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  • @AtlantisFootball
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  • @CCChing-wl9ir
    @CCChing-wl9ir 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    I remember how ten Hag used to say Martial is so vital to how his team plays. But we signed Hojlund, a bit of a head scratcher because he's so different from Martial, though he's a good striker in different ways. Of course nobody thought Martial would be unfit the whole season. Now with Zirkzee, I thought there's a player who looks like a more physical version of Martial. Definitely a good buy especially with the low release clause. 11 goals in Serie A where the top 10 scorers average about 14 goals is not a bad record for someone whose game is more than just scoring goals. Definitely see why the big interest in him.

    • @trainerorange0632
      @trainerorange0632 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yeah... Another long-term project. I like his skill set but we really need goals. After a few games of not scoring, the pressure will be on as it was with rasmus all season. Gotta find a way to get the best out of these guys but hopefully given they are young we should be able to get both a lot of minutes with proper rotation to continue development. I just wish we had seasoned pros to tech them stuff along the way, and provide a bit of goal scoring expertise as neither have ever hit 20 goals in a season, as far as I'm aware.

    • @sfrhm1874
      @sfrhm1874 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@trainerorange0632With a player like him, it’s soo short sighted to judge him based off of his goals. Rather, the fact that he will allow the TEAM to score many more goals.

    • @charizardsdealer
      @charizardsdealer 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tbh you need a range of styles and I don't think we were trying to replace martial with Hojlund but have some variety, the hope would have always been that Martial would be fit but he wasn't so but if Zirkzee replaces him that's fine

    • @Brigadier07
      @Brigadier07 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@sfrhm1874You have said it all. It's about dominating teams and how you play matters. Not just scoring goals

    • @sfrhm1874
      @sfrhm1874 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Brigadier07 Yeah. The goals will come if the team dominate and play well

  • @asrarshafi9054
    @asrarshafi9054 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Ten hag wants to play with a false 9 and a natural striker for different scenarios like he did at ajax i guess.

    • @tmbteuclid
      @tmbteuclid 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I really believe he wants to replicate his Ajax playstyle with how stubborn he was with the De Jong saga, that's gotta be why he openly admits "we don't have the players capable of replicate that, our players are best at transition, that's why we're doing it" or something along those lines

    • @Pandafro13
      @Pandafro13 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We looked great with Bruno at false 9 so I think Zirkee suits our attackers

    • @slayerr99
      @slayerr99 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      would probably link up zirkzee n hojlund infront, pushing bruno to play wide on the right, mainoo box to box, garnacho/rashford on the left. single pivot for amrabat as anchor which swithcing to double pivot when attacking supported by inverted dalot

  • @Shappy86
    @Shappy86 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Zirkzee makes a tonne of sense as a signing this summer. Top class player available for a cut price deal, who offers us something different to what we have. Given that we have Rashford, Garnacho, and Antony as wide players who want to cut in and shoot, a striker who drops deep to link the play, thus creating not only the space for a wide player to cut in, but also has the ability to find them makes so much sense. Furthermore, while I don't think its something that would be permanent, I could see Hojlund playing a few games at RW with Zirkzee through the middle. He'd then be able to use his pace to get in behind for Zirkzee to find, then cutting in onto his stronger left foot to finish. Like I said not something that should be a permanent move for him, but certainly something to try out on occasion if we are short of options on the right.

  • @dwarfogaming9323
    @dwarfogaming9323 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It’s gonna sound outrageous but everyone said De Jong was the reincarnation of Johan Cruyff but honestly watching Zirkzee in all phases of play for Bologna reminds me a lot of Johan Cruyff so technically gifted and intelligent with his movement and passing

  • @ayub460
    @ayub460 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I was wondering if you can make a video on De ligt as we are linked with and if he is compatible with Lisandro or not

  • @user-xl1wn2kj7c
    @user-xl1wn2kj7c 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I agree with you, he's a bit of Martial as already know how Eric can utilise him that's more better option as City uses Alvares

  • @Moonmaestro11
    @Moonmaestro11 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    6’4. Shoots with both feet, Great dribbler, Strong , links play well and is also quick

  • @sonofzeus5551
    @sonofzeus5551 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    One of the issues i have with hojlund is his body positioning in the box,he most usually receives the ball with his back to goal and that isnt even always with a defender challenging him,its instinctive now and then always trying to make a turn or lay off when he could've easy whipped a shot if he better positioned himself facing the goal

  • @tobtob7696
    @tobtob7696 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Yeah Zirkzee is the more natural playmaker of the two and their movements are different as you said. For me they both have an equal eye for the pass tho. Both every unselfish. Maybe a 4-3-1-2 might be something to think about. Bruno taking a step back as an 8 and Zirkzee playing behind Hojlund and Rashford

    • @myles5450
      @myles5450 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      why would we switch to a 442 when we still have capable wingers it seems like a waste of talent

    • @tobtob7696
      @tobtob7696 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @myles5450 im not saying it should be the default formation. It can be an option depending on tactics against the opposition. Secomdly, the only capable winger we have is Amad. Garnacho, and Rashford are selfish and inconsistent. They are seldom team players. Lets not even talk about Anthony

    • @jhonma5122
      @jhonma5122 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why accommodate Hojlund. Only one striker plays. If the viking lukaku doesn't perform, bench.

    • @sonofzeus5551
      @sonofzeus5551 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@myles5450 if you think we have capable wingers then you are as deluded as some other man united fans..we have pacy,wasteful,physically weak and less technical and intelligent wingers that's about it lol,if you think otherwise then you certainly don't know much then

    • @tobtob7696
      @tobtob7696 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @jhonma5122 Zirkzee wont perform either with Rashford and Garnacho on the wings. The wingers are the issue. Not the strikers

  • @remmyfrank6484
    @remmyfrank6484 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Zirkee style has to be supported with an excellent rest defence. His hold up play facilitates number 8 to run towards the box vacating their natural position thus lost possesstion would lead to a dangerous counter attack.

  • @sfrhm1874
    @sfrhm1874 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    A foil striker. Perfect for how Rashford performs optimally. Also at times, allows us to play a front two of Hojlund and Zirkzee- Zirkzee facilitating by creating vacated space for Hojlund to drive into. Everyone feasts.

    • @wolfswinkel8906
      @wolfswinkel8906 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would be crazy to see Manchester united return to Alex Ferguson's tested and trusted 4-4-2.

  • @keithdechief1
    @keithdechief1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think Zirkzee is a smart move. He will get Rashford goals, Garnacho goals, and Bruno goals and probably bag himself about a dozen. It's very exciting to think of him in the lineup for us. Please get it done Utd ☺️

  • @glennchia04
    @glennchia04 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good young player for a decent price. A risk worth taking and also fits the profile of player that INEOs is looking at!

  • @kingof206
    @kingof206 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It seems like ten hag wants to use him in that benzema at Real Madrid when Ronaldo was there type of roll. He’s a center forward but a deep lying one who caters his entire style of play for the team… similar to griezmann…

  • @kitsomochankana3493
    @kitsomochankana3493 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do agree that zirkzee is a good signing for united as he adds something different since he's not a traditional no.9.
    However, in my opinion, I do feel that united should look to sign ivan toney. He's an experienced epl striker and a proper no.9. True his attitude and price tag are a problem but I'm sure a solution can be made for those. I feel toney would be good for united for 3-4 seasons. The reason being we have hojlund and wheatley, who are 21 and 18, will be 24 and 21 and would've taken their game to a whole new level. Basically, by the time we sell toney, we'll have hojlund and wheatley, who'll be ready to play.

  • @tomatokosir
    @tomatokosir 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He would bring something different to our attack, but I hope he also develops his speed. I am affraid he is currently too slow for our way of playing. Italian league is quite different, speed is secondary, here he would currently be eaten by Van Dijk, Ake, Saliba etc.

  • @benpalmer79
    @benpalmer79 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was with you all the way up to 'prime Martial'

  • @trainerorange0632
    @trainerorange0632 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Worth a gamble for the low price but to challenge at the top of the league and in Europe, rasmus-zirkzee doesn't seem potent enough. Good young players but not exactly goal machines. I suppose more works in progress and another frustrating season in front of goal awaits us. It wouldn't be so bad if our wingers actually created instead of shooting on site everytime.

  • @paulb1951
    @paulb1951 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Plays in Bruno’s areas, no idea how they’d work

  • @ukn622
    @ukn622 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Do you think United should activate Nico Williams release clause?

  • @benchan1981
    @benchan1981 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will it clash with Bruno?

  • @-_-DatDude
    @-_-DatDude 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Maybe im too old school but i personally can't stand forwards who constantly drop deep. It puts too much pressure on the wingers to pick up the slack imo.
    The Rooney, Kane and Firmino drop back ting only works when you have world class or generational ballers like CR7, Salah, Mane and Son for example. We don't really have that. Garnacho and Rashford lack the composure and Amad will never be a high output winger.

  • @jaygee850
    @jaygee850 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video, good player. Shame he doesn't want to live in Manchester.

  • @United_Wings
    @United_Wings 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    👌🏼

  • @michaelstebelski7773
    @michaelstebelski7773 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you see him play alongside Rasmus in a 3-5-2?

  • @Rurles1
    @Rurles1 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We do this with every player...ey show these great attributes.... wch fizzes outwen they Join Man Utd... i dnt wats wrong with our club

  • @Mike1974P
    @Mike1974P 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hes not going to get that time in the premiership, I'd rather go for the young lad from benfica, João Neves. He's the closest player I have seen to Paul Scholes. In later days to come we should go all out to get that kid amazing talent

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Huh? Joao neves is a CM mate. What do you mean he won’t get time? Yeah he will, these situations are not what people mean by that

  • @nsm487
    @nsm487 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    as an ac milan fan..respect to you for appreciating our player lol

  • @willm7994
    @willm7994 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only issue
    Is that he will be in the
    Same position as Bruno likes to occupy

    • @takatorabata2979
      @takatorabata2979 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nope. IF he go down (n pull the defender) bruno will run to the box. Similiar to how tadic-vdb work at ajax.

    • @jean-paulwalters8855
      @jean-paulwalters8855 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No, we played with 2 free 8s, that's why he brought Mount, he'll play Mount and Bruno as free 8s with Zirkzee as a false 9

    • @willm7994
      @willm7994 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jean-paulwalters8855 and who plays 6 ?

    • @jean-paulwalters8855
      @jean-paulwalters8855 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@willm7994 well have to get 1, though Mainoo has to be in there as well, but Bruno ain't leaving the starting 11, he's our main player, and Mainoo has to be in the 11, in the no.8, pushing up with Bruno as a box to box, but having a UCL winner, we payed £55 million on, who's on 250k, I wonder how we're gonna get around that tbh

  • @user-jn8yi3su8b
    @user-jn8yi3su8b วันที่ผ่านมา

    Joshua Zirkzee Is new man utd Dimitar Berbatov

  • @hatemelmajouri6002
    @hatemelmajouri6002 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He is returning to Bayern in upcoming seasons dream on

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just made that up tho didn’t you

    • @hatemelmajouri6002
      @hatemelmajouri6002 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AtlantisFootball if Bayern wanted him they will bring him

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@hatemelmajouri6002 so he’s not going to Bayern because you just said if. And you don’t know that either. He might prefer the PL. It was said he preferred to stay in Italy than go Germany before

    • @hatemelmajouri6002
      @hatemelmajouri6002 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AtlantisFootball He isn't joining a team battling for 8th place and not in the champions league

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@hatemelmajouri6002 just making that up again. It’s been reported by multiple sources that United are leading the race against AC Milan.
      He’s joining Man Utd. Regardless of last seasons finish we are still a very attractive destination for players like Zirkzee. Literally signed Casemiro from Real and Ibra and Pogba without champions league.
      Don’t know why you’re just saying he won’t join when no one knows lmao

  • @ianrichards1839
    @ianrichards1839 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How come this guy can’t get into a Dutch team short on strikers ?

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because Ronald Koeman is the manager

  • @mahmudulenan513
    @mahmudulenan513 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    He is like griezman to me

    • @desngalaba1181
      @desngalaba1181 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      For me is like attacking midfielder than a striker

    • @mahmudulenan513
      @mahmudulenan513 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think if he comes he can be our olise alternative

    • @desngalaba1181
      @desngalaba1181 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      True he can play even Bruno part so at list Bruno could lest next season

  • @abelmakori
    @abelmakori 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately United will not be able to buy him, someone else who's serious enough will snap him before United even react.

  • @user-pl7qo9qz1x
    @user-pl7qo9qz1x 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    352 - zirkzee and hojlund front 2 with bruno behind

    • @-_-DatDude
      @-_-DatDude 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which will essentially be a 3-6-1. 😂😂😂

    • @jhonma5122
      @jhonma5122 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bench Hojlund. No more lukaku ball

    • @user-pl7qo9qz1x
      @user-pl7qo9qz1x 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@-_-DatDude 3-2-5 i think back 3, DM and mainoo stay back. wing backs, bruno and front 2 go forward

  • @jaymarctaeho9383
    @jaymarctaeho9383 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zirkee is good. But MANUTD need a creator like bruno. Left and right wing back close to none creating chances. Wing forward is also shitty from the like of anthony and rashford. Need to sell and buy replacements

  • @delmanpronto9374
    @delmanpronto9374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Why is he so good?" or "How JZ is different to RH"? is the video about the former or the latter, because it can't be both. he's not that good.

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes it can, you can answer both questions in a video mate. He is that good. His ability to link play is better than almost every other striker on the market

    • @delmanpronto9374
      @delmanpronto9374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AtlantisFootball a striker who can link play but can't score goals. if that's "so good", i suppose there'd be nothing called clickbait anymore.

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@delmanpronto9374 mate that’s not clickbait. You just don’t understand what you need from a striker beyond the surface level of goals. He does score goals but he plays a different role. You need to improve your tactical knowledge, because the role Zirkzee plays is not as focused on goals but creating for others. It’s not clickbait at all.

    • @delmanpronto9374
      @delmanpronto9374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@AtlantisFootball LOL yeah, it's true, i really don't understand how a forward that scores 13 goals in 53 games can be labelled "so good". i mean imagine if there was a player like cantona that did everything, us common folk (incl. the folks at bayern that sold JZ) with limited tactical knowledge would really have to dig through the dictionary to come up with superlatives to describe him since they've all been taken by expert youtubers like you that routinely hype up players and clickbait users for their personal gain.

  • @k.m9900
    @k.m9900 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This isnt a Eth signing its a wilcox signing

  • @tyungz1
    @tyungz1 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zirkzeee is a weghorst type of striker that can finish

  • @Thetalisman343
    @Thetalisman343 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro lost his audience because he is anti ten hag😂.
    All love Atlantis bro

    • @AtlantisFootball
      @AtlantisFootball  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Not really lol, most people realise that I was saying the same thing mid season and we didn’t turn it around. Only people who want to live in delusion stop watching people for wanting ten Hag out. We finished 8th and had negative goal difference not 2nd and just losing the title

  • @Fireshot_media
    @Fireshot_media 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please don’t sign this guy, rather go with Openda, he won’t survive premier league 😊

  • @remmyfrank6484
    @remmyfrank6484 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Zirkee style has to be supported with an excellent rest defence. His hold up play facilitates number 8 to run towards the box vacating their natural position thus lost possesstion would lead to a dangerous counter attack.