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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Join us as we dive into the iconic world of Black Sabbath with the legendary drummer, Vinny Appice. We explore the incredible story of how Vinny was parachuted into the band during their mid-tour crisis when Bill Ward decided to leave. Discover the twists of fate and sliding doors moments that led Vinny to this groundbreaking opportunity. From turning down a chance to be a part of Ozzy's band to joining forces with Tony Iommi and Ronnie James Dio in Black Sabbath, Vinny shares his firsthand experiences and behind-the-scenes anecdotes.
We also delve into the songwriting process within the band and discuss the dynamics between the original members and the newly added talents. Vinny opens up about the creative collaboration and the role that Ronnie James Dio played in shaping the music and the lyrics. Classic rock lovers and Black Sabbath fans alike will relish in the stories of how timeless tracks like "Mob Rules" came to life.
If that's not enough, we also explore the turbulent times during the recording of the Live Evil album, where tensions among the band members began to creep in. Join us as Vinny candidly recounts the challenges and misunderstandings that arose, including the accusations surrounding the live mix alterations. Discover the truth behind the behind-the-scenes drama and how it affected the band's dynamics.
But the story doesn't end there. As the podcast unfolds, we learn about the powerful bond between Vinny and Ronnie and the difficult decision they faced when it came time to part ways with Black Sabbath. Hear about the birth of Dio and the excitement that surrounded this new chapter in their musical journey.
Don't miss this captivating episode, packed with nostalgia, incredible music, and an inside look into the legacy of Black Sabbath. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a curious listener, prepare to rock out with VRP Rocks as we celebrate the timeless classics of Black Sabbath and the influential legacy they left behind.
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I was a tech for testament on the european leg of dehumanizer tour in Europe.
Tony and geezer were always kind and polite.
Kept to themselves.
Vinnie and Ronnie were absolutely fantastic.
Every nite it was a smokefest and tons of laughs with those two.
I had some really great conversations with Ronnie and Vinnie.
I was in the production office calling home to check in with my sons mom and he gets on the phone with her and has a half an hour conversation with her...lol
Ronnie was a great person.
Always had a few minutes for fans.
Truly the man on the silver moutain.
His legacy will never die.
Rest.in peace my friend.
Fantastic memories, I love hearing things like this. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome, what else would you expect from two great, grateful Italians.......
Absolute legend. His playing on Mob Rules is fantastic. Perfect drum writing for all the songs. Sign of the Southern Cross is one of my favorite songs of all time
100%
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Never, ever heard a single bad word about Vinny. Very professional operator.
Dio's proudest accomplishments were 3 of the greatest albums, with 3 different bands. Vinnie was there for 2 outta 3.
I love Dehumazier!!! I love all the Dio albums with Sabbath. “I” is an amazing track!
And Computer God
Computer god is killa and Time Machine and tv crimes
@@babylemonade2868 Those plus Afterall and I.
that song just rips your face off! Fucking love it
Agree, the best albums by far by Sabbath are the ones with Dio
I saw Vinny and Jimmy Bain sitting at a pub table of the After Dark Club in Houston waiting to go on stage as World War 3. I wanted to acknowledge them but I did not know how and I did not want to bother them so when I thought they were looking in my direction I held my drink up to salute them. To my astonishment, they both lifted their glasses up and acknowledged me! They were at least 30 feet away and the club was dark.
Ok, that's just cool. 👍 2 legends right there. So, in hindsight, do you wish you would have talked to them?
I spoke with Vinny after a LIL concert and asked him how he came about playing with the his stick between index and middle finger and he told me he and Carmine were experimenting and he since stopped because he pinched his hand! True story!
If rock stars are drinking at a club table, they're open game to be approached and appreciated. They enjoy recognition very much. It's the same as saying "thank you for your service & sacrifice" to a military veteran.
Vinnie seems a very humble guy for a killer drummer, I saw his drum clinic about 20 years ago he is much more capable than you can even comprehend!
I'm always amazed at how humble and genuine Vinnie is, especially compared with his brother Carmine, whos, uhm, not necessarily quite as humble....
Can he play upside-down like Tommy Lee?
Vinnie is awesome. The live stuff they recorded during the Angry Machines tour was just sick A.F. Vinnie was ON FIRE 🔥🔥. Some of the best drums I've ever heard. It was so tight, so crisp, and he just went off. That was what really made me realize how good he was.
Vinnie's drumming to me always sounded ploddy not fluid but maybe that is was what was asked of him. After all Bill Ward was a hard act to follow
@@Frip36probably not neither did Tommy Lee
The fact that Vinnie isn't living in a cardboard box after dealing with Sharon Arden for so long is a miracle in itself..
Best comment ever.
Right!!? 😂
Sharon n ozzy #grEEDYmoFOS
Sharon likely knew better than to disrespect Italians from Long Island
Very good of him to turn down Sharon. She is disgusting
Mob Rules is not only one of my favorite Sabbath albums, but top 20 all time
It is actually my favorite album of all time
I saw that tour in south Florida. 15 yrs old. 2nd row off center. There were a giant mountain of speakers in front of me.😊😊
Same. Mob Rules, in top twenty albums of all time. There's been a lot a masterpieces, so let's say top 30. Which is saying a lot for a band on their 10th album, with the main songwriter still in the midst of long term heroin addiction. And new singer. And an album made with the pressure of having to measure up to their previous come-back album, the great Heaven and Hell. What are your top 3 favorite songs from Mob Rules Mr. Time Bomb Man?
@Frip36 So my favorite from Mob Rules
3. Country Girl
2. Falling Off The Edge of the World
1. Over and Over
4. Falling
3. Country Girl
2. Cross
1. Over
They re-recorded the instrumental tracks around 2018 or maybe 2013. The mix is much clearer. The guitar solo is better. @@user-cruton
I was 12 years old when the Heavy Metal soundtrack came out and I bought the record because it had Journey and Devo and a cool cover. The instant The Mob Rules started playing I was blown away and instantly became a heavy metal fan. To this day it's my all time favorite song.
Cool story!
Nice breaking in song. Mine was problem child
I was 11, and was completely enthralled by the whole movie! Both, my best friend and I would watch that movie over and over and over!
Have you heard Russell Allen sing Mob Rules? Dude kills it.
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I was 13 when Heavy Metal was released, but unfortunately I didn't get to see it at the theater(although some of my friends did). I did get to see Black Sabbath's Mob Rules show later that same year at the Spectrum in Philly(12/4/81). It was my 1st ever concert. I saw Ozzy's Bark @ the Moon tour in 84, and Dio's Sacred Heart tour a year or 2 later. So I've seen Vinnie and RJD play with both bands.
Strangely, I didn't actually see Heavy Metal until many years later, probably not til the 2000s!
Vinny's one of the best rock/metal drummers ever, legitimately up there with Ward and Bonham. Always sad to hear about how much these talented guys would fight and feud over silly things.
Ego
Love Bill, but if anyone was gonna replace him I'm so glad it was Vinnie the powerhouse Appice, a great rock drummer as is his brother Carmine 🥁
When Bill Ward refused to do "The End" tour, I started an unsuccessful online campaign to have Vinny replace him. I took my 14-year-old son to the Bristow, Virginia show and he got to see three original members of Sabbath. The addition of Vinny would have made it extra special.
@rachel112263 Context is helpful here. Bill said it was the unfair contract ( Sharon ! ) while Ozzy blamed Bill's health issues. I saw The End as well and it was incredible. It's shameful Vinny wasn't even asked to do 13 but that's Rick Rubin for ya. Geezer & Tony both on record as not enjoying that experience & would never work with him again. Let's hope they pull off 1 final show as has been discussed recently. 🤟
Dehumanizer is a very great underated album
Quite good songs but sound is thin.
Facts. Also, sounds freaking amazing with a subwoofer. It was mixed very well in my opinion. Love the complexity.
Vinnie will always be part of Sabbath.
Mob Rules one of the best albums ever.
I’m impressed he was able to transport a drum set in a Mustang.
Vinnie 1000 times better than older brother. My humble opinion!!! Last in line drum parts, heavy as hell . Love his drumming
Dehumanizer is tragically underrated.
Words cannot define how bad that album was. Heaven n"Hell was a masterpiece, Mob rules was really good. De-humanizer was terrible.
TV Crimes!!!!!
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Great song.
@@stephensdygert7600 Dehumanizer was a masterpiece too.
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Computer God
Too Late
Vinny's drumming on Holy Diver was a huge influence on me. His creativity is so unique to him. Absolutely amazing player. One of my favorites for sure.
Holy Diver is a masterclass in rock drumming. Huge influence on me too. Vinnie's place in rock history is secured.
I saw them with Danzig on the Dehumanizer tour and they were excellent. It wasn't some small venue at all. That was a great album. Everyone always mentions grunge like it was the death of heavy metal and rock n roll. Heavy metal and rock n roll are still here with a huge following. Grunge who?
I saw that show in Cleveland, Danzig was great but Sabbath was so powerful! Vinnie's drumming, Geezer and Tony, and Ronnie....I never heard anyone like Ronnie, greatest Metal singer of all time imo.
@@yourmomsdaddy9130 Definitely agree with you on that. I also saw Dio on the Last in Line and Sacred Heart tours. Dio sounded spectacular as always and Vivian Campbell can shred the guitar. Two incredible shows as always from RJD
@@yourmomsdaddy9130 you didn't need to add the "imo" to the end of your post. It's a proven scientific fact that RJD was the greatest. 😁👍🤘
If you listen to everything Vinnie has done, you will see how great he is!
Absolutely!!!
Hell yeah. Seen him with dio on sacred heart tour, talked to him at a drum clinic then saw him perform at a club here in Las Vegas with vivian Campbell. They went under the name Last in Line... total bad ass🤘
*I always loved Vinnie's sludgy way of swinging the time of his grooves, especially with his fills and accents... Without actually slowing the tempo, the way he slightly yet consistently lags the striking of his kit, it's always given his grooves a sense of immense size and weight. But should it be necessary, he can rev up his speed, while maintaining that monstrous laggy groove.*
His fills in we rock are top notch!
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Agreed!! And turn up the night. Air drum fills for sure
He sounds like he's falling asleep.
That’s why AC/DC grooves so much Phil Rudd is behind the beat as well!
@@BrianFosterdrummer that and his killer instincts!!@sonordrums
Vinnies's drumming with Dio especially was phenomenal! Last In Line!
Vinnie's work on Angry Machines is EPIC
Vinnie has a Quinton Tarrentino vibe that I like.
Vinny is and always has been and Gentleman and a Class Act. Your work with Ronnie and Sabbath is Epic.
Just an incredible drummer. He probably made the right choice in turning down Ozzy. Sharon fired Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley after the second Ozzy album was recorded. Randy wasn’t happy and voiced that he would probably leave soon afterwards.
I met Vinnie at a Last in Line gig this past summer. My brother is a drummer and opened for his band in Roseville, CA. Vinnie was super cool to both of us after his sound check. We got a couple of cool pics with Vinnie, along with Phil Soussan. Very cool guy! Vinnie is such a good drummer too - rock on!
Vinny a real drummer....just brilliant.
The Mob Rules is such an underrated album. I prefer it over Heaven & Hell by an inch
Saw them at 15 on the Mob Rules tour after loving Sabbath with Ozzy. After that concert I was totally sold and a fan of this lineup forever
I saw Sabbath on the “Black, and Blue” tour in ‘81 with Blue Oyster Cult. I had just graduated from Parris Island the day before. Talk about culture shock.
Same tour, Cap Center in Landover, MD. Saw Them both again MANY years later. Sabbath (w/Ozzy) at Bristol, VA and then BOC In Nashville. Wore my Sabbath tee to the BÖC concert and went backstage for a “meet & greet.” That shirt got a comment from Buck but they all appreciated the humor. I told them I thought it was a GREAT fucking show! BÖC is my absolute, hands down, favorite American Band!
Mob Rules is one of my all time favourite LPs
Didn't realize Vinny was so young at the time
Very impressive indeed
This explains why the Mob Rules from the movie was so vastly different from the album. Both are great.
I think his greatest accomplishment might just be that he managed to pack a full drum kit into a Mustang 😂
Yeah when he said that, the next 5 minutes of what he said I couldn’t process because I was trying to picture where all the pieces were going to fit, and how you would still be able to drive. 😂
It had to have been like playing Tetris in real life! 🤣
I used to pack a 7 piece Ludwig kit into my 69 Camaro in the early 80s, bass drum in the front seat, wouldn't fit anywhere else. This brought back a lot of memories.
My old drummer used to make a full kit fit in a Chevy Vega back in the day .
Agreed!
Vinnie is one of the most underrated musicians on the planet.. his sound his skills, feel , he has it all... thanks for all the great grooves thru the year's Vincenzo!!!!!!! Peace and health...........
I took drum lessons from Carmine Appice when I was a kid in NJ. I was too young at the time to realize who he was, but he taught me well and is/was a great drummer.
Wow that is very cool! I've interviewed Carmine a couple of times before, there's a few videos on the channel here 👍🤘
Saw them in ‘80 at MSG as part of the Black and Blue tour. They kicked ass.
That Axis album that he says Tony first heard him on is a late 70’s hard rock gem.
Sentimental favorite.
I agree with Ozzy when he said they should've changed the band name after he left because the Dio incarnation really was a whole different animal.
The original lineup will always be first in people's minds but those four albums with Dio are all killer and Vinny is a fantastic drummer! I think that incarnation of the band was just as strong as the original.
Black Sabbelf. 😆
But.... because of the fact that the second incarnation would not have been possible without the first to piggyback on- no insult or slight to anybody, just the reality that Ronnie & co. had all that existing rocking material to rely on, so I respectfully disagree, I know what you mean band wise as far as ability to perform & execute songs, just factoring in the intangible creative aspect of writing - so IMO, the latter can't surpass or even equal the original line up- I don't recall nearly as many Dio days songs as I do Ozzy era ones- rock on
@@jerald6023 Fair enough.
IOMMI is Sabbath
I think they did re-brand as Heaven and Hell for a short. Even got a tour shirt from that era
“I wasn’t a big Sabbath fan.” A testament of his superb drumming.
Vinnie on those first two Derringer records was so good. Some of the best drumming you'll ever hear.
I agree. That was a great band I had the honor of meeting & talking with bassist Kenny Arronson great guy. One Eyed Jack Sittin by the Pool etc.
The belt buckle album was a masterpiece.
@@joemartucci4786Haven't heard that name since the HSAS project!
Saw Derringer w/ Vinny blow Aerosmith away in the late Seventies!
@@roccidisopa661 In those early days, Kansas was opening for Aerosmith. Steven Tyler was so jealous of Kansas, he was caught pulling some of their plugs of their monitors and amps. Dave Hope(bass player for Kansas) told him, if I catch you again, I'm going to kick your "blanking" axx
My favorite rock.drummer his work on holy diver simply spectacular one beast of a drummer
"I wasn't that much into Sabbath." How the Hell is that possible?????
😂
Right??!!!
Dehumanizer is one of the best metal albums of all time IMO. I saw them in Albany NY on that tour. I loved the fact that they played a smaller venue.
👉 Speaking of big bands playing uncharacteristically small venues..... I live near the college town of Newark Delaware. For some reason in 1989, at almost the height of their career, Metallica decided to play at a local club called the "Stone Balloon" on Main Street Newark. That place couldn't have fit more than a few hundred people.
That show kinda flew under the radar, and apparently it wasnt promoted until a late date, so I completely missed out on it! It only cost $13 for a ticket! From there they went right back to playing arenas and NBA basketball stadiums. They released the video of it in 2018. I don't even know how they knew of the Stone Balloon's existence! Odd...
Saw Dehumanizer twice, was front row at the first one, really small venue, and they were larger than life. (Newport Music Hall, Columbus, Ohio) The 2nd show was a few days later in an arena in Dayton Ohio. Great as well, but not like being in front, at a small 2000 person venue.
his best work !!! whit DIO, we rock,,,🤘🥁🤘
Saw them on both Heaven And Hell and Mob Rules tours- incredible!!
Met Vinny at a cymbal promotional gig at Long and McQuade in Toronto 1985. Great guy. Laid back and personable.
Sabbath is one of my favorite bands. 🤘💀 !
WOW ! i saw the heaven and hell tour and Bill Ward was still on drums at the time...... I had no idea that Vinnie was in band that early- before the Mob Rules album was made.....
I never knew that Cozy Powell was supposed to do DeHumanizer
That blows my mind.
Recently, he did a brazilian tour playing classics from Dio and Sabbath. By the way, the shirt is from a brazilian band "Sinistra" .
Yes, he spoke to me about that trip to Brazil. He loved it!
I was 13 years old and a young guitarist but I loved Vinny's fills and rolls that kept the music pacing. Then he joined Dio and kept that feel going.
dehumanizer is a awesome album !!! all the songs are heavy and just sound good .
In the early 90s my band opened for a band calle World War 3. Vinnie on drums and Jimmy Bain on bass. At the end of the night both Vinnie and Jimmy came on to our bus to hang out. Our bus was a 1972 International school bus wich we converted into our "tour bus". They totally were digging on our Partridge Family bus vibe and we chatted and partied for about an hour. Memorable evening rocking with and hsnging out with rock legends. Forever grateful.
Holy diver and Last in line were my jams.
I was kinda hoping to get Vinny's opinion on Vivian Campbell as to how great he thought he was and possibly the audition process for Dio's new band maybe hearing wat stood out with Vivian that landed him to get the gig .I mean that Holy Diver record IMO was some of the greatest Heavy Metal Guitar playing in history .was truly amazing and a Heavy Metal Masterpiec
People talk Carmine all the time, with good reason, but Vinny is one of my favorite drummers. I sang for years and sang "Neon Knights" for around 18 yrs., "Children of the Sea". Two of my favorites to sing. What a band, that version was.
Top man, Vinnie. Everything he said ties in with the Ozzy and Sabs biographies I read a couple months back. Limo situation almost like Rammstein's "Keine Lust" promo. 😁👍
This iguy is still one of the most amazing kings on the kit got to see him at a guitar center clinic in Covina and have recently ran across him somewhere else on the music scene and meeting him and watching him play the way he does is an honor and still inspiring for me.
Vinnie is one of my heroes in metal drums.. drums period.. He carved out the perfect style and sound that made Black Sabbath rock in a whole new way with him and Ronnie.. I mean this guy slings different than anyone else on the Black Sabbath and Dio works ... without that unique style he crafted none of Sabbath or Dios work would have sounded as good .. love Carmine but I'll hang my sticks on Vinnie
Vinnie is underrated,he is 1 of the best rock n roll drummers ever.R.I.P Dio
I just met him in a hotel lobby I look over and he was sitting there couldn't believe my eyes ... I ran and told my son and then we talked to him and got a picture.... 🤘
That's very cool 👍🤘
Dehumanizer is my favourite record, largely because of Vinny Appice.
to add (I guess everybody knows this already), VINNY APPICE is a "hell of a drummer", this guy is just a serious kicking-ass musician.
Last in Line- greatest song ever about the 80s Lakers/Celtics playoffs!
Saw Vinnie’s first show with Black Sabbath at Aloha stadium 🏟 in Hawaii in 1980 Black and Blue tour!! Great show!!
Hardly any thumbs up as compared to views for this fantastic interview? Come one people...
Vinny made the right choice, the band Dio was more successful than Black Sabbath was between the years 1983-1991
I would say 1985 -1991.
Born Again and tour did well.
Excellent album btw. 😈
@@mrmaxaxl "Holy Diver" and "Last In Line" sold about 3 millions combined, "Born Again" did a whopping 10, 000 units sold...lol I didn't expect it to be that bad..
@@pulsarlights2825 Hahaha! Where did you get those numbers from?
It certainly sold way more than 10 000
@@mrmaxaxl TH-cam keeps preventing from posting the Fing site!! 10, 290 units sold and Rank in 1983: 630
@@pulsarlights2825 I found the site. Trust me: those numbers are incorrect. Live Evil for example: 6080 copies.
No way in hell. They where still huge when that album came out and sold out arenas well into the 80's.
Do you really think only a handfull of those people in the crowd bought their latest album?
What an amazing drummer and an even better musician!
I saw the your in Providence RI ! If you listen to Fools. The Mob Rules … great! 🎉
I was at that show at Aloha Stadium, and it was f-ing AWESOME. RJD was a force to be reckoned. 1980 or 81. I was in the Navy stationed at Pearl Harbor at the time, and about 20 of my shipmates attended. We talked about it for weeks afterwards
I’m envious! I saw some great shows when I was in the Navy too!
The bond that joined Vinny & Ronnie was “sauce”. It’s always the sauce.
Great interview! Love hearing these stories about albums I listened to around the time they came out with no idea what was going on!
Great guy.
Vinny the GOAT!
Great info and another great interview.
Great man and musician ❤
Met Vinnie during his first tour with Kill Devil and was just a lovely guy. Love all his Sabbath work and glad “Dehumanizer” is getting its due. When Rhino Records released the remastered vinyl, we snagged it up!🎧🥁
I saw you with Sabbath circa 1982 (?). It was excellent. Boston. Thanks!
Vinny Rules
Mob Rules tour was the first live show I saw as a kid, opening act was Outlaws, so cool
I saw that tour, but there no Outlaws. I did see Molly hatchet outlaws.
Nice guy, didn't bad mouth anyone.
I saw that 1st gig at Aloha Stm. where Vinny's notes got rained on and Geez had to march him thru Bill's parts which didn't always work. but they were still great!
I was at that Hawaii concert & when they got up on stage it started to drizzle while the sun was setting, epic !
I saw BS in November of 1980, i must admit i was disappointed that Bill wasn't there but VA was fine. But i did see them in 78 also so caught both versions of the band, so life was good.
My favorite SONG Vinny with Derringer SITIN BY THE POOL
Nice shirt Vinny! You should bring Nando Fernandes to the US for a tour, I'm sure Ronnie's American fans would love to see your project!
You had your like at " He's pretty Crazy"
This is my favorite heavy metal drummer.. ❤️🙌
My favorit version of Black Sabbath. Epic. 🤘🤘
Could listen to rock history all day😎
Did you ask him about his time with Derringer? I think the series of Derringer albums that he was on are highly underrated. Check out the live stuff, that band was incredibly tight.
Yes, their album Derringer Live is very good. Rick Derringer had a very interesting career.
Remember Axis. Shreveport, Louisiana's Danny Johnson on guitar.
Nice T-shirt Mr. Vinny! I Love the band Sinistra! And I saw your gig em Sorocaba/SP; amazing show!
He is correct, Dehumanizer is a fantastic piece of work. It really moves you.
I met Carmine at "The Channel" in Boston. The Guess Who, Edgar Winter, and Johnny Winter were on the bill. I can't remember with which group that he performed with. I think it was with "The Edgar Winter Group". Very nice man. He plays them drums pretty good too. 😂
Saw Sabbath for the first time in 1978 by the way. Manchester appollo England never say die tour. And as for Dio later on magnificent singer. I have all the vinyls on my wall excellent band. Dios Heaven and hell is a classic album to me.
Wow, thanks, Vinny!
Love listening to these older New York Italians talk about their heyday. I'd say 1/4th of the metal scene was Italian.
Dehumanizer tour...awesome show