so Good Year technically got tyre sponsorship rights for an event held at a track that is both owned and sponsored by another tyre maker. Talk about art of the deal.
    The Thunderdome was built for 2 stock car series, NASCAR's Australian series (which used full NASCAR-spec cars and engines, whether imported from the US or made locally) and AUSCAR (also not kidding with the name, which used Australian built road going sedans and 5 litre engines). Goodyear would also have tyre sponsorship rights for both series. As the majority of the NASCAR cars would be imported, at least for the first season, the decision was made to keep all of them in LHD. But the AUSCAR cars, reflecting their Australian roots, would all be in RHD. This meant that the AUSCAR's would be running clockwise (turning right) but NASCAR's would be running counter-clockwise like they normally do, so the Thunderdome would be run in both directions.
    It was also designed as a scaled down version of Charlotte, so it's also a weird shaped quad oval with 2 dog leg corners on the same straight.
    But the AUSCAR series would close after 10 years because the governing body for motorsport here threatened to ban any of it's drivers that competed in it from competing in other series', causing it to lose all it's drivers, and NASCAR here would die not long after but the writing was kinda on the wall for both as attendance/interest had dropped way off. Plus there was only one other paved oval track they could race at, and the other (Adelaide International) was absolute dogshit.

    • @FuddButter
      @FuddButter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      CAMS do love ruining any fun we have here! Destroyed AUSCAR. SST no longer compete here, they have made grassroots motorsport almost impossible due to the costs of events/equipment and all their rules and regs (a lot which are needed)

    • @thatepicperson5208
      @thatepicperson5208 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You also cannot forget that the actual racetrack was shutdown by the newly made housing estates near the reface track as they complained about the noise

    • @celuler22
      @celuler22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@thatepicperson5208 fuck them that track been there longer they shouldnt have moved there they try to shut my local track down every year because my town is expanding that way but the track often keeps a boock bout how many people they bring in and how much tax money they bring in with fuel and other expenses

    • @christiantran8454
      @christiantran8454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I live in Victoria and I've passed that racetrack several times

    • @binto-ht7gz
      @binto-ht7gz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@thatepicperson5208
      Thunderdome: *exists*
      People in new suburbs right next to track: OMG why is it soo loud?? wtf??
      Thunderdome: *surprised pikachu face*

  • @NealB123
    @NealB123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    Nothing wrong with competition. The blood was squarely on NASCAR's head. They didn't set adequate standards for tire design. They fell dangerously behind on the safety curve on car design. Not mandating the use of basic safety devices such as head/neck restraints and full face helmets. Permitting improper installation of seat belts and other safety features. Most of the deaths that occurred during that era would not have occurred had NASCAR simply mandated the proper use all the available safety devices that were available at the time and required in virtually all other types of motorsports.

    • @NickyD
      @NickyD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      that makes sense since dale was wearing a open face until his fatal wreck and when did hans device come out i swear goodyear sucks still today

    • @DevinEMILE
      @DevinEMILE 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Nicky D Dale refused to wear the HAAS device he called it the hangman and was afraid it would cause a broken neck on accident

    • @NealB123
      @NealB123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@DevinEMILE Which is exactly why it should have been mandated by rule and not voluntary.

    • @DinsdalePiranha67
      @DinsdalePiranha67 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      In the period covered by this video, I don't think the HANS device had seen widespread adoption by any racing series.

    • @rickfeith6372
      @rickfeith6372 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That Daytona crash is still a head scratcher. Physics is a game of millimeters and micro angles.

  • @f4fwildcat29
    @f4fwildcat29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    That old school ESPN CGI is amazing

    • @jcwebb540
      @jcwebb540 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The excitement of hearing that music and seeing that graphic. Childhood memories...

    • @tombodoquentin1670
      @tombodoquentin1670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Old NASCAR Is Amazing

    • @nascarboi2411
      @nascarboi2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes

    • @Hollywood49
      @Hollywood49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jcwebb540 I lived for Sunday at noon and that ESPN Speedworld theme song.

  • @davidkerr4374
    @davidkerr4374 5 ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Dude... You need to do this for a living. Your voice is perfect for this. I am a from New Zealand. And have followed motorsport from the US for over 30 years. It's very easy to listen to. And I love your accent. Keep it up mate! Cheers from 'Kiwiland'.

    • @christenn32
      @christenn32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks for being a fan of NASCAR! I enjoy seeing fans from outside the U.S. enjoying the sport.

    • @loutenant9480
      @loutenant9480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agree, i'm from eastern europe, and i'm following nascar since my childhood, love the channel of this guy too.

    • @benis4958
      @benis4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christenn32im in Ireland and I love NASCAR

  • @user-cs3zs6jn1d
    @user-cs3zs6jn1d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I learned a lot watching this video. Never knew how small Hoosier tire was as a company. And managed to give probably the biggest tire manufacturer a huge run for the money. Well done Hoosier...well done

  • @uhhhhhmax6070
    @uhhhhhmax6070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    So I live near the Hoosier factories and I play baseball at a place called Newton park which was funded by the company. So cool how part of nascar history is where I play baseball!!

  • @adamclarke7394
    @adamclarke7394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Great video. For those that don't know, the Thunderdome was built in Melbourne by a gentleman by the name of Bob Jane. He built the entire complex using his own money, and it was a successful venture for many years. It was actually the first dedicated NASCAR track built outside the USA. Bob Jane passed away in September 2018. Sadly, by that stage, the Thunderdome hadn't seen any NASCAR competition for many years, and the complex is now derelict. It is the sad end to a great dream by an individual who did more for the Australian motor racing scene than any other single person.

    • @caseysmith544
      @caseysmith544 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought the the V 12 Australian series, Australia's Version of NASCAR was racing there?

    • @adamclarke7394
      @adamclarke7394 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Casey smith, unfortunately, our Australian series, known as Supercars, don't run there. The complex actually has the NASCAR tri-oval, a regular race circuit, and a drag strip. Bob Jane had a number of run-ins over the years with the sports FIA-affiliated governing body, CAMS. The entire complex gets very little use, and with Mr. Jane's passing and the way the suburbs are beginning to encroach on the place, I suspect that the site will probably be sold and redeveloped in the near future. It will be a shame if this happens, as that complex represents a significant slice of Australian motor-sport history. Not only did Bob run NASCAR, drag racing, and circuit racing, but in the 1970s, he also had rallycross running there. Before Australia secured a round of the Formula 1 World Championship in 1985, the Australian Grand Prix was held there. The race was conducted initially for Formula 5000 cars, then Formula Pacific. He paid for drivers like Alain Prost, Niki Lauda, Keke Rosberg, and Alan Jones to compete in the Formula Pacific cars. One year he even paid to bring part of the Williams Formula 1 team, the then reigning champion, Alan Jones, and the Williams FW07 out to compete. The man was a visionary, and we will probably never see his like again in Australia.
      On a separate note, Supercars use a 5-litre V8 engine (Ford, Chevrolet, or Nissan). They are similar to NASCAR insofar as the chassis and roll-cage is a control item, with a combination of steel and composite body panels which represent the different eligible models (Holden Commodore, Nissan Altima, and Ford Mustang). They use a 6-speed transaxle driving the rear wheels. They run on a control Dunlop tyre, and the equivalency across the brands is heavily policed.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A toast 🥂 to the Thunderdome! What A Day, What a Lovely Day

    • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
      @skaldlouiscyphre2453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bob Jane used to race a 7 litre ZL-1 Camaro and I've always wanted to know how fast it would have been vs. one of the Penske Trans-Am Camaros. It has a lot more engine, but afaik Trans-Am cars were a little more developed chassis-wise compared to international touring cars, with more substantial roll cages similar to contemporary Grand National and Grand American cars.

  • @1lostmuffin
    @1lostmuffin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Motorsports even makes tires interesting! Awesome video S1ap, grats on 3k subs!

    • @S1apShoes
      @S1apShoes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks, man! You've been here since the beginning. Glad I'm doing you proud/

  • @Ob1tuber
    @Ob1tuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    S1ap: Talks about a tire war in NASCAR
    TH-cam: how about an ad for Firestone
    Me: you’ve got to be f’ing kidding me

  • @WilcovdSteen
    @WilcovdSteen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have never seen a Nascar race in my life but I do love history. These mini-documentaries are amazing. The quality is outstanding and the stories told are incredibly interesting. I have subscribed and am looking forward to the next one!

  • @htms2855
    @htms2855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Video: talks about the tire wars with Firestone vs Goodyear.
    Ad: Firestone
    Me: this is the end of humanity isnt it

    • @oreolol8489
      @oreolol8489 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I got the same ad that was weird

    • @VenkCutterman
      @VenkCutterman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Max Reed So did I

    • @Derivedwhale45
      @Derivedwhale45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here.

    • @Rick1984FL
      @Rick1984FL 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whatever you drive, drive a Firestone*
      *but only if it’s an INDYCAR no more stock cars
      Seriously though Firestone’s “premier” tire is the Indy 500. Normally the pace car off the Indy 500 is a corvette...
      Yet currently I can’t get Firestone’s that fit my corvette. #1stworld problems

    • @ThePhoenixWylde
      @ThePhoenixWylde 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 months later and I get Hancook tyre ad.

  • @brandanhall9943
    @brandanhall9943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's only fitting to be recommended this after the catastrophe of race at Texas yesterday

  • @averyhage4254
    @averyhage4254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Dude, I sincerely hope you keep making these videos because you are like the KTO of NASCAR. Amazing work!

    • @Jame5man
      @Jame5man 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He's the Jon Bois of NASCAR

    • @samuel_samuel_samuel_samuel
      @samuel_samuel_samuel_samuel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Avery Hage did you make that reference because of the outro song?

    • @samuel_samuel_samuel_samuel
      @samuel_samuel_samuel_samuel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reason I ask is because I was gonna make a reference to KTO too.

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KTO and this guy did the things that they talk about which means they know what they are doing (this guys uncle and Grandfather were racers and KTO played football)

  • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
    @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Interesting stuff. I work at a coal processing facility in WV we make the filler material that firestone/Bridgestone uses in their tires, we also sell to Toyo, Sumitomo, Pirelli, Continental, and Cooper tire, we used to sell our product to Goodyear but they bowed out, they want our product again but we can’t manage their strict guidelines so we are in the process of getting our facility refurbished so we can sell to them again. Kinda cool to think that we would help make some NASCAR tires again, I also feel inclined to always cheer for the racing teams of any racing sport that uses our tire brands. I also say that if you want an American made tire, buy a set of toyo tires from Japan because they have WV coal in them

    • @geyotepilkington2892
      @geyotepilkington2892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is the filler made out of/what does it consist of?

    • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
      @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Geyote Pilkington the filler is made out of coal, 100% coal dust ground down to the consistency of baby powder and is filled in plastic or paper valve bags, stacked on a pallet, wrapped and loaded onto a truck or shipping container and sent domestic or international, absolutely filthy work but it pays good

    • @ChrisJ-mf7cj
      @ChrisJ-mf7cj 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s neat as hell to learn. Yet another great reason to keep open and open more coal! Hope you guys and your community is doing ok with all the political winds of change and climate BS.

    • @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
      @loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ChrisJ-mf7cj strangely enough coal business is doing alright, new plants being built for processing the coal from the mines new tipple being built to load trains, the thing killing us is what’s killing everyone else right now and it’s this terrible government and the economy it destroyed and also not helping that we can’t get containers from port brought in because of labor disputes, boycotts, China’s lockdown and the general shortage of equipment like the chassis that are used to carry containers OTR, domestic shipping has gone on like normal but the overseas/international shipping has tanked and we gained a new customer but didn’t get Goodyear which I’m glad we didn’t partially with the current new customer we wouldn’t have been able to keep up with the production necessities

    • @rodneyproductions5044
      @rodneyproductions5044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 where do you live in West Virginia

  • @AlcoLoco251
    @AlcoLoco251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude, your videos are awesome. As a somewhat rookie NASCAR fan, I'm loving these historical videos you're making. They give me insight on how NASCAR came to be and why it's so popular. Keep up the awesome work.

  • @redram5150
    @redram5150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    Figures Goodyear would make better racing tires. They have the shittiest consumer tires. Shows their research is spent somewhere

    • @lukeriddle5494
      @lukeriddle5494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      their short track tires are garbage as well, hoosier pretty much owns that market

    • @DDS029
      @DDS029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      The only thing "good" I've ever seen with the Goodyear name on it was their jackets.

    • @DDS029
      @DDS029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I used to be a hat guy, but not so much now. Plus I've still got Hoosier hats I haven't worn out yet . . . 😝

    • @redram5150
      @redram5150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      The only thing that holds air is their fucking blimp

    • @RingoYote
      @RingoYote 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yokohama or bust for street tires.

  • @the_road__warrior6185
    @the_road__warrior6185 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A non generic NASCAR video. Refreshing, Highly interesting & a video one could watch a few times. Just because it’s old content in a new format. Excellent video. Needless to say you’ve got another subscriber for sure, Bro.

  • @mc4820
    @mc4820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just stumbled on your channel and after watching this vid I clicked on the videos tab expecting hours of NASCAR content because of how professional and well made these videos are, subbed for more of this good ass content, I grew up on these stories and love learning about them :)

  • @charliechaplin852
    @charliechaplin852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2022: Is ending in 5 months
    Me: TIRE WAR YEAH MURICA BABY

  • @TiberianFiend
    @TiberianFiend 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I never thought I would find an 18 minute documentary on tires interesting.

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    1:00
    Random guy: "Hey you, what the (censored) are you doing to my car?!
    Random Driver: " My tires are getting shredded, mind if I barrow yours?"
    Random Guy: "???"

    • @bluecollarlit
      @bluecollarlit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I was picturing that as well, when narrator told that part.

    • @MirzaAhmed89
      @MirzaAhmed89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *borrow

  • @saintsfan270
    @saintsfan270 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    This video gives me Jon Bois vibes especially because of the music. Absolutely love it, keep it it.

    • @Visurient
      @Visurient 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the same thing lol

  • @ryanperez4697
    @ryanperez4697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 2022 Autotrader EchoPark Automotive 500 really looking like the 1988 World 600 right about now

  • @Whyzee12
    @Whyzee12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Best NASCAR videos on youtube right now. Insane high quality content. Keep em coming please!

  • @vintvarner16
    @vintvarner16 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Timestamp 6:50....5 manufacturers and it's split pretty evenly....love seeing that. I want to see more manufacturers in NASCAR, I don't care if Honda, Hyundai, Acura, would love to see Dodge back, would be awesome if Buick could develop a car to run.

  • @mks913
    @mks913 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome narration and storytelling. Your videos are by far the best NASCAR content on YT. I remember that ‘94 race pretty clearly. Dad and I went to Atlanta every year from 88-03, sometimes one, sometimes both races. He grew up in Daytona watching them on the sand and track and introduced me young to it. Reliving some of those old battles and storylines through your videos is just plain fun. Thanks for the content!

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Racing is not a destination, it’s an experience... plus, you get to Finally pass traffic

  • @jimbo-fk4dq
    @jimbo-fk4dq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I do remember Tony Stewart some time ago, being upset over Goodyear Tires. It would be interesting if another tire war came about.

    • @SilvioManfredDante85
      @SilvioManfredDante85 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He also suggested that they give Hoosier another try,!

    • @affandi99
      @affandi99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or try Michelin or Firestone 😂😂

    • @curtislynch8189
      @curtislynch8189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Bridgestone/Firestone would take Goodyear’s lunch money if they got into NASCAR.

    • @aidanztrainsnthingz
      @aidanztrainsnthingz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he ripped goodyear a new one because the tires were bad, then said he was going home and putting firestones on everything if I recall.

    • @timothydubois5834
      @timothydubois5834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@aidanztrainsnthingz I remember that. It was Indy. The tires were failing after 10 laps!

  • @forcingfate
    @forcingfate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've watched Nascar randomly throughout the years. Bought Nascar Heat 4 and was really excited for the season after Daytona. I'm ignorant to the history of Nascar. Love these videos man.
    Excellent work 👌

  • @JJ_Skippy
    @JJ_Skippy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love watching documentaries filled to the brim with facts and information! You sir certainly fall into that category!

  • @stayoffthemarbles6790
    @stayoffthemarbles6790 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Serious story my friend, I started watching NASCAR because of your vids. I used to just like open wheel Racing, but after watching the history vids on your channel, I started following NASCAR this year, and I am really enjoying it. Keep up the great stuff.

  • @michaelwhite278
    @michaelwhite278 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have one of Geoff's tires from the '94 season, as well as a restrictor plate from his Thunderbird, both autographed. It would be nice to have Hoosier return and keep Goodyear honest again, but I doubt NASCAR will allow it.

  • @jebedmondson6428
    @jebedmondson6428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    love this video man, you're basically the jon bois of nascar

    • @uwlwsrpm
      @uwlwsrpm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still waiting for S1ap's Sandwich Shop.

  • @ClaireBear8686
    @ClaireBear8686 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This is like SB Nation for nascar. Great content, keep it up!

  • @marriedwithguns3051
    @marriedwithguns3051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now an interesting thing has occurred in the dirt track sprint car world. Goodyear who had the tire of choice for many years is now playing second fiddle to Hoosier for well over a decade due to the incompetence of Goodyear in producing a quality tire for winged sprint cars. In 2010 Goodyear managed to negotiate a contract to be the "spec tire" for the Knoxville Nationals which I remember vividly as 4 nights of tire failures of many types. That all culminated with Sammy Swindell, seeking his first Nationals victory since 1983, exploding a left rear with only a few laps remaining.
    Anyway great video about the tire wars of the past. I just wanted to add that little anecdote to show that while Goodyear became the sole tire of choice in NASCAR, they later would fail in another division of racing.

  • @timcervantes2957
    @timcervantes2957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have to say i love the history videos you do. Fairly brisk, good details, and always show how the sport got from where it was to where it is.
    I would love to see (not sure if you’ve done one or not) about how the points changed. What tv deals, sponsorship, and etc went into the changes

  • @bodvarson1933
    @bodvarson1933 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strange to hear a town I grew up very close to, and where one of my parents is from, in Indiana, mentioned by a guy who lives in Greenville SC, where I later moved to, in a TH-cam video. Its kinda trippy.

  • @randyhutchinson9910
    @randyhutchinson9910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've ran on Hoosier tires, at dirt tracks, and won, never had a problem

    • @boltracing4856
      @boltracing4856 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Randy Hutchinson I guess they got there s*** together because I have a friend who DOMINATES go karting

    • @Blossomy77
      @Blossomy77 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boltracing4856 good job your friend didnt run michellen tires or hed be out befor the race had even begun
      (Did you get the reference)

    • @Ob1tuber
      @Ob1tuber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I get a car (and start modifying it) I will probably use Hoosiers because they are still running to this day and they look good

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I might as well eventually too

  • @CCT1
    @CCT1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:07 Watching this in 2022! Damn a lot has changed...

  • @ValleyCustoms
    @ValleyCustoms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm not a NASCAR fan, but your presentation of the material is still very interesting. Great Content! Keep up the good work, I cant wait to see your next video. Subbed.

  • @BreathMint2008
    @BreathMint2008 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow. i’ve never really been a huge race fan, but i’ve been to a handful of small town races and watched them on tv. why did i just watch 20 minutes of a tire war in Nascar? because your commentary and recap of that 50+ year feud was awesome, definitely subscribing! keep up this amazing work dude!

  • @johnfitzgerald4456
    @johnfitzgerald4456 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video young man. I was a Nascar fan back in the 90's and early 00's. I miss the old days at Tracks like Martinsville, Dover and Bristol with the bumping and trading of paint.

  • @iannolan7326
    @iannolan7326 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New favorite channel. You really have a knack for weaving stories and keeping things fresh and engaging.

  • @brandonhightower5666
    @brandonhightower5666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So much work goes into these and it's nice to see someone put in that time to do something correctly. Top shelf content, thank you.

  • @Mo_Ketchups
    @Mo_Ketchups 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m not a NASCAR guy & have no idea how this wound up in my feed, but I’m damn glad it did. What a great, well-written/-produced piece!!
    👏👏

  • @---qg6nq
    @---qg6nq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the nod using the same music that Jon Bois does, you're a top tier creator mate hope you make it big

  • @johnhullinger1635
    @johnhullinger1635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I’d love to see a follow-up comparing it with the Goodyear/Firestone tire war in IndyCar/CART in the mid-late 90’s. Firestone absolutely kicked Goodyear’s butts. And I have no doubt that’s why Goodyear rushed to sign that exclusivity deal with NASCAR.

  • @Kill3rGr1zzly
    @Kill3rGr1zzly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    8:29 love the Trigun music! :D

  • @flukey5238
    @flukey5238 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the way from Australia and your videos have got me back into oval racing and nascar, thank you so much

  • @slyguythreeonetwonine3172
    @slyguythreeonetwonine3172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Nobody:
    Absolutely Nobody:
    Hoosier: wAnT sOme tIres?!

  • @darthnick1412
    @darthnick1412 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    S1ap you’ve done it. You’ve got me hooked to nascar and I can’t get myself away from it. Thank you for my new addiction

  • @RB-tt2bw
    @RB-tt2bw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As of October 2016, Continental Tire now owns Hoosier Racing Tire, about four years after the passing of Bob Newton. It will be interesting to see if Continental/Hoosier Tire will take a shot at NASCAR once again for the 2023 Season.

    • @jackthorton10
      @jackthorton10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here’s hoping another tire war doesn’t kick off in that season

  • @Landmasters
    @Landmasters 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh my...we're at the end of 2022.
    I haven't seen any news of NASCAR reinstating that exclusivity deal...it's probably nothing but there is a bit of anxiety in my chest

  • @boomy776
    @boomy776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I race Hoosier Tires on late models and modifieds. I ran ONE set of GoodYears and had a blowout.

  • @BCanterbury42
    @BCanterbury42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your documentaries are so much more detailed and better all around than anything the multimillion networks make

  • @doccatface6868
    @doccatface6868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After you and emps vids, i now wear my dad's old intimidator hat
    i get what he loved about the sport thatnks to you fine storytellers, it allowed me to connect with part of a dude i wish I had more time with.
    Racing slaps.

    • @joeyjohnson4826
      @joeyjohnson4826 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats cool story.... sr was one of a kind.. but that was the golden year when NASCAR was big but not too big. It was fun. That's awesome you connected with your dad threw his hero

  • @wardlockhart1522
    @wardlockhart1522 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do I like something more than once because this video deserves a million likes.

  • @eggi576
    @eggi576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who else thought of this video after Larry Mac mentioned the Bias Ply Tire during the Bristol dirt race...

  • @KaoruSF
    @KaoruSF 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome video man, very well made and put together keep it up!

  • @ljgarrison6910
    @ljgarrison6910 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best channel for Nascar on youtube, the production quality is better than anything on the box

  • @captainkarter2478
    @captainkarter2478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have hardly know anything about the NASCAR world (Euro touring and F1 instead) but I truly took a lot of interest in this. Brilliantly made documentary.

  • @John-tx1wk
    @John-tx1wk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was at the October 1994 North Wilkesboro race. Bodine had lapped the field by I think the halfway mark, or shortly thereafter. He had to have led at least 300 laps, he just walked away from everyone else. Or at least as much as one can walk away from everyone else on a short track. What I most remember was there was hardly any cautions until towards the end and when there was one the MRN radio guy (Eli Gold?) would say, "The leaders can pit now...and here he comes". My favorite driver, Terry Labonte, came in 2nd.

    • @S1apShoes
      @S1apShoes  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      “The leaders can pit now. And here he comes.” 😂 What a great call

  • @dre32pitt
    @dre32pitt ปีที่แล้ว

    Not a huge NASCAR fan, but into cars.. movies too.. so when I heard the 'heist theme' from Heat, I exclaimed, lol. Great stuff!!

  • @minioozy4459
    @minioozy4459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the use of trigun music , I am really enjoying your channel, keep it up!!

  • @aaronbarkley539
    @aaronbarkley539 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im an endurance racing fan and F1 fan but i have alot of respect for NASCAR and it’s great history. Thanks for bringing it in such a good format.

  • @lolbr3720
    @lolbr3720 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank's for tellin like it is. I've alway's known that tire tech was playing catch up in every motor sport. You are able to spell it out, simple & to the point. We need more like you. Hoosier forced Goodyear to step up their game. Competition with positive result's. Without this, nothing changes.

  • @danesorensen1775
    @danesorensen1775 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for giving some of the context around the Thunderdome race. Here in Australia we mostly hear about our own drivers who competed in it - Dick Johnson, Allan Grice, blokes like that. Neil Bonnett and Bobby Allison, the guys who fought all day over the win, are usually just random names to us, so thanks for helping fill in who they were. I had no idea Bonnett died so soon after that win. That puts a dark spin on a familiar race.

  • @de-fault_de-fault
    @de-fault_de-fault ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Leo Mehl would be similarly mealy-mouthed a few years later when Firestone went back to Indy and started kicking Goodyear’s ass around the block. Seeing a kindred spirit in someone else hated by most of the racing world, Tony George gave him a high ranking job at the IRL.

  • @WillCFarmer
    @WillCFarmer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You've got the best nascar videos on TH-cam, and got excited when I saw this one, keep it up :-)

  • @Ed-om9xy
    @Ed-om9xy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even follow NASCAR, and I love your vids dude. This is how the NFL roped me in too originally - the films stuff. And yours is way better. Really well done

  • @Hammerhead547
    @Hammerhead547 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The funny thing is that now Hoosier could actually pull off being a secondary tire supplier for nascar because they have the backing of Continental and their tires would most likely either be based on tires continental designed for a similar series or they would just be re-badged continentals.

    • @DDS029
      @DDS029 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ARCA Generals are the Hoosiers of days past, with the newer technology incorporated as time went on. Continental owns General. Their relationship dates back a few years to the late 80's. Hoosier made General racing tires for the CASCAR Super Series (now NASCAR's Canadian Pinty's Series). In turn General made a Hoosier branded street tire.

  • @SharpeRacing
    @SharpeRacing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hearing this story years after I began racing with Hoosier kart tires last year really brings to light the journey that they have gone through. I might not be a Hoosier loyalist, but I do enjoy seeing up starts take it to the big leagues and give bigger companies a run for their money. I’m sure Goodyear has owed a good bit of grown from those Hoosiers. And I look forward to seeing where my story and theirs will intersect in my journey through motorsports.
    Hoosier R80s are what I race with at the point I made this comment. I might run R70s and R60s in future regional series and events.

  • @danielaponte95
    @danielaponte95 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still listening while I work; love these stories.

  • @CaptPatrick01
    @CaptPatrick01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Tire wars 2023: Hoosier tries their hands at NASCAR again. Same old blowouts like the last two times...
    *WHEN SUDDENLY SURPRISE **_YOKOHAMA_** ENTRY OUT OF NOWHERE!* TOTAL EPIC DOMINATION!
    Causes Goodyear lawsuit that results in Yokohama getting banned from the sport and gives controversy channels discussion material for _weeks!_

    • @philipottey7723
      @philipottey7723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR picks BF Goodrich, Cooper, Pirelli, Michelin, Nitto, MT, Toyo, or Continental(General tire) out of a hat for tomorrow's tire war

  • @natecrosbie9516
    @natecrosbie9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live near Hoosier tires, I live about 20 minutes away from the place and I live 10 minutes away from a person in NHRA

  • @JacobYoung060
    @JacobYoung060 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I neither knew nor cared about NASCAR history until I started watching these videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @maxversthappening8166
    @maxversthappening8166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I race Hoosiers in karting and I have found they are awesome. Still make good tires to this day. Obviously, this was under some very different circumstances in a different era of tires

  • @chuckgilly
    @chuckgilly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, thanks for the trip back back in time, good'ol tar wars.

  • @iamnitrox
    @iamnitrox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Found this channel randomly. Loving the history lessons and tech talk

  • @HEATRACER24
    @HEATRACER24 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very refreshing look at the tire wars, thank you very much for this video!

  • @nestorvallejo51
    @nestorvallejo51 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are great! I know production on these must take a pretty long time but man I wish there was more, keep up the great work pal

  • @Boeing--dz7zr
    @Boeing--dz7zr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like these mini-doc style vids you do

  • @privateparty4900
    @privateparty4900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:26 - Ha, that yoinked Trigun theme.

  • @BackiNator123
    @BackiNator123 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea about NASCAR, never even know anything about it but knowing the name. but catching myself watching the 5th vid. You make it sound super interesting. nice vids

  • @mozata6838
    @mozata6838 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Found this channel by chance. I don't even watch NASCAR, but holy shit this is engaging! It's not hard to tell you borrow a bit of your presentation style from SB Nation and Jon Bois, but you clearly know your stuff as well. I'd love to see your channel grow. Make videos that make you proud!

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wonder if part of the reason for Geoff Bodine sticking with Hoosier for so long in 1994 was because of the desire to not have to weigh up safety over speed for his own team, staying with the tyres they started with and trying their best to make it work (even though it meant finishing the year 17th in points with an average finish of 21.3)

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, well presented, informative, interesting, and great clip editing... you're on your way to 500k subs if you keep these up!

  • @topher9671
    @topher9671 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love these videos. Had to hit the bell because I don’t want to miss them

  • @saylemwitch
    @saylemwitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos. They are great to listen to when im racing online

  • @brimtime8117
    @brimtime8117 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man your videos are awesome, you really do your homework and tell it perfectly.

  • @J4M1FY
    @J4M1FY 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    “The tire wars are like most other wars nobody won and everybody lost”
    Imagine how much damage Hoosier could have done if they had the supplies that Goodyear had.

    • @limpetarch98k
      @limpetarch98k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All they needed was to beat Goodyear at their own game with the radials and it would have put the big boys down for good.

  • @scottt3100
    @scottt3100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How would one determine that a broken shock mount caused an accident AFTER the accident? And on both cars? Who did the investigation on those fatal accidents? The Warren Commission?

  • @AustinLaPlante
    @AustinLaPlante 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am so glad I subscribe to this channel. It was well worth it.

  • @Kikker861
    @Kikker861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Feels like a documentary. Fantastic.