with the new talents every main except for battle staff/cannon deals does more proc dmg than staff. if you are level 180 at least. I honestly don't know what is better. I have never put any stones on a staff. what you "need" (in my opinion you do not need either) depends on how you will use the staff: if you play a lot around your main procs then the int will help increase the dmg by a little bit. if you play with blazing earth a lot the att should do more then the int
@@atlanticaepidemie80 i see Lvl169 staffs procing for 180k with skater board, i changed to staff and only proc 93k, with the same mount. Difference is just 3k int (judge/twilight gear) No stones at all. I'm wondering eagles or whale stones ...
@@BastivanDero I assume the difference comes from att buffs. to make a real comparison both need the same % att. the int does not do a lot. I made a video on proc dmg in general and how to increase it where I explain that stuff more.
how so? both staff mains obviously have the battle magic talent but that clearly says it increases spell damage by 25%. while technically it might not be spell damage I can see that being legit... spell reflex does not increase the proc dmg. maybe burst magic? or am I missing something?
@@atlanticaepidemie80 The lvl 150 one Tip the Scales: You twist the flow of magic in your favor, decreasing hostile spell effects while improving beneficial magic effects. Decreases hostile magic effects by 50 (PvE/TBS) | 15 (FL PvP) | 5 (CL PvP) % and increases beneficial magic effects by 100 (PvE/TBS) | 25 (FL PvP) | 10 (CL PvP) %.
@@miyoownz12 I will definitely try that one, thanks. It's so weird to me how that stuff works. with this one I can kinda see it since it says "increases beneficial magic effects". the bow talent still makes no sense to me. even though spell reflex also says "and its effects are increased", and it doesn't increase anything... so I guess magic effects counts and effects not lol. If it works I'll probably make a video to update everyone
since the release of the new talents this video doesn't really mean anything anymore. because this talent is so strong they just gave it to every main (except for cannon and the mages). so yea, every main can now do the same dmg with procs (if you are high enough level)
lots of informations as always in the description if anyone shouldn't notice (don't want to write it in the title everytime :/) if you know anything interesting or you are wondering about something specific let me know so I can find out more about it and share the results. I personally find stuff like this video really insightful but I don't have an unlimited amout of ideas so feel free to share yours
@@hongnamnguyen1993 yea, seems so. IMO that doesn't really make sense though. or am I missing something?^^ "Increases any Attack Power buffs you receive by xxx", maybe it's the translation but that seems odd to me. this is the sole reason sooo many people feel forced to play bow main.. because it's so busted.
Well, Atlantica since Hangame has always been sketchy in term of coding and description so I think it was a coding mistake registering mount procs as attk buff but eventually got ignored and accepted as a feature.
@@hongnamnguyen1993 maybe I should mention it to a GM and it can get fixed. but I would assume the devs already know.. or I would hope xD what do you mean with "J"?
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What is better, attack power or int starstones in the staff weapon?
It's somehow riddiculus bow proc deals more damage as staff
with the new talents every main except for battle staff/cannon deals does more proc dmg than staff. if you are level 180 at least. I honestly don't know what is better. I have never put any stones on a staff. what you "need" (in my opinion you do not need either) depends on how you will use the staff: if you play a lot around your main procs then the int will help increase the dmg by a little bit. if you play with blazing earth a lot the att should do more then the int
@@atlanticaepidemie80 i see Lvl169 staffs procing for 180k with skater board, i changed to staff and only proc 93k, with the same mount.
Difference is just 3k int (judge/twilight gear)
No stones at all.
I'm wondering eagles or whale stones ...
@@BastivanDero I assume the difference comes from att buffs. to make a real comparison both need the same % att. the int does not do a lot. I made a video on proc dmg in general and how to increase it where I explain that stuff more.
I heard this works for Atlantian Battlemage.
whole bunch of ppl in NA started doing it
how so? both staff mains obviously have the battle magic talent but that clearly says it increases spell damage by 25%. while technically it might not be spell damage I can see that being legit... spell reflex does not increase the proc dmg. maybe burst magic? or am I missing something?
doesnt staff main have a similar talent to the bow one? do you know if its bugged as well?
if you tell me which one I can try. I'm only aware of the battle magic talent that increases the dmg which seems legit to me from the description
@@atlanticaepidemie80
The lvl 150 one
Tip the Scales: You twist the flow of magic in your favor, decreasing hostile spell effects while improving beneficial magic effects.
Decreases hostile magic effects by 50 (PvE/TBS) | 15 (FL PvP) | 5 (CL PvP) % and increases beneficial magic effects by 100 (PvE/TBS) | 25 (FL PvP) | 10 (CL PvP) %.
@@miyoownz12 I will definitely try that one, thanks. It's so weird to me how that stuff works. with this one I can kinda see it since it says "increases beneficial magic effects". the bow talent still makes no sense to me. even though spell reflex also says "and its effects are increased", and it doesn't increase anything... so I guess magic effects counts and effects not lol. If it works I'll probably make a video to update everyone
@@miyoownz12 I just tried it. It does not increase the dmg :/
@@atlanticaepidemie80 damn, thanks for the effort though..
Then how about Gun main?,since they have same talent with BOW increase buff atack 200%
since the release of the new talents this video doesn't really mean anything anymore. because this talent is so strong they just gave it to every main (except for cannon and the mages). so yea, every main can now do the same dmg with procs (if you are high enough level)
With bow talents. Pve could be much easier ...
lots of informations as always in the description if anyone shouldn't notice (don't want to write it in the title everytime :/)
if you know anything interesting or you are wondering about something specific let me know so I can find out more about it and share the results. I personally find stuff like this video really insightful but I don't have an unlimited amout of ideas so feel free to share yours
Mount proc counts as attack buff on main -> 200% more
@@hongnamnguyen1993 yea, seems so. IMO that doesn't really make sense though. or am I missing something?^^ "Increases any Attack Power buffs you receive by xxx", maybe it's the translation but that seems odd to me. this is the sole reason sooo many people feel forced to play bow main.. because it's so busted.
Well, Atlantica since Hangame has always been sketchy in term of coding and description so I think it was a coding mistake registering mount procs as attk buff but eventually got ignored and accepted as a feature.
The same can be said about "J" of bow main -> 200% more dmg
@@hongnamnguyen1993 maybe I should mention it to a GM and it can get fixed. but I would assume the devs already know.. or I would hope xD what do you mean with "J"?