I wonder how will the support meta be in 4.4 with the changes to Mortal Reminder and the addition of Oceanid's Trident. Keep up with the great work Stu!!
Hey man, just stumbled across your twitter and now TH-cam! Really find your videos beneficial and insightful towards what’s happening on the rift! Keep up the good work and looking forward to the skin competitions in the future! 🎉
Fantastic vid as always, and I love your guides over on wildriftfire! I would love to see something similar to mobafire for PC league where you can see different builds from different players, so as to diversify and experiment with my own builds in WR!
15:24 Please just try nashor's tooth on twitch, ashe, and akshan, i won't comment much. I've mostly seen nashor's tooth on AP champions only which is kinda sad. Also mf should've been back to B tier, she's not bad, but way too reliant on your team, varus just does it better.
@@iTzSTU4RT You know crit doesn't always equal to big damage right? :/ DitzWR have been playing wit's end focused akshan build, *and no IE here* , but still ended up dealing so much damage. Just stay away from botrk as an adc, this is probably why the three of them feels awful to you since the game recommends you to build it.
Looking forward to 4.4 🎉 You're doing a lot at the moment, really nice content. As Janna main I love and HATE her rework. Not being able to aim your shield sucks. They can keep the rework as it is, but make the shield like before to aim. At the moment she feels like Sona. And talking about 4.4 - if Sona comes like shown... busted 😂
The shield is way easier by just clicking. It's instant and works well with ult. The 2nd ability being instant makes her braindead. I used to love the bush tornado cheese but she can chain 2 tornados now which is way better against ppl like akali and yi.
@@JasonSantiago-hh6jy Easier, yes. If you like spamming. I don't like it easier. I want it to be on time, on target, when I want it. I like to have my shield on the one who is focused, who is in danger to get soon killed. Not the one with low hp, who is maybe already out of danger.
@asdaf42 the tornado shoots out twice in a chain and hits way better and easier. The total knockup time on the chain is stronger than the original full charged tornado. The shield I agree with because the shield also grants attack damage and procs the ardent censor so it should be chosen to anybody you want to proc them on. Her ult is weak as hell now and I rather it be a channel if it's gonna he that weak. I like the changes to her 2nd ability but the slow with electrocute rune was a trade god.... I gotta see how she plays with harmonic echo. We still got the sona rework coming too
@@JasonSantiago-hh6jy Yes, I agree I like the tornado rework. But I was also fine with the old version. To be honest, I didn't need this rework. I liked Janna like she was. Now Janna feels like Sona a bit. Just spam. Sona will be in advantage latest with her rework. Janna is still a okay pick. But reliable... Questionable. They can keep the rework like it is. But please make the shield to aim 🙂
Thank you so much for all of ur hard work. I’ve only been playing a few months and you have helped my play immensely which keeps me playing. Ty Ty Ty 😊
I am so excited for 4.4 ❤ Especially for the new Evelynn skin which I've been waiting for so so long for and also zyra who will come out in December along with coven. This is a long wait but finally thank god that Evelynn will have a skin and it's a skin i love so much. I am really looking forward the crystal rose sera and others preview & the sera and gwen, etc skin gameplay that will come out when they are released 🥰❤️
Unless they change her shield auto-targetting she will soon be forgotten by the community as soon as the novelty wears off, as well as getting shelved by those who used to main her. It was a lazy, clumsy rework.
It's sad to see Graves being so down in the tier list. I used to pick him up against pretty much any other jungler due to his clear speed since the last item and rune update he feels off and none of the new items benefit him all that much since they all have attack SPD, which is bad with him. Hopefully Riot wil buff him someday.
I'll say this. I think kayle is going to be moving up to A, maybe even S tier next patch. The new items/minion changes are really going to give her what she needs. Especially with the hurricane changes!
Rito making huge changes to to magic items and adding a safety item so mages won't struggle that much early. AP Assasins that not only will oneshot everything but also getting free Garen's W: Allow us to introduce ourselves. (Rito can change items all they want it won't change the fact that champion abilities is THE problem).
Once again Lux stays above A tier due to massive damage output. Hearing the opinion of the tier list for each lane is very informative. Just discovered your channel today!
Funny question, would there be any chance there would be runes for fiddlesticks support when he comes out? Used to play him on pc about 2 years ago before my pc broke and I can't wait for his release. Also thanks for the guide on Olaf and Galio, helped me climb from plat to diamond. Loving your work and content, keep it up
You know as a Seraphine and Senna main id be very interested to hear your opinions about them as supports, specifically more on Seraphine since im curious to why shes so low
Seraphine is just a weaker enchanter compared to other supports, I haven’t tried her too much recently but maybe I’ll try her again soon and see how she works out
@@iTzSTU4RT i think shes a bit underrated as a support, she should atleast be on the lower end of A tier , she hast two play styles mainly, if you play her enchanter shes the best Aoe shielder in the game with empowered W while bringing decent healing, along with the new harmonic echo buff your allies will be unkillable (you put al your points in W first ofc) . If you play her as a damage support she can bring great crowd control and burst while bringing a bit of utility still with her W, you can set up your team for easy kills, and if they cant kill them you can do it yourself, put all your points on Q then E afterwards and max W last. I like to build imperial mandate on sera no matter what play style im going for since she can easily apply the marks on her enemies, especially when you land a 5 man ulti the following engage will be explosive given your allies arent actually brain dead and take advantage of it. Rylais is also pretty good no matter what play style just because of how much it buffs her E, making it a gauranteed root. It just brings good utility, decent damage and survivability. When im going damage on her i like to go ludens first , mana boots, mandate second, then its situational from here on but i like to get either rabadons or rylais depending on the situation or what my team is lacking. For enchanter i start with a tear after my support item, then go for a harmonic echo, ioanian boots, mandate, then everything after that is situational, just build her like you would with any enchanter when picking support items. Sometimes i build rabandons as one of my last items so i dont fall off lategame.
Do you think diana with a kinda bruiser build will be op with the magic pen on every item (even tho the total magic pen cannot pass what void staff gives)?
Honestly think Sera should be higher than pre rework Sona.. She at least has something over her in terms of entire team shutdown potential. Sona still has no range, and little impact compared to her.
Yesterday once again came back to the game BUT this time i dragged 2 of my friends into playing 😂😂 Anyways checking out your video due how often ive used the website in the past. Finally my favourite Champion is coming out... FIDDLE STICKSSSS 😅😮
What is the full tank Yasuo build? 😂😂😂 I've been seeing it on reddit and it seemed ok. Edit: also thoughts on phase rush Orianna? Seems to be more popular than conqueror or electrocute in my region
With all the buffs pantheon receive from previous patches and hes still in A tier in almost all roles😂. The only thing that might get his tier go up is to lower the passive from 5 to 4 or 5-3, longer range for Q and remove the slow in activating the 3rd skill this might be crazy but hear me out they can balance it out by reducing the all of his skill base damage, might increase the cd a bit and lower the base stats a bit. And just make the ult more impactful during teamfight not just a debuff but an actual disruptive ult.This might be OP but why not😂
He actually kills everything, he's a sleeper OP, even a fed ornn can lose to him. But his mana cost though... This just makes his tier goes down the hill, imagine in a teamfight you're suddenly running out of mana smh
@@hey9974 yeah he kills everything but sadly he literally falls off late game. I want him to be like a skill casting bruiser not a insta kill assassin.And yeah everyone can kill fed ornn as long tou build the item and ornn does not duel champ but be on teamfights more and his health and scaling stats were nerfed
@@tonytonychopper5961Builds "the item", what item? Ornn is a super tank because of his passive but panth can still kill him, with ease actually as long as he has blue buff. He doesn't fall off that much compared to lee, if you can't snowball on lee he's just a meatshield, insec is not always successful to pull off so yeah.
@@hey9974 'builds the right items" sorry like LDR,sunderer,BORK,cleaver etc. He falls off later stages of the game pros from pc and Wr also said the same thing except that time when panths rework release he was so Op.Hes strong and yeah he can literally kill ornn solo easily BUT Ornn is not played as a duel champ but as a teamfight champ now and a tank because of the nerfs stat changes and skill nerfs.Compared to other meta champs hes easy to predict, panth need skill adjustments not buffs it just small and not very impactful.
I have the most pentas playing MF. She's a lane bully paired with a good frontline support like Leona makes MF very oppressive. I don't know why she's placed low on the tier lists.
Patch 4.4 may be disappointing, but since we get Crystal Rose Seraphine and Sivir, I'll take it lol🎉 Looking forward for the new patch, don't get to Sivir rank 1 before me!❤
@@iTzSTU4RT just to be clear. Janna doesn’t need to beat anyone on this list. In Laning phase. She simply shuts them down completely in any team fight.
Janna is so nerfed in this rework. She must be in A tier now, not higher. She lose all her impact, features and get stupid auto aim and skill nerfs. This rework is 4/10 maximum!
I wonder how will the support meta be in 4.4 with the changes to Mortal Reminder and the addition of Oceanid's Trident. Keep up with the great work Stu!!
Somehow janna just doesn't feel like janna anymore:(
She's really good and fun to play, but completely lost her identity imo
No exactly! I didn’t even know she was reworked until I was in a match and was doing bad lol
Thanks for the help u gave me when I started playing wild rift.
your builds may have saved me many games and insecurities with items.
I love you wild fire web sight it helped me picking my main champ
The list really helps the returning players like me who easily forget the matchups
Same, I call it crownguard as well because of tft
Hahahaha 😂😂
Keep on kicking ass @Stu 🌝🌝🙏
Hey man, just stumbled across your twitter and now TH-cam! Really find your videos beneficial and insightful towards what’s happening on the rift! Keep up the good work and looking forward to the skin competitions in the future! 🎉
Returned to this after 5 months. This will help me a lot
Thanks for your hard work
Fantastic vid as always, and I love your guides over on wildriftfire! I would love to see something similar to mobafire for PC league where you can see different builds from different players, so as to diversify and experiment with my own builds in WR!
Thank you for your work. One can only praise it. 👊🏼
15:24 Please just try nashor's tooth on twitch, ashe, and akshan, i won't comment much. I've mostly seen nashor's tooth on AP champions only which is kinda sad. Also mf should've been back to B tier, she's not bad, but way too reliant on your team, varus just does it better.
Yeah nashors twitch is great for AP twitch but doesn’t work well for others just cause they want crit :(
@@iTzSTU4RT You know crit doesn't always equal to big damage right? :/ DitzWR have been playing wit's end focused akshan build, *and no IE here* , but still ended up dealing so much damage. Just stay away from botrk as an adc, this is probably why the three of them feels awful to you since the game recommends you to build it.
You're so thorough 😄 and it's always appreciated on my part thank you
I'm really greatful that you do this guides. It's been a huge help for me to play better. I'm looking forward to your tutorials for patch 4.4 😊
Looking forward to 4.4 🎉 You're doing a lot at the moment, really nice content.
As Janna main I love and HATE her rework. Not being able to aim your shield sucks. They can keep the rework as it is, but make the shield like before to aim. At the moment she feels like Sona.
And talking about 4.4 - if Sona comes like shown... busted 😂
The shield is way easier by just clicking. It's instant and works well with ult. The 2nd ability being instant makes her braindead. I used to love the bush tornado cheese but she can chain 2 tornados now which is way better against ppl like akali and yi.
@@JasonSantiago-hh6jy Easier, yes. If you like spamming. I don't like it easier. I want it to be on time, on target, when I want it.
I like to have my shield on the one who is focused, who is in danger to get soon killed. Not the one with low hp, who is maybe already out of danger.
@asdaf42 the tornado shoots out twice in a chain and hits way better and easier. The total knockup time on the chain is stronger than the original full charged tornado. The shield I agree with because the shield also grants attack damage and procs the ardent censor so it should be chosen to anybody you want to proc them on. Her ult is weak as hell now and I rather it be a channel if it's gonna he that weak. I like the changes to her 2nd ability but the slow with electrocute rune was a trade god.... I gotta see how she plays with harmonic echo. We still got the sona rework coming too
@@JasonSantiago-hh6jy Yes, I agree I like the tornado rework. But I was also fine with the old version.
To be honest, I didn't need this rework. I liked Janna like she was.
Now Janna feels like Sona a bit. Just spam. Sona will be in advantage latest with her rework.
Janna is still a okay pick. But reliable... Questionable.
They can keep the rework like it is. But please make the shield to aim 🙂
Crazy amount of awesome info as always! Wouldn’t play WR if it was t for your website, cheers 😃
Nice work as always, yeah when I saw Hecarim in A tier you got me really confused
I can't wait to play arena mode, good video Stu
Looking forward to ap item adjustments and more QOL improvements
Thanks man I always follow your guide for equipments and stuffs
Thank you so much for all of ur hard work. I’ve only been playing a few months and you have helped my play immensely which keeps me playing. Ty Ty Ty 😊
Thanks for the update Stuart!!
Can't wait for the new patch! Those rework and new skins looks really goooddddd!
Keep it up, STU
Thanks for the guides and tier lists. They really help in learning the game.
Thanks for the tierlist again stu appreciate you so much for these
Do you think echo works on seraphine? I know early the cd on her shield is pretty long but she can shield everyone so iim kinda curious
Yeah I think after ludens it can work really well with her 2nd ability, haven’t tested it just yet but can be good
Very informative, and actually viable tier list that i agree with! Great work!
I'm excited for Fizz having the Crown at it's arsenal. But with it CC champs like Veigar might get an indirect nerf.
Thank you always for providing tier list in every upcoming patch. 😊
I am so excited for 4.4 ❤ Especially for the new Evelynn skin which I've been waiting for so so long for and also zyra who will come out in December along with coven. This is a long wait but finally thank god that Evelynn will have a skin and it's a skin i love so much. I am really looking forward the crystal rose sera and others preview & the sera and gwen, etc skin gameplay that will come out when they are released 🥰❤️
Excited to see janna come back into the meta after being forgotten!
Unless they change her shield auto-targetting she will soon be forgotten by the community as soon as the novelty wears off, as well as getting shelved by those who used to main her. It was a lazy, clumsy rework.
Nice video!!
Thank you for your work! Great job with those tier lists and guides. Much appreciation!
It's sad to see Graves being so down in the tier list. I used to pick him up against pretty much any other jungler due to his clear speed since the last item and rune update he feels off and none of the new items benefit him all that much since they all have attack SPD, which is bad with him.
Hopefully Riot wil buff him someday.
Would love a nice skin to start this new season!!!
I'll say this. I think kayle is going to be moving up to A, maybe even S tier next patch. The new items/minion changes are really going to give her what she needs. Especially with the hurricane changes!
Amazing tier list 🔥
Great, 4.4 patch notes explanation later
Love the tierlist
Awesome amount of info as always! I wouldn’t playing WR if it wasn’t for ur website, cheers.. 😃👍
Tank Yasuo is def pretty strong, I think it def deserves a place on the toplane tier list
Love your videos man! Keep up the hard work
As always, my brother, you are very wonderful in your explanations
Rito making huge changes to to magic items and adding a safety item so mages won't struggle that much early.
AP Assasins that not only will oneshot everything but also getting free Garen's W: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
(Rito can change items all they want it won't change the fact that champion abilities is THE problem).
Once again Lux stays above A tier due to massive damage output. Hearing the opinion of the tier list for each lane is very informative. Just discovered your channel today!
Thanks for the update🎉
Ngl wukong and xin zhao needed those buffs, they have been out of the meta for awhile now
Nice Sir
Next patch gonna be huge, can't wait to play some mages(mostly Asol)
Keep up the great work 🎉
if the next patch is for mages, evelyn will be a menace in and outside the jungle
Funny question, would there be any chance there would be runes for fiddlesticks support when he comes out? Used to play him on pc about 2 years ago before my pc broke and I can't wait for his release. Also thanks for the guide on Olaf and Galio, helped me climb from plat to diamond. Loving your work and content, keep it up
I think you can just go full damage with first strike since his 1st ability is a skillshot
Looking forward to 4.4
You know as a Seraphine and Senna main id be very interested to hear your opinions about them as supports, specifically more on Seraphine since im curious to why shes so low
Seraphine is just a weaker enchanter compared to other supports, I haven’t tried her too much recently but maybe I’ll try her again soon and see how she works out
@@iTzSTU4RT i think shes a bit underrated as a support, she should atleast be on the lower end of A tier , she hast two play styles mainly, if you play her enchanter shes the best Aoe shielder in the game with empowered W while bringing decent healing, along with the new harmonic echo buff your allies will be unkillable (you put al your points in W first ofc) . If you play her as a damage support she can bring great crowd control and burst while bringing a bit of utility still with her W, you can set up your team for easy kills, and if they cant kill them you can do it yourself, put all your points on Q then E afterwards and max W last.
I like to build imperial mandate on sera no matter what play style im going for since she can easily apply the marks on her enemies, especially when you land a 5 man ulti the following engage will be explosive given your allies arent actually brain dead and take advantage of it.
Rylais is also pretty good no matter what play style just because of how much it buffs her E, making it a gauranteed root. It just brings good utility, decent damage and survivability.
When im going damage on her i like to go ludens first , mana boots, mandate second, then its situational from here on but i like to get either rabadons or rylais depending on the situation or what my team is lacking.
For enchanter i start with a tear after my support item, then go for a harmonic echo, ioanian boots, mandate, then everything after that is situational, just build her like you would with any enchanter when picking support items. Sometimes i build rabandons as one of my last items so i dont fall off lategame.
I'm zoe main and I have a question what do I do when I'm against tanky chams?
Try to stay as far away from them as possible and use ur mobility to get onto the back line to deal damage
Very interesting rework
But not as broken as Lux for me
Do you think diana with a kinda bruiser build will be op with the magic pen on every item (even tho the total magic pen cannot pass what void staff gives)?
I still think Burst Diana will be a more viable option but you can defo try bruiser it could work
It’s so tempting to switch to buffed champions on every patch.
When do you think imperial mandate is worth using for supports?
For any supports that have a lot of Slows/CC like Karma for example
Hi, thanks for the entertaining content. Have you tested stacks from new minions?
Will do it soon
Cant wait for 4.4
love your work
keep it up sir. thanks for the hard work
Thank you for doing a giveaway!
Hello! No stream yesterday?
Hey Zilla no sorry! I am casting TFT today so was preparing yesterday! I’ll be back tomorrow
@@iTzSTU4RT hey no need to apologise. It's all good. 👍👍
Is there any changes in riven build?
Nah nothing at all still runes the same thing pretty much
Honestly think Sera should be higher than pre rework Sona.. She at least has something over her in terms of entire team shutdown potential. Sona still has no range, and little impact compared to her.
Nice vid
Yesterday once again came back to the game BUT this time i dragged 2 of my friends into playing 😂😂
Anyways checking out your video due how often ive used the website in the past. Finally my favourite Champion is coming out... FIDDLE STICKSSSS 😅😮
Can't wait to use some new items
What is the full tank Yasuo build? 😂😂😂 I've been seeing it on reddit and it seemed ok.
Edit: also thoughts on phase rush Orianna? Seems to be more popular than conqueror or electrocute in my region
Its Grasp, Divine Sunderer Yasuo build its kinda annoying to deal with xD
@@iTzSTU4RT so no crit items whatsoever? That's interesting. I expected shieldbow at least.
Thanks bro.
Thanks as always Stu! Do you sleep?!?!
I try to :P
With all the buffs pantheon receive from previous patches and hes still in A tier in almost all roles😂. The only thing that might get his tier go up is to lower the passive from 5 to 4 or 5-3, longer range for Q and remove the slow in activating the 3rd skill this might be crazy but hear me out they can balance it out by reducing the all of his skill base damage, might increase the cd a bit and lower the base stats a bit. And just make the ult more impactful during teamfight not just a debuff but an actual disruptive ult.This might be OP but why not😂
He actually kills everything, he's a sleeper OP, even a fed ornn can lose to him. But his mana cost though... This just makes his tier goes down the hill, imagine in a teamfight you're suddenly running out of mana smh
@@hey9974 yeah he kills everything but sadly he literally falls off late game. I want him to be like a skill casting bruiser not a insta kill assassin.And yeah everyone can kill fed ornn as long tou build the item and ornn does not duel champ but be on teamfights more and his health and scaling stats were nerfed
@@tonytonychopper5961Builds "the item", what item? Ornn is a super tank because of his passive but panth can still kill him, with ease actually as long as he has blue buff. He doesn't fall off that much compared to lee, if you can't snowball on lee he's just a meatshield, insec is not always successful to pull off so yeah.
@@hey9974 'builds the right items" sorry like LDR,sunderer,BORK,cleaver etc. He falls off later stages of the game pros from pc and Wr also said the same thing except that time when panths rework release he was so Op.Hes strong and yeah he can literally kill ornn solo easily BUT Ornn is not played as a duel champ but as a teamfight champ now and a tank because of the nerfs stat changes and skill nerfs.Compared to other meta champs hes easy to predict, panth need skill adjustments not buffs it just small and not very impactful.
I’ve been tempted to move him up to S a few times maybe I’m underrating him
Waiting for 4.4
Let’s go !
My monkey Wukong in S+. Finally can play something else in Jungle besides Shadow Kayn 😊
I have the most pentas playing MF. She's a lane bully paired with a good frontline support like Leona makes MF very oppressive.
I don't know why she's placed low on the tier lists.
One cc and you're useless, very *very* similar to samira but not mobile. Soraka E-s to you and you're losing thousands of dps.
It’s very difficult to position in fights and she struggles in 1 vs 1 but she can still work
W tier list
Love your videos bro. I use your webpage a lot. Thank you ❤
How do i enter the giveaway?
You just comment like this! I’ll pick the winner at the end of the month
@@iTzSTU4RT thanks a lot!
Great list. I moved to NA server and lost my old account 😢. Would be nice to get a new skin!
Patch 4.4 may be disappointing, but since we get Crystal Rose Seraphine and Sivir, I'll take it lol🎉 Looking forward for the new patch, don't get to Sivir rank 1 before me!❤
ouh, how sad it is to see my beloved Jinx, Miss Fortune and Seraphine at the bottom of the list :(
Looking forward to AP meta patch 4.4 😅
Have you checked out Valoran Town yet?
I watched one and was so confused 😂
Didn’t know it was wild rift related though
@@iTzSTU4RT its so charming.
You know what champion can completely shut down your entire Baron lane list besides teemo? Janna in the top lane. Heavy roaming
Hahaha Janna Top Lane believe
@@iTzSTU4RT it’s an old school pc league strat that I’ve been running with incredible success.
@@iTzSTU4RT just to be clear. Janna doesn’t need to beat anyone on this list. In Laning phase. She simply shuts them down completely in any team fight.
HECK YEAHHH LUX IS S+ AS WHERE SHE DESERVES TO BE MY MAIN CHAMP
Thanks so much for this very informational video i really loved it
ekko build in 4.4 pls
Can you do Camille video?
I have a full guide on Camille in my A-Z playlist
W vid
Waiting for Sona rework then she'll be S+ tier.
Janna is so nerfed in this rework. She must be in A tier now, not higher. She lose all her impact, features and get stupid auto aim and skill nerfs. This rework is 4/10 maximum!
Diana should be higher I think
Nautilus Full tank?
Dont think its that great atm
@@iTzSTU4RT If I were to do it, what rune would I use?
Pre rework Janna is just way stronger
Post rework Janna is just a mini version of Lulu/Sona
I still love to use tryndamere lol ...
Perfect
Am a monke main, but i gotta say: WHY on the actual FU*K would they buff wukong?
+ Kayne also
No idea I thought monkey was already good 😂